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pine bluff
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is the default gear for level 50 jobs basically gonna be the best gear for a while? when will I start being able to find better gear?

polar hound
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Make sure you did you job quests for sch

potent tapir
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Just remember to hit Whispering Dawn once in a while

mild ermine
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It doesn’t feel like it heals enough though.

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Yeah all the job quests are done.

potent tapir
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Yeah, sometimes you might have to support her but that's about it

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At mid-levels, you'll have Indom, probably for AoE, Sacred Soil for large pulls, and Emergency Tactics

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At higher levels things start to hurt more and you'll be stuck with your 3 uses being: Excog, Sacred Soil, Lustrate/Sacred Soil/Excog

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When you reach cap, it gets better but that really depends on the tank

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For trials, this is different though

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pine bluff
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can I not leave potd between the 10-floor transition and still be in queue for the next set of 10 floors?

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it doesn't let me teleport

potent tapir
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You should be able to

pine bluff
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there's an exit portal but im worried it'll boot me out of the queue

potent tapir
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It shouldn't

pine bluff
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ok yep it's fine

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how is potd for levelling past 50? will I get much exp?

potent tapir
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If you want to avoid DPS queues, it's boring but good

pine bluff
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do you get a lot more exp in the later floors?

potent tapir
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The fastest method is spamming 50-60, iirc

cerulean pewter
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how hard is to tank in game? same as wow?

potent tapir
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Tanking in this game is really easy

cerulean pewter
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or is there any difference

potent tapir
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You just hit stuff and make sure to pop your mitigation when called for

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Knowing how to use Provoke and Shirk are also good ideas for harder content

cerulean pewter
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i guess its easy to get groups or a lot of tanks in game?

potent tapir
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But you're no longer required to fight for aggro vs the rest of the party

pine bluff
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you just have to make sure every enemy is focusing on you, that's about it

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it prob gets more complicated in the bigger dungeons

potent tapir
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The population who actively play tanks is small enough that it's easy to get groups

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But a lot of people play tanks for the purposes of getting them to 80

cerulean pewter
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thinking of going pally

pine bluff
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but if you're thinking about playing both dps and tank in the long run it's better to go through MSQ with a dps

potent tapir
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Or, more specifically

cerulean pewter
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i dont like to be dps tbh

potent tapir
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Level as a DPS using the MSQ

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And play the content as a tank

cerulean pewter
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pally can be dps too?

pine bluff
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depends on what you mean..

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as an official role, it cannot be a dps

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but it can -deal- damage

agile laurel
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by every single definition it is a tank

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there is no dps role paladin

pine bluff
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yeah it's not like WoW where you can spec your pally as a dps

pine bluff
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can you change the button for the camera?

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to something not right click

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I don't see it in keybinds

stable hinge
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what point in game do I reach kugane?

leaden ginkgo
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Second expansion @stable hinge

stable hinge
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stormblood?

leaden ginkgo
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So about level 60. Yeah

stable hinge
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Thanks

loud wolf
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if I level my class beyond 30

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will the levels carry over to the job?

potent tapir
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Yes, to the associated job

dusk zenith
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i am looking at this rotation for sam

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and im confused on what a filler phase means

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and when to use it?

loud wolf
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great thanks

obsidian patio
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@dusk zenith you use it at the end of the cooldown phase to ensure that Tsubame Gaeshi perfectly lines up with Midare

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The exact filler option you use depending on your GCD

dusk zenith
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ohhhh i see

obsidian patio
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So it goes Cooldown Phase > Filler Phase > Burst Phase

dusk zenith
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thanks!

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so its a dps loss if you dont use the filler phase?

obsidian patio
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Yes, as Tsubame will drift away from Midare

dusk zenith
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okay thanks, i will practice with it now

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i have been skipping it

obsidian patio
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\o/

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If your GCD sits between two of the fillers use the shorter one to avoid eventual drift

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But if it’s only like 0.1 or 0.2 you should be fine with the slower filler option

dusk zenith
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okay!

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ive also recently started doing eden savage raids

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and i just joined learning parties for e5s

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how do i tell if im parsing okay if im only using ilvl 480 gear?

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a lot of the parses/dps in fflogs at this point seem to be with full BiS

dire saffron
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if you have 480 i wouldnt worry about parse as long as its not grey

dusk zenith
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okay thanks

astral vortex
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How do I disable auto of scenario movie text on PS4??

obsidian patio
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triangle

astral vortex
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Thank you. I’ll try it.

zinc orbitBOT
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pine bluff
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is there a map of the world that shows the levels?

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e.g. im level 51 and wanna know where I should go to quest/level

leaden ginkgo
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@pine bluff you don't need that really, just do roulletes if you can't do the msq

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And PoTD at your level

pine bluff
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yeah im just in a queue to continue msq

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so I can't do potd

leaden ginkgo
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Aaah I see, fair

pine bluff
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I might do hunts instead?

leaden ginkgo
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Hunts are likely better from what I know yeah, but I'm not an expert

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I just know that end game hunts are a big thing, so I assumed

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Just making sure, are you doing your hunting log @pine bluff ? A lot of new players miss that

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Actually yeah you prolly are

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Assuming you've done hunts already

pine bluff
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I haven't been

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I have to do them to do hunts?

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new to hunts too

obsidian patio
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nope

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the hunting log is not related to the hunt, despite the name

leaden ginkgo
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Oh no? I thought you needed the GC to do hunts

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And in order to get the GC to the right level, you need the log

obsidian patio
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I was thinking more of the class-specific hunting log >.<

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oops

leaden ginkgo
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No yeah, I meant the grand company one

pine bluff
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hmm so I need to rank up before I can do hunts

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do I just do the gc quests to rank up?

obsidian patio
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but yeah, the grand company hunting log is part of the requirements to reach second lieutenant in your grand company to unlock the hunt

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yep

leaden ginkgo
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Also

pine bluff
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oh ok

leaden ginkgo
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You have to actually talk to the npc at your GC and turn in enough GC seals to rank up each level @pine bluff

pine bluff
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ohh ok

leaden ginkgo
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Simple enough to do, but maybe not obvious

pine bluff
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ok so I can either spend seals on ranking up

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or on.. stuff, I guess?

nova umbra
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are the weapons and equipment from silver chocobo feathers unique glamours?

leaden ginkgo
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Yeah, tho most of the good stuff is higher ranked

pine bluff
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kk so I should just save them up to rank up

leaden ginkgo
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So probably better to just spend it on ranks

twilit arch
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no, just poetic gear @nova umbra

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doctore is dungeon gear

obsidian patio
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At the bare minimum I suggest getting to Sergeant Second Class to unlock the ability to turn in dungeon gear for seals.

