Did you equip it?
#questions-and-help
whole wasp
rough lance
what can i exchange for tomestone of phantasmagoria? other then eqs
whole wasp
Its the bottom right most slot below rings.
faint flare
Materials
twilit arch
crafting materials
faint flare
Now save your gear set
twilit arch
you'd have to check your marketboard to see which one is worth selling
or you can be lazy and just buy like 5/10 of each
rough lance
oh
twilit arch
and sell it
faint flare
So the soulstone automatically equips when you swap back to your job
rough lance
ok thanks
leaden ginkgo
So umm which one am i doing to get my grand company daily quest done? The training one or ranked one?
twilit arch
which grand company daily are you trying to do?
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
no i mean....what exactly is the daily you're trying to do?
leaden ginkgo
The grand company daily
faint flare
There's no daily mission for pvp unless its fronline roulette
twilit arch
because i don't know of any gc daily for pvp
Unless you're trying to unlock frontline roulette?
leaden ginkgo
!reset
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
faint flare
Grand company dailies are expert deliveries
leaden ginkgo
Before it goes away
faint flare
For crafters and gathering
twilit arch
grand company reset is regards to the supply and provisioning missions
faint flare
Where it asks you for items
twilit arch
has nothing to do with pvp
faint flare
You did your job quests
leaden ginkgo
Stillll
faint flare
Which are MANDATORY
leaden ginkgo
Ye ik
faint flare
So its not for no reason
leaden ginkgo
Now im hurnt out ima stand by a atherite lol
Burnt*
Do i get rested xp if my pc is turned off?
faint flare
If you're in a sanctuary yes
twilit arch
so long as you're in a sanctuary, yes
leaden ginkgo
Cool thx
twilit arch
its indicated by a crescent moon near the xp bar
west swallow
I recently finish quest called "A Journey to Remember"..I read that this quest is limited time
is there any list limited time quest that currently live right now?
leaden ginkgo
As allways
twilit arch
Thats the only limited thing atm
well, the moogle tomestone event
but that's not quests
west swallow
how and where I know that kind of quest will live in the future?
twilit arch
Also there's a notification whenever you log in that tells you of the current events running
faint flare
That to
twilit arch
* The Maiden’s Rhapsody collaboration event is underway until Jun. 22, 2020 7:59 a.m. (PDT). Details: https://sqex.to/sK5oN```oh ok, I like this kind of quest that reward nice armor for fashion hunter etc
cerulean pewter
So i again question 😄
If i wana teleport over cities i must do attonement right ?
open coral
Yes.
You must attune to the aetheryte in order to be able to teleport to it.
It's good practice to always make that the first thing you do upon reaching a new town.
little swift
You can always use the airship or chocobokeep
But attuning is the more convenient option
whole wasp
Yup
leaden ginkgo
yes, using the teleport action
trail bramble
i hired a new retainer through the mog station
how do you activate it
i'm at the retainer vocate and telling me i can't hire anymore
atomic elm
hi, i bought a mount from the job but cant find it at the post-mogry ingame
can some1 tell me where to find it after buy it ?
faint flare
Give it time to mail
trail bramble
ok
twilit arch
some mounts can take a bit to be delivered, you can try and speed it up by hitting the "reward/purchase delivery request" button @atomic elm
atomic elm
where is that button ?
faint flare
In the mail
polar cairn
crafted gear or white scripted gear, which is better for gatherers?
twilit arch
can do it later
leaden ginkgo
how do i get garo gear?
leaden ginkgo
oh, i dont know what garo is. i wanted a dyable version of some gloves i have but only the event ones are dyable i guess
leaden ginkgo
do the events tend to come back?
twilit arch
GARO is unlikely
faint flare
Garo will probably never come back
twilit arch
it ran for like 3-4 years
faint flare
It was around for like 3 years
twilit arch
and would likely require SE to license it so
white isle
How can I get road to 60 buff?
leaden ginkgo
i see, thank you
white isle
I'm in a preferred server
wintry chasm
If you made your character in a preferred server you just have it
also it's road to 70 now
twilit arch
did you create the character when the server was preferred or did the server become preferred after you created your character?
white isle
Ah so I can't travel there on my own?
I made it in gilgamesh
And traveled to adamantoise
wintry chasm
Yeah not how that works friend
twilit arch
road to 70 is only for newly created characters
wintry chasm
^
twilit arch
world visit doesn't give the buff
last plover
Anyone able to help with an ACT error?
young fjord
Im not going to click that
last plover
ya i fucked up lol lemme rety
i got through everything until the end when i go to plugins>plugins.dll and hitting New on the bottom
rose rose
How do you unlock additional shop levels at the scrip exchange? Friend of mine is at level 70 ARM and almost done with post-HW, but still has only the level 50 shop unlocked
twilit arch
has he unlocked the idyllshire house of splendors?
rose rose
What would be the process of doing that if he hasn't?
or, how would he be able to tell?
twilit arch
there's a quest in mor dhona called "Go west, craftsman" that unlocks the idyllshire house
and how you can tell is by interacting with the splendor npcs in idyllshire
rose rose
he has the go west craftsman quest done, and it still only has the level 50 shop
or wait, do you not unlock the 61 shop until SB?
