#questions-and-help
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
You already have
jade quartz
You’ve done that
twilit arch
maniac pixie dream realm is the unlock
wind nexus
it doesnt show up in my beast tribe relations?
twilit arch
The dailies are outside of lydha lran
wind nexus
will it have a quest symbol on the map?
last brook
oak ice
It should have a quest marker with circling arrows
wind nexus
what screenshot is my map rn
oak ice
If you have unlocked it
wind nexus
and i dont see any quests w/ that icon
last brook
Any idea how to get Ifrit's icon to change?
wind nexus
i dont think it can change o:
you can get egi glamours at lvl 50 but the icon stays the same
last brook
The garuda and titan ones changed for me. I guess this is bug or something?
steel wedge
Are any of the alliance raids currently important for The story of the latest expansion with the exception of Crystal Tower of course?
wind nexus
If I can fly in lakeland that means ive at least dont the pixie manic quest right
gloomy ice
Manic Pixie Dream Realm quest is in Crystarium near the Pendants
wind nexus
Do I need to progress farther in MSQ? Because I've done that quest already
But it lead to a dead end, where I don't have any more unlocks for the tribe quests
gloomy ice
Hmm, if you've completed that quest, then it should be available 🤔
wind nexus
this is wild
gloomy ice
Unless you've done the first three dailies already 🤔
wind nexus
Probably not?
I'm not one to pick up every quest I see
o wait
i figured it out
we innit
steel wedge
Are any of the alliance raids currently important for The story of the latest expansion with the exception of Crystal Tower of course? Shadow of Mhach Quests and Return to Ivalice are in anyway however small important to shadowbringers?
wind nexus
I don't think so
frank ridge
Return to Ivalice is important for the Relics quest
wind nexus
They're making CT raids an MSQ requirement for a reason, so I'm assuming the rest of them are just side story filler?
frank ridge
Yes I guess
rough lance
More like mini spoilers to the main series ff
gloomy ice
Shadows of Mhach is a neat side story but so far hasn't had very many ties to the main quests.
Return to Ivalice is required if you want to get ShB's relic weapons but how closely it ties into the main story remains to be seen.
steel wedge
Return to Ivalice is inspired by 12 and and Final Fantasy tactics... what is Shadow of Mhach inspired by?
gloomy ice
It's kind of its own story. It borrows a few things here and there but it's largely original.
steel wedge
Ok then cool I guess it’s safe for me to at least start 5.0 content
But I’m confused || if you’re going to the first which is another dimension basically/world how can you reason going back to your world to do other side content that you have not done yet lol? Is it really so easy to go back and forth?||
Possible spoilers for starting shadowbringers above
gloomy ice
That question is answered within the first two quests so you gucci.
steel wedge
Ah ok Where I’m at currently it just feels like it’s going to be a permanent thing until he complete the quest line
But OK I will do that
Ty
gloomy ice
@kind eagle In terms of marrying other players, you can only be bonded to one person at a time. If you were to annul the marriage, however, you can remarry. As long as it's one person at a time, you could theoretically get married infinitely. Marrying NPCs however isn't a thing.
marble drift
ya
surreal elm
Are there any exp boost items aside from the 3% of food
oak ice
Free company buffs and the armoury bonus
And various pieces of gear, some no longer obtainable
surreal elm
whats the armoury bonus? yea the FC one just depends on what buff they put
oak ice
!faq armouryexp
zinc orbitBOT
oak ice
Whichever job/class isn't your highest leveled gets a bonus
junior tundra
who is beq luggs seiyuu
oak ice
Japanese one is Nobuyuki Hiyama
sharp flicker
are the servers having problems?
hardy abyss
I am having no problems in Tonberry
this new Trust feature for SHB
is it efficient to use when solo grinding for a few levels 70+?
hollow horizon
Should I upgrade ironworks gear
hardy abyss
assume DF is still better but if I really cba
gloomy ice
If you're playing a DPS, it can be. Trusts can be a little slower than a regular run but there's zero queue time.
twilit arch
trusts are good if you're not interested in partying with other people or your dungeon queues are long
jade quartz
If you have long dps queues (like over 15–20 minutes) then trusts are faster to spam
twilit arch
its the same exp if you ran wit players, just going to be slightly longer (usually between 25-30~mins per run)
hardy abyss
true
gloomy ice
@hollow horizon Unaugmented Ironworks will hold until you reach the level 53 dungeon. Augmented Ironworks will keep until you hit the 55 dungeon.
jade quartz
Although with long queues you get to do other stuff while you wait...
twilit arch
and less gear drops but you'll get all the loot
hardy abyss
tyty
yeah as tank I don't think I'd concern myself if I was impatient anyways, queue times nearly instant for me with dungeons
wasn't sure if DF was like 50% faster or something
hollow horizon
@gloomy ice should I just save instead of upgrading ironworks accessories then
gloomy ice
If you're in that level range, then, yeah. Hold on to the poetics until you reach Idyllshire at level 58 story.
hardy abyss
this ishgardian restoration thing
I was told by someone in FC it's epic for crafters
hollow horizon
Damn I augmented every single armor piece
gloomy ice
It's alright. Poetics are really easy to come by
twilit arch
yes, restoration is pretty good for leveling crafting/gathering
hardy abyss
I was pretty big on farming with gathers in SB
using leves and beast tribes for crafters got old honestly
sounds good then, thanks I'll look in to it after msq
steel wedge
Remind me... have we seen Solus zos Galvus before post stormblood content
He seems Familiar but I don’t remember much
gloomy ice
His coffin. In person, though, no. We'd heard about him a lot.
twilit arch
that wasn't his coffin
gloomy ice
Ah. Looked coffin like. My b.
steel wedge
Ok so he’s not from 1.0 or anything like that?
steel wedge
Ok ty
surreal elm
does the armoury exp have a buff icon?
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
no
surreal elm
Ah ok, so I get the bonus already then since my main is lvl 80
twilit arch
whenever you get a chat message saying you've gained exp, it'll be calculated as part of the bonus. So like "You gain X (X%) class experience points" is what you'll see
surreal elm
cool cool, thanks!
gloomy ice
It applies only to combat classes/jobs though
surreal elm
Yup
grim adder
What's a materia that always sells fast?
junior yacht
The Crit one is usually a safe bet
clear delta
Where I am, Direct hit is more expensive right now.