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which makes getting more seals a lot easier

leaden ginkgo
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Isn't there also another feature at a higher rank @obsidian patio ? I feel like I heard of one and thought it was pretty important

obsidian patio
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The Grand Company Squadron but they're not that vital

pine bluff
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what's the easiest way to get seals?

leaden ginkgo
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Yeah that was it, ok thanks

obsidian patio
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and the hunt at second lieutenant as previously mentioned

leaden ginkgo
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The hunting log gives a bunch on it's own

obsidian patio
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Grand Company Hunting log and FATEs near your level are your best methods

leaden ginkgo
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^

obsidian patio
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Leveling Roulette also gives some as part of the daily bonus

pine bluff
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ah ok I'll focus on the hunting log for now then

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just in time to start the dungeon haha

leaden ginkgo
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Yeah, also in the early levels of the GC iirc keep an eye on your seals and rank up when you can, as it's not entirely impossible you'll hit max seals quickly. As you rank up that becomes harder to do accidentally

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@pine bluff other thing is, just in case it confuses you- the hunting log is designed (but not often executed) to be done while leveling from the point you get it, which basically means at level 50 a lot of the mobs your killing for the log will be ridiculously easy to kill and give next to no rewards other then progressing the log. But trust us when we say it's worth it anyway, as the features you get are big

agile laurel
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mainly gating on your GC promotions, in the case of the GC hunt log

leaden ginkgo
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In other words the devs intended you to be doing it from like, level 20 or so, so you'll be killing level 20-50 mobs. Don't worry about missing it tho- it's just a bad design tbh, and I'm pretty sure like half of the new players miss it xp

pine bluff
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@leaden ginkgo yep gotcha

leaden ginkgo
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Also, be sure your following your GC log, not your class log- I myself mixed the two up a few times. With how little of a time sink it is at high level that isn't massively annoying, but worth knowing to look out for :p

pine bluff
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yep yep

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the class logs aren't bad either but I jsut do them as I come across the mobs

leaden ginkgo
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Gotcha

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I had missed both pretty much by the time I got 50, which is why I mentioned

magic light
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unlocked flamethrower for mch, anything I should know about it

pine bluff
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it shoots flames

leaden ginkgo
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From what I heard, the entire class revolves around the ability or something so I expect it's probably important, even if that's less the case then I had heard. But that's all I got XP

rotund timber
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When do you use NF vs RI as a warrior? I've been playing War a few weeks now and have just done NF for trash pakcs in dungeons and otherwise RI for tank busters. Is that right?

obsidian wren
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!faq rfvsri

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hm

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!faq rivsrf

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there was a far for this i thought

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wait no im dumb

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!faq nfvsri

zinc orbitBOT
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Nascent Flash versus Raw Intuition
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They're both on a 25s cooldown and you can heal up the auto-attacks between busters so use NFlash btw.

obsidian wren
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nf typically mitigates more damage through its healing than ri blocks

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assuming you don't die

obsidian patio
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So basically, you only use RI if it stops you from being one-shot

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or if you're in a duty that doesn't let you use NF

thorny spruce
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hey

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i need help

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i format my laptop, FFXIV looking for another registration code

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it's not accepting from my CD list

obsidian patio
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formatting shouldn't have done anything relating to FFXIV, is this steam?

thorny spruce
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steam

rotund timber
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Aaahhhhh okay. Thanks!

obsidian patio
thorny spruce
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ill check

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im suspended

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why am i suspended

obsidian patio
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👀

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I'd send in a support ticket then to find out why that may have happened.

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formatting your PC shouldn't have done anything relating to your account

thorny spruce
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im suspended 3 days

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someone reported me because i say "heil hitler" everytime i do this o/

dusky nest
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did you actually say that tho

magic light
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i've seen worse, i'm surprised that it'll warrant a suspension

dusky nest
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"o/" alone won't

pine bluff
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is there a way to use the same hotbar in pve and pvp

obsidian patio
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Pretty sure not.

hot eagle
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also pvp dosent use the normal skill actions

fresh lodge
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Saying heil hitler around randoms will 100% get you suspended

pine bluff
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so I randomly wandered into onsal hakair for the first time ever and oh god I am so confused

polar hound
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Go to the wolves den pier after and setup your pvp bars

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Use the pvp profile

pine bluff
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not a single person is using their company chocobo, which shows me how lost I am here, haha

forest laurel
pine bluff
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why cant I attack anyone?

forest laurel
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chocobo ain't the only mount

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and are you sure you're targeting the enemy team

dusky nest
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and are you sure you set up your hotbars with the PVP actions?

pine bluff
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I just set up the basic ones up now

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yeah the red guys, im targetting them but my hotbars skills are greyed out

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ohh it's cause I can't use the regular pve skils?

polar hound
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Yes

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Pvp actions are limited and differ from pve

forest laurel
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pve and pvp skills are completely separate

polar hound
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Go to wolves den pier and look at your pvp profile to see what skills you have in pvp

pine bluff
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holy cow it gives fuck tons of exp

thorny spruce
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instructions of lifting temporary suspension was to change password but still it's suspended.

polar hound
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If you were banned for saying heil hitler, you gotta wait the 3 days

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And remember not to say that again lol

shy vault
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hello guys how can i check when i need to renew the acc?

obsidian wren
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I would highly recommend you to not say those things

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On the character selection screen ot should say in the bottomright corner how many subscription days you have left

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You can also check on the mog station

shy vault
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thanks

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and how can i renew it from steam?

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obsidian patio
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All account-related stuff is done on the mogstation

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steam is simply for launching the game.

shy vault
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ok and how can i renew?

thorny spruce
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i dont think i got banned because of saying that

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I just assume it, but i guess ill just wait

polar hound
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They wouldve informed you in email im pretty sure. When i swapped from ps4>pc i was temp banned too until i changed pw, though.

quartz pivot
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Uhh guys, where does one get the 1m reward for reaching level 30?

obsidian wren
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It is highly likely you got suspended for that reason

white moth
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It's not for reaching 30 @quartz pivot

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It's level 50

obsidian wren
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If you continue that behaviour you'll probably end up permanently banned

quartz pivot
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Ohhhh.

twilit arch
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no...

quartz pivot
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All right, thanks.

twilit arch
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1mil is from getting to lvl 30 on a new world

quartz pivot
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Oh. Ohhhhhh.

twilit arch
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of which there are none

quartz pivot
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Welp.

white moth
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Wait, do I mess it up with something?

thorny spruce
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I got hacked

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The reason why I got suspended becuase I got hacked

white moth
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Right, probs the fantasia thing

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@thorny spruce Change your password through email

thorny spruce
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I did two times

polar hound
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Ope.. dont click links from strangers. Or share info.

thorny spruce
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Forum said SE blames players but multiple accounts were breached

pine bluff
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am i crazy or does this look exactly the same?

obsidian wren
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Did the person who hacked you say those things that got you suspender?

pine bluff
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trying to learn the difference between flank and rear

white moth
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You won't be banned just by having your account hacked

polar hound
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They are slightly off from each other

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Flank being side, rear behind behind.

obsidian wren
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I'd recommend enabling 2 factor verification if that is the case

thorny spruce
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@white moth didnt you see what i said? I said i reset it twice

white moth
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enable 2factor authorization as well

polar hound
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That spot is so you have minimal movement to hit both flank and rear.

pine bluff
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oh I see

polar hound
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Move 1 foot right youre flanking, one foot left youre rear-ing?

white moth
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Can you access your account on mogstation?