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
He should have 2 sections, lv50 and 58. 61 requires the rhaglr's reach house unlocked, yeah
rose rose
hm, not even I have the 58 shop
twilit arch
._. no
fierce falcon
Alright I don't know what to do at this point. My game keeps crashing in dx11 completely randomly, sometimes once per day sometimes 3 times per hour. I don't know what is causing this, months ago I had multiple dx11 errors messages when it crashed but now it just closes and that's it. I've tried disabling any kinds of overlays, tried changing all kinds of sound settings from suggestions on google and more ... It's still happening. Anyone have an idea on what I could do ?
twilit arch
@tender estuary can you help kizuyo?
faint flare
Cry, or ask people to come get it away
frigid sigil
fierce falcon
done and done
tender estuary
xbox app
fierce falcon
uninstalled
fierce falcon
I only have windows defender and ff14 dx9/dx11 are in the exceptions
tender estuary
alright
lost zenith
hi guys, it says I can't enter a treasure map portal cuz I dont have the requirements? But I have done many portals before?
tender estuary
do you know exactly when it started occuring?
tender estuary
was it after a specific patch
lost zenith
Everyone is @faint flare
fierce falcon
It VERY rarely crashes on dx9, it feels like a different crash where the game starts to lag then eventually crashes
faint flare
And you can't invite people after the map was open
tender estuary
the game starts to lag?
faint flare
Make sure no one has duty finder penalty
fierce falcon
no i've had this problem for a very long time
tender estuary
are you playing on a laptop?
faint flare
And are all above the level
lost zenith
Yeah, it specifically says I'm the one who doesn't meet requirements
While I have done many maps with this gruop, all lvl 80
fierce falcon
No at all, i'm a r5 1600x + 5700xt but sometimes in dx9 I know it will crash because sometimes after a loading screen the game freezes a bit
i'm on*
lost zenith
No nothing
faint flare
🤷♂️
tender estuary
well I do know for sure that the 5700 and 5700XT are rather infamous for driver issues especially with XIV
(even though they claim its only the benchmark in the known issues)
fierce falcon
They were big driver issues with the 5700xt but it's fixed now, and every game works perfectly
Back when I was on my rx580 I still had dx11 crashes
lost zenith
Oh we found it @faint flare , it was cuz I was in party finder
lost zenith
Idk most of the time th eparty leader is still in the party finder so idk why it's different
cobalt pagoda
I might be too much of an casual or not used to rotations in mmorpgs but I can’t even touch SMN because I know the roations is ass and with me playing the job?? that rotation will suck ass really bad and I don’t know what to do
T^T
tender estuary
hmm alright
I guess 2 possible things worth bringing up, could be a possible hard drive issue or corrupted data, or you could try undervolting the card
even if other games work fine
fierce falcon
Had the same issue when my game was on my HDD and is now on a pretty recent ssd
I guess my last hope is like reinstalling windows
tender estuary
well we could try repairing windows first I have a good app for that, if that doesnt work yeah maybe
see if this helps
repairs file tables, registry, essential components etc.
tender estuary
np
just ping me later if you need further assistance I'll try and think of some other possible things we can try
fierce falcon
Alright
tawdry blade
random question but does anyone know what this loading screen is referencing
is it gridania / mor dhona in th ebackground
tawdry blade
oh yeah! that makes a lot more sense thank you
last vale
seems there are no grps for eden's gate savage on grp finder? although its not the fighest difficulty? sepulture savage is needed to unlock the epic of alexander
highest*
but i guess there is no need for epic of alexander as it gives 475 only
faint flare
Ultimates are for the bragging rights/shiny weapon
lime sphinx
What's the gear progression at level 80, should i buy crafted gear since i plan on getting into raids?
I have plenty of GIL to buy a full 480 set
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
If you don’t want to buy neo-Ishgard, then grind level 80 dungeons to get Phanta/allegory to spend on gear
pliant monolith
hey guys, quick question. I'm a lv50 bard and my MSQ is at lv 24, which is literally half my level. i also have a lv 30 scholar alt job.
Would it be better to continue to do the MSQ on my bard or scholar?
obsidian patio
And run Eden’s Gate/Verse for i450/i480 gear, along with Copied Factory for i460
sage plaza
hey guys, quick question. I'm a lv50 bard and my MSQ is at lv 24, which is literally half my level. i also have a lv 30 scholar alt job.
Would it be better to continue to do the MSQ on my bard or scholar?
@pliant monolith whichever you enjoy more
unless you're at level capped and you care about the exp
obsidian patio
Scholar can get instant queues for dungeons so not doing the story on them isn’t a major deal/advantage
But it will help them catch up with your bard
leaden ginkgo
White mage any good? Been thinking of getting into a healer
obsidian patio
Yes.
faint flare
Yes
sage plaza
all classes are viable
obsidian patio
WHM has the best mana efficiency of the healers and powerful healing GCDs
They also do the most personal damage of the healers
pliant monolith
ahh that makes sense. thank y'all :)
grave thicket
How often does odin fate spawns?
obsidian patio
Every 24-48 hours or so
open coral
What I'll typically tell people looking to get into healing is that WHM is the best from an absolute throughput standpoint. Huge power heals and cds with short recast timers and the ability to top up an entire party in less than two gcds. They're very easy to learn to play competently making them good for beginners.
keen cloud
Is there any requirement to get the rewards from the special FATEs? I did 2 today and I haven't earned contribution/rewards
faint flare
Get in a party to make it easier for higher ranks
last vale
are dancer or a magical dps an easier start into endgame eden's verse savage in order to learn mechanics and so on?
open coral
If you're talking about the boss FATEs, it's very difficult to get the required gold or silver ranking solo.
keen cloud
I see
eternal sable
I screwed up and need some help, please. I followed a link sent to me via an in-game tell (about a forum post) and stupidly logged in before realizing it was a fake link.
