questions-and-help

[sleek spoke]

what are moogles

[weary umbra]

[obsidian patio]

which are basically flying fairy things

buy fluffy

[sleek spoke]

cute

[leaden ginkgo]

That fly

[sleek spoke]

whats their role in the game?

[shrewd owl]

theyre cute

and they do their own things

thats it

[sleek spoke]

nice xD

[leaden ginkgo]

And serve moogle king

[weary umbra]

moogle comes from a japanese portmanteau of Mole Bat

[shrewd owl]

theyre just another race in the world of hydaelyn

[leaden ginkgo]

@obsidian patio Does raiden thrust give me the combo action for Vorpal thrust?

[obsidian patio]

yes

[sleek spoke]

what about chocobos theyre just mounts right?

[leaden ginkgo]

And companions

[shrewd owl]

yeah weird yellow birds

[leaden ginkgo]

They fight with you

[obsidian patio]

they're basically the horses of the Final Fantasy universe

[weary umbra]

horsebirds

[sleek spoke]

coooool

[leaden ginkgo]

So Wynne, I should keep my job gauge up, by using AoE and Fang and Claw / Wheeling Thrust and I get Raiden Thrust when I do both

[sleek spoke]

everyone gets one automatically?

[leaden ginkgo]

If you want to get one

[shrewd owl]

you get one somewhere in ur msq

[leaden ginkgo]

Yes

If you dont, you dont have to

[sleek spoke]

why wouldnt i want one haha

[leaden ginkgo]

I dunno, there are better mounts

[sleek spoke]

so for now as a starter should i just be focusing on the main questline and nothing else?

[leaden ginkgo]

Not really

[shrewd owl]

do ur class quests too

[leaden ginkgo]

Play at the pace you enjoy

[shrewd owl]

and whatever blue quest icon too

[sleek spoke]

class quests and main story quests

[shrewd owl]

and yeah

just take ur time

[leaden ginkgo]

Right now I am not focusing much in my Main Scenario Quests

But I am focusing on side stuff

I am still having fun

[sleek spoke]

ok ^^

[leaden ginkgo]

So Wynne, I should keep my job gauge up, by using AoE and Fang and Claw / Wheeling Thrust and I get Raiden Thrust when I do both
@obsidian patio Is that correct?

[shrewd owl]

ye basically

[obsidian patio]

when you do both and hit the positional to get raiden thrust

but yeah 👍

[shrewd owl]

^

god i havent played dragoon in ages

[leaden ginkgo]

Or I just use True North

[shrewd owl]

True North works too

but just land ur positionals normally

[leaden ginkgo]

For me even if I dont need True North I use it anyways to practice "Keep casting"

But since I have more abilities that need it I should stop using it randomly in fights

[shrewd owl]

weave ur jumps too

they look cool

[leaden ginkgo]

The problem is some jumps' animation is too long

I cant weave correctly

I clip little bit

[obsidian patio]

you can only single weave with the jumps

[shrewd owl]

ye

[leaden ginkgo]

I cant single weave with the jumps, I always end up clipping a little

[obsidian patio]

and stardiver almost always clips in my experience

[leaden ginkgo]

Hold up how do I execute Wheeling Thrust and Fang and Claw if I need to make them Sharper / Enhanced?

[shrewd owl]

enhanced and sharper are just fancy terms

[leaden ginkgo]

I mistyped the question

How do I use them one after other

For Raiden Thrust

[little swift]

its a trait

[shrewd owl]

Land the positional of whichever move you have to use last

and it gives u raiden thrust

[little swift]

!trait lance mastery ii

[zinc orbit]

**Lance Mastery II** : lvl 76 DRG

Increases the potency of True Thrust to 290, Vorpal Thrust to 140, and Disembowel to 150.
Grants Raiden Thrust Ready if Fang and Claw is executed following Wheeling Thrust─or vice versa─while adhering to direction requirements.
Duration: 10s

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[leaden ginkgo]

Oh so I dont have to use them back to back?

[little swift]

sorry first lance mastery

!trait lance mastery

[zinc orbit]

**Lance Mastery** : lvl 64 DRG

Allows for immediate execution of Wheeling Thrust after landing Fang and Claw, or Fang and Claw after landing Wheeling Thrust, increasing potency by 100.

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[leaden ginkgo]

Oh ok

Thanks

[little swift]

so you get the ability to wheel after fang and vice versa at 64

so your combo becomes 12345 12354

essentially

and then at 76

your 1 becomes raiden

if you do it right

[leaden ginkgo]

I actually have 4 Disembowel and 5 true north

[little swift]

you know what i mean :^)

[leaden ginkgo]

Fang and Claw and Wheeling Thrust are CTRL 2 3

Yeah yeah I know

Thanks ❤️

[deep herald]

how is this game related to the rest of the final fantasy series

[green grail]

like any other final fantasy game

you have the usual chocobos and moogles and shiva etc but the story's not related

[deep herald]

oh ok

[leaden ginkgo]

Is this correct:
Blood of the Dragon: Starts "Blood of the Dragon" and extends it by 20 seconds.
Doom Spike -> Sonic Thrust: Extends "Blood of the Dragon" by 10 seconds.
Doom Spike -> Sonic Thrust -> Coerthan Torment: Extends "Blood of the Dragon" by 10 seconds
True Thrust -> Disembowel -> Chaos Thrust -> Wheeling Thrust: Extends "Blood of the Dragon" by 10 seconds.
True Thrust -> Vorpal Thrust -> Full Thrust -> Fang and Claw: Extends "Blood of the Dragon" by 10 seconds.
Wheeling Thrust / Fang and Claw -> Fang and Claw / Wheeling Thrust: Grants Raiden Thrust Ready
Raiden Thrust Ready: Replaces True Thrust.
Jump -> Mirage Dive: Strengthen the Gaze of "Dragon Gauge".
Geirskogul: Changes Blood of the Dragon to Life of the Dragon.
Life of the Dragon: Enables use of Stardiver and changes Geirskogul to Nastrond.

[little swift]

you've got it

[obsidian patio]

once you get the level 78 trait BotD and Life of the Dragon start at 30 seconds instead of 20

[little swift]

you can nastrond 3 times in life

[tidal yarrow]

what should I think when I get 0 comms

[little swift]

with that trait

[obsidian patio]

this also lets you spam BotD outside of combat to keep your eyes

[little swift]

notihing tbh @tidal yarrow

[tidal yarrow]

it makes me sad

[obsidian patio]

Commendations aren't enforced to be given out, so some people simply don't hand them out

[leaden ginkgo]

@tidal yarrow You suck, just kidding, nothing really. If you are looking for comms always talk mechanics before a fight

[green grail]

you have like 33% chance of getting a comm, and then like 75% of people can't be bothered to vote

[obsidian patio]

or they just default to the tank/healer since they're higher up on the list

[leaden ginkgo]

I always comm people who talk mechanics before a fight, we all beneift

[tidal yarrow]

I usually comm the cutest looking one

[leaden ginkgo]

no

[grim adder]

When does SCH get more interesting abilities 😔 I can only ruin spam for so long

[obsidian patio]

what level are you currently?

[grim adder]

I’m only level 34 it’s my last support class im getting to 70

[obsidian patio]

45 unlock's SCH's version of the aetherflow system, which gives them 3 charges of it every minute that they can use for healing/mitigation or for damage if those aren't needed.

SCH really starts coming together past 50 since they get a lot of tools to cover old weakspots like lack of pure aoe healing

!action indomitability

[zinc orbit]

**Indomitability** : lvl 52 SCH (30.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.
Cure Potency: 400 Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10 Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1

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[leaden ginkgo]

Which patch do I unlock Ishgard Restoration?

