@obsidian patio i mean like b4 scaevan was introduced? or scaevan already out during 4.2 or 4.3?
#questions-and-help
rough lance
desert ravine
okay wow, didnt think it's that easy. i'll do it later after finishing HW lancer quests
floral harness
hi, I need help, I transferred over to the PS4 version because of the free 30 days and I can't see my quests on the minimap anymore
I swear on the PC version there were icons on the minimap pointing to the destinations and now they're gone
crystal shoal
which one is easier to play as for a new tank, gun breaker or DK?
obsidian patio
They only show on the minimap if they’re in your current zone
warped nest
Iirc, the quests need to be active and on the duty list
obsidian patio
@rough lance Scaevan was the 4.4 tomestone gear. If I’m understanding you right, you’re wanting to get gear that’s equal to the starting stuff for the next expansion?
floral harness
they are active
but I guess I'm not in the right zone
also christ the ps4 controller mapping is awful I'm plugging in a keyboard and mouse
obsidian patio
If so then the Alphascape normal gear and Rakshasa crafted set are only slightly weaker than the baseline ShB level 70 crafted set (i380 vs i385)
uncut kernel
Is there anyone whos willing to walk me through the first hour of the game?
rough lance
err sort of LOL more like i thinking of skipping 5.4 raids, meaning to say i farm til 5.3 and stop, either wait for another "scaevan" eq or skip til 6.0
frank wigeon
hey is there a way to move my characters mogstation costumes and move it to anotther character then delete it?
obsidian patio
Nope
rough lance
y 2 mths o.o
faint flare
For the catch up stuff
frank wigeon
thank you wynee
warped nest
You catch up with 5.X and can farm some endgame tomestone which would be capped at 900 per week then
obsidian patio
They raise the weekly tomestone cap before the next expansion to 900 to help with gearing up in preparation
rough lance
well i'm jus thinking whether i can stay at 5.3 content and skip til 6..0
warped nest
Yes
rough lance
oo
warped nest
I took a 18 month long pause between HW and SB
rough lance
since 5.3 coming soon.. mayb i jus wait for 5.3 instead of trying to rush eden verse savage content?
thinking of augment crystarium or jus wait 5.3 and see how it goes
rough lance
haha i dunno if 5.3 will hav new non savage raids that are better than crystarium
faint flare
It wont
faint flare
And 24man
rough lance
oh
rough lance
so there's no new stuff on eden's
obsidian patio
Extreme trial weapon will be i495
rough lance
oh... means 5.4 will hav new edens
faint flare
Yes
rough lance
i see
rough lance
hmmm
mint jasper
good evening
rough lance
so... 5.3 will hav new stuff that makes things easier to augment crystatrium right?
faint flare
Yes
little swift
Yes
mint jasper
how can i get the primal shiny weapons?
little swift
Crafted
rough lance
now i know what to do haha
faint flare
The coin from the 24man can be traded with the coin from copied factory to upgrade armour and accessories
little swift
Market board
mint jasper
what class? of dom?
faint flare
And later weapons just before 5.4
rough lance
oh means i need to farm mroe coins
faint flare
The coin from the new raid will be weekly locked
rough lance
currently ythe coins only can upgrade deepshadow
little swift
To craft the weapons?
mint jasper
yeh
little swift
Usually blacksmith or carpenter
rough lance
ohh u meat the new raid that drop coin will b able to upgrade crystarium not the coin from copied?
faint flare
You'll need both
little swift
A couple are alchemist and goldnsmith too
faint flare
Its identical to how you can use the coins from the lv70 24mans to buy scaevan upgrade items
Need one from each raid
rough lance
hahaha i didn't realise that
fierce ivy
where do u need to go to unlock culinarian?
faint flare
Limsa upper
rough lance
i'm jus reading story and move on
fierce ivy
kk thanks!
junior tundra
what are good ways to spend time while waiting in duty finder
faint flare
14 is very forumalic and hasn't really changed its content structure or how you do things too much over the expansions
Its how we can say with confidence what ilvls and stuff we'll need/get prior to the patches
rough lance
which npc at where can i see the coin exchange for lvl 70
rough lance
ok thanks
rich bay
@faint flare, @rough lance
Don't forget that we also get new crafter/gatherer gear in 5.3.