Immediately, my internet went out. I rebooted my router and cable modem while I scrambled to change my square-enix password on my phone. I also rebooted my machine. Now I'm paranoid and not sure what steps I should follow.
Obviously, their call center is down with covid, and having only recently returning to FFXIV after 6 years, I'm not sure how bad the hacking might get or how paranoid to be. Is there a link I can read about the right process to follow?
open coral
I'd recommend DNC to start the endgame raids @last vale simply because they have more mobility options and the Eden's Verse raids have a ton of movement required.
last vale
i guessed so. and maybe summoner due to 5% dmg buff (>black mage) and mobility too. machinist doesnt bring any raid utility
but the rota @ dnc is very easy
open coral
Ultimately it's really going to be personal preference. I always go into content as a healer because that's the role that I'm most comfortable with, and it lets me focus more on the execution of mechanics without feeling the pressure of needing to do a dps rotation.
last vale
im mainly healer in all rpgs, also endgame content WoW. but here healers are much more focused on dps
so maybe not the best idea to start with healer here
open coral
No more than they are in Mythic raids or Mythic+ content in WoW, really.
last vale
yeah ok, then i guess i just stick with healer here. imho scholar/astr > wma
due to rdps/utility
open coral
WHM does better dps than either AST or SCH
last vale
but pdps or
open coral
Healers are casters
last vale
and overall scholar/astr gives more
open coral
WHM is therefore a caster - mrdps.
It's always important to have a balanced healing composition. SCH is basically Disc Priest, while AST does bring raid buffs, but those are not make-or-break. As I mentioned earlier, WHM has the best pure-healing throughput of the three, meaning their primary utility lies not in providing buffs to single players (as AST does) or preventing damage (as SCH does), but in simply the sheer power of their healing and their ability to deal damage.
Vinyl also mentioned the fact that WHM has the best mana efficiency.
last vale
y wma feels like holy priest
open coral
WHM is a lot like holy priest, but with more offensive power.
obsidian patio
@eternal sable immediately changing your password is a good first step. If you want further protection I recommend adding the authenticator to your account
pine bluff
so.. everyone says heavensward is when the story actually gets really good, but how about the quests between ARR heavensward? are they worth paying attention to, or can I just skip the dialogue like I usually do
obsidian patio
The very beginning of the ARR patch series can feel very filler-y, but the story starts coming together around/after beating up Leviathan.
eternal sable
I logged into mogstation and it looks like my acct got suspended. I'm impressed and hope that means damage is limited
pine bluff
hmm ok, @obsidian patio how far into the quest line?
pine bluff
ok cool ty
queen cove
Enochian can be used just once at the start of the fight provided I never lose astral ice/fire right?
faint flare
Yes
faint flare
If you're on simple. You'll also have a little icon next to the bar to show its on as well
Prior to polygot
faint flare
Xp on completion
deep flare
okie cool ty
atomic elm
Is it possible to fly with a mount?
zinc orbitBOT
normal oasis
can someone tell me how to unlock eden's verse savage? I did all the normal ones and completed them, but I still don't see the savage raids in my list
strange coral
There's an NPC in Mord Souq, whose name I always forget, that you need to talk to to unlock savage versions. Has a blue quest icon.
strange coral
Check your duty finder under the High-end Duty section. They won't appear in Regular Duty
midnight slate
Can any RDM players how the job is
mossy tartan
What happens if, for example, I’m queueing for a level 70 dungeon with my level 80 job, while queuing, I change to a level 50 job, what happens when I click accept when it pops?
midnight slate
You have to change back to the job you queued as
mossy tartan
So the queue is dropped?
midnight slate
No it’s just won’t let you in
strange coral
It doesn't let you click Accept until you change to what you queued with
midnight slate
Until you change it
mossy tartan
okay, thank you both
midnight slate
NP
sharp rapids
Can any RDM players how the job is
@midnight slate you mean if the job is cool?
midnight slate
Is it fun yeah
dense shadow
Its a pretty legit class, pretty easy too
There is no bad class. Everyone brings something
sharp rapids
If you know D&D / Forgotten Realms, Red Mage makes me feel like a true Bladesinger (specially on Elezen)
dense pier
Which ring is better for PLD. Yes, I know not level cap but I'm trying to learn stat weight.
