per server
#questions-and-help
dense pier
twilit arch
!faq subprice
zinc orbitBOT
indigo orbit
I always forget the entry sub is a thing
little swift
entry price only allows for 1 character per world up to 8
leaden ginkgo
Wtf
simple shore
Either way, there's still almost no real reason to have alts, despite what was said above.
indigo orbit
I’m on legacy sub pricing so I’ve never paid it
dense pier
You're wtf-ing at that and not the fact that you have to sub to get more retainers?
😂
leaden ginkgo
I have standard sub, never knew the entry was a thing
little swift
standard is what the base game gives you
indigo orbit
or game time cards
little swift
^
leaden ginkgo
I just puechase game time when it runs out
Last time I bought 180 days
Which seems to have the same price as entry
indigo orbit
Yeah the bigger chunks save money in the long run
leaden ginkgo
So if next time I want to add one month only, it would be better if I just buy Entry, right?
But I guess they don't stack with each other
indigo orbit
If you don’t have more than one character on a server
leaden ginkgo
But I think they would ask me to wait until my Standard sub runs out
indigo orbit
I think what happens if you drop to entry is whichever character is at the top of the server list is the one you can use
leaden ginkgo
Ok so if I sub in chunks, might as well put some characters on the same FC, hire some retainers and trade away
dense pier
Don't forget the ventures part
leaden ginkgo
Crazy effort though, considering my main character just hit Lv.44
There's no reasons to do that at this point
indigo orbit
I think you could just use the company chest if you were using an FC
leaden ginkgo
How long do you think it would take to get my char to Lv.70? (Including the story)
indigo orbit
Although I’m not sure of the logistics of inviting your own characters to your FC
leaden ginkgo
I feel like I'm missing out on the latest content
little swift
you do have to consider that oyu'd have to level the characters to the same point
lv17 for retainers
leaden ginkgo
I don't wanna get there just to find a lot of players stopped playing and find it harder to get a group
jagged crow
Is it possible to get a summoning bell or something in my apartment?
little swift
yes @jagged crow
jagged crow
What's it called
little swift
summoning bells are craftable
little swift
you can buy them from the marketboard too
simple shore
Just about anything craftable is buyable
trail prairie
did i miss any opening sequence to the first ||eden|| raid or does the whole raid really just start with a sudden fight?
indigo orbit
You mean like no trash pulls?
trail prairie
i guess, or at least, i dunno, something that explains how you got from the outside to the inside, and what room you find yourself in
indigo orbit
That’s how most XIV raid wings are
trail prairie
i don't remember alexander or omega being this... random
dry ocean
Do I only get raid 1 book every week?
gloomy ice
For E5-8S, yeah, one book per floor per week.
zinc orbitBOT
hidden turret
is there a pros and cons list anywhere for the 4 tanks? I love tanking, and have tanked the last 2 expansions, but coming back a few up dates later, this is a lot different and not sure which one I want to play and focus on
dry ocean
No raid gear til next tier I guess
Are they going to release new tier on 5.3?
Last tier
indigo orbit
5.3 is the next wing of NieR
twilit arch
the last tier of combat gear is 5.4
5.3 is catch up, so the nier gear will be same ilvl as unaugmented crystarium ilv490
lilac belfry
I'm not an expert nor a tank, but here's what I know.
- Gunbreaker likes the damage, much damage. Possibly lowest self mitigation
- Paladin has a lot of utility for the party and has a heal for itself. I haven't heard anything bad about paladins in a long time.
- Warrior seems like it has a lot of damage too, and decent self mit and self heals. I have no idea how their group utility is though
- Dark Knight seems really solid and their self mit is pretty strong, possibly strongest? Their damage seems okay too, but definitely not gunbreaker tier.
lilac belfry
I'm looking to level 1 class of each role so I can play any role. I currently have 2 level 80 healers and level 80 summoner, any recommendations on the other 3 roles?
I have gunbreaker/dark knight sitting 70+, my highest melee is 55 ninja, but samurai isn't far behind at 52. And my highest ranged physical is dancer at 60 (if that even counts).
gloomy ice
The weapon is, yes.
twilit arch
eden savage gear is 500 for the armour and 505 for the weapon
gloomy ice
The rest is 500, yeah.
simple shore
That said, there's a reason why WAR is the lowest played currently.
lilac belfry
as a healer who has spammed dungeons the last two weeks or so, I'd definitely say dark knight feels like it was the easiest to heal if that's your goal. But I've also seen bad dark knights. I don't feel like I had an easy time healing gunbreakers at all, same with warriors. I encountered very few paladins (I could probably count on one hand how many I saw this weekend)
simple shore
From FFLogs :
dry ocean
War is best for pulling huge packs
simple shore
That number in the last column? Its a good judge of whats currently popular
lilac belfry
maybe all the paladins are 80 lul
simple shore
Huh?
little swift
drk has tbn
simple shore
DRK has fine mitigation. It just has extra mitigation for magic also.
little swift
and shadow wall
lilac belfry
I'm looking to level 1 class of each role so I can play any role. I currently have 2 level 80 healers and level 80 summoner, any recommendations on the other 3 roles?
I have gunbreaker/dark knight sitting 70+, my highest melee is 55 ninja, but samurai isn't far behind at 52. And my highest ranged physical is dancer at 60 (if that even counts).
D:
indigo orbit
DRK has plenty
dry ocean
Ahh yeah
simple shore
TBN is probably the most powerful mitigation ability in the game
simple shore
Its silly
hidden turret
I was a Drk Main in Heavensward, then Stormblood I was a Paladin main. I've always wanted to play War as well but never seriosuly got into it
dry ocean
Haven’t played Drk so I only know what I know
lilac belfry
I really enjoyed dark knight til level 70 in stormblood, I really didn't like dark arts
lilac belfry
oh I know
simple shore
if that was your reasoning, then time to give it another look
dry ocean
They did say drk has the best magic mitigation
simple shore
Yeah. It has the best magic mitigation. The best "general" mitigation too, if you ask me. It just has the worst invuln.
lilac belfry
I always wanted to level a paladin, but can never bring myself to do it. I like sword & board
hidden turret
yea, I've been on the fence between going back to Drk, keeping with Paladin, or picking up War
dry ocean
What are drk raid buffs?
lilac belfry
think its same as gunbreaker
simple shore
10% magic mitigation to the group
dry ocean
And pldn wings?
simple shore
PLD wings is 15% and all damage
elfin wagon
is there a way 2 check my dps if im on ps4
hidden turret
whats the War raid version, shake it off?
simple shore
Ask someone who isnt on PS4 to check for you? That's about it afaik
tropic summit
There a good page to see all sidequests that have special rewards like emotes and mounts?