[obsidian patio]

!action emergency tactics

[zinc orbit]

**Emergency Tactics** : lvl 58 SCH (15.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Transforms the next Galvanize and Catalyze statuses into HP recovery equaling the amount of damage reduction intended for the barrier.
Duration: 15s

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[obsidian patio]

patch 3.3 MSQ

[leaden ginkgo]

Aight thanks

[olive cedar]

hi there is a link to see wich materia is better for any class?

[junior tundra]

stormblood ||just did doma castle is gosetsu actually dead or does he come back later||

[obsidian patio]

!faq balance

[zinc orbit]

The Balance

Info

Discord

[obsidian patio]

@olive cedar

join this discord and look at the suggested melding priorities for the jobs you want to know about

but in most cases it's crit first and then det or DH second and then the other one third

[olive cedar]

yes my main is smn should be dh and crit wish to know others maybe i put some materia on that 5 slot weapon even i use rarely

im waiting a fate that doesnt show wish to know if there is some way to know how or when spam i did 3 dungeons meanwhile and no spammed

[obsidian patio]

SMN's melding priority from the balance discord

[tidal yarrow]

what is Aurum vale?

[obsidian patio]

level 47 dungeon

[sleek thistle]

so I started playing ffxiv left off before stormblood dropped.. When taking a lvl 60 to 80 should i do a dps job first to run my main quest since ques are slow for them?

[obsidian patio]

infamous for having a first room that can go badly if pulled wrong

[tidal yarrow]

is it the one with dragons and ice

[obsidian patio]

it's the one with acid pools everywhere

and morbols

[tidal yarrow]

oh wait I don't have it

[obsidian patio]

@sleek thistle if you want to, sure.

[tidal yarrow]

and I'm lvl 60

[obsidian patio]

unlock quest for it should be in Vesper Bay

[grim adder]

If I swap from female to male would I be able to switch the songbird outfit with the seneschal one ?

[sleek thistle]

kk thanks

[obsidian patio]

unfortunately no, but you could try double-checking the Recompense Officers found near the calamity salvagers and see if they have the other gender version

[unreal aspen]

question

how worth is the fc airship

like whats the return

once u actually have it and start sending it out

[obsidian patio]

depends on your servers market

[tidal yarrow]

the buff that give with standard step it's always a damage buff or it can change?

[obsidian patio]

always damage

[forest laurel]

always dmg buff

[tidal yarrow]

then I'm messing something..

[obsidian patio]

you'll probably see better returns out of submarines at this point since most of the Airship-exclusive stuff is pretty low-priced.

[unreal aspen]

ah

[tidal yarrow]

the dungeon before I was using standard step combo and sometimes the dude I was locked into didn't have damage buff

[unreal aspen]

i suddenly regret

all the mats i just gathered LMAO

[hazy flint]

So how does one get sky lander materials then?

[forest laurel]

were they dance partnered

[obsidian patio]

submarines use the same recipe materials for the most part

so it's not a complete waste

and did you make sure to do both steps of the dance correctly?

[sleek spoke]

what is potency?

and are traits just passives basically?

[obsidian patio]

basically a damage multiplier used to easily compare the power level of actions to each other

and yes

!action heavy shot

[zinc orbit]

**Heavy Shot** : lvl 1 ARC BRD (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 180. Additional Effect: 20% chance of becoming Straight Shot Ready
Duration: 10s

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[obsidian patio]

!action burst shot

[zinc orbit]

**Burst Shot** : lvl 76 BRD (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 230.
Additional Effect: 35% chance of becoming Straight Shot Ready
Duration: 10s

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[sleek spoke]

so potency is just damage..?

[obsidian patio]

yes

also healing for healing spells

!action cure

[zinc orbit]

**Cure** : lvl 2 CNJ WHM (400 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(1.5 second base cast time)

Restores target's HP.
Cure Potency: 450 Additional Effect: 15% chance next Cure II will cost no MP
Duration: 15s

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[sleek spoke]

nice ty

so whats unaspected damage then

[obsidian patio]

basically magical damage

[sleek spoke]

so as an arcanist thats my damage?

[obsidian patio]

yep

elements don't matter in this game, a fire spell on a fire sprite does the same damage as it would on an ice sprite

[sleek spoke]

ahh ok

[deep herald]

any experienced white mages here

[obsidian patio]

o/

they're only somewhat relevant for Thaumaturge/Black Mage which have their rotation based on swapping between fire and ice stance to quickly regen MP and do high damage

[deep herald]

whats it like

[sleek spoke]

what are roles

[obsidian patio]

Tank, Healer, Physical Melee DPS, Physical Ranged DPS, Magical/Caster DPS

so Arcanist is a Caster DPS

[little swift]

just the kind of class your class is

[sleek spoke]

noo i mean

[little swift]

white mage is the simplest of the three healers

[sleek spoke]

roles in the game

[deep herald]

so an arcanist is a dps mage

[sleek spoke]

it shows abilities

wtf i picked arcanist to be a healer thoo

do i have to make a new char lol

[little swift]

oh you mean role actions?

[sleek spoke]

yeahh

[obsidian patio]

arcanist eventually becomes healer when you upgrade to scholar

[sleek spoke]

ah ok lovely

[little swift]

those are role specific abilities that other jobs of your role also have

for example all casters/healers get lucid dreaming

an ability that helps them regenerate mana

[sleek spoke]

is there also stam and mana in this game or just mana

[steep heron]

Mana

[sleek spoke]

also why cant i assign certain low lvl abilities to my hotbar

[obsidian patio]

@deep herald WHM has powerful GCD heals, the best Mana Efficiency of the 3 healers, and do the most personal damage of the healers

[steep heron]

No stam. There used to be but that was removed.

[little swift]

whm is simple fun, not too complex, but packs a punch

[deep herald]

gcd?

[steep heron]

Which abilities are you trying to put on your bar?

[deep herald]

prrsonal damage?

[steep heron]

GlobalCoolDown.

[obsidian patio]

personal damage = damage that you directly put out

[steep heron]

Personal damage is what they direct contribute.
Compared to Astro which has a stronger focus on buffing allies.

[deep herald]

oh oki

are theyre latency issues if you use max graphics setting even if your computer can handle max graphics settings

[steep heron]

Graphics shouldnt affect Latency.

[deep herald]

input lag

[obsidian patio]

still shouldn't

[deep herald]

ok

[obsidian patio]

you might get a slightly lower frame rate

but that shouldn't impact how you play unless it gets severe

[deep herald]

as expected tho

is the benchmark un realistic when it comes to real world performance

[steep heron]

IMO it does a pretty decent job

[deep herald]

ok

is there an in game fps counter

or do i have to use the geforce overlay one

[sleek spoke]

whats carnacable

and whats a Stance

[little swift]

in game fps is in the system config

top right corner of that window

a carbuncle is one of your summoners

basically a pet

[sleek spoke]

ah i see

[deep herald]

i dont think i want a pet with me

[sleek spoke]

whats a stance tho?? when i click it my char just holds a book

[deep herald]

i joined the novice network on goblin

they were really friendly it felt so odd to meet people like that in game

most multiplayer games your only interactions are commands to do certain things to win the game

[steep heron]

Oh that just takes your weapon. Dont need to do it.

[deep herald]

like push the payload

[steep heron]

takes out*

[deep herald]

any tips for talking to people in game im nervous

[steep heron]

Take everything from Novice Network with a grain of salt.
The Mentor system...could use some work.