Amd you know, if you want to try Eden Verse Savage the first time キドル, 5.3 is the best patch to start of you are a bit unsure about yourself, because you have i500 gear then.
Oh yeah, the ShB Relic goes to i495 too in 5.3x.
rough lance
i'm currently at i465 haha
faint flare
But its not new combat gear
nova whale
Can someone give me advice on a good way to set up summoner and scholar hotbars? Or show me how they have it set up
glad comet
I'm a bit confused with blue mage
so if you do it sync'd (2 DPS, 1 Tank, 1 Healer)
it'll guarantee the spell learnt?
hearty berry
Hi, I was doing a dungeon just now and for multiple item it would say that it is for all class but when I would want to press ''need'' it wouldn't let me. It just kept saying ''that item is not suited for you class or job'' I'm confused.
jade quartz
!faq schkbm
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
Hotbar setup is extremely subjective.
hearty berry
I'm a cleric
static yacht
oops
either way
dexterity is useless for you
if you aren't a class that uses the stat it doesn't automatically equip it for you
it only equips items that are relevant for you which would be mind
nova whale
lol yeah I understand that, due to some circumstances my hotbar is all messed up
jade quartz
While you can equip that ring, it is not suited to your job
so you do not have need rights.
the fact that you can equip it is simply due to old equipment design choices which are rectified in later expansions.
hearty berry
oh I see !
jade quartz
as a WHM you should equip gear with +Mind stat on it.
hearty berry
Oh okay ! thanks a lot ~
nova whale
btw @jade quartz is there a bot command like the one u used for the other classes I can reference
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
nope
rough lance
oh so the tomes caps to exchange for crystarium in 5.3 will b increased to 900 instead of 450 right?
nova whale
Ok thanks
jade quartz
No, they will remain capped at 450 until 5.4 @rough lance
rough lance
oh 5.4
jade quartz
at which point they will become uncapped as the new tier of capped tomestones is added
dense herald
So, quick question. I've been playing Bard for a long time and I'm a little confused. Is the biggest plus to Rain of Death being that it's a wider AoE and is more spammable (in theory) than Quick Nock, cause Quick Nock does more damage and isn't gated by a cooldown (outside of Mage's Ballad).
jade quartz
Rain of Death is an oGCD
you do not choose one or the other
Rain of Death is woven between uses of Quick Nock.
oGCD weaving is extremely important for bard (and every other job in the game, really)
It's one of the basic mechanics of this game.
If you've been playing bard for awhile without understanding it, you oughta take a look at some guides
!faq weaving
zinc orbitBOT
dense herald
👌 Thanks for the help, I'll take a look
I think I've been "accidentally" weaving, I often use other abilities during the animations of other abilities. One example is I often use Bloodletter then immediately use Empyreal since it seems that Bloodletter's damage goes through anyways. Is that an example of weaving based on this guide?
lime sphinx
So i just got miner to 80, should i buy a full set of gear or do i get one at quest 80 ? or is there a set from scrips that's 80?
jade quartz
Bloodletter and Empyreal are both oGCDs so no.
faint flare
Animations have no baring on damage unless its a channelled ability
Once the button is pressed/cast is finished, the damage is snapshotted and dealt
jade quartz
Heavy Shot/Burst Shot -> bloodletter -> Heavy Shot/Burst Shot
is a single weave.
Heavy/Burst is a GCD
GCD stands for Global Cooldown.
rich bay
@lime sphinx
Buy the white scrip gear, 5.3 is close and all gear is replaced by the new 5.3 gear.