I can't believe I've been missing Lali-ho all this time just cause it wasn't a blue quest
tacit karma
I’m on pc and is new, I have some questions
I have one group of friends in one data center and another on a different one is it possible to play with every one for free?
stray dawn
datacenter = regional
tacit karma
Ok, can I have two different character in two different data centers?
simple shore
Yes, but that would be....an enormous amount of work
You'll likely burn yourself out completely if you do that.
tacit karma
Well I have some ppl who bought me the game but I don’t play with that much, and other ppl I play with all day and want to play. So I just wanted to know if it was possible to play with both at certain times, thank you
unique oasis
im not really sure how good blue mage is. with like great ilvl gear for 60 (say, do some unsynced alex savage to collect up books and use it on caster gear for BLU, or whatnot), so that you got like pretty great stuff for the fight, are the alex savage raids harder or easier with a team of BLUs, once they start knowing how to play it correctly on BLU?
I'm not sure if its like BLU has sick stuff that makes it easier or if they're missing stuff so it gets harder or how that works out
and i mean harder or easier than like, synced normal classes
simple shore
I'd assume easier synced than with non-BLU synced? BLU are pretty OP.
unique oasis
that's pretty cool
i sorta missed out on coils and most of alex savage cause i started during HW
so maybe finding a blu static to take on the blu title challenges
would be a cool way to get a chance to do those synced, but in kinda an unusual way too
i only ever cleared A9S
er... maybe A10S?
or maybe i only progged A10S but didnt clear
not sure, but definitely A9S
its been a long time
tacit karma
Sorry another question, if I already have a character on a data center then make a new one on the other, will my original character be deleted or replaced?
marble drift
no
tacit karma
Ok thank you
dire quest
can someone help me
final meteor
hello guys i have question , server omega he had double exp now is double xp change to another server or what? and if change what time is it ( sry for bad eng )
obsidian patio
Preferred servers only change with patch updates
dire quest
im trying to reinstall the game on my new pc but every time i try i get an "unable to download patch files" error and its driving me crazy
obsidian patio
So omega should still be preferred
final meteor
the next patch when
obsidian patio
@dire quest see if you need to update internet explorer, as the launcher uses that to download the patches
August 11th
final meteor
tysm
dire quest
but i dont have internet explorer
zinc orbitBOT
dire quest
ok what exactly do i have to do
obsidian patio
You can follow the steps in this forum post to update IE https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/357457
Just scroll down a bit to the 2nd GM post
grim adder
What do you do with ocean fishing fish?
obsidian patio
Either desynth for a chance to get bait back or sell them to a npc vendor
dire quest
link wont open for some reason
grim adder
oo ok
dire quest
wait nvm
leaden ginkgo
Hey everyone o/ I have a question about my game service account. I tried logging in earlier today but couldn't as I got an error message that said my account wasn't registered.
So I looked on the mog station to find that my account has been suspended. Before anyone asks, no I have not participated in RMT or anything that would get me suspended.
After looking at recent login info on SE's website though, I found 2 log ins from a different IP address in a different country.
Is it possible that my account was hacked and suspended? I contacted SE support about 12 hours ago but have yet to hear anything and I still can't log in. I'm not sure what else to do at this point.
jade quartz
Yes. Nothing you can do but wait for support reply, really.
They're slow to respond atm due to covid
leaden ginkgo
Ah ok, yeah I kinda figured :( any idea what the turn around time roughly is for this to be fixed or does it just vary?
leaden ginkgo
Alrighty. Thanks for the info! :)
nova beacon
whats the diffrence between dying gear and using glamour
shrewd owl
any piece of gear yyou get can be used for glamour
theres also some items that are purely for glamour
nova beacon
i got 12 prism from quest
simple shore
Hmm
jade quartz
!faq datacenterip
zinc orbitBOT
dire quest
yeah i tried doing what what in that thread but it didn't work
frozen karma
is there a way to automatically equip a soulstone? Went into lvl50 dungeons a few times as a marauder instead of warrior
remote lintel
gearsets
junior tundra
do people still do the old alliance raids that arent crystal tower
need to do the ivalice raids for the resistance weapon and have a more than 30 minute queue
remote lintel
yes
simple shore
Try queueing as other roles?
jade quartz
@frozen karma you should change jobs by gearsets
always
not by manually equipping weapon
Set each job to its own gear set, update gearset with the 🔄 button whenever you change a piece of gear
gearsets can be dragged onto hotbars
instantaneous job switching with one click.
hazy flint
Can all my 80 crafters get away with wearing the main set of crafting and materia infused gear I own. I only just remembered you can have multiple crafters on the same gear because they don’t exclusively use it it’s whoever I am at the time. Only thing I can think of is having a variety of looks XD
little swift
Yes you can use the disciple of hand gear instead of class specifc gear to share it among all your crafters
hazy flint
Cool I just thought if I have my main set which has all materia infused in I can just use that for them all because they don’t require like anything specific
Just slowly get more tops to look a little unique haha
uneven galleon
Do people take samurais for raiding? I want to dip my toes into endgame raiding but I'm not sure what to level up. I have RDM, BLM at 70, SMN at 74, SAM at 73, and MCH at 70. I want to be a useful job
oak ice
All jobs can clear all all content
So if someone denies entry to any job you're dodging a bullet
warped nest
Personal Mastery is more important over the jobs ranking
little swift
The most useful job is the one you're most comfortable in
uneven galleon
So I can choose basically whatever, that sounds great. I guess for starters an easier job is better so I can focus more on the mechanics and less on the jobs rotation and ssuch
crimson wind
Do Pagos and Pyros give more tomes/NM than Anemos?
celest bison
#glamour-discussion ask in this channel @brittle umbra
obsidian patio
dress looks modded, not sure about the boots
jade quartz
boots look modded too
celest bison
Also yeah its modded
jade quartz
face paint 👀
whole lagoon
i mean bloody mary i thought she was ghost and shit
jade quartz
only gives reward if you have a hunt bill directing you to kill her.
celest bison
BRUH i forgot about that mob
jade quartz
She's a large green penguin.