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Because I don't think you can reset passowrd if you're actually suspended

obsidian patio
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@shy vault just so I can look up exactly what you need, Are you trying to renew subscription or reactivating your account after cancelling it?

white moth
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I mean I don't believe that you can't use your account now if you resseted password (especially twice)

thorny spruce
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This service account is currently suspended.

white moth
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But you can still login to mogstation?

thorny spruce
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im in

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Select Service Account
FINAL FANTASY XIV 1
Account Status
This service account is currently suspended.

white moth
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Check e-mail spam folder or whatnot, they might've sent you reason why it's suspended in this case

thorny spruce
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is there a customer service phone number in this game?

obsidian patio
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yes, but not available due to the pandemic

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so only email support for now.

crimson wind
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How do I get Cruise Chaser's orchestrion roll?

white moth
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Also I hope you were joking about "heil hitler" thing

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Because it's pretty much bannable and reportable offense

obsidian patio
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@crimson wind complete all of the Alexander raid story quests

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and you'll get all the orchestrion rolls relating to the fights

thorny spruce
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i said it once

crimson wind
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normal or savage?

thorny spruce
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in praetorium

obsidian patio
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normal

crimson wind
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Ah ok

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that and Brute Justice are best things to come from Alexander series

white moth
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If enough people reported you for that it could as well lead to suspension

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Although it's really strange they didn't send you emails

crimson wind
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Are the Alexander armor sets normal or savage? The Alexandrian looks pretty good

inner heath
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guys i cant unlock quest for titan extreme how can i get it?

obsidian patio
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Prototype stuff is normal mode, non-prototype is savage

crimson wind
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Damn

twilit arch
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the normal mode is undyeable version of savage

thorny spruce
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What kind of email you want me to get? @white moth

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I only have the last one that says "You successfully reset your password" email with no links

white moth
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Nah I'm saying that normally they send out emails about suspension

obsidian patio
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@inner heath Check for the quest "Primal Nature" from Urianger in The Waking Sands in Vesper Bay or for "Gale-force Warning" in New Gridania from Vorsaile Heuloix

thorny spruce
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@white moth i got that one. It keep saying suspicious activity.

obsidian patio
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completing both of those lead to "Quake Me Up Before O'Ghomoro" from Urianger back at the waking sands

inner heath
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i will check gale force thanks

white moth
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Here we go

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God damn it

crimson wind
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I can duo AS with two people on any level 80 class right?

white moth
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Well, now the only option is to write to e-mail support. But honestly I wouldn't because you were 100% suspended for "heil hitler" and someone reporting you for that

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I think if it's your first time it might be 2 weeks 3 days

polar hound
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He said 3 days

crimson wind
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if you said that you deserve it

obsidian patio
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Alexander savage should definitely be doable with two people

crimson wind
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k

white moth
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Ah alright

next wind
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hey guys, so I was a mch in ShB trial which was quiet challenging and had 2 samurais, they kept dying and got a lot of flame for it... One healer even called one of the guys noob and told to quit the game as the sam died 8 times. refused to ress him towards the end... I know this is not normal as it's the first time I see this sort of behaviour but as I never played melee in ff14 yet, I'm a bit worried especially since I was planning to level a sam to get into melee. Is it really that much harder?

white moth
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Then I don't see any problem

obsidian patio
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though some floors might be harder or need more people due to mechanics

humble birch
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Sam isn't difficult

crimson wind
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Melee isnt necessarily harder, those SAMs are probably just trash

humble birch
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but that healer is being a real pos

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or new

next wind
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hmm okay so they were quiet bad then?

crimson wind
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True as it may be, don't be an ass about it

humble birch
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bad is subjective

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you would be bad if you were trying a class that wasn't your main

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there are bad healers and tanks

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What you should do is try and help them

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if possible

magic light
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is there a do and don't for flamethrower

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i remember seeing one

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or am i misremembering things

humble birch
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but really don't be an ass at all

next wind
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there is a mch guide, soemone knows the command I think

obsidian patio
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Use it in AoE for 2+ targets.

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The potency looks low, but it actually hits every second or so.

thorny spruce
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"Based upon recent suspicious activity, we have identified that your account may potentially be at risk. For your protection, we have temporarily suspended login access to this account." @white moth is that the one youre looking for

next wind
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in the guide it explains that flamethrower for 3+ targets is better than spread shot but worse than the auto crossbow

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iirc

thorny spruce
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theres no illegal activity in my account

magic light
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spreadshot at 2+ targets, that's new

crimson wind
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Yeah it's not illegal but it is suspicious

white moth
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@thorny spruce Where did it say that it was 3 days of suspension?

thorny spruce
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forum

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i just sent ticket

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imma watch netflix for now

white moth
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Ok. So there are 2 types of "suspension". The one you get immediately on your login either on launcher or mogstation. This one lifts by just resetting your password (you just posted that message), happens if you change your location, use VPN or whatnot.

Another one is breaking rules, first offense is 3 days, then 10 then 20 days.

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What do you mean forum

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What forum

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So it didn't say in the e-mail?

crystal badger
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rear = side right?

white moth
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Rear behind

crystal badger
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no

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thats flank

white moth
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Flank is side

crystal badger
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im dumb

white moth
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rear is behind

crystal badger
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yeah i just got it

white moth
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Good thumbsup

thorny spruce
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im not suspended becuase of hitler

crystal badger
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that was embarrassing

white moth
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Did you use VPN?

thorny spruce
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i used format

white moth
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Did you login through another PC (even if it's yours)

polar hound
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Reformatted

white moth
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I don't think it triggers suspension if it's same PC but reformatted

thorny spruce
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SE is sensitive when you change IP (ie log in to somewhere else)

white moth
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Yeah I know about it, that's why I asked

polar hound
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Change pw shouldve solved that though

white moth
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Because I don't want to backread 1000 messages up, just to clear it up

thorny spruce
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@polar hound oh geez

polar hound
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When i swapped ps4>pc i just changed pw and was back at it

white moth
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When I swapped from PC to PS4 and back it didn't personally ask me to change it because same network :x

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I just found posts of people claiming they got suspicious activity and changing password wouldn't let them in

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I guess there's no live chat either?

thorny spruce
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im in airport right now, im using airport's IP address when I just got my laptop restart

polar hound
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Same network here too, maybe cause it was my first time on pc with xiv? Not sure, dont matter anymore tho haha

rich bay
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@white moth

There is no livechat atm, you know "that" virus......

forest glen
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Can someone tell me the music in this place?