Shire Custodian's Ring or Shire Pankratiat's Ring?
obsidian patio
Technically, it would be the Custodian since that was intended for tanks. Accessories become role-locked after heavensward.
chilly birch
magic vapor
Hey if Im subbed to FF14 on PS4 but I get the PC version while Im subbed, will I still get the 30 days?
lime niche
Is it possible to purchase the SDS Fenrir mount for a single character?
lime niche
Thank you @obsidian patio
dense pier
Hello. I'm playing through HW right now doing the MSQ. I've noticed a lot of my new gear I've been using from HW hasn't been showing up in the "Materia Creation(Extraction)" menu and that all my gear from HW is stuck at 0% Spirit Bond.
obsidian patio
Spiritbond gain is loosely based on your equipment’s item level and the level of the monsters you hit
dense pier
I've been trying to ask for help in the NN but they've been unhelpful/argumentative that I'm misreading something so I'm trying to get an idea of what the heck is going on
Okay
obsidian patio
If your gear is too high above/below the enemies you fight you barely get any spiritbond
dense pier
but I've gotten this gear from HW and I'm attacking MSQ monsters
and every piece is at 0%
Well
obsidian patio
Leveling story gear or patch story gear?
dense pier
Maybe the iLevel is too high. I got the full antique PLD gear from completing 60 PLD quest
Leveling I believe
I'm at 58 in MSQ
obsidian patio
Yeah the i200 stuff is pretty high above the “ilvl” of the leveling monsters
zinc orbitBOT
worldly quail
When do the first full party raids happen? Is there a lvl req?
scarlet widget
Does crafting durability actually have any effect on the crafted item once created?
obsidian patio
8-man content starts happening at level 50
Durability left means nothing after completing a recipe
Finishing with 30 is the same as finishing with 0
scarlet widget
Brilliant, I thought as much thanks!
worldly quail
Gotcha tyty
crimson wind
How's healing on controller
sharp rapids
I believe after some practice you can get used to it and manage it fine according to some guides I watched on Youtube
crimson crystal
@crimson wind I'm able to do it well. Hotbar controls quickly become muscle memory
crimson wind
can't you go to party list by clicking the touch pad
crimson crystal
You can just use up/down on d-pad
So selecting tank is literally just down down
I put off global cooldown spells on double tap and L2+R2 / R2+L2
midnight slate
Is Malikah’s well better than MT gulg for leveling to 80
twilit arch
no
leaden ginkgo
i need some help getting from level 6 to 10, i cant do msq because i did it on glad, up to lvl 30, i cant do my next guild quest until 10
or 15 maybe
forest laurel
you just kill mobs that are in your hunting log
H by default opens up the hunting log
rich bay
@obsidian patio @scarlet widget
Actually a 49 MSQ has the first 8-man duty. It is synced to 50.
remote siren
New Player from NA: Any advice picking a server? I'm pretty casual.
forest laurel
not really
iirc Crystal's the RP datacentre
but honestly just pick whichever one you want
preferably a preferred server that's marked with a star, so you can get the road to 70 buff.
it lasts for around 90 days minimum, and it's double xp for any and all jobs under level 70
forest laurel
level 17 quest in gridania, from nojiro marujiro
it's the quest that unlocks it
once you have it unlocked, talk to the wood walker expeditionary captain in quarrymill, south shroud, to get into PotD
try to get to floor 50 at least, so that you unlock the checkpoint to start from floor 51.
running floors 51-60 is the best xp you can get from potd
dense pier
@little swift
I tried the signature thingy. Even if your FC isn't real/ready, it still puts a tag on you
remote lintel
when do you use 6 sided star
slate arrow
!action six sided star
zinc orbitBOT
Powered by XIVAPI
slate arrow
realistically speaking? Almost never.
obsidian patio
When forced downtime is about to happen and you can’t hit the boss anymore, but you’re still able to use form shift
little swift
@dense pier that's better than nothing but good to know!
remote lintel
obsidian patio
If the downtime makes you unable to use actions and therefor lose GL4 you do something like SSS > Tornado kick
remote lintel
so if anatman is on CD then I would use sss
obsidian patio
Not exactly the same purpose between them
Since SSS does damage
You can do SSS > Anatman
dense pier
I wonder if I can use an invisible character
obsidian patio
No true invisibility, unless you want to count Ninja’s Hide
vapid mortar
hey guys, in ps4 I can't lock on enemies when there are more than one, whenever I use a skill it cancels the lock
how do I lock on enemies
obsidian patio
Don’t think so either. :/
strong sphinx
Was there a reaosn to as why there were no job quests during Heavenward?
obsidian patio
There are. They’re the level 50-60 job quests
strong sphinx
but i couldnt access them, only after when i finished heavenward
obsidian patio
You only needed to have started heavensward to do them. 
@vapid mortar by lock on do you mean pressing L3?
vapid mortar
yeah
but even if I do that it releases the lock after I use a skill
yeah it's just L3
obsidian patio
Using skills doesn’t seem to cancel the lock-on for me.
jolly beacon
I usually lock on by pressing the cross button.
stable token
Just reached level 50. Still have a bit of Realm Reborn left, and then there is everything after. If I buy the expansions now and raise my level cap, will that result in the quests prior to Heavensward over-levelong me for Heavensward content?
obsidian patio
Not particularly, the patch quests give very little experience
stable token
Okay, thanks
obsidian patio
If you’re on a preferred server you’ll probably end up at around 53-54 depending on if you keep doing roulettes
vapid mortar
@jolly beacon hey I think pressing X works like you said, thanks everyone!
mossy tartan
Is there a way to view a “log” of all /tell received in a single FFXIV session?
upper mortar
should i get to level cap before i try to level fishing?
obsidian patio
@mossy tartan nope, but you can dedicate a chat window entirely just for /tells
mossy tartan
@mossy tartan nope, but you can dedicate a chat window entirely just for /tells
@obsidian patio yes, that! How?