Nothing wrong with being friendly. imo Goblin is one of the friendlier servers.

[little swift]

thats battle stance

it just lets you unsheath/sheath your weapon

aka take out a book

or put it back

[deep herald]

my character is so cute

and i didnt know female miqo'tes were so short

[zinc orbit]

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[sleek spoke]

so my weapon as an arcanist is a book or

[forest laurel]

yes

[steep heron]

Grimoire(Book of hurty spells)

[obsidian patio]

Grimoires are basically weaponized geometry+math.

[leaden ginkgo]

Grimoire is a book of spells

Witches write down their spells

Or arcanists in this situation

[sleek spoke]

coool

when i press w to move it just types into the game chat, how do i exit that?

[leaden ginkgo]

Has there been anything from SE regarding the housing in Ishgard?

[sleek spoke]

i cant move now

[steep heron]

press escape

[leaden ginkgo]

Clear the chat and click enter

Or click escape

Or just left click away

[steep heron]

You are focused intot he chat box.

[sleek spoke]

i cleared the chat and clicked enter

but doesnt work

esc also doesnt work

clicking also doesnt work lol

[leaden ginkgo]

Are you alt tabbing?

[sleek spoke]

what

[leaden ginkgo]

Nothing

[green grail]

you probably have smart chat or whatever set up and you're in controller mode

[sleek spoke]

lol

no im in mouse mode

and whats smart chat

yall speaking a whole diff language

[leaden ginkgo]

Alt tabbing is using Alt + Tab to switch between windows

Try it

[green grail]

that setting where you're in gamepad mode so the game assumes any keyboard input to be meant for chat

[leaden ginkgo]

Not a Final Fantasy term

[green grail]

dunno whats it called

[steep heron]

xiv has a setting that instantly puts all keyboard input into chat.
Its meant for controller users.
You can turn this off.

[leaden ginkgo]

Yeah I have that too when I do controller

[sleek spoke]

okay ill look at the settings then

[steep heron]

I dont think you have it on tho bc its not something thats easy to accidentally turn on

[leaden ginkgo]

Do you have a controller plugged in?

[sleek spoke]

no, and i disabled gamepad mode idk why it was on

but it still keeps on typing

ugh

[leaden ginkgo]

Just restart the game

Did SE confirm anything about personal housing in Ishgard

[sleek spoke]

will do

[leaden ginkgo]

And is FC housing a 100% thing?

(In Ishgard)

[green grail]

no and no

[steep heron]

We just dont know.

[leaden ginkgo]

Ok and what do you guys think?

[pulsar wren]

can anyone send me a pic of SMN hotbar, im at lvl 50 and I just cant seem to remember anything and trying to make it usefull

[jaunty crescent]

whats the dmg potency of limit break 1/2/3 for ranged damage vs melee damage

[pulsar wren]

PC btw

[forest laurel]

2400/5250/9000 melee
1650/3600/6150 ranged

[obsidian patio]

caster lb has the same potencies as ranged

[mossy tartan]

Ran into lots of players who say they prefer savage e7 instead of normal mode for it, what’s the major difference?

[vivid wolf]

How does housing work? Everything seems occupied

[steep heron]

Savage is more fun than normal. Its a subjective thing.

[mossy tartan]

aww, thought it would be easier, got my hopes up for trying it : D

[forest laurel]

savages are never easier than normal raids

[steep heron]

Savage is technically never easier. It feels easier because people with big brains come up with ways to simplify it to braindead levels of ease.

[agile laurel]

@vivid wolf Probably is. Finite supply. In theory you'd have to wait for one to become available, but the inactivity clearout is paused due to corona

is there an uhm

!faq housing

[zinc orbit]

Housing Info (Official) 🏠

Info

1. Additional Plots and Purchasing Guide
2. Land Pricing
3. Purchasing Land and Building Estates

[agile laurel]

oh wow there we go

[warped nest]

Saying savage is easy because it has been solved is exactly like how doing math with formula is easy because the smart people have made the formula to make process easier

[tidal yarrow]

how to disable my emotes showing in log chat ?

[obsidian wren]

There's a toggle in the emote menu

At the bottom

[jaunty crescent]

best guide for anima heavensward weapons that is up to date?

[green grail]

it hasn't changed since stormblood released like 3 years ago so most guides since then should be fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TOJF5lzczs

[tidal yarrow]

is it possible to buff teammates on dungeons where I don't have closed position?

[forest laurel]

no

[tidal yarrow]

so standard step buffs only me

damn..

[forest laurel]

well technically you CAN buff before closed position, but it's only shield samba.

[agile laurel]

mind you in lower level dungeons, standard step hits like a train so that's enough of a team buff in itself i feel

[forest laurel]

yeah p much

[tidal yarrow]

you mean it does a lot of dmg?

[forest laurel]

1000 potency is nothing to scoff at

[agile laurel]

yup

[tidal yarrow]

it's only the standard step that closes the dance that deals dmg right?

[agile laurel]

and considering the only other 1k potency move is hissatsu senei, dancer does stupid levels of damage lower level

yes.

[lament thorn]

good morning. I just hit level 80 and am almost done with the 5.2 MSQ. Is there anywhere I can find a BiS list for Samurai (similar to tier sets in WoW) so I know what to work for? Google has been somewhat unhelpful.

[agile laurel]

sec.

[green grail]

!faq sambis

[zinc orbit]

**Samurai Best-In-Slot**

Info

http://bit.ly/SAM-BIS

[agile laurel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RPFyGutCbaARPIaJ5BM5-cTETedDMagnLiYkdfU0a04/edit#gid=792573206 ripped from bala-

[lament thorn]

Bot on point. Thanks!

[agile laurel]

oh

[lament thorn]

Thanks @agile laurel too!

[agile laurel]

[tidal yarrow]

sometimes when I do my standard step it changes the abilites that get highlighted.. does it matter at all?

[agile laurel]

yes

if you look at the job gauge, you see the step you're meant to use

the fact it also highlights it on your bars is just extra qol

it's a randomised call-response every time

wait, does it matter? no

you just need to do the correct steps to get full output

what steps they happen to be is meaningless

[faint flare]

Standard/technical step is basically a game of Simon Says

Do the correct steps in order for the full damage

[gritty oracle]

Yep, incorrect steps don't count
Like a dance, really

[silver ruin]

whats the bot command for daily reset again

[open coral]

!reset

[zinc orbit]

Tick, Tock, Kupo!

Daily Reset

0 Days, 2 Hours, 33 Minutes, 8 Seconds

Grand Company Reset

0 Days, 7 Hours, 33 Minutes, 8 Seconds

Weekly Reset

6 Days, 19 Hours, 33 Minutes, 8 Seconds

Fashion Report Turn In Avaliable

2 Days, 19 Hours, 33 Minutes, 8 Seconds

Jumbo Cactpo NA

4 Days, 13 Hours, 33 Minutes, 8 Seconds

Jumbo Cactpo EU

4 Days, 6 Hours, 33 Minutes, 8 Seconds

Jumbo Cactpo JP

3 Days, 23 Hours, 33 Minutes, 8 Seconds

[silver ruin]

thanks

[lavish vortex]

hi!, whats the easiest DPS job to play in raids? in this case by easy i mean the one that loses the less by moving, interrupting or follow mechanics, and still does a good amount of DPS to contribute and pass DPS checks

[median locust]

Dancer most likely

[open coral]

DNC is probably the easiest.

[lavish vortex]

im playing dancer right now, but feels a little low on DPS output

[open coral]

As for "still does a good amount of damage"...