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(Heavy SB raid spoilers)

agile laurel
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Probably better suited for balance but so as to not put an idiot question there - if the optimal PLD rotation under Requiescat is x5 holy/x4 holy - confit, why does literally no pld I've come across do this?

white moth
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@rich bay Yeah that's why I put "I guess". But yeah, shit happens

rich bay
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@forest glen

||Omega M/F|| theme

white moth
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@agile laurel Because they pull with it?

forest glen
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It's not that one, Dreamy

obsidian patio
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For the waiting area itself it's the first phase of Shinryu

forest glen
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Oh! Yes i knew it was familiar

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Thanks @obsidian patio

obsidian patio
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bit of a weird theme to choose tbh

agile laurel
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but why? even if I see a pld in DF pop requiescat on trash they just do nothing

obsidian patio
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thinking back on it

agile laurel
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while I don't see why they wouldn't x4 holy circle confit

white moth
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If you pull with Holy you have enough mana to regenerate durning that little 5 second window before you pop requiescat to then use confiteor

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That's question not for this channel

agile laurel
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I mean the answer could well be DF heroes and they're all just doing it wrong

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but yeah

white moth
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You should be asking those people

agile laurel
#

true

#

they all don't say anything and leave

#

but yeah

#

doesn't really matter

white moth
#

But if you wanted confirmation on if it should be 5 holy/confiteor - yes, all the time

agile laurel
#

right. in that case I'll treat it as they're doing it wrong, context factored in

rich bay
#

Ah okay.

white moth
#

It would depend on who you have in your party. If you got someone who boosts your phys attack - use fight or flight combo

obsidian patio
#

I think there's a bit of min-maxing with sometimes using 3 holy+confiteor because otherwise the PLD rotation naturally drifts by 3 seconds.

white moth
#

If you got someone who boosts magic attack - use requiescat combo

agile laurel
#

Well, that specific instance was qitana ravel with a mnk and ast present, but I honestly don't believe they were thinking that much

white moth
#

But in dungeons it's usually requiescat because of holy circle straight away

rich bay
#

@forest glen

The name of that music piece Wynne is referring to is "The Worm's Tail"

hot dock
#

anyone having trouble buying stuff off mogstation?

#

getting a 401 on my side

magic light
#

what's a someone who boosts magic attack

obsidian patio
#

Only magical damage? I don't think any of them do.

agile laurel
#

ast, off the top of my head

rich bay
#

@hot dock

401 means a client side error, clear your cookies or try a different browser.

agile laurel
#

but beside that

#

i don't think there's anything like brotherhood or embolden for magical though

magic light
#

wouldn't embolden for tanks be physical dmg?

young fjord
#

Paladins deal a ton of magic damage

hot dock
#

@rich bay It doesn't make sense

#

I just cleared my cache

#

even did incognito

#

nothing

young fjord
#

Mogstation under heavy load in EU currently due to new items and fantasia sale

#

Several of my FC members are unable to buy things there

hot dock
#

it should have been 500

#

not 401 for status

young fjord
#

@magic light Peculiar Light make everyone take 30% more magical damage

obsidian patio
#

Blue Mage though

rich bay
#

@hot dock

HTTP code 401 means Unauthorized that means there is a bad login request or the login cookie in the browser cache failed.

Incognito mode doesn't work because some login cookies doesn't persist in that mode.

hot dock
#

I've tried it on a different computer on 3 different browsers

#

it's definitely server side

#

also if I'm logged in it doesn't add up what am I unauthorized from?

young fjord
#

One friend had to wait around 6h before he got the peacock mount in the mail after he bought it

rich bay
#

From Wikipedia:

"401 Unauthorized (RFC 7235)"
Similar to 403 Forbidden, but specifically for use when authentication is required and has failed or has not yet been provided. The response must include a WWW-Authenticate header field containing a challenge applicable to the requested resource.
Note: Some sites incorrectly issue HTTP 401 when an IP address is banned from the website (usually the website domain) and that specific address is refused permission to access a website.
hot dock
#

if he had to wait that long it should be 500

rich bay
#

@hot dock , can you try the Square Enix shop?

hot dock
#

what's that

#

also fyi

rich bay
hot dock
#

my inputs are done via copy paste

#

so it can't be wrong

rich bay
#

Uses the same credentials as your FF14 account.

young fjord
#

I think seekheart is NA

hot dock
#

yea I am

rich bay
#

You can change region in top right.

hot dock
#

like I logged in fine

#

I don't have anything in there I want to buy

#

again I'm copy pasting my creds

#

and my credit card info as well

#

so it doesn't add up

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hot dock
#

something that worked last time not working now makes no sense

young fjord
#

I'd say just try later tonight

#

Items are not going anywhere and sale should still be on

rich bay
hot dock
#

also 4XX means the client messed something up, but again how can I mess something up that is copy paste, and I just bought stuff off amazon with?

rich bay
#

401 is not server side, like all 4xx status codes.

hot dock
#

it should definitely have been 5XX

#

I'm saying that error they sent

#

it should have been 5XX not 4XX

#

they are using the codes wrong

rich bay
#

Wikipedia does note that there are sites that produce that code when the IP-adress is flagged.

hot dock
#

also I can't buy mogstation stuff off that square enix store

#

it doesn't work for me

#

my IP address isn't flagged since I can switch my proxy

rich bay
#

Seekheart, it is just to check if you can login at all.

hot dock
#

I can

#

like I'm logged in already to begin with

rich bay
#

That is your problem, the proxy.

hot dock
#

I've done it with and without

#

it isn't the issue

rich bay
#

@tender estuary

young fjord
#

Is becuase you are using a proxy they might have flagged you? If they get connections from different locations they might think you been hacked or something

rich bay
#

Possible.

hot dock
#

it doesn't make sense

#

like how would they also know my other pc?

young fjord
#

Like if I connect from Sweden, and the next time I connect from India they thing something is wrong

hot dock
#

The locations are both the same region of the country

#

which would share same geo ip

young fjord
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

hot dock
#

I'm gonna wait it

young fjord
#

Just throwing out things that comes to mind

hot dock
#

my gf had same problem yesterday

#

she just waited a few hours and it resolved somehow...

#

my only complaint is that their error page is wrong

#

cause it isn't client that messesd up it's their server being overwhelmed or something

rich bay
#

401 mogstation error (not HTTP) can also mean that payment went wrong.