Unrelated, anyone know where to find the ideal rotation for alchemy when trying to make grade 3 tinctures?
little swift
you can look in teamcraft to see if there are mastercraft rotations that work
wind nexus
are beast tribe allounces 12 for every tribe per day?
dense pier
Once I've unlocked Manipulation, is there any reason to continue the SB craft job quests?
jade quartz
12 per day overall
wind nexus
kk
jade quartz
So you can do three quests from each of four different tribes
wind nexus
so the each only have 3 quests a day>
im assuming they reset at the same time roulettes do?
jade quartz
They reset with the daily reset yes
Um generally there are three a day from each tribe. ARR is different, with each tribe having multiple quest NPCs at different reputation ranks who offer a total of like 9 quests (even more for the Ixal) but it’s only worth doing the top three from the highest-level guy for efficiency’s sake
Also, when you rank up your reputation by a level and complete the associated story quest, you get a bonus three quests available from that tribe for that day
void fossil
Does mouse over macro effect spell que?
dense pier
It doesn't have spell queue
dense pier
You either have to repeatedly spam the line over and over in the macro to fix it, or download something that mods the game client
jade quartz
There is no form of macro that doesn’t come with caveats
jade quartz
mo macros have uses
But don’t use them for like, every healing spell in your kit
I’ve seen crazy stuff like that
dense pier
@void fossil
I can't message you
light holly
can i get some help with this
hardy abyss
I just had to deal with that issue too. my fix was using a VPN
light holly
idk how to us a vpn
hardy abyss
other common fixes are playing with your DNS, another is ensuring you've removed older game files
fading zealot
Hi, might be a silly question, but is there a perception cap on Discerning eye for ephemerals?
hardy abyss
they're a simple click of a button, based on the ones I've used, and I've used 2
little swift
!faq vpn
zinc orbitBOT
hardy abyss
not that I'm advertising, but TunnelBear is what got me through the downloading process, and is free for 500mb. I had to turn it on, start the download and turn it back off after it got passed the point it was failing at
the links above however are more trusted with FF14 players
timid rover
So, sorry to interrupt, but are there any suggestions of where to first and how to handle quests and such?
hardy abyss
I personally use Nord now
gloomy ice
Many of the in game systems are behind the main story quests. These. 
Quests themselves are relatively straightforward and there are very very few that leave you without some form of guidance.
Main story quests are also the best source of EXP. If you're not sure what to do next, getting on with the next main quest is almost always the best option.
Side quests - these 
- are ok(?) for a little exp bump but largely unnecessary. Safe to ignore in other words.
pure sky
question.. is there a lfg channel on this server?
gloomy ice
Many of the side content unlocks and optional things are marked with this 
timid rover
Thanks for the advice, I'll ask any other stupid questions if I have them
pure sky
noice
stable hinge
do the dragoon armour spikes serve any function or are they just aesthetic?
boreal aurora
which healer job is good to learn be good healer?
little swift
!faq newplayertips
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
@timid rover
stable hinge
I'd assume it makes them harder for dragons to digest them
marble drift
@boreal aurora start with White Mage (base: conjurer)
boreal aurora
kk
marble drift
and if thats too boring, try Scholar (base arcanist)
gloomy ice
@stable hinge Aesthetic at least in terms of its irl reasoning. Made to resemble classic FF concept artworks.
mossy tartan
Does reshade conflict with any TOS in the game? I’m thinking of downloading it
gloomy ice
Although I'm certain there is a reason in universe for it? I recall there was a blurb about the armor in one of the lore books.
proud willow
Reshade technically violates the TOS, but they make no attempt to track people down and punish them for it
All you need to know is that you shouldn't discuss it in-game. it's safe to use it
mossy tartan
Okay, thank you
light holly
so what do i do about this idk how to us vpn's so other idea would help
gloomy ice
Mmm. I'm not familiar with the exact error codes but I have heard that the installer uses Internet Explorer. Sometimes updating IE works for whatever reason.
celest bison
I know that daily beast tribes reset at 10am earth time which is EST , right? Correct meif im wrong
gloomy ice
!daily
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
gloomy ice
I'm not sure what that would be in your timezone but that's when daily reset occurs
stray dawn
what to do?
light holly
Australian Western Standard Time WA (GMT+8)
proud willow
if you do your level 50 WHM quest, you'll get a set of significantly better armor
gloomy ice
@stray dawn Do your level 50 WHM quest to get an i90 set
proud willow
in a coffer
you can also wait until after you finish the 2.0 MSQ, at which point you should be able to start getting Ironworks equipment
gloomy ice
Also if you have some tomestones of poetics on hand, you can buy a significantly stronger level 50 weapon
boreal aurora
does friendship circlet apply to crafting
remote lintel
memoria misera EX is harder than savage
stray dawn
tomestone, where do I get those and wher to spend them?
stray dawn
i see, going to do my whm quest
gloomy ice
@boreal aurora Quick test says yes it does
gloomy ice
Levequests or Ishgard Restoration. Although straight grinding isn't as bad with fisher as it is with the other gatherers.
left moth
ocean fishing, then leves (market board dependent) then ishgard restroation
boreal aurora
alright cool
gloomy ice
Oh right yeah Ocean Fishing is pretty crazy
obsidian patio
Pretty decent if you aren’t spamming leves
leaden ginkgo
does the squadron manaul works with Fate?
i'm talking about the 15% exp boost in field monsters
oak ice
You can craft the ixal items on a higher leveled crafter and turn in on a lower leveled one
slate arrow
only on monster kills
leaden ginkgo
Yeah, but monster killed inside the Fate, will it count?
slate arrow
basically, it's not worth unless you're going into dungeons cause field EXP kills are virtually worthless
They're only like what, 300 xp each?
steel wedge
So tell me.... 4.5.6 only has 2 MSQ quests... did you really have to wait 3 months for that?