obsidian patio
nah, just a fish-vomiting bird.
jade quartz
She will vomit fish at you if engaged.
whole lagoon
zinc orbitBOT
mossy tartan
In extreme ||titania||, I don’t understand the big vines part (not the ones that expand) do they move, or are they still? And do they kill instantly when you touch either of them?
obsidian patio
The ones during the 3 big adds?
obsidian patio
they smack the direction they're facing. Not sure how much damage they do though
mossy tartan
Is the smack’s range infinite in said direction?
obsidian patio
yep
the way they're set up is that they'll smack opposite squares of the arena
So one set will smack the NW section, and the other will smack the SE section
or it could be NE and SW
tidal yarrow
what's the point of selling super overpriced stuff? like rebel coat at 4milion
while there are many others at 900k
leaden ginkgo
is there a way to get past tomestones?
leaden ginkgo
do the items from past events return?
obsidian patio
The only Exclusive items you're missing from the past tomestone events are the items that cost 100 tomes
and no, none of them have currently returned
leaden ginkgo
as a new player, what's the best way to get the best from the current event?
I like the red panda minion, it's a shame I missed it
obsidian patio
praetorium and castrum are probably your best bet.
little swift
I would say rival wings or aurum vale aren't awful alternatives
leaden ginkgo
I was spamming Dzemael Darkhold (I'm lvl 45 atm)
obsidian patio
red panda can be bought from the marketboard, though price can vary
leaden ginkgo
so should I just focus on getting to lvl50 and run those dungeons instead of spamming Dzemael Darkhold for tomes?
slate crow
Is tanking the same basic principle for each class/job in that role? Keep enmity icon on and attack enemies to keep them interested in you?
obsidian patio
yep
@leaden ginkgo depends on queue times for the most part
Also for Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium they have unskippable cutscenes so those dungeons always take a certain amount of time
leaden ginkgo
I see, thanks again
obsidian patio
Castrum usually takes around 25 minutes or so while Praetorium goes around 40.
leaden ginkgo
Darkhold is faster but rewards 3 tomes only
slate crow
I noticed that while PLD has the yellow shield thing, DRK has Grits, so I’m guessing the others have ones.
leaden ginkgo
yea each tank has their own tank stance
gunbreaker has royal guard, warrior has defiance
storm rampart
Is it worth it going for materia before level 50 or should I just hold off until then?
leaden ginkgo
you can just meld the materia you extract from your items
you should get tier 2 materia from them
you get a message and animation when your gear reaches 100% spiritbond
obsidian patio
I wouldn't really bother, you'll replace your gear frequently and unless you keep remembering to retrieve the materia from your old stuff you'll need to keep getting new materia
storm rampart
Last question, are the apartments okay? I'm getting tired of this inn and I think making the 500k is doable.
Wait, nvm
level locked
Until give it maybe a week
slate arrow
Extended movement
crimson wind
mmk
slate arrow
basically, if your ~3 seconds every 2 GCDs isn't enough it's less of a DPS loss than not casting
grim adder
How long should I stick with the bloodhempen crafting gear?
rough lance
is fully set of augmented shire good enough for blue mage for now? i don need bis >.<
rough lance
ok thanks
grim adder
I'm at 1k gil let's hope i can afford it by 65 😩
ocean pilot
anyone here left handed in endgame? im wondering how to set my keybinds to universally be working for every class so i dont have to get used to another setup every time i switch
atm im trying to sort out the hotbars for gunbreaker and it just breaks my fingers tbh, im out of ideas
mossy tartan
Does ||Tsukuyomi’s|| last phase theme and ||Suzaku’s|| theme both share a specific theme that is in some sort rearranged? At the start of the male singer’s section of ||suzaku’s|| and at the start of the female singer’s section of ||tsukuyomi’s||, both of them share almost the same melody at that part
dense pier
Hey
I am looking through 60-70 job quests for crafters
It says I have to make something using a resource that I can't gather
Do the 60-70 crafter quests not require you to use actual mats for their quests?
obsidian patio
Correct, the NPCs give you materials to make the item
dense pier
YES
I finished getting all my crafters to 71+ through GC
Time to start dumping mats
zinc orbitBOT
grim adder
@dense pier oo Can you turn in things multiple times for your grand company or did you just do it everyday?
dense pier
@grim adder
If you turn in high-quality, you get DOUBLE the reward.
If the item has a yellow star, it also means double reward meaning you get quadruple(?) reward.
Basically, turn in a HQ item every day
and you get a level every day
Sometimes 2 levels
If you get lucky with a star
grim adder
O I’ve just been turning in NQ things
dense pier
sometimes you can get 3-4 levels
grim adder
Woops
dense pier
It's not bad, but turning in HQ definitely has a much bigger impact
I've been gaining 1-2 levels a day in all my crafts
slowly bringing them to 71+
I could have probably leveled them faster spamming collectibles but I didn't wanna do that
grim adder
At least that makes sitting at a timed node for 30 minutes trying to get lettuce better for me
Ty for the info!!
vivid wolf
So i got 5 Silver feathers for some reason, what should i do with them?
green grail
they're only used for leveling gear at calamity salvagers, so you can use them instead of poetics to get some gear at lvl 50/60/70
vivid wolf
Is the lvl 50 weapon worth it?
slate arrow
the ironworks one? Yes
vivid wolf
Whats the purple gear? Zodiac or something i think it was called
Can i start farming that at lvl 50 too?
jade quartz
@mossy tartan yes, it's the central motif of the Yanxia theme https://youtu.be/0IkIGkp9OyE?t=96
You could say it's the theme of Doma.
obsidian patio
yes, but relic weapons that aren't for the current expansion are basically only for glamour/looks
since you can get weapons equivalent to the final stage of each Relic weapon series for a handful of poetics.
vivid wolf
Do i get poetics just by doing duties?
obsidian patio
level 50/60/70 content, yes
vivid wolf
Currently only getting tomestones of law
Oh that explains
Probably not far enough into the msq
green grail
the law you're getting is a moogle event currency, not the tomestones for actual gear and stuff
obsidian patio
the non-law tomestones are found in the currency menu
grim adder
Can i finish up my culinarian from 60 - 80 just by doing GC and the diadem?