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

Meta Jobs FAQ

Info

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

Click here for the best jobs in the game though

[median locust]

You can DPS while moving at will and have 3 dashes for when you realise you're standing in the wrong spot

And yeah, DNC will not carry a group who's doing garbage DPS but it still does a good amount, especially if you're good at it

[obtuse mortar]

say, I'd like to spam dungeons and I'm looking for players, which chann shoud I post in ?

[lavish vortex]

good, thanks!, ill keep usign DNC then!

[warped nest]

Party finder in-game

Write down that you want to do (dungeon name) 5 times

Or something

[obtuse mortar]

is there people actually looking in party finder ? I alwats thought pugs are easier found on discord servers

[open coral]

Basically, the three prdps jobs (DNC, BRD, MCH) lose the least from a moving to do mechanics standpoint, and of the three, DNC has the simplest rotation. BRD and MCH both have more things to keep track of. Any other dps - melee or caster rdps - will suffer when extreme movement is required from an uptime perspective.

[lavish vortex]

@open coral thanks!, DNC it is then

[vagrant copper]

If you want to try your hand at recruiting on discord, you're looking for #recruitment-light @obtuse mortar

[median locust]

Unless you know what you're doing but of course, if you're a physical ranged DPS, you get to skip that step so it's definitely easier

[pearl wharf]

so 3 demimateria of the vortex dropped from garuda extreme
but the gamerscape doesnt say it drops from it

and that i have to desynth it instead

[warped nest]

@obtuse mortar on our left, above #reddit-recruitment-feed there should be a recruitment-light for you

Look there

[obtuse mortar]

thank you!

[pearl wharf]

do people not update the gamerscape page?

[open coral]

People still use gamerscape?

[median locust]

Don't think I've ever had demimateria drop directly from it, are you sure?

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[median locust]

Gamerescape is probably the most up to date Wiki for the game so a lot of people use it

Besides Garlandtools but Gamerescape is easier to use

[pulsar wren]

best fate grind at lvl 50 while waiting for queue?

[median locust]

Garlandtools doesn't say Garuda drops Demimateria either

[pearl wharf]

no wait

i did get it from desynth

guess im a big dum dum

[lament thorn]

Palace of the Dead has no effect on outside level right?

[vagrant copper]

You do get outside XP for every 10 levels you clear. Other than that, no

[lament thorn]

Is that Xp significant

[vagrant copper]

Significant enough that POTD is usually one of the better ways to level DPS classes due to long DF queues

[twilit arch]

its decent xp for 1-60

[lament thorn]

so for my second job, its worth

[twilit arch]

yeah

if your dungeon queues aren't that great

[pulsar wren]

when i want to put meditation on my hotbar, it changes to forbidden chakra. Why?

[desert ravine]

when crafting inside the fc house, does it automatically use the company chest materials? or the one in my inventory?

[twilit arch]

only materials in your inventory

[vagrant copper]

@pulsar wren Do you have fifth chakra active?

[pulsar wren]

eh yes lol

i understand now

thx for the clarification

[lament thorn]

For palace of the dead, I should get to floor 50-60 and just keep repeating it right? no need to go back and do 1-50 each time right?

[median locust]

Nope, you can start at 51-60 everytime

[lament thorn]

Cool beans

[median locust]

that's the way to farm exp from it

Run 51-60, delete save, start a new run, select 51-60, repeat

[left moth]

if are capped you'll get tomes but i wouldn't recommend potd/hoh for tomes over hunt train

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[agile laurel]

Is smn slipstream functionally identical to doton?

[faint flare]

Yes

[twilit arch]

yes, ground aoe thats put under a target

[pulsar wren]

h

[agile laurel]

riight. so no point in refreshing it early unless overcap?

[faint flare]

No point in early refresh

[twilit arch]

ya

[faint flare]

Let it do its thing

[twilit arch]

generally by the time you need to refresh it, your cd for agi assault is about to be up

its only 9s

[faint flare]

There's no real poetic gear after 70

Scaevan is the last set of poetics gear

Which falls off at 73 or 75 if augmented

After thst you're using dungeon gear and gear given via story

[spice shell]

i finally got to 50 with my WHM and could use all my 50 poetic gear + weapon. first time leveling healer. my ilvl jumped from like 25 to 110. havent actually tried a run but can I expect ~level 50 dungeons to go smoother?

[idle mauve]

How does targeting work in this game? Everyone just targets whatever?

[agile laurel]

either highest priority target, or the central target in the pack

in order to land aoe/line-based abilities better

[median locust]

lv50 dungeons will definitely be easier with ironworks

[idle mauve]

How do we know what the highest priority target is?

[median locust]

depends on your tanks though

[agile laurel]

or highest health/most likely to survive dots

idk, experience? if you don't know, just target highest health cause it's easier to cleave off of

[idle mauve]

I'm used to EQ2....implied targeting through the tank.

[agile laurel]

i.e. smn bane, brd shadowbite, etc etc

what's your job atm?

[idle mauve]

@agile laurel sorry newb. No idea what those things are. Mage'

[agile laurel]

black mage, I assume?

[idle mauve]

aye

[agile laurel]

in which case central target of the pack will be best, cause then you can better hit every mob with flares

[spice shell]

i feel like it makes more sense to attack whatever everyone else is attacking. better to take enemies out quick

[agile laurel]

or fire IIs or whatever your level is

[stiff ledge]

Anybody here wanna farm titania ex with me for mount? Ive got a party finder setup and my username is cornelius cornwall :)

[spice shell]

then to leave everything out a little longer by doing it separately

[idle mauve]

Yeah, the whole focused fire concept seems to be missing from this game.

[agile laurel]

generally cause dungeon trash mobs rarely differ greatly in terms of threat level

[median locust]

There's barely ever any adds you should focus on before every other, so just make sure your AoE hits everything

[agile laurel]

yep

since it's awkward to determine flare/foul/thunder 2/4's range, just go for the target in the centre and stick on it

[idle mauve]

That's going to take a while to get used to. Attacking the wrong target used to get you kicked from groups.

[simple shore]

When was that, exactly? I feel like "AoE everything in sight" has been the rule since 2.0

[agile laurel]

black mage's group utility is its dps output. figure out how best to aoe everything and then kinda turn off the brain

[idle mauve]

@simple shore it was ten years of playing EQ2, not here

[simple shore]

Oh, lol

[idle mauve]

But the instincts are deep.

[agile laurel]

it was a trip coming from WoW as well. Answer: think less

the dungeons simply aren't the difficult content

[median locust]

your job is to make sure everything dies before the healer runs out of mana/cooldowns and the tank runs out of cooldowns

[spice shell]

i dunno how high end stuff works really, but generally speaking if your group is wiping because you are damaging the wrong thing with random mobs (not mechanic specific stuff) then something else is going on

[simple shore]

Yeah as long as you're AoE'ing as hard as you can AND NOT STANDING IN THE BAD then you're doing your job.

[median locust]

Leaving one add up over another 99% of the time won't make a difference

unless you're in an extreme trial/raid

[agile laurel]

i can only think of a couple of cases in dungeons where trash mobs have tankbuster abilities, and even then unless your tank is woefully undergeared nobody's gonna notice

[simple shore]

Solution - kill them all before they get out of holy stunlock.

lol

[agile laurel]

probably the only black mage thing to bear in mind is your enmity generation

[idle mauve]

enmity?

[spice shell]

aggro

[open coral]

Hate, aggro

[agile laurel]

threat/aggro/whatever

[simple shore]

Bah, threat barely even exists anymore.