4.56
slate arrow
They were long
gloomy ice
Yeah. But yes they were pretty long. Lots of dialogue.
slate arrow
And that was right before 5.0 came out
boreal aurora
im at ixal right now i failed one and now it doesnt let me craft any anymore
u are not using the proper facilities it says
i dont get it
steel wedge
Ok so when a .56 patch comes out it’s like weeks from New expansion?
gloomy ice
@boreal aurora Talk to the NPC again to get the facility back.
steel wedge
@slate arrow
steel wedge
Ok I was just wondering ty
slate arrow
Did Heavensward have a .56 patch?
gloomy ice
It did yeah.
slate arrow
Or ARR?
boreal aurora
ah thx
slate arrow
ah. I see now
gloomy ice
That too although it was referred to as 2.55 part 2 back then.
slate arrow
Yeah .56 is usually set up for the next expac
gloomy ice
Still labeled as .56 in the patch notes though lol
stray dawn
hm, i finished the lv 50 whm quest, still not enough. I'm stuck 
left moth
should have got an i90 set. if accessories are keeping you down try to get ironworks ones (poetics)
simple shore
You didnt open the coffer
Its in your inventory
Open that, and it should have a full set of ilvl 90 left-side gear
warped nest
Your next order of business, imo, should be getting an ironwork WHM weapon with poetics tomestone
stray dawn
what location is the vender of tomestone?
warped nest
One handed wand + shield is no longer a thing from lvl 50 onward
gloomy ice
Mor Dhona. North of the aetheryte.
warped nest
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
left moth
ironworks vendor is in mor dohut 22.7, 6.7
weapon requires tokens (which is a different npc from the one that sells the weapon but it's all there). augmentation is done in north shroud because reasons
warped nest
Don't brake on your MSQ and grind poetics tomestone for the ironwork weapon, with the i90 from the coffer, you are covered for the time being. Just grab the i120 weapon once you got the resources required for it
left moth
don't worry too much. you'll replace things as you do msq
ironworks just makes it easier to avoid throwing things away
warped nest
Doing the msq roulette daily will give you 500-600. And please don't grind for it, you have enough item level for the time being as you have multiple i90 pieces from the coffer
stray dawn
roger
boreal aurora
can i get lvl60-70 gatherer gear with yellow scrips?
warped nest
Yes
boreal aurora
where tho
gloomy ice
60 stuff is in Idyllshire. 70 should be available from the 70 gear section if you have it unlocked. Rhalgr's if you don't.
warped nest
Scrip vendor in the starting cities should have them too
boreal aurora
i need rowena token blue gatherer scrip it says
gloomy ice
Yep. Those are in I think the level 58 items section.
boreal aurora
i dont see where the tokens are
gloomy ice
Hmmm. It's one of the items sections 😅
Try 60?
I forget off hand
But yes you need to buy blue tokens with your yellow scrips
They're relatively cheap.
gloomy ice
Unfortunately, the level 60 sets are class locked. It is decent enough for a start though.
lime geode
Are any of the blue+ quests at Revenant's Toll worth doing before finishing the whole MSQ? There are a ton of them. Happy to save them for later if it doesn't matter
whole wasp
If it has a recycle sign in it. It doesnt really matter.
lime geode
No - it's the normal Blue + symbol. Just so many of them it's somewhat overwhelming.
whole wasp
If its you can consider doing it.
lime geode
Yeah, that one.
whole wasp
Hmm. Do the labyrinth of the ancients one at least. I think it starts there.
Thats the 24 man alliance raid.
lime geode
Just feels crazy as it's usually one or two in a new place. It's like 10 when you get to Revenant's toll.
FYI Just got to Heavensward.
whole wasp
Yea. It was the endgame hub for 2.0
whole wasp
Anyway. You can come back later at 80 and blitz them. Do LoTA. The rest dont matter.
lime geode
Thanks
zinc orbitBOT
kind eagle
how do i do current level instead of proceeding
obsidian patio
You make another file to run it again
So for spamming floors 1-10 you’d delete the file and then start another run
Same for 51-60 once you unlock those floors
kind eagle
do 1 -50 again?
oak ice
Once you beat floor 50 you can start immediately from 51
warped nest
Once you clear 51-60 once, you can do a short quest and unlock the ability to start a new save from floor 51
warped nest
Ahh
Make a second save
Run it again to get more aetherpool
Aetherpool carries over
simple shore
That's in heavensward zones. Considering you arent even done with base ARR, you have aways to go before you get there
simple shore
You really shouldnt concern yourself with farming poetics at this stage of things.
They're far more useful to alt jobs than to mains. The MSQ for ARR will furnish you with sufficient gear to keep going through the rest of it, and you'll get a handful of poetics as you go through it which will be enough to upgrade the slots that you want
stray dawn
leaden ginkgo
there's no Idealized weapon right?
boreal aurora
where is the npc to unlock limsa lominsa leves
ashen agate
i has question
yesterday my 2nd job had +160% xp bonus, but today its back to +60% how come
boreal aurora
nvm
dense pier
Where do I get the slime event items?
marble drift
@ashen agate what level is your 2nd job?
dense pier
I got the slime hat
simple shore
There's a variety of possible explanations depending on what bonus you lost.
ashen agate
64 now, its GNB
marble drift
Did you run out of rested experiance?
simple shore
And what level is your other job?
ashen agate
my PLD is 63
simple shore
There's your answer
marble drift
thats why then
simple shore
Armory bonus is conferred to any job that is lower level than your highest level job
ashen agate
ah, so its better to get my pld to 80 first
simple shore
Thus your PLD will have the bonus currently - until it hits 64, at which point neither will have it. Once one of them advances higher, the other will have it again.
stable herald
For RDM, as I raise my mana levels, do I try to keep them similar or should i bring one up to 80 first then the other?
ashen agate
gotcha, just hit SB
simple shore
Its essential that you keep them balanced
stable herald
But isnt the proc based on it being imbalanced?
simple shore
If you get one too high above the other, you'll see the crystal on your gauge switch to White or Black. This indicates you will take a penalty on mana gains of the other color.
stable herald
I see
simple shore
iirc its like, 35 or 40 above the other that you run into trouble.
stable herald
So mantain them both. Gotcha.
marble drift
alot of red mage rotations just alternate between spells iirc
so its mostly even by default
stable herald
And the AoE, feels kinda meh, it's one color then both then do the spinning thing when it's up?
simple shore
AoE rotation for RDM is
Verthunder 2 OR Veraero 2 -> Scatter (scatter is later replaced by impact)
stable hinge
how does dragoon and ninja rank in damage output for DPS classes?
simple shore
If there are only 2 targets, do Jolt -> Scatter (later Jolt 2 -> Impact)
marble drift
dragoon slightly higher
simple shore
So just alternate which element you are starting with for 3+ targets
marble drift
by like...under 100dps iirc
seriously. don't get into that mentality
just play whats fun
simple shore
then dump mana with moulinet. Its usually best to stack your mana up for a big pull rather than use it as you have it
stable hinge
I play both im just curious
marble drift
bosses will die if you're good
stable hinge
my Nin is 74 and my DRK is 52
leaden ginkgo
The relic weapon partners the Artifact gear right? I really don't care bout the stats
I'm just really OC when it comes to Armor pairing
dense pier
Can you go into zones that you haven't gotten to yet via MSQ?
leaden ginkgo
*glam
dense pier
or is there something that prevents you
simple shore
@dense pier you're usually prevented from doing so.