dense pier
Yes
Diadem is made for leveling
crafters and gatherers
If you're quick, and willing to spend gil on gear upgrades or prepare them before hand
you can level a crafter from 20-60 in Firmament in around like, 45 - 60 minutes
maybe less, cause I was distracted and being casual about it
grim adder
It’s probably going to be more casual since i only have 7k gil 🙈
stray dawn
if you add materia to a gear, can you get the materia back?
dense pier
Yes
stray dawn
how do I do it?
gloomy ice
Right click the gear piece that has the materia you want and then click Retrieve Materia.
stray dawn
roger 
gloomy ice
Grades 6 and below have a 100% success rate. Grades 7 and 8 can fail. If it fails it breaks.
vocal shell
Do you always get a seed back when harvesting plants?
gloomy ice
Not always. It’s pretty lucky if you do actually.
vocal shell
alright, thanks!
gritty oracle
How common is retrieving materia failing? Should I start stockpiling materia and clusters now? (Have ~20 Stella and ~30-40 plani)
gloomy mortar
Is there a max limit on tradecraft Leves? All of them now only offer 3000 Exp. I just unlocked level 60, and all those are also only 3000 Exp
zinc orbitBOT
tidal yarrow
is it possible that to progress with my heavensward msq I must need to fly?
or am I just not finding the way
mossy tartan
@jade quartz sorry for the late reply + tag, but thank you for confirming - I was wondering because I heard that leitmotif somewhere but couldn’t exactly pinpoint it
dense pier
Yuuko, I think there is one zone that
If you don't get the aetheryte and teleport out of the area
you're kinda screwed
and require someone to fly you over
but idk
tidal yarrow
I'm asking a friend to fly me
azure kettle
Does anyone know why the mog station won't let me pay my sub with crysta
tidal yarrow
thank you
azure kettle
It just says no changes to your subscription or payment methof
zinc orbitBOT
strong sphinx
under high duty party finder, people often have something like "2 chests, 1 chest, chest dont matter" what do these terms mean?
jade quartz
Due to the restrictions on savage loot
If all players have not yet cleared the fight during that week's lockout, then the fight will reward two treasure coffers at the end.
If 1-4 players have already cleared the fight once that week, then only one coffer will appear.
If 5+ players have already cleared that week, no coffers will appear.
So 2 chests = don't join if you've already cleared this week, we want maximum loot.
strong sphinx
so if they write "2 chests" it means if I cleared the fight that weak, i should not join?
jade quartz
correct
strong sphinx
ahhh okay!
jade quartz
btw
if you skip ahead to do a higher floor
then it counts as having cleared the previous floors for that week.
strong sphinx
WAIT OMG
jade quartz
So if you did E8S first
then it counts you as having cleared 5 6 and 7
and you can't get loot.
strong sphinx
thats insane woah i didnt know that
jade quartz
Enforces doing them in order each week.
strong sphinx
thats such a qol to know thing right now, thanks because i was about to join e7s w/o clearing e6s and e5s
faint flare
You lose the loot rights the exact moment you load in
jade quartz
Mhm
strong sphinx
ok thank god i didnt do that yet
faint flare
Even if you never touch the boss, you'll lose loot if you skip
frozen karma
what does it do to link a gear set to a glamour plate?
jade quartz
means when you change to that gear set it will apply that plate
so if you update a piece of gear in the gear set, the glamour plate will automatically apply over the new piece too
also allows you to do different glamours for different jobs that wear the same gear
faint flare
Still follows the glamour plate rule of only applying in towns
nova beacon
elfin wagon
whts the difference between eos nd selene
sick zenith
Ones goth and ones e girl
slate arrow
@nova beacon that's normal yes
nova beacon
ik
frozen karma
Is there any point in using gear sets before I hit lvl80?
faint flare
To swap jobs easily
jade quartz
Absolutely
zinc orbitBOT
vivid wolf
How do i get the other item needed for ironworks? (Not the poetics, the other item)
median locust
The upgrade items? Same vendor, different option. Also costs Poetics.
It's either Tomestones of Poetics (Special Arms) or (Other), can't remember which
vivid wolf
Oh so basically i only need tomestones?
median locust
Yep
there's other ways to get those items but Poetics are 10x easier than anything else lol
median locust
Do you mean to augment ironworks or to get an ironworks weapon?
vivid wolf
Just to get some ironworks gear, so far i only got the weapon via chocobo feathers
median locust
Oh I get it now. There's a vendor in Mor Dhona that sells all of it with Poetics. It doesn't require anything else. She's over here:
There's a counter with 3 vendors, she's in the middle
slate arrow
To get the weapon, you need 10 Poetics tokens and one specific tomestone
I think it's the encrypted tomestone but I can't keep all of the straight in my mind
vivid wolf
Yeah i think it was asking for an encrypted tomestone too
slate arrow
anyways yeah everything else is available for tomestones
median locust
10 Rowena's Token (Poetics), 1 Encrypted Tomestone
Unless you're PLD then only 7 tokens and you just buy the shield with poetics
slate arrow
In the later expansion zones the augment vendor is also nearby but to augment ironworks to 130 you need to go to gerolt's assistant in North Shroud, Hrystmill
junior tundra
why do samurai get meditation at 60 if they cant take advantage of it till lvl 80 to use shoha
dire quest
is there a way to change the install location for the game? i'm trying to have it install on my :D drive but it automatically installs in the :C drive
median locust
Meditation still gives you kenki the longer you hold it. You're supposed to use it during downtime when the boss is untargettable and you have nothing better to do
slate arrow
@junior tundra I mean, you can use it during downtime for free kenki
it's just
yeah
dire quest
steam
vivid wolf
You need to create a new steam library folder on your D drive
slate arrow
@dire quest install the launcher to the drive you want your game to install to and it should take care of everything else
dire quest
i did
slate arrow
Steam now allows you to direct the install anywhere natively
but the FFXIV launcher itself is just a skinned up pretty launcher from like 2008 or so
dire quest
it installed the launcher in the D drive but the actual game installs in the C drive
slate arrow
Too bad Hank isn't online right now, I know I installed mine on my second drive but I can't recall how I did it for the life of me
kind eagle
grand quest
median locust
I know you mean something related to your grand company but that doesn't narrow it down :v
Nothing related to your GC really gives any good gil as far as I know though
median locust
Gathering things that are in demand on the MB
Zonureskin maps when you're max level
and yeah MSQ gives a good bit when you do it
vocal shell
Kingcakes, Adamantite Francescas and Dispelling arrows go for quite a bit
kind eagle
im just lv 45 bard
vocal shell
using gc seals
kind eagle
and lv36 msq
vivid wolf
Don't really need a lot of Gil at that lvl
kind eagle
i need 2m
forest laurel
no you don't lol
vocal shell
what for ?