My main one is cluttered with the zone’s chat
Nevermind, I figured it out
Thank you
obsidian patio
@upper mortar ehh, not that needed. But unlocking flight for the zones you’re leveling up in can be helpful when you get to the expansions
remote lintel
actions and traits
wintry chasm
You have to unlock it in Old Gridania by the Amphitheatre
faint flare
You can unlock performance to play music in old gridina
remote lintel
it tells you
jolly beacon
Is there a good time for attempting the binding coil of Bahamut raids. I have got to turn 4 but not been able to form a party in duty finder since a week last sunday.
leaden ginkgo
Any specific lvl?
faint flare
No one uses duty finder for coils
wintry chasm
You don't use duty finder Part
You use party finder
And generally unsync the fights
faint flare
@leaden ginkgo lv30
faint flare
Aka the moment you unlock it
wintry chasm
So you mean archer
leaden ginkgo
Just did the first quest
remote lintel
you mean archer then
remote lintel
bard can unlock performance right from the moment they become one
leaden ginkgo
Kinda up setty oh well
wintry chasm
Yeah go level and unlock the doot doots
next steppe
sorry, odd question; my main tank is DRK, and I know how to handle tankbusters as DRK, with blackest night and sometimes a CD if needed, but what's GNB's equivalent, if it has one? I'm in Holminster's Switch right now, and I tried Heart of Stone with a CD and my health went down to half, so I'm thinking I'm doing something wrong, or not using the right skill
remote lintel
you do hunting log
wintry chasm
!faq armouryexp
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Ye i just mean i dont wanna suffer and lvl again
wintry chasm
Getting to level 30 would literally take like, an afternoon
obsidian patio
@next steppe Heart of Stone is GNB’s equivalent of TBN
remote lintel
what calisaie said
faint flare
@next steppe gnb doesn't have a shield so heart of stone is the equivalent
Use other cooldowns if you want
leaden ginkgo
There will come a time where i really care about bieng a bard tho
remote lintel
then go become a bard
wintry chasm
When you're on a preferred server I find it really hard to remotely justify a level skip
next steppe
ah heck, alright. just didn't feel like heart of stone was doing much for me at all, but I appreciate it
wintry chasm
It's iffy even without the XP boost but with it you just level so fast idk why you need to skip
frigid pelican
are there allowed mods for FFXIV?
faint flare
Techincally none are really allowed but fight club rules: dont show and dont tell publicly
frigid pelican
i see
i just wonder if there are mods to make character graphics worse
cause they suck a lot of my cpu power
wintry chasm
remote lintel
first time I've heard that request
wintry chasm
Have you just tried lowering your settings?
frigid pelican
lol
wintry chasm
Also yes
frigid pelican
yea they on minimum
wintry chasm
I doubt it
frigid pelican
😂
some games like eso allow u to mod outside textures for example
to make it worse
and gain performance
remote lintel
there's a bunch of mods to make the game look better
I've never heard of one to make it worse
wintry chasm
You'd have to look it up
leaden ginkgo
Why are scholar and astrologian low for?
I was kinda thinking about going healer route.... idk tho
remote lintel
then play a healer
leaden ginkgo
Kinda
wintry chasm
Where did you get that from?
leaden ginkgo
Website 😮
faint flare
People like playing ez healers
wintry chasm
Wow
faint flare
🤷♂️
wintry chasm
That's helpful
remote lintel
lmao
little swift
what website is this
leaden ginkgo
leaden ginkgo
Ye i went to get link and left u with the words website
little swift
xivcensus isn't super accurate from what i can remember
leaden ginkgo
:D!
wintry chasm
Yadda yadda unofficial yadda yadda unreliable
Yadda yadda literally shouldn't take it as true
remote lintel
just play whatever you want there's like no meta
frigid pelican
lol rogue is so bad on this sad but i heard ninja is actually among top dps
remote lintel
I don't think so
frigid pelican
for dungeons ninja is one of top i heard of my nn
leaden ginkgo
Tbh the card lady seemed cool but um
remote lintel
oh for dungeons
unkempt oasis
where i can spend final fantasy xiv tomestone of poetics
leaden ginkgo
Theres that
wintry chasm
Not quite
little swift
!faq poetics
wintry chasm
You need to reach Heavensward story
zinc orbitBOT
wintry chasm
It's not the same thing as being level 50
leaden ginkgo
Oh
wintry chasm
Not quite
little swift
being at least lvl50*
sick zenith
@leaden ginkgo the biggest variance in damage output among similar classes is player skill
Unironically
little swift
you can be easily over that
wintry chasm
You can be level 50 and not reach HW
frigid pelican
you can be 60 and not reach it
wintry chasm
That still two different things Cerberus
leaden ginkgo
I just like playing the class not alot of people are playing :<
I was told not alot of people play black mage
And i like mages to begin with
remote lintel
people play everything
sick zenith
I play black mage
sick zenith
I teleport and explode things
leaden ginkgo
Grrr
remote lintel
i don't see what this "people play this and people dont play this" means when people literally can have all classes
wintry chasm
I don't know why you care what the popular job is
frigid pelican
@sick zenith are u a kobold
leaden ginkgo
Idk either
sick zenith
No
leaden ginkgo
Cus people will go oh! Healer!