[median locust]

As long as the tank uses aoe you'll never take aggro though

[idle mauve]

is there some way to tell how much enmity I have?

[agile laurel]

if you go straight for freeze swiftcast flare on trash packs immediately as the tank pulls them, you're probably gonna have a fun time

[simple shore]

Yeah but realistically you dont need to care

[agile laurel]

just don't go obviously over the top in the first 2 seconds of an engagement, and you're fine

[simple shore]

The only way you're pulling threat is if the tank is just a total shitter. Its not worth worrying about.

[spice shell]

the party list/enemy list has a few ways. the A and numbers next to your names indicates your priority (A means enemies hate you most), green and red boxes next to the enemies indicates who wants you dead (red = you have the aggro)

[open coral]

@idle mauve In the default party frames, there's a number and a little bar next to each player's name that indicates where they are on the threat list for your currently targeted mob.

[median locust]

As long as you're not using AoE the moment the mobs spawn and let the tank hit them once anyway

[agile laurel]

i can only think of a couple of times I've thought Foul for the start of a trash pull (to not overcap) was a good idea, heard all the little dings of the mobs coming for me, and then ralph.png

[median locust]

Meh, even then the tank takes them back with no problem

[twilit arch]

the enemy list also indicates your enmity on any mobs you've tagged

[brave loom]

Hey everyone! Who can tell me what materia should i put on my summoner lv80? I suppose crit everywhere i can and when i can't, direct hit or determination? I can't find anything recent on google about it lol

[agile laurel]

!faq smnguide

[zinc orbit]

5.10 SMN: Endgame Beginner's Guide

Info

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LFafEbitZlqem27qI4dPM0bVf3VHcPMsgJJXHHtnLQE/edit?usp=sharing

[agile laurel]

should be in there

[twilit arch]

Substat/Meld Priority:
Crit > DH >= Det > SpS

[median locust]

Balance Discord has these kinda things usually

[agile laurel]

actually that guide is not one of the better ones for this, is it

but yeah, check balance

[simple shore]

Hmm

Just as a note

for whatever reason, that guide does not actually mention stat priority.

[twilit arch]

well, its ok because i already linked the stat/meld priority

[agile laurel]

yeah most of the bot link guides do

guess that one just doesn't

[simple shore]

Yeah, just noting it for the future

[median locust]

also a 5.1 guide, probably better to check akhmorning for SMN
http://www.akhmorning.com/jobs/smn/guide/intro/

[twilit arch]

5.2 didn't bring any real changes to smn

so it being a 5.1 guide isn't an issue

seeing as its also still linked in the smn resource channel on the balance, and its an easier to digest format than the website

[simple shore]

Okay, my turn to ask a question for a change. Is https://ffxivchocobo.com/en/ broken? It's failed to get to the right color three times now.

[lavish vortex]

si, i wanna try SAM, i already did the quest but apparently i sold the lvl 50 sword.. what should i get/buy to regear the entire SAM lvl 50 Character?

[twilit arch]

no

[faint flare]

Choxo colour is still rng

[twilit arch]

just because you didnt get the right colour is not an issue with the calculator

you're still subjected to RNG

[simple shore]

Ugh. I dont recall it being that hard in the past.

[faint flare]

@lavish vortex buy the poetic weapon if you got the poetic

[twilit arch]

if you're close to the colour you want

don't feed as many as suggested by the calculator

feed until you get the colour change message

[lavish vortex]

i dont have poetics 😦 i mean i can farm them, but if theres another option, better@faint flare

[faint flare]

Calamity salvager might sell it

[lavish vortex]

ill be replacing it soon so

[faint flare]

Or market board

[lavish vortex]

ill check market board

thanks

[twilit arch]

elbert in ishgard sells it

[lavish vortex]

Foundation?

[twilit arch]

Foundation is the main aetheryte for ishgard

he's specifically in the jeweled crozier, in the pillars

[lavish vortex]

thanks!!!

[pine bluff]

hey guys I'm in stormblood and just arrived in Kugane, is this part of Doma?

what exactly is Doma, it's a city, country or continent?

[faint flare]

Its on the same half of the world as Doma

[pine bluff]

ah right

[faint flare]

Its more of a city iirc, its located over by Yanxia

[pine bluff]

I guess cities are countries in this universe

[twilit arch]

city states

is what they all are

like how gridania is the city state of the black shroud, ul'dah for thanalan, etc

[pine bluff]

hmm yeah

I always thought of thanalan etc as 'regions'

[twilit arch]

yes, they are

[pine bluff]

I suppose the concept of countries are just nonexistent in eorzea

[twilit arch]

the black shroud is the region in which gridania exists

[ornate vortex]

if someone quits the dg, is there a way to inv another person to that same dg?

[faint flare]

The party leader says Yes to a pop up

To recruit people

[median locust]

Not someone specific, but the party leader can make it so you're looking for someone else

[faint flare]

Then duty finder pulls someone who's queing with Join in progress

[ornate vortex]

ah nvm then, thx for the info

[frozen karma]

what are all the different ways to get gc seals?

[midnight slate]

Roulettes

Guildhests

Fates iirc

[median locust]

Turning in gear to your GC through Expert Delivery

GC Leves (but I would not recommend it)

Expert Delivery is the main way most people make seals afaik

[leaden ginkgo]

whats stat priority for BLM?

[median locust]

SpS to comfort > Crit/DH > Det

[marble drift]

I love how FFXIV classes are "get comfy :3"

[leaden ginkgo]

ty

[median locust]

High SpS BLM is extremely comfy

[marble drift]

I kinda wanna level black mage to experiance that super high SPS build. I don't even LIKE casters

[slate arrow]

zoom

[rare karma]

What does that screenshot come from is there information on all jobs?

[obsidian wren]

!faq balance

[zinc orbit]

The Balance

Info

Discord

[faint flare]

That place

[obsidian wren]

from their discord

[rare karma]

Oh ok thx

[median locust]

They have channels with info and guides on every job

[faint flare]

Get the roles for the jobs you want

[median locust]

Don't need roles to see the resource channels anymore iirc

[normal tusk]

I forget what's the command again for for copy and pasting the cross Hotbar again

[faint flare]

/Chotbar copy

[twilit arch]

/hotbar copy class # current/class #

oh

cross hotbar

whoops

[normal tusk]

thanks

[gritty oracle]

What content does "A Thousand and One Farewells" quest unlock? It's in Mor Dhona and I'm assuming it's SB content.

[twilit arch]

doman reconstruction

[gritty oracle]

oh

is there a guide of sorts where it lists what items can I obtain from doing it?

[twilit arch]

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Junkmonger_(Doman_Enclave)

though not all items are unlocked immediately

[gloomy ice]

Mostly, the enclave is a means to sell items to a vendor with a higher than normal return that gets larger as your rank increases but it has a weekly limit.

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[past raptor]

is 1k determination too low for a ilvl 480 caster dps ?