marble drift
eh not really Franc
dense pier
oof
marble drift
not the relic but the artifact weapon you get
leaden ginkgo
I meant the Idealized one
marble drift
from freshly hitting 80
leaden ginkgo
I mean, aaa rip
marble drift
idealized is the same
stable hinge
even when it makes literally no sense for there to be a pile of rocks there
marble drift
just dyeable
boreal aurora
to use the crafting class in restoration of ishgard i need it to be atleast lvl20 right
stable herald
@simple shore why stack, rather than burn
simple shore
Well, generally in post-ARR dungeons, you're going to have tanks/healers doing big pulls, right? The idea being - try to have yourself high on the gauge for the bigger ones so you can dump a bunch of moulinets into them while everything is still up
If you just spend it as you have it, you'll oftentimes be hitting a pull thats half-dead already and with some of the targets already killed
simple shore
Nah
Moulinet is 20/20
so you can use it as you have it - or save it because you know a much larger pull is coming
stable herald
I wasnt sure since, on the usual first big wall to wall, Im defo not havin any mana
stray dawn
sell the lower levels?
stable herald
So I thought it was spend it as soon as i had it since by the time i had enough to spam, most of the pack should be dead
simple shore
So, before you do anything....
@stray dawn i notice that none of those things are flagged as being part of gear sets
stable herald
Sell em low level trash
simple shore
You need to start using that feature if you want to not lose your mind with gear management
stable hinge
why not deconstruct them
stable herald
Oops. Yeah desynth them
stray dawn
how do you do that?
stable herald
My mind said desynth, my fingers said nah
stable hinge
have you got lv50 with any crafters?
stable herald
Are you just starting out?
stable hinge
you wont be able to then
stable herald
What server are ya on?
stray dawn
Primal
stable hinge
desynth is how I got rose gold nugget for 7500 seals instead of paying like 50k gil on the market board.
leaden ginkgo
why isn't my gear getting spiritbond progress?
stable hinge
I think it takes a while to bind
leaden ginkgo
I
simple shore
You only gain spiritbond when fighting things (or crafting/gathering things) comparable to your gears level.
leaden ginkgo
oh, I see
stable herald
Ah. Cant help with levelling crafters then. Sry friend
leaden ginkgo
I should find higher level stuff to kill then
simple shore
So for example - on my level 80 jobs that are wearing full neo-ish gear, i'll get nothing or next to nothing out of anything but the highest of 80 dungeons/raids
simple shore
or, if i craft a level 50 item on my level 70-ish crafter, it will gain nothing out of it spiritbond wise
stable hinge
Didnt know that Balmerick
dense pier
All my crafters are +70 with scrip gear
What should I be spending my yellow scrips on right now?
cause im about to max out
marble drift
materia
dense pier
and I think I got all the HW masterbooks
I can't really even use the materia yet
since scrip gear can't be melded
twilit arch
sb/shb master books
marble drift
or you can use em to fuel an anima weapon for glam later
well you won't be using scrip gear later preferably
grim adder
Whats the best botanist gear I can get at level 66? o-o
twilit arch
kudzu set would be the best you could get at 66
marble drift
you can pick up a set with some yellow scrips if have some iirc
otherwise. marketboard/crafters/vendors
dense pier
Where do I even find the sb books
grim adder
Trying to get botany collectables is hard because I have no idea what I'm doing with appraisals
;-;
dense pier
they aren't in idy, i'll check rhal
marble drift
yeah they're in rhalgrs
lyric kraken
trying to get my ARR zeta weapon. how do i know if a dungeon / trial has bonus light?
twilit arch
by running it
lyric kraken
any way to check besides doing that?
twilit arch
no
marble drift
when the relics were current. there was a website for it
boreal aurora
is all ishgard crafting minimum lvl20
marble drift
but thats long since closed
twilit arch
yes, min lvl for ishgard crafting is lvl 20
at this point there's really no point in keeping track of light windows. the recommended way of doing light is generally running tam tara or ifrit normal
marble drift
ifrit normal is SUPER fast.
dense pier
Do any of the masterbook gather items from SB/HW show up in ShB?
zinc orbitBOT
lyric kraken
you mean ifrit (hard) or normal ifrit?
lyric kraken
boreal aurora
is ocean fishing party when it finds one it just starts no matter where i am?
vagrant copper
... IDK if it's because 1am but I can not read that. If you're asking if you can queue for ocean fishing and then go do other stuff until it starts, yes
boreal aurora
i queued
dense pier
and you get a penalty for not accepting
boreal aurora
ah i see
timid rover
Is there a max amount of apartments in a residential district, or can I just buy one if I can't find an open plot?
twilit arch
each division and subdivision apartment can have 90 tenants, so 180 total per ward
little swift
we have 23? wards?
twilit arch
its pretty likely that you'll find an open apartment building, just might need to look at lower wards
little swift
21 wards of 180 apartments
peak fjord
trying to do the bahamut line quests, is there anywhere i can go to ask for help?
little swift
set up a party finder
its not normal duty finder content
because it was quite difficult
most people tend to do it unsynced now and have a level80 blast through it
peak fjord
Gotcha. Thank you.
boreal aurora
does bait matter in ocean fishing
twilit arch
if you're aiming for spectral currents, or certain big fish, yes. but all of the bait that matters in ocean fishing is sold by the vendor on the boat
dense pier
Is it worth getting the gathering lore books from HW so that I have additional nodes to get yellow scrips from?
or do those become obsolete once in ShB or something
vivid wolf
Which class feels similar to bard, but more dps oriented?
Red mage is quite fun so far, but seems like a lot of ppl hate on it for some reason
nova beacon
does ff shadobringers add new locations or jjust main story?
weary umbra
lots of new areas
nova beacon
cool
marble drift
uhh Bard is the dps orientated Bard
weary umbra
machinist @vivid wolf
marble drift
all its party utility is just there. it comes attached to the songs you sing for your own dps
machinist doesn't play like bard 😐
marble drift
right and?
weary umbra
Which class feels similar to bard, but more dps oriented?
that would be machinist
obsidian patio
if you like procs there's dancer
marble drift
^
frozen karma
What tank class makes the most sense to play Stormblood with from a story/lore perspective? In Heavensward for example ||I played dark knight and I was helping and fighting the temple knights at the same time in the MSQ and job quest, and I thought that was kind of stupid.|| I have PLD75, DRK 65, WAR 65, GNB 60, getting towards the end of Stormblood but I want too stay with one class for a while now.
marble drift
Eh I'd personally say warrior or paladin.