You can buy some HQ right gear from the MB.
faint flare
Otherwise known as weaponskills or spells
jade quartz
Your weaponskills (not abilities) are on a global cooldown.
dense herald
I get it now, down to the basics it's just using a GCD then oGCD after, then another GCD
faint flare
OGCDs are abilities on the tooltip
jade quartz
When you use a global cooldown, all global cooldown weaponskills have a 2.5s cooldown (lower depending on your skill speed stat).
faint flare
On normal ping, you can fit 2 off globals within a gcd
lime sphinx
@rich bay Yea i was thinking about Server hopping for a base set of gear, but theres gonna be new scrips gear in 5.3 ?
faint flare
Unless you have a low gcd
jade quartz
So during that cooldown you mash in an oGCD or two.
obsidian patio
Likely no new scrip gear in 5.3
Just a crafted set which includes belt/accessories
lime sphinx
Ok so going for MB gear is a good idea ?
oh new crafted set
so wait for patch i guess
especially since i dont really need miner rn anyway
rich bay
@lime sphinx
No, the i470 white scrip gear is good as catch up.
5.3 brings new crafted DoL/DoH gear.
faint flare
New crafted set will be BiS for the rest of the expansion
dense herald
So:
Raging Strikes -> Corrosive -> Bloodletter -> Windbite -> Mage's Ballad -> Heavy Shot is an example of a weave?
faint flare
With exception of tools eventually probably
lime sphinx
Okay so i'll get some scrip gear while 5.3 hits
jade quartz
er
lime sphinx
i'm still on a full lvl 72 HQ set
jade quartz
Yeah it's an example of several woven oGCDs
rich bay
There is one catch, you can't meld scrip gear at all and they lack GP/CP most of the time.
So those are really catch up.
And there is no scrip right gear afaik. @lime sphinx
zinc orbitBOT
dense herald
Yeah, I was just using 'em as an example
lime sphinx
okok then i'll just wait for crafted gear lol, i dont need high level mats yet outside of selling for money
crafters are still all 40-60
remote lintel
how the hell do you do levi ex
rich bay
So Myst, you can buy the right i430 DoL gear on the MB, it tends to be cheap.
lime sphinx
Will there be a 3rd ishgard restoration phase?
rich bay
Yes
faint flare
Kill the plumes
lime sphinx
Hell yeah
rich bay
In 5.31 most likely.
lime sphinx
@remote lintel Kill the lizard men, they put hysteria on the ground, then plumes, and that's basically it
alrighty, i was afraid i wouldnt have the time to get crafters leveled with ishgard
obsidian patio
I think they’re called spumes if you mean the yellow orb/bubbles
lime sphinx
ahh yea
rich bay
@remote lintel
lime sphinx
Ohhh i forgot i could start the skysteel tools, are those gonna be BIS ?
remote lintel
it takes so long to solo just because of all the stuff that's happening
obsidian patio
For now they’re on par with melded facet tools
lime sphinx
ok, but i guess the odd mats are still pricey, i'll have to check since my crafters can't do them all
obsidian patio
What class and level are you?
midnight slate
How do I make gpose actions do the actions but don’t move
faint flare
There should be a button to freeze characters
midnight slate
Like when I backflip I want the animation but to not fly across the screen
remote lintel
ninja 80
wet sigil
I just unlocked the squadron stuff and was wondering, is it useful to put time into it? I didn't finish the MSQ yet and don't know if it would be worth it to focus on it before continuing the MSQ
obsidian patio
Leviathan should be melting super fast. 
lime sphinx
i soloed leviathan as level 70 bard in 3:30
remote lintel
then more animations
faint flare
Watch the splashes of water from the sides, thats where he's coming from
leaden ginkgo
@wet sigil you might as well, each mission takes 18 hours and you can level your guys up
I haven't bothered much with squadron command missions but those don't unlock for a while at first anyway
wet sigil
ok tyvm
desert ravine
so, the dragon gauge only says it boosts "jump" and "spine shatter dive". why dragon fire dive not included
it definitely jumps
jade quartz
that's just how it is
faint flare
It do be like that
desert ravine
that's inconsistent, but whatever lol
crimson wind
Can i glam stuff above my level?