Even the same region can cause a flagged ip-adress. (Because the DNS resolver on the server side can't determine if it is the same user.)

hot dock
#

Their site uses a cookie login session

#

that would mean when I logged in (do this first to buy stuff), the server doesn't trust the cookie it issued lol

#

401 mogstation error is interesting

rich bay
#

Seekheart, the cookie can be made invalid by the server if there is some strange stuff going on according to the server security.
(Like changing IP-adress or proxies.)

That means you need to wait it out.

quartz pivot
#

So uhh, when doing MSQ as a scholar, should I revert back to Arcanist to dps?

hot dock
#

no?

#

scholar is a super set of arcanist

quartz pivot
#

Hmm... it doesn't have as many dps skills tho

#

Like, if I'm soloing msq wouldn't that just makes things slower?

hot dock
#

that's where your chocobo comes in

#

I mean healer will be slow to kill stuff

#

but that's just how it is

magic light
#

i'm gonna weed out habits i think that are questionable as a mch here.
should I be using gcds like drill and hotshot in large pulls?

quartz pivot
#

So I should buy the greens item thingy to make my chocobo fight?

#

Where do I get those?

magic light
#

in ARR, a few specific vendors

young fjord
#

At lvl 72 you get Bioblaster

#

This will replace drill on AoE pulls

magic light
#

vague answer, city hubs

#

should I still be using drill and hotshot under 72?

quartz pivot
#

All right, I'll look for those then. So I'll have to rely on chocobos for my dps here on out?

magic light
#

in pulls

#

no, you rely on your chocobo to keep you alive

young fjord
#

Drill and Hotshot is 700 and 300 Potency

open solstice
#

Hi on free trial version I can't create Au Ra , Horthgar or Viera?

young fjord
#

Are you able to deal more damage with Spread Shot?

#

180Pot

twilit arch
#

correct, they're expansion races

magic light
#

I'd say yes, but I'd still feel the want to send them off to cooldown

young fjord
#

I have not done the math, but im pretty sure hot shot is worth using as it gives 20 battery, which can fuel your auto crossbow mech

open solstice
#

possible to change race/faces etc later on if I were to buy the complete edition? or I have to make a new char

crimson wind
#

yes

#

you get a free character remake but then it's 10$

magic light
#

battery fuels rook

twilit arch
#

you're given a free fantasia when you complete the main scenario quest "The Ultimate weapon"

#

which lets you edit your character

young fjord
#

Drill is 700 Potency, Spread is 180Pot*number of targets, so if you have 4 or more targets then spread shot is more value

next jay
#

hmm so i'm in dillema.. should i keep my jp char in tonberry or should i make a new char in na server?

crimson wind
#

Yeah but Drills an OGCD

open solstice
#

ah cool! good to know 😄 thanks guys

crimson wind
#

Why wouldn't you use it

next jay
#

how big is the en community in tonberry?

twilit arch
#

no drill is not

crimson wind
#

oh

twilit arch
#

drill is a gcd

magic light
#

it's a GCD with a timer

crimson wind
#

Well still use it

#

700 pot is extremely good

magic light
#

I'm wondering if it's worth building up battery over a spreadshot

young fjord
#

720potency or more is still more damage even tho 700 potency is extreamly good

twilit arch
#

you're not going to be using drill on AoE unless its <4 targets

#

because spreadshot at 4 is 720

young fjord
#

Spread shot also gives heat

twilit arch
#

spread shot is 5heat, whereas hot shot is 20

#

so i think hot shot is worth using on cd but i'm not 100% sure

magic light
#

isn't hotshot battery

#

or is it a trait

#

that i've not seen

young fjord
#

!action hot shot

twilit arch
#

er

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twilit arch
#

battery, sorry my bad

magic light
#

that was confusing

twilit arch
#

yeah sorry little tired

trail bramble
#

which mount is harder to get kamuy fife or Lanner Whistle?

twilit arch
#

they're both pretty easy to unsync these days

jade quartz
#

about the same really

crimson wind
#

You need PF for dogs

leaden ginkgo
#

does it matter if i pick the chaos or light datacenters?

young fjord
#

No one is difficult to get, but kamuy fights tend to be longer with mechanics

crimson wind
#

bird you can solo

young fjord
#

@leaden ginkgo About the same, but on Chaos there are more French, on Light there are more Germans

trail bramble
#

is it worth it for moogle exchange

warped nest
#

For getting mounts with moogle exchange, we recommend Ixion

#

Assuming Ixion is still available

forest laurel
#

ixion is still available yeah

#

get ixion asap, because otherwise he is a bitch to get

magic light
#

what's ixion

forest laurel
#

a mount

young fjord
#

@leaden ginkgo Louisoix and moogle on Chaos is unofficual french servers

warped nest
#

Ixion is Angry lightning unicorn zebra

magic light
#

requirements for getting ixion normally

young fjord
#

Shiva on light is unofficial german server

twilit arch
#

a world boss fate

#

specifically the world boss is....ixion

forest laurel
warped nest
#

You need to catch a unmarked FATE to spawn in the last zone in Stormblood

twilit arch
#

so out of the mounts, ixion is the more tedious one to get

leaden ginkgo
#

I think ill pick light then, thanks

trail bramble
#

i see

#

dang it's so ugly though 😦

young fjord
#

imo ixion is the easiest one

trail bramble
#

LOL

young fjord
#

As it have 100% drop rate

forest laurel
#

ixion is badass wdym

magic light
#

ye, ixion's pretty ugly

forest laurel
trail bramble
#

even on ffx i hated him

twilit arch
#

I mean if you can catch the fate, yes

forest laurel
#

you just have no taste in mounts fuzz

crimson wind
#

You need to do the FATE 4 times

trail bramble
#

last summon i use

magic light
#

yeah

#

i probably have no taste in mounts

forest laurel
#

2 times*

leaden ginkgo
#

How long will it take til i reach the point where it is worth for me to buy the shadowwarriors expac?

young fjord
#

You only need to do fate 2 times, not 4

magic light
#

all i like is korporkurr kolossus

crimson wind
#

what

warped nest
#

2 times is still too much imo

young fjord
#

6horn for gold rank, 12 to buy mount

crimson wind
#

the horn is 12 horns

twilit arch
#

but that assumes you are in a linkshell or discord that calls out the fates

forest laurel
#

4 times if you're doing absolutely nothing in the fate

crimson wind
#

I got 3

#

And I was doing damage

twilit arch
#

then you didn't get gold credit

forest laurel
#

then your group did nothing compared to other groups.

crimson wind
#

I was solo

twilit arch
#

that would be whyt

warped nest
#

Yeah, that will do it

forest laurel
#

then you did nothing compared to groups KEKW get in a party

crimson wind
twilit arch
#

always always be in a group for world boss fates

#

same with hunts

forest laurel
#

you ALWAYS get in a party for world boss fates.

young fjord
forest laurel
#

that way you ensure that you get the best reward

crimson wind
forest laurel
#

people are always shouting "inv pls" for world boss fates or hunts.

young fjord
#

Atleast on EU everyone spam the /sh with lfp groups when you enter the zone

#

is it not like that on NA?