but if this is your shtick you'll want dark knight to go into shadowbringers
which would...mostly work too
I'd just go Dark knight till the end tbh
little swift
War was for ARR Drg for HW Sam/Mnk for SB Drk for SHB in terms of jobs with relevance to expansion
weary umbra
sb lore tank id pick paladin
little swift
i use relevance loosely too
ocean pilot
Does warrior get any ogcd dmg in lagegame?
marble drift
!action Upheaval
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marble drift
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marble drift
thems your lot
frozen karma
I just noticed I mistyped, I meant to ask best lore tank for shadowbringer, that's the newest one right? I'm guessing dark knight just from the name of the expansion?
uneven galleon
Can I join an FC if it's on a different server?
frozen karma
no you can't it has to be on your home world
marble drift
yeah Dark knight for all of Shadowbringers
uneven galleon
There are no interesting FCs on my server in the recruitment channel, feels sad. My current one is inactive
marble drift
basically just look at the promotional material
and whatever is most prominent is the "lore job"
simple shore
The ShB logo is literally a dark knight.
frozen karma
guess i need to grind for the DRK anima weapon too then to become an ultra mega edgelord lol
weary umbra
uneven galleon
Is there anything in the game I can buy with poetics and sell it on the market?
I think there were some soil stuff back in SB but I dont remember
vagrant copper
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
vagrant copper
That lists most of them I think
weary umbra
glamor prisms
little swift
the soil stuff you're referring to is the grade 3 thanalan/shroud/la noscean topsoil
which is traded for from poetics
by trading in unidentifiable ore/bone/seed/shell
can't remember which gives what wheny ou trade those in
boreal aurora
how long is sprout status
boreal aurora
oh
fervent turret
"With 3 or more members of the same class" does it specifically mean gladiator or tanks in general? (shes a gladiator)
obsidian patio
@fervent turret gladiator.
tidal yarrow
why do you have to pay to travel?
obsidian patio
It's a pretty terrible condition since it cripplies your squadron composition
@tidal yarrow
Lore-reason: it's to pay a giant debt for getting the aetherytes rebuilt after the 7th calamity (aka 1.0)
Game reason: money sink
fervent turret
Ah yeah, that would really suck. Thanks for answering!
obsidian patio
I have most of my conditions be "wants specific race" and just have all of my squad be that race
fervent turret
That's genius
boreal aurora
just checked a price of a approved material
wonder why its so high on mb
if its so easy to get
ormaybe its not so common or something
obsidian patio
check the purchase history, someone may have recently bought out all the cheap ones
simple shore
Pretty much it comes down to, people want to power level their crafters but they dont want to timesink getting the materials themselves. Same reason any materials are worth as much as they are. Restoration simply provided a relatively unified set of mats for everyone rather than the plethora of items from before.
The materials are very easy to get - but its a time/boredom thing. Some people simply cannot tolerate grinding on gatherers.
and even if you can, its still a several hour slog of farming to get through each level range. if you have the money and dont need to level your gatherers at the same time, you might prefer to purchase the time rather than spend it yourself
gloomy mortar
When you submit materials into the FC processing station for@Company Project, is there a record of who delivered what?
simple shore
Its technically not possible to do that, but you can approximate the effect
This option is the one that you need selected. Then just pick a layout below that fits what you're looking for
zinc orbitBOT
boreal aurora
why all the fish i got from ocean fishing is 1gil in mb lmao
should i even keep bothering checking the price of all the fish
vagrant copper
They're pretty useless fish all things considered. And very common as everyone who ocean fishes gets all of them
tidal yarrow
thanks
molten anchor
Scarcity and usefulness is what drives prices in any system ever
boreal aurora
gotta be one of most useless items ingame then
gloomy mortar
FC chest is full of items marked “Grade 2 Skybuilder Approved” what does that mean?
simple shore
Those are ishgardian restoration crafting materials
molten anchor
that comes from the ishgard restoration, its a crafter gatherer event
simple shore
They're useful only for doing those crafts
boreal aurora
the thing with restoration of ishgard is u have to keep your gear up2date to do it
simple shore
Ehhhh not really
boreal aurora
while leves i can just buy from mb
simple shore
Like, you have to a little bit, but
I recently went through it myself. From 50-71 i was using just the 51 and 61 vendor gear/tools. Far cheaper than buying leve turnins
Do you need your gear to be better to be able to use the macros that do it for you? Sure. But if you manually craft you can easily hit the required collectability thresholds just by understanding how to craft.
boreal aurora
well i just did it with npc gear at my low lvl
gloomy mortar
Beginning crafting: All I do is 1) Muscle Memory, Inner Peace, Waste Not II, Innovation, Standard Touch (repeat), Trick of Trade when available to 100% quality, Masters Mend, Standard Synthesis to completion
boreal aurora
but hitting only the required 50 collectiblity or so
cant get the more for the double exp lol
but doesnt matter anyway
gloomy mortar
Am I missing out on any crafting moves?
simple shore
Well, the way you're doing it, you're wasting some of your Waste Not
TL;DR on Waste Not 2 - you want to use one (and only one) tricks or other ability after you put it up.
The reason for this is that your durability starts ending on a 0 - but by doing so, it will end on a 5. This essentially is an entire extra step gained.
boreal aurora
lol this guy just spammed lvlups from lvl30 to 54
can u even make gil with crafting if it became so easy nowadays
simple shore
So the first good you see, you can tricks. Or if you want to be less RNG dependent, you can put up Waste Not 2 first, and then Inner Quiet as you next ability so that you have guaranteed used one non-durability ability during it.
Any goods you get after that, are best used on Precise Touch, because they give 2 inner quiet stacks instead of 1.