remote lintel
just get all the jobs you want
unkempt oasis
where i can buy 230 gear?
leaden ginkgo
Vs Oh Dps!
frigid pelican
@remote lintel mainstream thinking
remote lintel
im confused but ok
obsidian patio
@unkempt oasis idyllshire
wintry chasm
@unkempt oasis Idyllshire but idk why you want 230
sick zenith
So oserium i have a piece of good advice. Theres a place you can unlock where you can level up classes to a high level to see what they will play like
leaden ginkgo
I like to not play what everyone else is :>
remote lintel
@sick zenith you need the job stone
leaden ginkgo
Oh there is?!
sick zenith
Its called palace of the dead and you can demo classes there quickly
leaden ginkgo
Where the ffff????
remote lintel
not exactly
wintry chasm
Well really you need to level it to 30 first Akko
leaden ginkgo
Omg whereeeee
sick zenith
Well you need to unlock it yes
unkempt oasis
iam lvl 62 iam playing main story and it req 230
little swift
PotD doesn't really show what a class plays like
leaden ginkgo
Im lvl 34444
little swift
things die too fast
leaden ginkgo
Wheres it at?
frigid pelican
potd is a bit boring.
wintry chasm
Get the 260 stuff Salem
sick zenith
Quarymill in shroud
leaden ginkgo
Ok sec
sick zenith
By gridania
wintry chasm
Unlock quest is in New Gridania
remote lintel
you need to unlock it
wintry chasm
In the adventurer guild
remote lintel
and then you need to work your way up from lvl 1
wintry chasm
"The House that Death Built"
leaden ginkgo
I see south shroud
And the house that death built too
Thanks a bunch guys
Thats super hecking aweosme of u
Ily
wintry chasm
Reminder because I don't think Akko really explained this
wintry chasm
If you use a class you won't have access to the job skills
remote lintel
they need a job stone
frigid pelican
i took my arcanist in
remote lintel
to see what it's like
frigid pelican
he was lvl 2
remote lintel
thats literally not what i was saying but ok
sick zenith
things die too fast
@little swift
The bosses and later floors run a bit more normally
frigid pelican
ah sry
wintry chasm
For what we are talking about Cerberus isn't wrong exactly
sick zenith
Imo
remote lintel
you can't exactly see what a job is like when you dont have the stone
sick zenith
You can see what the base class is like
wintry chasm
But yeah it's a really really bad look on how a job works at higher levels UNLESS you go in as the job which means leveling your class to level 30 first @leaden ginkgo @leaden ginkgo
sick zenith
Which is still enough info to help form a decision
remote lintel
i wouldnt say so
unkempt oasis
@wintry chasm its 17 lvl
wintry chasm
...yes
sick zenith
I knew i didnt want to play several classes because I ran them in potd
I guess its subjective
remote lintel
all classes start out slow but then get more enjoyable at later lvls
frigid pelican
archer is super boring without job
remote lintel
i would have hated thaumaturge
sick zenith
I agree with that
remote lintel
but i love blm
wintry chasm
Like, some job skills are critical to the job playstyle
sick zenith
Yeah that i agree with too
remote lintel
this is more #general-discussion
wintry chasm
A bit
sick zenith
True.
remote lintel
we answered already
wintry chasm
Just wanted Oserium to get the point
unkempt oasis
i did it
remote lintel
if they even read lol
zinc orbitBOT
remote lintel
like an almost endless dungeon where you start at lvl 1
leaden ginkgo
Ok i did the quest so how do i enterthis place?
remote lintel
talk to the guy at quarrymill
wintry chasm
The expedition captain guy
warped nest
If you are a new player, we recommend focusing on 
wintry chasm
By the bridge
warped nest
You can come back to this deep dungeon later
remote lintel
note that it's not actually a place to test your classes
leaden ginkgo
Oh
unkempt oasis
so if i did i will get high armor from it?
leaden ginkgo
I was trolled?
remote lintel
you CAN test your classes but it's not that great for it
wintry chasm
What do you mean Cerberus?
remote lintel
like
wintry chasm
Nooo
remote lintel
it's not like a practice area
leaden ginkgo
Oh... where it at then?...
warped nest
It is mainly for fun and for challenge
You can get weapons from it but it is for lvl 60
wintry chasm
It's great for finding out how your job feels it's just not good for learning how to actually play it well
frigid pelican
@warped nest especially with 285 msq in arr-_- i just went through this grind the last 30 days....
remote lintel
i'm saying it's not like some practice area where you just go "hmmm i wanna try out lvl 80 black mage" and then bam you try it
warped nest
Palace of the Dead is capped at lvl 60
leaden ginkgo
Now im hating the idea of other characters... ima go back to just playing my black mage now... which meannnns ima have to buy the full game for real now
warped nest
Inside potd yeah you are capped at 60
wintry chasm
Heaven on High to 70
warped nest
It aint
leaden ginkgo
So guys quick opinion... u said uve meet alot of people who were bad at black mage?