[slate arrow]

nah

[oak ice]

There's not really any minimum stat floors, if you have mostly crit and DH, you will be lacking in det

[past raptor]

so you're saying i don't need to worry about keeping a certain balance and i should just fully invest in the stats im interested in

[faint flare]

No

[slate arrow]

I mean the balance has recommendations of what you should follow

[faint flare]

Focus on priorties

[past raptor]

i know theres a priority

[slate arrow]

You don't have to but if you like being optimal it's there

[past raptor]

but i mean there is no minimum threshold for the last priority stat

[slate arrow]

nah

[faint flare]

The only "wrong" amount of stat you can have is speed really but even then not really

[past raptor]

like don't go below x value

[raw solstice]

there's no minimum threshold, no. Outside of sks/sps for certain tiering for things

[median locust]

Unless the stat priority tells you to, no

[raw solstice]

in a very macro kind of sense you might actually want some det but it's a relatively minor thing

more on the min-maxing side of things, wont' really make much of a difference

[slate arrow]

What matters more is landing x amount of skills in specific windows

[median locust]

I know BLM wants at least 550 spell speed or something or else it can't do a good opener, but that's far from their last priority stat

[slate arrow]

like that crit doesn't matter if you only land 4 skills instead of 5

[raw solstice]

you can do a good opener at base sps on BLM

the recommendation is away from low sps for other reasons

but if you're really set on it you could

[gritty oracle]

When is the best time to queue for frontline?

[median locust]

Prime time for your datacenter probably

So like 8-10pm

[dry ocean]

Where do I unlock ruby?

Ive finished 5.2 already

[faint flare]

Ala mhigan quater in the lochs

[dry ocean]

And the other one

The one which drops legatus something

[faint flare]

Memoria misera is from the relic quest line

[dry ocean]

High legatus

Ex trials right?

[faint flare]

Memoria is only extreme

[dry ocean]

Ive done the quest. Trials doesnt appear in my trial duty

[faint flare]

Since its a retake of the final fight in the relic solo instant

Ruby Ex and Memoria are in High end duty

Since they're current

[dry ocean]

Oh thanks

Lmao

Was searching high and low

[faint flare]

Current Savage, ultimate and extremes are in High end duty

[dry ocean]

I use party finders for progs

Never did I get to see a memoria pf

[faint flare]

Memoria shows in the High end tab of PF, with the purple face

[dry ocean]

If yoy havent unlocked it yet it doesnt show in pf right?

[faint flare]

Correct

It shows as Locked Duty

[dry ocean]

I see why

Thankssss

[still scarab]

so im trying to get skybuilders yew logs

Skybuilders' Yew Log can be gathered by botanists through logging. It is harvested from a level 5 node in The Honey Yard in East Shroud.

i havent seen any

[faint flare]

Its gone

Forever

[still scarab]

how do i get them

[faint flare]

Ignore phase 1 receipes

[still scarab]

oh rip lol

[faint flare]

All mats for ishgard are in the diadem

[still scarab]

i had wrong tab selected

[faint flare]

Except the 1 normal mat it requires

[still scarab]

hopefully 48 crafts will be enough to get me to 40 carpenter

[white star]

Is there any place where I can look for a party to do an specific dungeon?

I've been waiting in queue for like 30mins now waiting to do Kugane Ohashi for the hildibrand quest

[faint flare]

Duty finder, party finder and recruitment channels

[white star]

Duty finder isnt doing it and the recuitment channel looks very convoluted.

[strange coral]

Party finder. Put "first time bonus" in description if it's your first time. People will join for the bonus

[slate arrow]

use party finder then

[void fossil]

How does the triple Triad Tournament work?

[strange coral]

And you'll be able to unsync it

[little swift]

The thing about that particular trial is that it's locked behind quite a bit of hildy

Not as many people have it unlocked

[mint briar]

Hey guys is there a Discord for hunt? I just transferred to Spriggan and need new hunt Ls to join

[leaden ginkgo]

confused on the this week part, i had like 45 in that section and i know about th reset but where does it go? do u have to spend or it just dissapears or is it attached to the red and white ones? (i dont remember if i got some more from other stuff? basically are they all connected? or did i actually cap somehow? eh too late to know form last week ig and doenst matter just very confused on this

[vagrant copper]

The 450 is just the limit on earning them.

Which resets weekly on Tuesdays

[slate arrow]

!weekly

[zinc orbit]

Tick, Tock, Kupo!

Time Until Weekly Reset:

6 Days, 15 Hours, 29 Minutes, 33 Seconds

[slate arrow]

you just missed the reset

basically that's just a cap on how much you can earn a week

If you don't cap before the weekly that's lost potential tomestones

[leaden ginkgo]

from both red and white?

i mean black n white

[slate arrow]

no

only allegory

[little swift]

Just the allegory

[slate arrow]

Phantasmagoria does not have a cap

[little swift]

Everything else you can go nuts on getting

[leaden ginkgo]

ty u three :3

[strange coral]

The Total already includes the ones you earned for the week already. So when you get 10 more allegory, you'll see 90/2000 and 10/450.

[leaden ginkgo]

that helpes a lot

s

o.o oh ok! ty 🙂 ari

[strange coral]

Both will increase. The x/450 isn't separate, just a tracker for info

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[gritty oracle]

Was Lakshmi popular enough in her time that there's a chance she'll get an unreal?

also where can I unlock sb ex trials?

[faint flare]

Eh she was thr easiest and dropped accessories

Exs are in kugane at the minsitralling wanderer at the markets

[gritty oracle]

ah, right

[crimson crystal]

So I just bought ffxiv for pc and it says 30 days will be added to my sub. Does this start right away or not until I log in? I kinda want to wait to play until 5.3 release

[faint flare]

It starts whenever you register the code

[slate arrow]

starts right away

[crimson crystal]

oof okay

[slate arrow]

Save it for 5.3

[crimson crystal]

alright I'll hold off for now

And is that sub "pc exclusive" ?

[slate arrow]

no

it's all across your Mogstation account

[crimson crystal]

okay nice

[slate arrow]

so if you have a PS4 or MAC code it applies to those as well

[crimson crystal]

thanks

[split flower]

Why can't I activate Dreadwyrm Trance when I'm in combat with this dummy? Do I need to do a job quest first?

[slate arrow]

yes

trance is the level 60 quest unlock

[split flower]

...Crap

Thanks

[slate arrow]

wait no

58

[split flower]

I was so looking forward to my Bahamut QQ

[slate arrow]

everything is behind your job quests

please don't skip them

[faint flare]

Cant even do bahamut without job quesys

[split flower]

Yeah uhhhhhhh I'm literally unable to do them yet

[faint flare]

Cause bahamut is quest locked

By the 70 one

[split flower]

My disappointment is immeasurable

[faint flare]

Meaning you need to be in stormblood story

[agile laurel]

the sad hours of being overleveled by msq

if it's any consolation, i know some folks who're nearly 80 in post-heavensward

at least it's probably not that bad

[split flower]

I'm lvl 70

And I'm not in even HW

[simple shore]

The trick is to level a few jobs simultaneously, especially if you have road to 70 going.

On my recent character, i hit 70 at about the same time on 4 different jobs, doing mostly just MSQ, and it lined up more or less with finishing the initial Stormblood questline

[agile laurel]

...ah

yeah, i'd say shelving smn and leveling something else would be beneficial

[solid fog]

Where do i start a new anima quest for my other jobs ?

[agile laurel]

possibly sam or rdm

[median locust]

Azys Lla

Then you select the first quest and start from there

[solid fog]

Well, i changed to a machinist , the first quest was"toughening up" but woudnt let me take it

"n order to undertake the quest “Toughening Up,” you must be equipped with animated Ferdinand."

[median locust]

Then that's not the first

[solid fog]

Its the first on the list

[median locust]

The first is "Soul Without Life"

It might not show up if you already have a quest with the same name picked up

[solid fog]

Yeah theres no option for mch, but when i change to nin , i have all quest lines but for mch it starts from "toughening up"

[median locust]

You can't pick up the same quest twice for 2 weapons

[solid fog]

Don't have quests on me right now

[simple shore]

I mean

the quest is literally telling you why you cant pick it up

"you must be equipped with animated Ferdinand."