Innovation can be saved for the end to boost your Byregot's
Basically you just want to get your stacks as high as possible, then Innovation/Great Strides a Byregots
gloomy mortar
I don’t understand how Byregots works.
simple shore
Byregots gives quality based on the number of Inner Quiet stacks, and it scales exponentially
A Byregots at 10/11 stacks with Innovation + Great Strides oftentimes will hit for as much as the entire quality bar.
gloomy mortar
How does Inner Quiet stack? What is a stack
simple shore
Inner Quiet stacks every time you use an ability that improves quality
Normally you only get 1 stack. Precise Touch (which can only be used when condition is Good) gives 2. etc.
boreal aurora
but can u still make good gil tho
simple shore
One sec, i'll screencap the buff
gloomy mortar
Innovation increases quality for the next 4 turns, so why would you save Innovation for the end?
simple shore
because Byregots doesnt scale linearly
wintry chasm
For byregot's blessing
simple shore
Its an exponential scale. I will show you in a sec
wintry chasm
Yeah inner quiet stacks also exponentially increases your control stat
simple shore
Okay, so im doing my Stormblood crafter quests to catch up, but here's the window. I'm at 9 stacks of inner Quiet. Look at the numbers on each ability.
and thats without applying Innovation/Great Strides yet
wintry chasm
So if you get a lot of stacks of that, like 10, then add that into innovation and then times the Byregot's blessing potency with 10 stacks that is 10000000 quality
Oh yeah great strides to double it all up
gloomy mortar
What is ‘Efficiency’?
simple shore
Efficiency is just a way of referring to the power of the ability. Its like potency on weaponskills.
wintry chasm
^
Taking into account buffs increasing it
So the efficiency of a skill with no buffs is 100%
But if there was a skill that increased it by 20% the efficiency of the same skill would be 120% efficiency
simple shore
So pretty much all crafting comes down to - get your progress to within one hit of finishing, get as high of stacks of inner quiet as possible, and then apply as many buffs as possible to a Byregots while on the second to last step
and then finish the progress on the final step
boreal aurora
looks like i need some lucky hasty touches to get over 79 collectibility
its always 60% right
simple shore
Yes
wintry chasm
(I miss steady hand)
gloomy mortar
So basically use standard touch to take you to ~60% quality, then use Byregots to bring it to 100%?
wintry chasm
Nah
Use standard touch to take you to as much inner quiet as possible don't think about the bar really
Byregot's blessing will probably do more than 40% of the bar anyway
simple shore
Yeah the bar isnt a factor at all. Byregots with sufficient stacks may well do (as you can see in the screenshot) more than the bar actually contains
boreal aurora
man why couldnt they put MB in ishgard restoration place
simple shore
if you dont have Manipulation yet, that means using Waste Not 2, using 1 non-durability ability during it, and then using Standard/Precise as applicable to maximize your stacks. Replace Standard with Hasty if your CP is not good.
boreal aurora
yikes this material that i need for one of crafters costs 2.5k ea
cant afford that
simple shore
Make sure that you will have 74 CP at least at the end for the Innovation/Great Strides/Byregot
wintry chasm
@boreal aurora level gathering
wintry chasm
...do you want anything from it?
simple shore
idk, do you want things from them?
simple shore
.....
wintry chasm
No
simple shore
lol
thorny spruce
ok
wintry chasm
Don't do it
grim adder
What are end game foods that people pay for?
simple shore
Anyway, once you pick up Manipulation from the Stormblood questlines, you can stop using Waste Not 2, and instead use Manipulation + Prudent Touch (replace all other touches with this)
lyric kraken
what option do i pick to upgrade my novus relic weapon to the next step?
gloomy mortar
How does manipulation work? Currently, my crafters are all~70-80, from GC turn ins, haven’t done the crafter job quests, and most of what I’m crafting is ~10 levels below skill
simple shore
Manipulation restores 5 durability after each step. Prudent costs only 5 durability per usage. The application of that should be obvious.
While those are up you effectively are locking in your durability at its current number
gloomy mortar
Ovim Meatballs
simple shore
You'll need to get to 65 in the Crafter questlines to unlock it though
nova beacon
whats shadobringer collectiors edition?
simple shore
So until you do, Waste Not 2 with Standard/Hasty/Precise is the correct option
gloomy mortar
Ok thanks 🍺
simple shore
Also, consider opening your craft with Reflect instead of Muscle Memory. More often than not, 3 inner quiet stacks are more valuable than the progress
24 CP for 3 stacks vs. 18 CP for 1 stack
At least for what you're doing
wintry chasm
@nova beacon Shadowbringers but comes with some extra in-game stuff like Squall's gunblade and Fran minion and a mount
nova beacon
k
gloomy mortar
How much does the High Quality feature from the Class Quest give you? I finished the job quest with only my Leatherworker and haven’t noticed a difference
simple shore
tbh i dont know. its minor.
wintry chasm
Pretty sure it's not a feature tbh
Besides
They start demanding HQ only after a bit anyway
simple shore
He meant Quality Assurance, i think.
the passive trait that increases Good liklihood
gloomy mortar
Yeah QA
grim adder
Is there a specific rotation of skills for getting botany collectibles because I still have no idea what im doing ?
wintry chasm
I wouldn't call it crazy but I certainly can feel the increase in likelihood
simple shore
I'd say....its like, its not going to cause you go have goods coming out of your eyeballs or anything, but you're far less likely to have one of those cursed crafts where you get to step 17 and havent seen the condition change once yet.
Either way you're going to get it regardless and you dont have to do anything to have it active
wintry chasm
@grim adder for level 80 I found this from 5.0. It'd be outdated with the new gear since then but the rotation shouldn't be vastly different tbh
This is for like, 800GP
gloomy mortar
How important is control? For example, the price difference between Control Materia 5 & 6 is $2000 vs $10000. Similarly, Level 74 tools and Level 77 tools.
lyric kraken
its the same for 5.3.
simple shore
Materia shouldnt be something you need to be investing in before hitting 80. That said, control is very important
wintry chasm
Control is probably second most important stat tbh
Wouldn't sweat about materia till endgame
If you have some bits and bobs in terms of materia go meld them in your leveling gear but that's it
simple shore
Control is effectively the force-multiplier for all of your quality actions.
kind eagle
How do i get my recruitment code
boreal aurora
tips for getting high collectibility at low lvl in ishgard?
weary umbra
~~but if you need one from someone else ill take some gold chocobo feathers 👀 ~~
gloomy mortar
About How much money would you put aside to decorate an apartment?
weary umbra
1-2m
gloomy mortar
Furnishings are that expensive? 😮
simple shore
You're levelling crafters - why not just furnish it yourself?