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

magic light
#

oh right, there was something I noticed while doing a boss fate

inland delta
#

I noticed the itinerant moogle had things to sell for tomestones of soldiery. I'm guessing that was a currency from the previous event, and isn't available anymore, right?

magic light
#

I put up a partyfinder and people were still LFP in chat, so I invite them to the party

obsidian patio
#

Yep

magic light
#

It failed

#

why is this

#

not one, but multiple people

forest laurel
#

because no one uses party finder for world boss fates.

obsidian patio
#

Generally means someone sent them an invite first but they haven’t accepted yet

forest laurel
#

also that

obsidian patio
#

Also I sometimes see PF used to announce the world boss fates

magic light
#

I've seen a few for Coeurlregina

forest laurel
#

huh.
guess that's what happens when I don't use PF for literally anything KEKW

magic light
#

and definitely odin

#

and those shb ones

forest laurel
#

then again I'm not doing any kind of PF-y content like savages and extremes

young fjord
#

the alexander fate boss you can instakill with bluemage and then no one else get any kill credit

magic light
#

alexander fate boss?

forest laurel
#

wot

#

first time I'm hearing of this

young fjord
#

yeah the Coeurlregina

forest laurel
#

wait how's that related to alexander

magic light
#

why name it alexander fate boss instead of HWS fate boss?

forest laurel
#

yeah

magic light
#

that would be very confusing

young fjord
#

it have that alexander panel thing next to it

magic light
#

wat

faint flare
#

Cause theres sometimes multiple fate bosses

#

For that expansion

young fjord
#

with 3 adds connected to it

magic light
#

wat

forest laurel
#

I'm even more confused now

#

"alexander panel thing"

young fjord
#

No wait

#

This fate

#

That FATE you can instakill with blue mage and no one else get kill credit

misty talon
#

does anyone know a good WAR rotation al lvl 50?

#

at*

faint flare
#

Put storm eye up, spam path until eye falls off

#

Sprinkle in inner beasts

#

And thats it

#

It basically doesn't change much

misty talon
#

ok

faint flare
#

Berserk when you're full/near full gauge and near a combo ender to get higher damaging hits under zerk and infuriate during it for another dhc inner beast

misty talon
#

thx

rich bay
#

@young fjord

The enemy itself is L59, so L5 death won't work and Tail Screw has a low chance to work before you get KO yourself. (The enemy can hurt!)

faint flare
#

Just missile it with multiple blues all at once for the insta ko

rich bay
#

Missle also has a low hit chance.

faint flare
#

Thats why you have multiple blues do it

#

And its actually surprising how much it does proc

#

Personally

crimson wind
#

how hard is TEA?

#

Does it live up to the ultimate status

faint flare
#

Yes it does

#

Wormhole formation is one of the hardest mechanics in the game

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crimson wind
#

hm

faint flare
#

And ofc nisi shengains OMEGALUL

crimson wind
#

Nisi?

faint flare
#

Yes

crimson wind
#

tf

#

is that

faint flare
#

Its a debuff from the Alexander raids

crimson wind
#

Lemme guess

faint flare
#

If you have 2 different nisi, you instantly die

crimson wind
#

it kills you?

faint flare
#

And there's 4 nisis you need to pass around and keep for 2 minutes

crimson wind
#

hm

#

probably not doing that.

faint flare
#

While doing other mechanics that force you to get close to each other

#

And losing one will wipe you due to gavel

#

As gavel requires people to have specific nisis when it is cast

crimson wind
#

yeahhh I'm not going to do TEA for a loooooong while

faint flare
#

Or you wipe

#

People sink hundreds of hours into ultimates

crimson wind
#

those weapons thoooooo

forest laurel
#

good luck getting them KEKW

#

my FC leader has been doing UCoB for a month now or so and he's close to beating it now

faint flare
#

Tfw 4 months later and slowly getting through wormhole playdead only 6mins left of the fight

crimson wind
#

also I need help forming a strat for tit EX adds

#

I just

#

can't get past it

faint flare
#

East, north, west

#

In that order

#

Of killing

crimson wind
#

so tanks get north and west while DPS start at east and move on?

faint flare
#

East add does as aoe based on current HP

#

So needs to die quickly

crimson wind
#

also Puck has a tankbuster right?

faint flare
#

Both north and west do yes

crimson wind
#

ok

oak ice
#

North adds a stacking blunt damage taken debuff, so it needs to be dealt with after the tree

inner heath
#

guys ppl told me that i can purchase shirogane style permits and put it in mist but i cant seem to fnd it available only 3 syles i can buy

silver vessel
#

How do I join the novice club?

oak ice
#

Need to be invited by a mentor

#

So if you see someone with a crown icon mentor, ask them to invite you

silver vessel
#

ahh ok

#

any benefits apart from badge?

oak ice
#

There are no benefits to it other than being able to ask players globally about stuff

#

Bear in mind that some servers have a less than good reputation, so don't feel down if it's not what you expect it to be

rich bay
#

Yeah, some Novice Networks are used as a private global chat by mentors.

midnight slate
#

Is there a limit to how much I can transfer in a certain period of time
Like after you transfer you have to wait a certain amount of days

oak ice
#

3 days for standard servers, I think it was 30 for preferred? Maybe longer?

forest lark
#

How are savage content diff? Do bosses just have bigger hp, or actually more new mechanics that are not in normal modes?

oak ice
#

More HP, hits harder, new mechanics

#

Different spins on normal mode mechanics

proud willow
#

Savage content has significantly more complex mechanics and allows for far fewer mistakes

faint flare
#

There's barely any aoe markers as well

forest lark
#

Oh sounds like its not for me

#

Yet

faint flare
#

Savage is a test of memory

#

And skill

forest lark
#

So i need to be rrally, realy good to do savage content?

warped nest
#

It is a long string of mechanical dance moves with 8 party member

#

Practice rotation until it is as natural as breathing + acute situation awareness

faint flare
#

You need to know your rotation and be able to know what to do when the boss casts something

oak ice
#

Nah, lol, just a willingness to learn should be enough

faint flare
#

Like i said, its a test of memory as the boss does the exact same thing everytine

#

With little variation

#

And any variations have rules it follows

forest lark
#

Hmm I see

oak ice
#

Few exceptions, like O9S being 50/50 in which pattern it starts with

#

But it will still go through both

faint flare
#

And any variations have rules it follows

forest lark
#

I guess I'm not confident enough for savage xd

tranquil valve
#

No shame for that. I, personally, will only do the occasional Extreme.