obsidian patio
No, you have to be able to equip it
crimson wind
fuck
warped nest
This is why all glamour only items are ilvl 1
red heath
I’m thinking about buying Shadowbringers to play as a Hrothgar? Is some sort of unlock scenario or can I create a Hrothgar as soon as I buy it?
warped nest
You can start as horthgar as long as you have Shadowbringers
faint flare
/Change to one
steep heron
Should be unlocked rigght from the start once you own it.
red heath
Okay cool, thank you for the answers.
crimson crystal
How the heck do you know where to sky fish?
warped nest
Just try flailing your rod around
zinc orbitBOT
slow palm
If I upgrade from entry to standard do I just pay 2 more dollars? Also I cancelled my service (to be discontinued in 28 days) so does that affect anything?
lime sphinx
what was the thingy that restored GP and was bought with scrips ?
cause i'm tryna farm some white scrips for gear rn
while i wait for 5.3 gear
warped nest
Cordial
lime sphinx
is it yellow or white scrips ?
warped nest
!item hi-cordial
zinc orbitBOT
Powered by XIVAPI
warped nest
Yellow
lime sphinx
ohhh alright nice thanks
lavish vortex
what would you say is the best way to practice enemy targeting? would it work with dummies?
warped nest
What are you practicing specifically?
lavish vortex
i want to practice targeting different enemies, im a dragoon
warped nest
Dummies is fine
lavish vortex
the way im doing it now is pressing circle on ps4 controller, getting near the one i want to target, and pressing X
but that doesnt alwais work, i end up targeting allies or another enemies sometimes
warped nest
Dpad left right should usually work
lavish vortex
just dpad? no L1?
warped nest
Dpad up down is cycling through your party
Yup
Take note that you still need to press X to confirm your target
lavish vortex
many guides i read say you have to press L1 while holding R2 or L2, is that also correct?
lavish vortex
to cycle through enemy targets
lime sphinx
And about the ephemereal thingies, do i need to reduce to aether the stuff or no ?
warped nest
I think it is cycling your targeting filter
faint flare
You can do that agustin yes
warped nest
If you want to items from aetherial reduction yes
lime sphinx
i've never done that yet but just heard of it a bit
faint flare
You can use dpad left/right or using L1/R1 while holding triggers
lavish vortex
@warped nest @faint flare thanks!
using L1/R1 while holding triggers will hard target directly, with no need to press X, right?
warped nest
I am not familiar with that, so you have to find it out yourself
faint flare
If you have soft targetting on you might still need to press X
I'd turn that shit off reaaaal quick, its so baaad
warped nest
Soft targeting works this way:
Targeting enemy A
DPAD left/right to enemy B
Without pressing X, Use skill on B
You will snap back to A
I think soft targeting is pretty good for healers and tanks
Plus you are just one X away from soft target to hard target
faint flare
Tanks maybe for shirk/shared cd
But healers you're usually using more than 1 depending on target Hp and a unnecessary button press is clunky
warped nest
Let's agree that this comes down to personal preference
lavish vortex
ill try both... but disabling soft target seems simpler i guess
for beginners at least
which i am haha
sand flame
can I wear 2 of the same ring
warped nest
Some of them yes
faint flare
If its not unique you can
warped nest
For Blue rarity rings (like those traded with poetics) , you can only have one of them
faint flare
It says on the top if its unique
warped nest
Augmented Ironwork and Ironwork are not the same rings btw
sand flame
so this means no
warped nest
Nope
sand flame
it's eden
warped nest
Yeah, can't wear two duplicate of unique rings
sand flame
dang
warped nest
Just to clarify, when it comes a tomestone ring
They are unique as well
But upgraded version is not the same as the base version
So you can wear 1 upgrade and 1 base
sick zenith
@lavish vortex i play on ps4, i can help
What class do you play
Tab targeting is when you hold L2 or R2 and press l1 or r1
L1 selects the enemy closest to the center of your screen on the left
R1 goes to the right
dire hawk
sick zenith
Meanwhile d pad targeting works like this
The left d pad targets the closest targetable thing to the center of your screen in the left
Vice versa for right
If you play a dps you can play withput soft targeting but its worth practicing if you want to play healer
obsidian patio
@dire hawk you can swap them at the calamity salvager
merry forum
on playstation, when i switched from a blacksmith back to a gladiator, my hotbar completely reset. is there anyway to stop this from happening?