The vast majority of housing items are crafted
weary umbra
it gets pricey quick but a basic couple of furnishings shouldnt break the bank
gloomy mortar
You can craft a hot tub?
simple shore
This site is highly useful for the purpose of planning any furnishings you may want
kind eagle
I dont see recruit a friend
simple shore
and yes, as far as i am aware all of the "baths" are crafted items
zinc orbitBOT
vagrant copper
FWIW, you won't see the RAF banner if you're on trial or don't have an active subscription
simple shore
Very few housing items are not crafted, and those that arent tend to not be purchasable from the MB anyway.
gloomy mortar
Can you sleep in your Apartment bed like you can at the inn?
weary umbra
yeah
but you wont get a waking up animation when you log in
you zone in outside the apartment building
weary umbra
you need a retainer to put stuff on the market board
weary umbra
oh just any shop npc, click buyback and itll pull up your inventory for you to chuck junk at them
kind eagle
Oh ty
lime geode
Is any of the stuff you get along the way worth keeping?
gloomy mortar
Right click wind up airship to add it to your minions
weary umbra
yeah
gloomy mortar
Sell yellow bag of Gil
weary umbra
youre sittin on a bunch of gil!
gloomy mortar
Go on MRket board, see what they’re selling for. If less than 100, sell
boreal aurora
/ac [Basic Synthesis] why its not working
gloomy mortar
/action not /ac
boreal aurora
oh
simple shore
That's incorrect
Its not working because of the brackets
/ac "Basic Synthesis"
that's what you need
boreal aurora
“[basic” is not a valid action name.
lime geode
Good idea Admiral - ill do that
gloomy mortar
I used /action for my macros and it worked
simple shore
Yes, but /ac also works
boreal aurora
ah i see thx
simple shore
ac vs. action was not the reason it was not working
gloomy mortar
I did:
simple shore
/ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
acoustic island
can only one retainer do max lvl wood venture
simple shore
That's how you do it if you want it to be part of macro that does multiple crafting actions
Every line needs to end with <wait.3>
Except for buffs, which can end with <wait.2>
gloomy mortar
Can you do <wait.2>?
boreal aurora
oh
gloomy mortar
What’s a buff
simple shore
i.e. Inner Quiet can be a <wait.2>
but Touches or Synths should be a <wait.3>
That said, a <wait.3> is always safe.
Further advice on crafting macros - dont use them if you have a laggy connection.
gloomy mortar
Do you have to press the macro button each time? Or can you set up multiple?
simple shore
If you build the macro correctly, you press it once per craft
simple shore
But you cannot have a macro that loops into the next one, nor one that initiates a craft on its own
boreal aurora
lmao
so i tested the macro
but on ishgard
rip
forgot about collectibility
cheap material so its fine
gloomy mortar
lol
lime geode
Is the quickest way to check if stuff is less than 100 gil to give it to my retainer and try to sell it?
Rinse & repeat?
lime geode
Sry admirals idea 🙂
gloomy mortar
Yeah,
lime geode
I'm picking up a convo from 10m ago lol
gloomy mortar
Yeah, I do that too
lime geode
k, thx
gloomy mortar
Sell items from inventory, then check prices, check history.
lime geode
yeah price check, if it's valuable, sell it, otherwise set it aside for the vendor
frozen estuary
Hello, i wanted to ask which edition i need to buy to get the full version of the game 🙂
gloomy mortar
If getting to be a chore doing this, from your picture, I’d keep all the potions for using yourself, keep the glamour prisms, envelope, coffer and Phoenix down. Some of the potions may be worth money and you can sell them through your retainers 💃
calm bison
anyone wanna help with palace of dead? wanna grind as high as possible no matching fixed
lime geode
@gloomy mortar Thanks - I have 3 other pages to go through as well 😄
it's not too bad
gloomy mortar
If you join a Free Company, they usually have a npc who can sell you animal hides and voidsent blood, etc. So basically sell anything that you can rebuy for cheap 🧉
lime geode
Where do I find said NPC?
frozen estuary
can someone answer me? i know its monthly pay to play, but which edition do i have to buy first without the dlc?
shrewd owl
starter edition i believe is just the base game
gloomy mortar
If you join a free company, they should have that npc inside the FC house
lime geode
Yes, and complete is everything Akine
frozen estuary
starter edition i believe is just the base game
@shrewd owl does it include the first month of playing or do i have to pay for 30 days additionally?
shrewd owl
it comes with 30 free days of playtime
frozen estuary
okay, cool. thank you!
gloomy mortar
Also, in the description, if it says “Selling price $x”, that means it’s sold by vendors in the markets, so easy to rebuy. For example, I saved Rubber for the longest time until I realize you can buy it at any market for $18 lol
lime geode
So random. Garlean steel join - 1k gil. Garlean steel plate - 30 gil. Guessing its for crafting.
proud willow
low value crafting mats will occasionally spike in price if someone needs like 100 of them and buys them all regardless of price
they usually drop in price again pretty fast
gloomy mortar
Yeah, another way is to google the high priced item “(item) ff14 wiki a realm reborn”. And see what craft it is used for. If the craft is way out of your crafting range, sell it. If close, keep.
near garnet
hi I'm a new player, to make the most out of my road to 70 buff should I be swapping between another class while doing msq to avoid overleveling?
boreal aurora
i take back that leves are better
ishgard is crazy fast
especially i can get enought collectibility now for double the routine
or sometimes max
shrewd owl
yup the unlock quest is in uldah
zinc orbitBOT
tidal yarrow
I sold things on mb, It said I got like 15k but my gil didn't increase
grave belfry
azure kettle
Floor 51-60 doesn't seem as good for XP as I've heard, is there a better method
Double the space
median locust
51-60 is better than sitting in queue for 20min just for one dungeon
if you can get 5min or less queues (healer or tank friend) then that's gonna be better exp
If you're a healer or a tank just run the highest level dungeon you have available
kind eagle
how to get Scion Adventurer's Jacket
median locust
2 retainers means you can get items from 2 retainer jobs when doing ventures. Also that, you get double ventures, double the selling space, double the storage, etc
Scion Adventurer's Jacket is from MSQ
ocean pilot
how valuable is tenacity melding on tanks? heard its the same stat as determination, just with added damage reduction to it
median locust
It's worse than det and doesn't really do much
kind eagle
what level msq
ocean pilot
so the extra tankiness is not worth the trade-off of lower dmg?
median locust
I remember reading that focusing on Tenacity would give you a passive 5% mitigation
Which is useless unless the 5% would actually save your healer heals
which it won't
5% won't make the difference between life and death ever
@kind eagle Post Heavensward MSQ, so 60
signal prism
There is pickpocket in the game? I just got pickpocketed
kind eagle
lol
signal prism
In the chatbox there is this "XX pickpockets 500,000 gil from <me> and runs away
so its just some emote thing?
median locust
Someone made an emote command with that text on it
signal prism
Ah okay
median locust
you can do it too with /emote or /em
vivid wolf
So i'm kinda losing track of what to do with all the blue quests popping up after finishing the 2.0 story
any tips?
seems like most of those blue quests span over multiple quests too
median locust
as in what to prioritise?
vivid wolf
yeah
molten anchor
by blue quests you mean the ones with the + on them right?