oak ice
#

Have you tried extreme trials? They're the inbetween difficulty for normal raids and savage

tranquil valve
#

I just don't have the patience and spare time to spend it on Savage.

forest lark
#

I tried, but the queues are long for extreme, unless Im doing it wrong and should look under Party Finder instead

faint flare
#

Always party finder

#

For extremes, savage, ultimate, minsitral ballad or binding coils content

tranquil valve
#

I know on the NA data centers that they're primarily done through Party Finder.

topaz furnace
#

Hey quick question, I just purchased the ARR standard, can I buy a 30 day subscription to extend it to 60 days?

faint flare
#

Only JP really does Higher end content through DF but those are for people who already cleared

#

Yes, sub time stacks

topaz furnace
#

So 30 days free + 30 day subscription right?

faint flare
#

Yes

topaz furnace
#

Im kinda wondering how do I purchase it from SE Mogstation since I'm from the philippines

#

They're asking for an address

forest lark
#

What is Manufactured Coin for from Copied Factory? I don't see any vendors for that

faint flare
#

Buying upgrade mats in eulmore

#

Girl next to the tome vendor does it

#

Wonderous sundries or something

forest lark
#

Ah I see, Ill have to check that out cause I do have quite a lot now haha

#

I almost discarded it the other day

#

They should put some more description to the items

faint flare
#

Do note you'll need them next patch

agile laurel
#

Dumb question, what materia level does augmented scaevan take? Sorry if there's a resource for this somewhere

faint flare
#

As the coin from the new 24man is traded with the manufacted coin to purchase upgrade items for allegory stuff

forest lark
#

So i should probably keep aaving them up?

faint flare
#

Yes

#

Unless you wanna upgrade Phantasmagora gear for whatever reason

vagrant copper
#

@topaz furnace I don't know specifics but I've heard that a decent amount of people straight up lie about their address to make accounts and subscriptions. As long as your payment can go through, it doesn't particularly matter.

topaz furnace
#

Got it! Thank you @vagrant copper !! ❤️

agile laurel
#

Other question - i assume culinarian mainly pulls from btn and fsh?

little swift
#

Some from miner too for salts and such but yes

wintry chasm
#

Mostly BTN really

agile laurel
#

Mostly? Oh good

#

I ask only cause I have btn maxed and the other 2 not even touched lmfao

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dry ocean
#

Ive defeated ramuh- how far am I from the Heavensward expansion?

clever cave
#

Barely

vagrant copper
#

That's like... somewhere around the half-way point between ARR and HW maybe?

dry ocean
#

Still far??????

#

Lmao

jade quartz
#

That's patch 2.3

#

You have two more patches to go before HW.

wintry chasm
#

^

#

And 2.4 and 2.5 are really big Heavensward set up patches

#

One could argue you are just about getting into the Heavensward story?

jolly granite
#

Hi ,how to change character apperance on a created charatcer?

dusky nest
#

you need to buy a fantasia

#

unless you mean simple stuff like changing hairstyles etc

jolly granite
#

ye i know but i mean the whole customization

dry ocean
#

2 more patches so aroun 200 fetch quest

dusky nest
#

thats locked behind a fantasia on the mogstation.
you do get one for free when you beat the lvl 50 MSQ

faint flare
#

Nah. Like 40

jolly granite
#

heard about item called fantasia

#

but dont know how to obtain

dusky nest
#

well i just told you

dry ocean
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Dollar

faint flare
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You buy via Mogstation

jolly granite
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ohh okey

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didnt see

dry ocean
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Spend dollar on it

faint flare
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You do get 1 via main story

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But after that you gotta pay

dry ocean
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I heard its an addiction. I can nowe see why

faint flare
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You can change a few pieces of character appearance via the aesthetician, which unlocks in limsa

jolly granite
faint flare
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Which only costs gil

weary umbra
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your first one is free after completing a realm reborn

faint flare
forest laurel
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glasses gang let's go

faint flare
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Glass gang crabrave

jolly granite
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yeah

dry ocean
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Is fantasy tradable?

faint flare
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Fantasia no

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You can gift the item to someone when buying it

dry ocean
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Well, that’s not nice.

jolly granite
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the main story line must be done only once ?

faint flare
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Yes

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Can only do story oncr

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Well

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You can do New game plus

dry ocean
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There’s a new game plus right?

jolly granite
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so if i create another char i purely go and grind monsters

faint flare
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Yo replay parts

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But no rewards

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New characters do story again

dry ocean
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Thats ok

jolly granite
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till dung are unlocked

faint flare
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Progress is character based

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For new jobs, you do hunting logs/palace of the dead to get up to the first dungeons

dry ocean
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Question!

jolly granite
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thanks

dry ocean
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Are jobs that are available on level50 starts at level1?

agile laurel
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no

faint flare
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No

dry ocean
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Nice

agile laurel
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but nor do they start at 50

faint flare
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Rdm and sam start at 50

agile laurel
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wait don't they start at 30

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or am i an idiot

faint flare
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Drk, astro and mch start at 30

agile laurel
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Ugh that's it

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mkay

dry ocean
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So gunbreaker and dncer starts at 60?

faint flare
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Yes

dry ocean
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Darknight is on ishgard rigth?

faint flare
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Yes

agile laurel
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however it's also IN ishgard so it's pseudo-gated by MSQ

dry ocean
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Ahh- well. Im just 40 fetch quest away. Wont complain

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Im liking the post Arr msq than the base arr

wild terrace
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ive been level super fast been leaving Dungeon search active while doing main story at the same time. About 30 hours to lvl 38

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Wondering what class to pick up next however some ppl seem to aim at maxing all of them

faint flare
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Whatever you like the look of 🤷‍♂️

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Maybe another role so you get experience of it

little swift
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No harm in trying them all

dry ocean
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Blue mage caps at 60???

faint flare
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For now

dry ocean
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Not nice

wild terrace
dry ocean
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How is the blue mage?

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Compared to the other mages

faint flare
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Its side content

agile laurel
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mainly cause blu can significantly punch up so if they brought it near current content

dry ocean
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Ok

faint flare
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And can do some pretty dumb stuff

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Like insta kill shit

agile laurel
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'pretty dumb'

dry ocean
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Ohh ok

faint flare
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Blue mage can clear aurum vale in 6mins

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Which is basically half the standard time

dry ocean
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What about red mage?

agile laurel
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red mage's okay

faint flare
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Its fine

proud willow
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and on the other hand, a BLU who hasn't gone and learned the important spells (or doesn't know how to utilize them) will have much lower damage than a normal DPS

agile laurel
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blu by design is significantly broken, that's why it's in the kneecapped position it is as a limited job

dry ocean
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In terms of dps - black mage is the best out of them?