kind eagle
upgrades
forest laurel
msq gives them
vocal shell
upgrades of ?
forest laurel
don't buy gear off the marketboard
kind eagle
i think market board is better
median locust
you don't need 2m for gear at lv45
forest laurel
it's not lmao
vocal shell
it usually is not
median locust
don't buy gear off the market board
vivid wolf
Do job quests
vocal shell
the gear msq gives you is more than enough
vivid wolf
Gives great gear at 45 and 50
median locust
if you still have some bad slots just go to any of the main cities and look through the NPC vendors
vocal shell
when you unlock mor dhona you can get lvl50 poetic gear, that should last till you get to the next upgrade of poetic gear
median locust
one of them will have lv45 gear
molten spruce
how do i fly?
median locust
Gather all aether currents in an area @molten spruce
vivid wolf
I still run around in lvl 5 withered earrings
molten spruce
ahhhh
vocal shell
lvl80 gear should not be your main focus atm
median locust
you don't need a lv80 weapon now
vocal shell
msq is not very gear heavy
solar hinge
Heyya guys! Quick question, can crysta still be used to buy subscriptions?
vocal shell
yes
solar hinge
Weird. I don't see the crysta in payment methods when renewing my subs
proud willow
If you have the game through Steam, you may need to log into Mogstation through the website instead of getting there through Steam
solar hinge
I have it on my ps4
vocal shell
you dont see this?
proud willow
Hmm, then I dunno
vocal shell
Weird, i see it on my page.
solar hinge
@vocal shell ikr? O.o and it wont let me buy crysta as well lol
vocal shell
Have you tried it on another device?
solar hinge
Yep. Both phone and laptop
vocal shell
weird.
molten anchor
so is it worth it to buy revised survival manuals over commercial survival manuals after level 70? i know the latter has halved effectiveness but its also 10 times cheaper so it seems to me its better to get 10 of those for 30m exp overall when i use all of them up over buying one of the former for 12m exp overall. but i also know next to nothing about gathering (or crafting) and i'm not sure if i'm missing something here.
solar hinge
Well, thanks anyway guys. Ima try and contact support on page. :)
vocal shell
gl ! \o/
median locust
why tho
vivid wolf
I regret that
median locust
There's little to no reason for being overlevelled on MSQ
vivid wolf
Currently lvl 51 but msq is still at 46
kind eagle
so i can use that
median locust
Most people do overlevel the MSQ but not on purpose lol
kind eagle
exp for sam
vivid wolf
Always need to levelsync
median locust
lv40 exp is nothing for a lv50 class
warped nest
You still want to keep an eye out because later on you would be nearing lvl 80 but your MSQ is still on low 70s
vivid wolf
And for second classes, do potd
warped nest
Until you capped at lvl 80 and start wasting dungeon/msq exp, doesn't really matter how much you over level.
open coral
It's reasonable and pretty normal to be 5-10 levels ahead of the MSQ coming out of ARR (depending on a variety of factors). The gap tends to narrow the closer you get to the end of ShB though, even if you're that far ahead.
warped nest
It is just a reminder that you don't know who is on the other side
They can be a creep
They can coerced you into gifting them stuff
Etc etc
kind eagle
Damn
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kind eagle
i didnt know about it
warped nest
It is not unlike meeting new people irl
I dunno why you'd think this is any different
median locust
It's more like, if you friend someone you can't take yourself off their friendslist, so they'll know where your character is at all times even if you don't want them to know
and in very rare cases, some people use it to stalk
but it's far from common
warped nest
It is a possibility, and they need to remind you of it
kind eagle
Do the developer plan to fix this
vivid wolf
It isn't broken
median locust
they haven't made a statement about it as far as I know but I don't know for sure
open coral
There's nothing to fix? It's just a caveat emptor
vivid wolf
No need to get fixed
open coral
Free Company
median locust
Free Company, AKA guilds
open coral
Guilds
Well, player guilds. They're not called guilds because the places where you learn the various jobs are called guilds, and that would just be really confusing.
vivid wolf
Do other players hear a bard's performance?
median locust
Yes
vivid wolf
Nice, time to annoy ppl
kind eagle
ah lim losa
median locust
People often stand in public places playing music
kind eagle
median locust
there's also a setting to turn it off so you can't hear people who use it to annoy lol
opal bough
Best use of poetics?
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median locust
@opal bough
kind eagle
no wonder people tends to be cautious
thats actually good
like a way
to teach people
leaden ginkgo
Does mateus feel dead for anyone else
leaden ginkgo
That's true but It feels like it's always like this
fresh lodge
Its one of the largest servers on Crystal
molten spruce
where do i see how many more aether currents i need to attune?
open coral
In the Travel menu
fresh lodge
Travel > Aether currents
opal bough
So can I choose one and only go for it?
karmic dirge
Hello! 🙂 I'm new and rolled a healer by accident but it's fine. What is the etiquette around player commendations? Do I always give it to the tank? I gave it to the guy who did all the role play stuff with the gun powder. Thanks! 🙂
fresh lodge
There is no etiquette
vivid wolf
You can always change class
fresh lodge
Just give it to whoever you feel like
karmic dirge
Ah great, I was afraid that he might be angry
open coral
You don't have to give your comm to anyone if you don't like. The system doesn't say who gave you a comm, just that you got one.
So yeah, just give yours to whoever you liked the best.
karmic dirge
Thanks you all helped me a lot! 🙂
vivid wolf
When do you unlock samurai?
molten spruce
lvl 50
vivid wolf
Hmm mustve missed it
noble ember
So for end game gearing, I have enough to buy two ilvl490 accessories or 1 big piece (chest/legs) which is more beneficial
Cheapest first for ilvl increase or big pieces for stats. All my gear is ilvl 480 + ilvl 485 weapon atm.
faint flare
@noble ember stats first
vivid wolf
Oh alright
molten spruce
when you get first job to 50 you can pick samurai at ul dah
molten spruce
no
vocal shell
50
faint flare
50
molten spruce
lvl 50
vivid wolf
Might need to find some gear first then i guess
vocal shell
It gives you gear
open coral
If you do like, one day's-worth of roulettes for poetics, you can buy Ironworks accessories, then go back and get the rest of the stuff later. That's how I usually handle it if I haven't gone and bought the Ironworks stuff ahead of time with surplus poetics.
open coral
You can get:
500 poetics for first daily MSQ roulette
100 poetics for first daily Trial/Alliance raid roulette
80 poetics for first daily 50/60/70 roulette
Plus potentially 50 or 100 bonus poetics per instance if there's a new player, and (for the 50/60/70) an additional 120-ish per instance.