median locust
If you've got Legacy of Allag I'd do that
vivid wolf
did a few of them, seems to mostly be 'finish x on hard mode'
median locust
It unlocks the first 24-man raids which are basically just 24 player dungeons
And the story for them is very important for the Shadowbringers story later
In fact it's going to be mandatory for MSQ progress with the next patch lol
molten anchor
most of those are old dungeons and the such, i wouldn't worry too hard about doing all of them right away. there are a few good ones like legacy of allag as mentioned though
vivid wolf
alright, i also got a quest that requires me to do the ultimate weapon fight all over again, but the queue time is 30min+
do i just skip that?
median locust
I'd also do the Hard mode primal fights that starts with Ifrit (Hard), these are mandatory for MSQ very soon
Ok so, Minstrel's Ballad and Extreme difficulty fights are basically old endgame fights
You don't queue for those
molten anchor
its hard to duty finder the ex trials of old content
forest laurel
median locust
They're not in any roulettes so they'll be very hard to get a group for
The mechanics also tend to be way harder than your usual trial
Wiping a lot is expected
vivid wolf
is minstrel's ballad a solo duty?
molten anchor
if you really want to experience it as it was inteneded you'd have to use party finder, but its hard getting a group together for that sort of thing since there is no strict advantage to doing that over just unsyncing it
except for fun of course, but no one plays this game for that
./s
median locust
If you wanna check it off for completion, I'd put up a party finder for it asking to unsync it, and mentionning you have bonus
But for now it's really not important
Lowest priority on your list imo
If you unlock anything else that says Minstrel's Ballad or Extreme, skip it
molten anchor
the binding coil is like that too, but that has some good story implications so its a little higher priority than the others
median locust
Binding Coils of Bahamut are also old raids and you shouldn't queue for them, but I'd recommend running those unsynced with a group eventually, the story is good
Definitely start with the Legacy of Allag quest and the Crystal Tower raids though
vivid wolf
alright, those shouldn't be too bad
wintry chasm
Yeah you should always do the raids for an expansion before moving onto the next tbh. Coils is going to be the hardest one to get a party for but if you just say unsynced and first time bonus it should be fine
vivid wolf
gonna try to progress msq at the same time too
need to get to ishgard for that bard job quest
wintry chasm
Not like you need that job quest
median locust
Take your time on the post-2.0 quests, there's a ton of them
And yeah you don't need your 52 skill until you unlock lv52 content
molten anchor
it probably comes with a skill though
median locust
Which is gonna be heavensward lol
wintry chasm
A skill they can't use in any content until Heavensward Pig
molten anchor
open world is a thing, especially for the msq, but yeah its not really that big of a deal. i get why they would want it though
vivid wolf
52 unlocks wanderer's minuet i think
wintry chasm
Yeah but even in the open world they'll be obliterating mobs instantly
vivid wolf
so now i have that arrow, but nothing to charge it with
median locust
Yeah it doesn't matter
You'll be running lv50 content until you clear the 100 quests between 2.0 and Heavensward
and won't be able to use it anyway
Other than for open world content but meh
agile laurel
brd leveling is kinda depressing like that
jolly sorrel
Since there's a delay on fairy abilities, do I need to wait between clicking Illumination and WD? Does it even affect eachother?
agile laurel
i believe it should
as a general rule of thumb for smn/sch I try not to put 2 in the same gcd
smn opener is the way it is mostly to account for the pet being dumb as hell
jolly sorrel
Okay, so just Illumination, throw any instant, and then WD
agile laurel
works for me. it's probably not optimal but i don't play sch to a high degree so it just works
azure kettle
Does rdm keep up with other dps or at least have the utility to do so?
kind eagle
Where the best place to earn gil
median locust
All jobs are viable and do adequate DPS
slate arrow
!faq meta
median locust
RDM has the lowest damage of all 3 casters but it's not low enough to make it not wanted
zinc orbitBOT
median locust
^ Good Red Mage will beat a bad Summoner or Black Mage
skill >>>>>>>> the job you play
simple shore
RDM is also, for lack of a better way of saying it, "easier" to master than those other two.
slate arrow
If people start trying to diss you for playing RDM in party finder you can toss the support desk at them for harassment or something
agile laurel
Why exactly are there multiple datacenters per region?
Like, why not just put all the worlds in one each?
jolly sorrel
@kind eagle If you're just starting out, just be sure to do your daily roulettes. They give a big amount
agile laurel
only occurred to me cause WoW can do it
so like. was there any reason beside haha spaghetti
slate arrow
FFXIV has a lot more data compared to WoW per character
you can't just merge the databases and expect everything to be fine
wintry chasm
Maybe the tech housing the data centers are just too small as well
For all worlds on one
hazy flint
which beast tribe gives crafter exp from 70+
agile laurel
just seemed a little backward was all. oh well
slate arrow
They're doing their best, but the server team can only do so much. They are looking into setting up cross datacenter stuff eventually, but it's probably gonna be a late 5.x or 6.x patch at this rate
@hazy flint dwarves in 5.3
agile laurel
oh, that is interesting
slate arrow
Not even 5.x tbh due to COVID
agile laurel
yeah understandable
slate arrow
probably a next expansion thing
agile laurel
Guildhest roulette mad sucks
simple shore
You really shouldnt be doing that
agile laurel
it's generally ignorable
slate arrow
@kind eagle that's just the minimum level
kind eagle
then what is the money roulette
kind eagle
casino?
slate arrow
The daily reward still scales to your level
jolly sorrel
The gil reward doesnt.
agile laurel
Roulette is a slightly unfortunate term - don't consider it in the casino context of the word
kind eagle
simple shore
As far as I am aware, you're a fairly low level / not progressed far in the MSQ. Making money shouldnt really be a concern for you at this stage
kind eagle
i progress
jolly sorrel
That said, if you do all roulettes daily, you get about 1M per month. If that's a lot of money to you, do it.
kind eagle
quite far already
agile laurel
when it says duty roulette it just means random duty
jolly sorrel
It adds up
slate arrow
Have you beated Castrum Merridtiam and The Praetorium yet?
kind eagle
i need 2m gil
simple shore
Basically there's almost nothing you need to be spending gil on until you finish the entire MSQ.
kind eagle
idk whats that
jolly sorrel
Doing the entire MSQ will net you... about 6M in quest rewards, I think? Not sure, dont have the numbers ready
simple shore
Yeah if you dont know what those are you're not even out of the base-ARR content yet. idk what you need 2mil gil for, but you probably dont need to be spending it yet.
jolly sorrel
The ARR MSQ should get you about 2~3M in quest rewards already
slate arrow
then we can't help you, unfortunately.
agile laurel
well msq is kinda what you'll have to do
kind eagle
i think i completed arr