warped nest
They were released on HW and SB respectively
wintry chasm
Who said that?
remote lintel
nobody said that
unkempt oasis
so who sell 230 armor in udyllshire?
leaden ginkgo
Idk 4-5 days ago someone said
crimson wind
How long should it take me to get a Kinna weapon?
leaden ginkgo
Some people are bad at black mage and thats why they dont play em as much cus they cant get used to em
leaden ginkgo
And then some people are to damn good with it when they know what they are doing
leaden ginkgo
I actualy have a nice setup atm at lvl 34 its changing but im soooo ok with the changes
Lol
wintry chasm
Sounds like the person is just bad or doesn't like the playstyle?
unkempt oasis
@wintry chasm if i dont buy what i can do to get them
remote lintel
it's easy at low lvl
wintry chasm
Get the 260 gear
leaden ginkgo
Hmm then i cant wait for the higher up areas
remote lintel
black mage has like 5 meters at lvl 80
unkempt oasis
@wintry chasm from?
leaden ginkgo
Meters?
wintry chasm
The same NPC
leaden ginkgo
Hmmm
leaden ginkgo
I guess thats why nit alot of people wanna go to black mage?
remote lintel
depends
leaden ginkgo
Alot of work and stuff to keep track of?
warped nest
It is personal preference in the end
remote lintel
^
leaden ginkgo
Hmmm
little swift
black mage's rotation changes a lot over the levels
leaden ginkgo
The beggining of the game is very boring :>
wintry chasm
The biggest issue I have when trying to play Black Mage well is knowing how to stand still as much as possible in my leylines in a fight
little swift
rika's here! she can explain
raw solstice
"5 meters to take care of" seems like quite a bit of an exaggeration to how much you have to pay attention to on BLM, even at cap
leaden ginkgo
But i like the mage so far
wintry chasm
I can only really think of two meters
unkempt oasis
@wintry chasm i found him he not selling samurai things XD
raw solstice
you have to pay attention to your AF/UI timer (which is only one at a time) and then your poly timer
wintry chasm
It's not a him
warped nest
The only thing you need to track on your gauge is your Foul and your timer
wintry chasm
Screenshot
raw solstice
and both are more of a passive thing
unkempt oasis
remote lintel
"him"
little swift
yes salem
remote lintel
🤔
warped nest
There's no need to track how many stack of AF/UI or whether you have Umbral Hearts
wintry chasm
Talk to her....
remote lintel
i guess so chronos
leaden ginkgo
Well ima stick with the black mage cus atm its super easy for me at least how i have my keybinds
leaden ginkgo
I can get to 12 of my keybinds easy
unkempt oasis
leaden ginkgo
Any other keybinds is a tad tricky
crimson wind
i found him he not selling samurai things XD
look harder
leaden ginkgo
But ye
wintry chasm
Oh if you want the 260 weapon that's...uhh, the lady to the right?
Maybe left
One of them
leaden ginkgo
I mean if im handling black mage at lvl 34 pretty well so far do u guys think ill be able to handle em at lvl 80 then?
remote lintel
left is for alexander
wintry chasm
Right then
obsidian patio
BLM drastically changes at 60
leaden ginkgo
Oh?
little swift
!faq blmleveling
leaden ginkgo
Lol tru
remote lintel
it's not that difficult
zinc orbitBOT
little swift
just an example of how the rotation changes through the levels
remote lintel
too many abbreviations 
warped nest
The thing is, as long as you enjoy the feel of the job, you can overcome a small obstacle of adding new skills in your rotation
remote lintel
^
remote lintel
T = thunder
F = fire
B = blizz
leaden ginkgo
And if worse comes to worse
warped nest
You worried too much
remote lintel
black mage really isnt that hard
just because other people dont like it doesnt mean you wont
remote lintel
thats subjective
leaden ginkgo
Ye but what clas smakes u do the most
wintry chasm
Monk I guess
leaden ginkgo
Hmmm
wintry chasm
Nahhhh Oserium
sick zenith
Ive heard summoner is busy
leaden ginkgo
Hardest casting class?.. in final fantasy?
wintry chasm
Monk is really fast and ughhhh
leaden ginkgo
Anyone else have a opinion on that?
wintry chasm
Casting is Summoner purely from a rotation stand point
wintry chasm
Monk is literally the fastest job on the game
remote lintel
faster than bard?
sick zenith
Summoner seems to have more rotation but more mobility
wintry chasm
Well.....in GCD Cerberus
remote lintel
oh
wintry chasm
You got me there
remote lintel
then yeah
little swift
in gcd no in weave frequency
sick zenith
Black mage has a simple rotation but needs to stand still to use it
remote lintel
yeah the hardest part about black mage is moving tbh
wintry chasm
Especially moving outside leylines
leaden ginkgo
Ill stay with black mage everyone else can bite me then 🤩
leaden ginkgo
Its just i feel like the game may need another healer...