But at the very least you can easily earn about 800 poetics per day.
normal breach
For people who played both what is better warrior or dark knight
junior yacht
what do you mean by "better"
fresh lodge
They're both good
junior yacht
like, more fun?
fresh lodge
Neither is better
normal breach
What do you enjoy more
open coral
It really depends on your personal playstyle preference.
junior yacht
i preferred warrior
compact rose
New player here. Is it worth to change from DPS to Tank just for shorter queue time? I really enjoy playing DPS but the queue times are abyssmal
median locust
That's a valid reason to play tank. Try it out, see if you like it.
normal breach
I'm fairly new playing like a month and I started tank and my que times are so fast
open coral
That's kind of up to you. You can certainly tank (or heal) just for dungeons and dps for the rest of the time if you like, but you'll have to keep both jobs independently leveled and geared.
Typically queue times for dps are going to be in the 10-15 minute range, so it's not awful
compact rose
I just played one dungeon and it had a 30 minute queue time.
open coral
Yeah, right now at this particular time of day that's not surprising.
It's 10am on a weekday
And that's on the east coast
compact rose
Are there a lot of dungeons in the story quests? I kinda just want to stick with the story quests.
vagrant copper
Right before reset too so ultra double bad timng
open coral
Yes. There are dungeons very regularly throughout the story which are required to progress.
vital lichen
I wouldn't say a lot, but there's dungeons that can slow your progress here and there.
open coral
In ARR, dungeons and instances occur about every 3 levels, while from HW onwards you'll have a new dungeon every odd level.
molten anchor
not every one of those is required usually though, so if you do just the msq dungeons there will be larger gaps
open coral
... I was specifically referring to the ones required for the MSQ...
median locust
Up until lv50 every other dungeon is optional, but in expansions the levelling ones are almost all mandatory
compact rose
The queue times are better in the expansions?
open coral
Not really? They're about the same across the board thanks to level sync.
jolly sorrel
So I picked up Scholar, haven't played it for ages and some stuff changed. I'm at lv60, I've a crapton of abilities, and I'm a bit overwhelmed.
Could someone give me something of.. I don't know. flowchart or something?
Just need to get in the hang of things
compact rose
Ok. I think will stay as a DPS for now. Thanks for all the help
jolly sorrel
right now I just use bio, ruin, adlo and press random buttons. I'm sure I can do better
open coral
Have you gone through and read the tooltips for each of your abilities? If not, your best option might actually be to simply remove everything from your bars, then go through your spellbook one by one and replace them while reading what they do.
jolly sorrel
That's exactly the step I'm on and then I came here. I just re-placed everything on my hotbars and thats the part I got overwhelmed at. I've at least seven different heals for various situations, all of which make me go like "or I could use adlo"
open coral
I mean, Adlo is your primary tool as SCH. Everything else is basically backup for that.
azure kettle
How big of a movement increase is peloton vs sprint
open coral
It's the same, but with a shorter cd and affects the entire party.
median locust
It's very slightly slower than sprint
molten anchor
doesn't having both active at the same time increase speed further too? i swear when i get a peloton and pop sprint it feels like i move slightly faster
fresh lodge
No
faint flare
Sprint overwrites everything
fresh lodge
They don't stack
median locust
you only get the effect of the fastest one
molten anchor
oh its just because sprint is slightly faster
open coral
You move faster because Sprint is a little faster
jolly sorrel
I've an aoe regen, an aoe magic mitigate, a single target shield, an aoe shield, a single target heal, a better singletarget heal, a better aoe heal, another aoe mitigate, a delayed heal, a buff that spreads a shield, a buff that turns shield into hp, and a buff that crits a shield, another aoe heal, another aoe heal that's also a shield----- I've many options 😦
faint flare
And you use all your off global heals first
Throw whispering dawn mostly on cooldown
Its free healing
median locust
A lot of those are off the GCD so you can use them in between Broils
jolly sorrel
Alright, that's good advice. I'll check which of these are oGCD
azure kettle
@faint flare ok ty
faint flare
Heal with Lustrates, heal aoe damage with indom
open coral
Healing with any job is mostly about learning when damage comes out, and what is most effective against it.
faint flare
Your fairy abilities and aetherflow are ogcds
fresh lodge
You basically want to use Aetherflow on cooldown
But never use it if you still have aetherflow
If its about to come off cooldown then just dump the rest using Energy Drain or something
jolly sorrel
Where do I prioritize Sacred Soil at?
Always keep up or only if I need extra regen?
err
mitigation. regen is whm
sleek pagoda
when tanks pulls a bunch of mobs
faint flare
The thing with sacred soil pre regen is that lustrate tends to heal more than it mitigates
Unless there's a FUCCCCK ton of damage
jolly sorrel
Okay, so pre regen I may as well ignore soil and just use lustrate
unless I need -both-
fresh lodge
!action Sacred Soil
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fresh lodge
No
open coral
You can drop SS if there's big damage going out on the party
faint flare
After regen its amazing
fresh lodge
Use Sacred Soil when a large amount of damage
open coral
The mitigate isn't insignificant, even pre-regen
fresh lodge
Such as during a big pull or a raid wide AoE is coming out
open coral
Just after you get the regen effect it's even stronger.
I think it's actually better than the WHM version
jolly sorrel
Mixed signals, I heard just now that Lustrate heals more than Sacred Soil will mitigate, unless the damage is really really significant
open coral
!action Asylum
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faint flare
Lustrate/indom
molten anchor
lustrate is single target right? wheras sacred soil can hit many people. i dont play scholar but it seems like it would be useful for party wide damage
open coral
SS is a ground effect, so it only hits as many people as are willing to stand in it
faint flare
Or both
open coral
Indom is targeted
faint flare
Indom is around you
fresh lodge
You use Sacred Soil when you want to mitigate a large amount of party damage
Indom won't save the party if they're dead
lean yarrow
Is there a pros and cons list on the different ranged dps? From the looks of it, if I don't want a mage, I pretty much have to take ARC to BRD and then try the level 50 classes?
open coral
You have to remember that part of the healing job is knowing when and how to combo your skills for the best effect. Indom or SS on their own might not seem particularly strong, but when you stack both effects, you can cover a lot more damage.
jolly sorrel
Well, I'll use this info and decide on the spot then. The "oGCDs first, faeries+aetherflows" helped me a lot!