You probably already did it up to that point?

[median locust]

The animated Ferdinand is a reward from the previous quest which they can't see

[solid fog]

Nope. I only completed the ninja relic

[median locust]

Can you screenshot the list of quests she gives you?

or maybe you just forgot you started the MCH relic already. I'd type "/isearch Ferdinand" and see if it gives any results

[solid fog]

weird because when i switch to Scholar, i can see the "soul without life" quest

[slate arrow]

You can't take more than one of each quest at a time

[simple shore]

Yeah i'd bet anything you did that quest.

[finite socket]

Hey im new to the game and started as arcanist and got to level 16, now i wanna be a lancer but i have to start over at level 1? so i cant do main story as lancer now?

[solid fog]

im 100% sure i dont have ferdinand

[faint flare]

Yes mighty

[slate arrow]

You'll have to abandon the scholar "soul without life" to get the MCH "soul without life" to get animated Ferdinand

[faint flare]

You can do stuff like Hunting logs, fates, side quests to level up

[median locust]

That's really the only possibility. That or you already have the quest. Open your quests list and see if you have it

It might be hidden

[simple shore]

Yeah you either already did it, or you already have Soul Without Life for another job. That's the only two options.

[solid fog]

I dont have the quest picked up, im just saying when i switch to scholar i can see the quest in the list, but on mch the quest doesnt appear on the list

[slate arrow]

[median locust]

Open and screenshot your quests list

pls

[slate arrow]

Did you finish your MCH HW job quests?

[finite socket]

@faint flare Is there enough quests in the game to get all classes to max level?

[solid fog]

Nope

[faint flare]

Yes

[slate arrow]

That explains it

[faint flare]

You dont even do side quests to really level

[slate arrow]

relic prereqs include job quests

[median locust]

do they?

[slate arrow]

yes

[median locust]

Consolegameswiki doesn't say they do

[simple shore]

Imagine not doing your job quests

lol

[faint flare]

Hunting logs, palace of the dead and dungeons level you up primarily

[median locust]

Only reaching lv60

[solid fog]

well 1 more level to 60 then

[median locust]

wtf

[simple shore]

....you're not 60 yet?

[median locust]

you need lv60 to do the lv60 relic

[little swift]

Well there's the problem

[simple shore]

that's kind of....an important point

[median locust]

that should be obvious...

[simple shore]

lol

[finite socket]

@faint flare Alright so i was told to get conjurer to 6 to unlock a spell called protect, so the way it works is i can go back to lancer after that, and use protect as lancer?

[faint flare]

No

[median locust]

[faint flare]

Outdated info

[simple shore]

The game hasnt worked like that for a long time.

Whatever your source is, stop using it

[faint flare]

Ignore anything you read thats older than a year

[little swift]

Cross class skills havent been a thing for a really long time

[faint flare]

Plus protect isnt even in the game

Anymore

[finite socket]

@faint flare Oh okay so i guess its abit different to find info now then, so i cant cross classes with different abilities?

[faint flare]

No

Its all cross role now

[simple shore]

I find it funny that alot of those removed abilities still get used by NPC's during class/job quests, and these days people probably have no idea what they are and why they're using them

[faint flare]

All jobs within that role share skills

[open coral]

Ah Protect. Nobody ever waited for it to be cast, but it was a wonderful spell. You could never use it as LNC though. It only crossed with healers and PLD (because CNJ was one of their sub classes).

[finite socket]

@faint flare Aaah okay and when do i unlock a role?

[faint flare]

You have it

Its the role of youe job

[open coral]

Your role is based on your class - tank, damage, or healer.

[faint flare]

Physical melee

Physical ranged

Casters

Healers

Tanks

[finite socket]

Ah okay so like, i got to level 16 with arcanist but wanna try lancer now right, but since im level 1 that basicaly means i have to start over until level 16 lancer for main quest?

[faint flare]

Yes

[open coral]

Correct

Or continue the MSQ with Arcanist

[faint flare]

Nothing affects other jobs

[finite socket]

That's kinda tough damn

[clear delta]

Question about crafting gear, is facet gear the current best possible?

[faint flare]

Yes

[open coral]

You get an xp bonus while leveling jobs under the level of your highest level job.

[faint flare]

You do get armoury exp which gives you an xp buff for jobs under your highest level

[little swift]

Melded facet is the best possible for crafters

[open coral]

So you'll have a 100% xp bonus until level 16 while you're leveling LNC

[faint flare]

Hunting logs take you easily to lv15

[clear delta]

Okay, and my understanding is that overmelding is the only way to get it better than qhite scrip gear

[little swift]

Unmelded is less good

[finite socket]

What is hunting logs? can i do that now?

[little swift]

Than white scrip

[faint flare]

Logs > Hunting log

[open coral]

You can! Hunt logs are basically class-specific kill targets.

[faint flare]

Its a list of enemies to kill for big xp

[little swift]

You wont have those if you haven't done your first class's class quests

[faint flare]

Marked enemies have a icon on their head

[open coral]

The mobs in the log will appear with two concentric semicircles over their name.

[finite socket]

Oh so thats what those icons are for alright, so do that until 15 and then continue with the main quest aye?

Okay so lets say i wanted to do dungeons when possible, as a healer, i would need a healer role then aight? but how do i level with that, if its made for healing?

[open coral]

Until you reach the level of your current MSQ, yes.

[little swift]

You'll have to supplement that with fates

[finite socket]

Like arent theier offensive spells shit for solo leveling or

[faint flare]

All healers do damage

[open coral]

You would need to pick up a healing class - under level 30, your only option is Conjurer.

[faint flare]

Very very respectable damage

[open coral]

Healers are fantastic for solo leveling

[little swift]

Healers have to do damage normally anyways

[finite socket]

Alright so at level 30 i unlock new classes, that again needs to be leveled from 1?

[little swift]

Its not an optional feature

[faint flare]

All the base classes start at lv1

Expansion jobs start higher

Your jobs are continuations of classes

[open coral]

At level 30 the base "classes" evolve into "jobs". Expansion jobs don't have a base class.

So at level 30 ARC can become SCH (Scholar), which is a healer.

[faint flare]

Lancer evolves into a dragoon

And levels retained

[finite socket]

Alright so are theier cetain jobs that i cant pick if im level 30 arcanist for example?

[faint flare]

No

Nothing locks you out

[open coral]

You can be everything

[faint flare]

Of other classes

[open coral]

All at once

If that's what you really want

[faint flare]

Classes go into specific jobs

[finite socket]

So in theory there is no reason to make other characters ever?

[faint flare]

Yes

[open coral]

Yep

[static yacht]

when did they estimate 5.3 to come out again?

end of july?

or they said something about 5.3

[faint flare]

Probably

[static yacht]

it was like a video or something?

[little swift]

No confirmed date

[vagrant copper]

Release date is being announced during the next live letter

[median locust]

End of July/early August probably. There's gonna be a producer's letter first week of July with the release date

[open coral]

Last I heard about 5.3 was in the LL last month, and then it was just "being delayed, at least a month"

[static yacht]

right producer's letter thanks!

[finite socket]

So lets say my goal right now is to get to dungeons and do dungeon alot as healer, i would need to pick conjurer now, get to 15, then continue the main story etc until 30 where i can pick a better healer role?

[open coral]

At level 30, CNJ will become WHM, which is basically CNJ, but with more spells.