When im looking for dungys its the last thing to be found
potent tapir
Moving as a BLM is easy
leaden ginkgo
Makes me curious
sick zenith
Continue your course fellow brother of the black
remote lintel
^
potent tapir
You Aetherskate to someone
little swift
this would be bordering on discussion territory but it would hopefully be 6.0 whne we get another healer
sick zenith
You can ping me for blm questions I main blm up to 54
remote lintel
doing the nyoom on blm on a controller is the hardest part
leaden ginkgo
Oh ye i did do the full quest all black mages are brothers and sisters 0-0
potent tapir
The question is "did the person do the mechanic correctly?"
wintry chasm
54 is nothing
little swift
probably ask rika if you wanted answer though
sick zenith
I say 54 because i can answer questions up to that level
remote lintel
i could answer them up to 80
leaden ginkgo
I just hate hearing people playing same class as me is all
I really try to play the least played class possible 0-0
little swift
no seriously though, rika is probably the most informed out of all of us for BLM/casters, she's a BLM mentor on the balance and endgamementor here
crazy good
remote lintel
anyone who can do eden savage on blm has balls of steel
remote lintel
i wouldnt do that
little swift
not just savage, ultimates
remote lintel
yeesh
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Who says there own name after a message lol?
Oserium
Is there a way to buy the full game in game?
Or nah
sharp rapids
in ps4 i bought all through playstation store
little swift
nah you can't buy it while in game since you have to patch all the new data in
leaden ginkgo
N i n?
potent tapir
Ninja
remote lintel
for what
potent tapir
Ninja and Monk aren't very popular
remote lintel
I like nin
potent tapir
Like having a NIN or playing as a NIN?
remote lintel
playing
leaden ginkgo
Baka
potent tapir
Wow, a rarity
leaden ginkgo
What healer is leats played u think?
potent tapir
AST is the least played
leaden ginkgo
Why do u think?
potent tapir
People like AST for the glam but not for the mechanics
It's a lot more work than WHM
leaden ginkgo
Is it worth if u can?
remote lintel
if you like it yes
potent tapir
It's not complicated, in my opinion. Just busy.
remote lintel
white mage is the straightforward healer while scholar has shields
potent tapir
But I also thought that GNB was "simple" so...uh.
remote lintel
ast has buffs
twilit arch
ast really isn't that complex
potent tapir
I am not necessarily a...uh
leaden ginkgo
Is ast the one with fairys u have to manage and keep track of?
twilit arch
but it definitely requires more thought process than white mage does
potent tapir
Good person to ask about difficulty
twilit arch
scholar is the one with fairy
leaden ginkgo
Oh the one im intrested in ok
potent tapir
Scholar is a very simple class but it seems to have a strange divide of competent Scholars and everyone else
leaden ginkgo
Does she automaticaly become lvl 50 when i unlock the Ast?
remote lintel
no
potent tapir
With the middle ground being "horrible"
twilit arch
no
remote lintel
lvl 30
twilit arch
AST starts at lv30
leaden ginkgo
Oh... wait do i get it automaticaly at 30 or do i have to lvl a character as well??
potent tapir
You have to wait until you begin Heavensward
leaden ginkgo
Ok ok
twilit arch
you have to reach the city of ishgard (lvl 50) to be able to unlock it
leaden ginkgo
Ye i get it now
hoary storm
whats the best item to give to the doman enclave restoration?
twilit arch
demicrystals with poetics
twilit arch
or allagan pieces if you've got those
hoary storm
kk ty
leaden ginkgo
So i may be a Ast then :>
potent tapir
remote lintel
define hard
leaden ginkgo
More button smashing?
potent tapir
AST is definitely more busy
leaden ginkgo
Ah
potent tapir
BLM's difficulty is fight adjustment
remote lintel
^
leaden ginkgo
Div?
regal mirage
Where can I get lv25 jewelry for a lancer other than marketplace, like quests or specific dungeons
remote lintel
jewler vendor
potent tapir
Umm
remote lintel
in the city
leaden ginkgo
So ast least plyed then black mage? Got it im hooked already :>
potent tapir
Quests is just MSQ or Class
potent tapir
Dungeons would be level 24
leaden ginkgo
remote lintel
i don't think the least played classes are much lower than others
ive seen a bunch of blms
leaden ginkgo
potent tapir
Isn't BLM fairly popular?
twilit arch
if we're going by fflogs its bottom 3
for parse amounts uploaded to fflogs
tbh i think a lot of people end up getting turned off of blm because people overstate how much you need to know the fights before hand
potent tapir
I...can't imagine playing BLM this tier
obsidian patio
Should clarify by parse amount, not damage
remote lintel
nah it's fun
potent tapir
In Savage pugs?
remote lintel
unkempt oasis
i cant buy weapone through tomestone of poetics right?
faint flare
You can
little swift
yes you can
remote lintel
there's just extra steps
little swift
@unkempt oasis 10 rowena's token (scripture) and 1 micro tomestone for the shire one
potent tapir
You'll have to buy the tomestone tokens and the relevant tomestone drop from the vendor of the relevant expac
unkempt oasis
what is shire ?
remote lintel
the lvl 60 poetics gear
little swift
thats the ilvl260 stuff you were trying to get earlier
remote lintel
there's a separate vendor for the armor and the weapons so if you look at the weapons vendor it will say what you need
little swift
under teh other section of hismena's menus