Deployment Tactics allows me to turn an Adlo into a stronger Succor, is that the idea of this buff?
fresh lodge
It spreads the current Galvanize buff to people around the target
faint flare
But you miss the healing of succor
open coral
!faq meta
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open coral
@lean yarrow
lean yarrow
thank you!
fresh lodge
They were asking whats the difference between them
jolly sorrel
So it's one of those "there's an ult coming, lets bring out the big shields while someone else tops the hp bar"?
molten anchor
yeah usually i see healer bubbles appearing just before the boss does a super heavily telegraphed raidwide
median locust
Don't play ranged DPS but I can mention a few things about them @lean yarrow
MCH doesn't have RNG in its rotation but can be ping dependent. Doesn't give any DPS buffs.
BRD has some RNG and gives small buffs.
DNC has tons of RNG and gives big buffs. Needs to be in melee range for some skills but has a dash that helps with that.
jolly sorrel
Alright. And the other one, Emergency Tactics- when is pure HP better than half HP + shield?
Best I can come up with is uh... that one doom mechanic in wanderers keep where you gotta top someone off, but
faint flare
When you need healing but not shield, like when shields are already applied or "heal to full" mechanics
Or help healing drks Living dead
jolly sorrel
Oh, when shields are already up and you still need a massive heal for the bar /or else/. Yeah I can see that happen
steel anvil
is there any reason to gear gathering retainers beyond the venture unlock gear requirement?
open coral
Better retainer gear = better items returned from ventures
lean yarrow
@median locust Oh damn DNC sounds fun, When you say tons of RNG, do you mean tons of passive buffs that could pop and change my rotation?
jolly sorrel
Alright, two more questions and I'm completely covered. Physick, drop it from my hotbar? Or are there times when I would still want to spam it?
jade quartz
Better items from exploration ventures, more items/hq chance from regular gathering ventures
steel anvil
is there a cap to that? Or should my retainers be wearing materia melded facet gear?
jade quartz
!faq retainerbp
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steel anvil
ty
jade quartz
Hit that
fresh lodge
Basically the short of it is:
Dancer: The proc Job the the 3, has a heavy reliance on RNG for its attacks, has the lowest personal damage of the 3 but offers excellent party damage buffs. Very simply to play and a good job to play if you want something simple to get started.
Bard: A bit of a mix between good personal DPS and party damage support, has some RNG but not as much as Dancer, its rotation is based on rotating between its 3 songs and taking advantage of each songs unique effect. Probably the most complicated of the 3, but still fun to play.
Machinist: Basically no RNG and no party support, but has the highest personal damage of the 3. Has a very straightforward rotation but is very ping reliant, above 150 ping you're be at a decent disadvantage. Might look complicated at first but is very straightforward in the end. @lean yarrow
median locust
@lean yarrow You have a 1-2 combo as your main attack. 1 and 2 have 50% chance to proc 2 other skills that have a 50% chance to give you a feather proc. Feather procs can either be used on single target or AoE, and that has a 50% chance to give you a SUPER feather proc which is big damage in an AoE. So RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG.
jolly sorrel
And, next to the Physick question- pets got a big overhaul, did it change what Eos vs Selene does?
jade quartz
Yes
molten anchor
physick seems like it would only be useful in the exact situation where you have less than 1k mana and need to get a heal out immediately, which seems very unlikely to me. but i'm one of those people who doesn't leave anything off the bar
open coral
@lean yarrow DNC has a special resource called "Esprit" which has a chance of being generated when the DNC or their partner uses abilities. The generation of this resource is entirely RNG, but is used to execute Saber Dance, one of their more powerful skills.
Likewise there is an rng element to the generation of feathers for their Fan Dance I and Fan Dance 2, as well as whether Fan Dance III procs. Also there are four abilities (two ST, two AoE) which are also rng procs off of their lesser versions.
jolly sorrel
Pet glamours here we go.
open coral
The ability of DNC to do big damage is almost entirely rng dependent.
jolly sorrel
As for physick, thanks. I'll drop it in the corner of my hotbar somewhere
jovial horizon
i'm trying to return to FFXIV but it's giving me a lot of trouble
I bought the complete edition on steam but when I try to log in it says "This service account does not have a valid FINAL FANTASY XIV license for this platform or your subscription has expired" and i also can't register the DLC on the mog station
median locust
Yeah you can get bad procs the entire fight and do bad damage just cause the game felt like being meant to you today
jovial horizon
it says that one of the DLC was actually registered already?
and the other one was invalid?
median locust
Have you used your account outside of Steam before?
median locust
you can't use a PC account from outside of Steam, on Steam, at all.
you'd need to create an entirerly new account to play on steam
median locust
Was always like that afaik
oh I asked outside of steam and you said yea
if you already owned it on steam why did you buy complete edition
leaden ginkgo
So
leaden ginkgo
Zodiac Weapon, Fates for Atma
is it just... absolutely random?
open coral
Yeah
jovial horizon
complete edition was like a $15 upgrade for all DLC
leaden ginkgo
okydokey
median locust
But Complete Edition is Standard + Shadowbringers. So you only needed Shadowbringers
I guess it only made you buy Shadowbringers then lol
do you have a subscription running?
jovial horizon
i do
median locust
you can't login without one
lean yarrow
Damn thats some really good info on ranged, thanks everyone.