CNJ = Conjurer, WHM = White Mage

[median locust]

Conjurer is a healer, there isn't a "better healer role"

all 3 healers heal

[simple shore]

I mean, you're not really following the idea of jobs i think. You dont "pick" a job, your class turns into it.

All Conjurers become White Mages

Arcanist is the only exception to this

[open coral]

ARC becomes both SCH and SMN

[median locust]

Conjurer is a lv29 and below White Mage

[open coral]

No other class branches that way

[finite socket]

Alright so you basicaly get a power spike at 30, got it..

[open coral]

Not so much a power spike as... an expansion on your existing abilities.

[median locust]

Yep, no reason to stay the previous class

[finite socket]

Alright so one character can do all roles, as long as you have classes leveled for it

[open coral]

Yep

[still scarab]

if i were to buy the items in this quest it would be 130k o.o

[median locust]

Yeah you level every job individually, but in the end you can play all jobs at max level just fine

and switch between them on a whim with no downside, outside of dungeons/raids

[finite socket]

Oh that's quite alot of options then

[open coral]

You can create gear sets specific to each job to facilitate swapping too.

[median locust]

Game really encourages players to try out multiple jobs

But you can play just one job fine if you only want to play one

[finite socket]

Okay so let's say a veteran player with multiple max level jobs wanted to level another job, how would they go about it ? Like leveling wise

[open coral]

Same way as anyone else

[faint flare]

!faq altlvlguide

[zinc orbit]

Leveling Guide for Alt jobs 🍻

Info

Level 1 to 70 in five days (Stormblood)

[faint flare]

That way

Same as others

[open coral]

All new jobs start from their base level, regardless of whether you have other jobs also leveled.

[simple shore]

However, that advice is not really applicable to you right now.

because it specifically leverages bonuses for already having higher level jobs

[gentle knoll]

does the Confession buff from Plenary Indulgence proc on each regen tick of Medica II or just the initial heal?

[open coral]

The only real difference is that a player with one or more jobs at max level will get the full benefit of the "armory bonus" for bonus experience.

Only the initial heal

[gentle knoll]

ok ty.

[still scarab]

i was joking to myself what is the next quest going to cost me like 100k

[median locust]

Your first job will mostly level by doing the Main Story Quests. It unlocks 99% of the game and gives good exp so that should be your priority (next to class quests)

[finite socket]

So the fact i want to be a conjurer now to be able to heal later on, will my level 16 arcanist help me in any way?

[faint flare]

No

[open coral]

Nope

[still scarab]

i was right.. 138k if i were to buy the stuff(im not)

[faint flare]

Again. Nothing affects other jobs

[finite socket]

So i cant switch to arcanist during a lancer quest to get it done faster?

[open coral]

Some of them you can for overworld parts

[faint flare]

Except the bonus xp buff you get for having jobs under your highest

Not unless it spawns things

With the black circle

[open coral]

But if there's any scenario or interaction point, you'll need to be in the appropriate job.

[faint flare]

You'll gey a error

Saying you need to be that job

[median locust]

Play Arcanist if you want to play Scholar or Summoner later. Play Conjurer if you want to play White Mage. There's no benefit to levelling multiple.

You can quest in the overworld as a healer no problem. Or as any class really.

[faint flare]

Arcanist goes into its Own healer as scholar

[simple shore]

Yeah, given the uh, nature of the questions you're asking

[faint flare]

And scholar and summoner share xp due to having arcanist as base

[simple shore]

its probably worth noting that healers do lots of DPS in this game

so you dont have to worry about being gimped by playing as one

[little swift]

Armoury bonus doesn't require you to have max level jobs

You guys need to specify that

[open coral]

Healers are expected to perform as dps secondary to their role as healer.

[faint flare]

I said highest

[little swift]

It just takes into account the difference between your highest level job and your current one

I know you did vinyl

[finite socket]

Okay so i could actually just continue as arcanist until 30 and then use the scholar job for healing dungeons ?

[open coral]

Yes

[faint flare]

Yes

[finite socket]

and level summoner at the same time?

[median locust]

Yeah, you'll just be DPS in dungeons until then

[faint flare]

I es

Yes

Arcanist gets to cheat

[simple shore]

Summoner and Scholar level simultaneously because of the weird "two jobs, one base class" thing.

[open coral]

Yes, SMN and SCH gain xp concurrently

[hazy flint]

Why is the sky steel grind so damn tedious lol I just got it and it’s like 340 HQ of one thing... I only get a 13% chance without abilities for that ahhhh

[median locust]

Scholar and Summoner share the base job Arcanist so they share the same exp bar. You level Scholar, you also level Summoner, vice versa

[simple shore]

Any exp you get on one goes to both

essentially

[faint flare]

You do need to do job quests for each respective job

For skills

And you'll need the gear

Since they have different gear

[finite socket]

Sounds like a great option for now since im still new and honestly just wanna continue from where i left off in the main quest hmm

[open coral]

But again, that shared xp only applies to SMN and SCH. Any other job you'll have to earn xp separately to level them.

Basically, your class choice is going to be about your playstyle preferences.

[finite socket]

I just found it very dull having 2 dot spells and a spam spell (ruin) to level with for like 2 days

[magic light]

nature's minne should go onto the healer, right?

[faint flare]

Thats every job

At the stst

No inane

It goes on whoever needs to be healed

Aka the tank

[simple shore]

Yeah, all classes/jobs are very simple and low buttons early on.

[open coral]

All jobs are pretty basic at lower levels, and more complex as you get to higher levels.

[median locust]

That's just every job at that level. None of them will be enganging until at least 40-50. As long as you like where the job is going, you should keep playing it tbh.

Even if it's boring at lv15

[open coral]

Healer jobs will tend to be a little more basic than a dps job from a dps rotation standpoint, but more complex from a healing standpoint.

[magic light]

the wording with the "or" part seems to have confused me.

[open coral]

!action Nature's Minne

[zinc orbit]

**Nature's Minne** : lvl 66 BRD (90.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases HP recovery via healing actions for a party member or self by 20%.
Duration: 15s

Powered by XIVAPI

[finite socket]

Alright it all makes sense, so i feel like going back to arcanist and just continuing with that is the best option now as it allows me to heal dungeons at level 30, and i can continue the quest and then later on i can benefit from this "armourer exp" you keep mentioning?

[open coral]

Basically it's saying "you can put this on yourself or any party member" @magic light

[faint flare]

Armoury xp applies on any job under your highest level job

Your highest level job doesn't get it

[little swift]

!faq armouryexp

[zinc orbit]

Armoury EXP bonus FAQ

Info

'How do I get the bonus experience from the Armoury?'

As long as you're playing a Disciple of War or a Disciple of Magic class that's a lower level than your highest level class then you're able to benefit from the bonus experience. You do not need to have a class at level 80 for the bonus to be active.

'How much is the bonus experience?'

You get +100% experience from levels 1 to 69, which then reduces to +50% for level 70 to 79. The difference in level between your current class and highest class does not change the amount of experience you get.

[magic light]

i thought it boosted the heals of a target as well, whoops

[open coral]

nope 😄

[faint flare]

Its to help catch alt jobs up

[little swift]

from the tooltip it could be used as a heal boost for tanks taking a bit amount of damage

[finite socket]

Yeah thats what i mean like, make arcanist/scholar/summoner my "main" job right now

And then later on i will level the others faster

but damn its alot of stuff to take in as a new player!

[open coral]

Just take it one thing at a time. You'll figure a lot of things out as you progress.

The game makes is very easy to learn.

[finite socket]

Its just overwhelming, i guess theres people with a character that is max level in all jobs then?

[open coral]

Yep