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Utility wise?

agile laurel
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utility wise, absolute no

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blm is by design utility-less but chonky numbers

vagrant copper
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BLM has utility?

agile laurel
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it's a selfish dps

wild terrace
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at what lvl does endgame content max at ? For example in other games you want to reach the final class in order to do more dmg. Does it scale here or is endgame lvl 60 ?

agile laurel
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BLM and SAM are by class design powerhouses that bring absolutely nothing to the group beside that

little swift
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Endgame is 80 at this time

dry ocean
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Ahhh- I still have question. ill ask after this guy^

little swift
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But there is "endgame" content at 50 60 70 as well

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Just ask

wild terrace
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its ok i just ask random things since im new and not much makes sense

hardy lichen
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how do people haave different icons in their names? ive seen people with an RP, with a leaf, a wierd chair? idk what that is

dry ocean
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Leaf is for newbies thank you

little swift
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They right click themselves and edit search info

faint flare
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They're tags you can edit in your search info

little swift
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Chair is afk

hardy lichen
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oh i see, ty c:

dry ocean
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Lemme ask about tanks!!!

agile laurel
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ask about tanks

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there are some

faint flare
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They're all very close to each other

dry ocean
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Gun > Drk> Warrior

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X padalin for now-

clever cave
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?

agile laurel
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sad pld noises

faint flare
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Paladin is like second if we're being pedantic

dry ocean
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Compare the 3

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Except pala

jade quartz
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Tanks are well-balanced.

agile laurel
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very sad paladin noises

jade quartz
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Everything's well-balanced

hardy lichen
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anyone can be a tank, you just have to believe in yourself, grab that aggro as a black mage and assert yout dominance

jade quartz
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compared to other MMOs out there

wild terrace
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its ok other games make their paladins op as heck

little swift
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Keep shitposting to a minimum here emu thanks

jade quartz
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everything is viable.

dry ocean
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Paladin is a traditional tank: i want something tha inst traditional. You know. Tanks without shield

faint flare
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Gnb is a tank that is lowkey a dps...warrior is too angry to die with big boy numbers...dark is edgy warrior

agile laurel
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in that case, war i'd say

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pld has a mitigation-spending resource

jade quartz
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(You can glamour the shield invisible btw)

agile laurel
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war has a dps spending resource

wild terrace
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paladin is not exactly your traditional tank , he is more between warrior and tank

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ultimate tanks tend to have broad armor the weapon may differ

dry ocean
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In terms of looks he is

agile laurel
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paladin spends resource on mitigation and leans heavily towards a more supporting role

dry ocean
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I wanna pounds primals with ma big ass weapon. Not bash it will a shield

agile laurel
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such as being the only one with a targeted heal

jade quartz
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uh hold up

faint flare
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Aurora

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And nascent are target heals

jade quartz
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PLD doesn't use its targeted heal in 99% of situations

dry ocean
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He has that cool wing shield thing

jade quartz
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it's for soloing.

dry ocean
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I admit its coo

agile laurel
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ah yeah that's my level 0 gnb speaking

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my bad

wild terrace
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however to me all tanks in this game feel like paladin , in D&D terms paladin has less dmg output than warrior but also better defense and support buffs.

agile laurel
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dmg output is fairly similar

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but you're also right on that front

jade quartz
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Tanks are balanced.

topaz furnace
dry ocean
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Im use all of the tank. Worry not.

agile laurel
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warrior has some pretty solid mitigation but it also has the really nasty satisfying dps abilities

dry ocean
#

Just wondering what tank should I start

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Same with each roles

little swift
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Whichever you're thinking is cooler

jade quartz
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I would recommend only buying digital from Square Enix store or Steam/PSN

agile laurel
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well only gla/pld and mrd/war are available from the get-go, but honestly i'd just go for which you prefer the look of

slate arrow
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@topaz furnace wouldn't recommend it but it's your money /shrug

dry ocean
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Well, tbh warrior=gunbreak

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Cant decide which to start

proud willow
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it's not possible to start as a Gunbreaker, so I guess that makes your choice easy

little swift
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War starts at lvl 1

agile laurel
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did you say whether you were cool with waiting for drk/gnb?

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cause that's a difference

dry ocean
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Drknght> too edgy for now

little swift
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You can st art gnb once you hit 60

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And own shb

agile laurel
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if you don't wanna wait and want to start at level one, your options are warrior or paladin (in their base forms)

dry ocean
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Im coo with that- setting goals to achieve

agile laurel
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and since you're not a fan of sword and board style

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seems you're down to warrior or gunbreaker

little swift
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You're pretty close to dark Knight too

agile laurel
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yeah but they said that was too edgy

little swift
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Since youre a couple patches from hw

dry ocean
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Noo- darknight- too edgy

clever cave
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Just start playing the available choices...

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Can switch any time

little swift
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The storyline is good though

agile laurel
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then in that case i'd say get marauder and start warrior, learn tanking as a role

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then grab gunbreaker when you come to it?

pine bluff
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is there some kind of shortcut to transfer from your item to retainer's items (when you have the retainer's item window also open)

dry ocean
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Ohh- can also do that

clever cave
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Like right click move to retainer?

agile laurel
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the role of tank doesn't vary hugely in concept between them

dry ocean
#

How long does it take to level a new job?

agile laurel
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depends

pine bluff
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@clever cave like that, but... faster.. I gotta transfer loads of stuff lol

clever cave
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No other way

dry ocean
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Lets say i play 16hours a day with an hour break evry 6 hours

agile laurel
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there's a website detailing quickest leveling guides but i don't have it to hand

dry ocean
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Well?

faint flare
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!faq altlvlguide

zinc orbitBOT
agile laurel
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ah

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thank

dry ocean
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Thats nicee

jade quartz
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Average DPS ratings for the tanks are something like GNB > PLD > WAR ≈ DRK

dry ocean
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Thanksssss

jade quartz
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if you really wanna know

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but they're very close.

dry ocean
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Felt emo might delete later

agile laurel
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but that also requires you to be playing at the bleeding edge of your game, in order to hit your class ceiling

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before that it's a bit less relevant

wintry chasm
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Also barely relevant anyway

agile laurel
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also true

clever cave
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Id say its never relevant lol

agile laurel
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it's the top few % of minmaxing

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and thus much more profitable to work on getting good

dry ocean
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I dont follow sir

jade quartz
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!faq meta

zinc orbitBOT
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Meta Jobs FAQ
Info

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

Click here for the best jobs in the game though

agile laurel
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basically - while that dps ranking of tanks is probably accurate, it won't make much difference unless you're playing at the top of the skill level

pine bluff
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whats the difference between selling your trash items yourself vs having retainer selling it? (not on the market board)

agile laurel
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playing gnb does not automatically make you do more dps than a war

jade quartz
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@pine bluff "Have retainer sell items" is just shortcut to vendoring your items from retainer menu.