I lean towards complexity and min/maxing even though I know they're not soooo heavily rewarded here. Might go for Bard/Dancer, but I still need to try my hand at healing actual content.
median locust
Buying the DLC doesn't give you game time
jovial horizon
i know
median locust
then login to mogstation and make sure you do have one running cause the launcher seems to think you either don't own the game or don't have a sub
jovial horizon
i do
molten anchor
how recently did you resub? sometimes it takes me a couple of hours to be able to log in after resubbing, since i dont use auto renew i do that quite frequently
fresh lodge
Is the bubble next to the expansions filled in?
open coral
@lean yarrow For complexity, BRD would definitely be a better option. Where DNC has a ton of rng with the potential to add complexity, BRD has about a million buttons to push all the time and about five different things to keep track of.
fresh lodge
Also are you launching through Steam?
jovial horizon
no it's not
it won't let me register the DLC anyway
and yea i'm launching through steam
jovial horizon
yea
fresh lodge
Like Right click FFXIV > Show CD key?
jovial horizon
it gave me a heavensward one and shadowbringer one
if i try and register the heavensward one it says it was already regsitered
and the shadowbringer one says is invalid
and also the starter edition but that one's already registered
on my account
jovial horizon
yea
fresh lodge
You shouldn't have been given a HW key
open coral
I'm wondering if the HW key is old, from when they bought the game previously?
faint flare
Its probably from back when they played
median locust
That's probably from when they first played, or when Heavensward was free at some point
jovial horizon
hmmm
come to think of it i might have played on heavensward?
but it's also not attached to my account?
so i'm very confused
open coral
It's included
jovial horizon
cause i played in 2016
median locust
are you on the right account?
fresh lodge
Take a screenshot of the whole mogstation page
open coral
That looks like you don't have the Steam version
If it were, the "Account Type" field would say "Standard (Steam)"
median locust
Then yeah there's the problem. You can't register a Steam key to a non-Steam PC account
no matter what
jovial horizon
that's very confusing
open coral
It has to do with game licenses and Japanese anti-trust laws.
fresh lodge
jovial horizon
cause I have the starter edition on steam and it's registered to an account already
open coral
Are you sure it's registered to the account you're currently accessing on the Mogstation? And not a different one?
jade quartz
Your starter Edition must be registered to a different service account.
jolly sorrel
That sounds like its on the mark. You have two accounts, probably.
jade quartz
Both types cannot be registered to the same account.
open coral
I would say, if you only remember the one account login for Mogstation, just buy the PC version of ShB from the SE store and go from there.
jade quartz
If you have registered your starter edition, it is to a different service account.
jolly sorrel
I think Steam allows you to cancel a purchase within x days?
jovial horizon
I can't rebuy the starter edition on steam
jolly sorrel
GG
fresh lodge
You don't have to rebuy the Starter edition on Steam
junior tundra
do i miss out if i dont support anogg/konogg
fresh lodge
The complete collect comes with it
faint flare
No doge
open coral
No @junior tundra same rewards either way, just slightly different dialogues.
jovial horizon
Yes but that key it came with is already registered
fresh lodge
Unless someone used your game key on a different account, it can't already be used
median locust
but you said you already had starter edition
fresh lodge
They have the Non-Steam starter edition
jovial horizon
it didn't include the starter edition since i already had it
median locust
They said they bought complete edition and it only cost them $15 which leads me to think it only gave them ShB
jovial horizon
i looked in the purchase history* and yea it only gave me shadowbringers
fresh lodge
Now you need to find the account you tied the Starter Edition to
jovial horizon
i have no idea how to do that
can i check registration key on the mogstation?
even then i only have one account as far as i know
unless a key was stolen through steam or something
jade quartz
If you are sure you’ve never made a second account
jovial horizon
pretty sure yea
jade quartz
Then probably you never registered the key for your Steam starter edition
So try creating a new Square-Enix FFXIV service account and registering your Steam CD key to it
jovial horizon
says it's already registered
jade quartz
What does
jolly sorrel
Alternatively, consider it a loss and rebuy the proper ShB version?
jovial horizon
idk at that point i'm gonna request a refund
if i don't get it then i'm just gonna dip
this is not worth the hassle
or the money
cause on some level i basically had money stolen from me afaik
jolly sorrel
But yeah. Can't mix and match steam and retail, that's the takeaway
jade quartz
You haven’t had money stolen from you 😔
static widget
do you need the starter edition to play or can you just get shadowbringer standard edition
jovial horizon
this is money lost to me that i won't be able to get back
I can't buy the starter edition on steam
fresh lodge
You need the starter edition
static widget
bruh
fresh lodge
jade quartz
@static widget you can either buy entry edition and Shadowbringers separately, or buy complete edition which is both in one purchase
median locust
It says on the Steam page that it's not compatible with FFXIV outside of Steam. It also says on the Steam page that it's not eligible for a refund because it gives you a key which they have no way of knowing if it's been used or not
static widget
I bought the standard edition of shadow bringer on SE
remote lintel
that's dlc
fresh lodge
Steam doesn't give you an already used key
median locust
Yeah you need Starter Edition to play. ShB is only the DLC
nova beacon
do i have to use glamour to make my armor look like ricard or kain's ?
static widget
oh my god
fresh lodge
The only reason a steam key from steam can be already used is if someone literally used it
fresh lodge
Then find the account it was used on
median locust
then play outside of steam
jade quartz
Steam is an official distributor, its keys are not a risk
open coral
You've got two options here.
jade quartz
You have either used the key mistakenly yourself or just not done your research
median locust
Sadly that's the gist of it
jade quartz
This can’t reasonably be blamed on the company or retailer
open coral
Either you eat the $15 loss and buy a PC copy of ShB from the SE store, or you figure out the login information for the account to which you registered your Steam Starter Edition.
There aren't really any other options at this point.
jade quartz
Where are you actually getting the information that your Steam key has already been registered?
As far as I know that’s not tracked on the Steam library page
jovial horizon
if I try and create a new account with the steam key then it says it's already registered
fresh lodge
Just check your purchase history to find when you bought the starter edition
jolly sorrel
That means that you must have an account where you registered that key on. Gotta find the login and password.
median locust
Do you have 2 service accounts under one account?
median locust
If they haven't kicked you, yes
jovial horizon
As far as I know
jovial horizon
it's not in my purchase history
median locust
you reappear where you last were
rare comet
huh
faint flare
You dont auto leave the party
rare comet
i'm just gonna assume they completed dungeon then
jolly sorrel
Even if the dungeon finishes, you just end up alone in the dungeon.
jovial horizon
Even going back to 2013 it's not in my purchase history
rare comet
since we were on lats boss
faint flare
People tend to wait
rare comet
wat
median locust
If you rejoin and you're outside the dungeon, that means they finished the dungeon
faint flare
Unless combat has started
remote lintel
@rare comet when you log back in you will spawn in the dungeon
jolly sorrel
Fair.