faint flare
It shouldn't reset
jade quartz
Reset how?
faint flare
It should go back to what you had it prior
merry forum
all of my gladiator skills and actions just disappeared, and i had to add them back again
faint flare
Are you on the right hotbar
jade quartz
Sounds like you switched hotbar numbers on your GLA
merry forum
no i checked and my hotbar numbers were the same
hopefully it wont happen again i guess
jade quartz
Try switching to BSM and back again
ivory iris
what are some good ways to help one other person level, I'm 80 and theyre sub 50, what are my options if they are on and off the datacetner I'm on
also dumb question, do they have to be in the same world for me to meet with them in instanced areas like cities
little swift
if they're on teh same data center as you you can play together
crimson wind
Where's the Fractal Continuum unlock
jade quartz
Cities are not instanced areas.
ivory iris
can I just get them to an area with lvl 50 enemies and kill them for them?
little swift
jade quartz
Yes, you do have to be on the same world to meet other people in cities/overworld zones.
little swift
@crimson wind
crimson wind
thanks
little swift
grinding mobs is not an effective way to level btw
just take them through leveling dungeons
ivory iris
that makes sense, what if they're not in the same world, would unsynced dungeons be a good option?
ivory iris
that'd be too easy
jade quartz
Regular dungeons and roulettes.
There's not a cheat powerleveling method.
Your friend must play the game normally like the rest of us.
sand flame
wait how come I unlocked both savages for eden and it wont let me do verse?
faint flare
Its in the high end duty tab
ivory iris
so just make a party and run through ones at their current level?
sick zenith
@merry forum did you have the paladin soul gem equipped
faint flare
Not the normal duty tab
jade quartz
Yes, do the daily leveling roulette and alliance raid roulette if you have it
sand flame
oh I see
jade quartz
then spam highest-level dungeon that's not level 50, 60 or 70
sand flame
thank you
merry forum
i dont even know what that is
ivory iris
cool thanks
jade quartz
What level GLA are you?
merry forum
36
sick zenith
Did you do the level 30 quest
jade quartz
Go to the Gladiators' Guild and catch up on your quests there
Do not queue for any more multiplayer content without being a paladin.
merry forum
the paladin quest where i have to light the beacon in the shire was for some reason really difficult for me
so thats why im still a gladiator
sick zenith
...
jade quartz
Go back and try again.
Becoming a paladin is not optional.
Ensure you're wearing appropriate-level gear.
faint flare
Unless your gear is literally trash it shouldnt be hard
jade quartz
Yeah, there is no difficulty to speak of in that quest.
merry forum
yup i know, i had the recommended gear on but i still got killed after like less than a minute of fighting
i do have my chocobo
jade quartz
What gear
faint flare
Recommended gear =/= best gear you can get
jade quartz
That you were wearing the recommended gear doesn't really mean anything
faint flare
You can probably get better
jade quartz
if all the gear you own is bad
It just equips the best option from what you have on you.
faint flare
Especially if you're dying that fast
Especially as a tank with access to defensive cooldowns like rampart
And a chocobo to heal
leaden ginkgo
^, and the gear you get from the MSQ should be way more then enough
weak flume
speaking of gear, I forget if the three HW classes give you starting armor, or is it just weapon and soul stone?
jade quartz
Yeah something's wrong if you're dying easily during that quest
zinc orbitBOT
jade quartz
you're pulling like 20 mobs at once, or standing in fire, or wearing a paper bag for armour, or something
merry forum
im gear level 0025
leaden ginkgo
Like, I never needed to even think about gear as long as I hit the recommended button while leveling, not until 50 and poetivs
jade quartz
What gear
merry forum
i do remember that someone else was doing the quest at the same time and there was a lot of mobs
leaden ginkgo
are you picking up gear from the msq @merry forum ?
jade quartz
show us a screenshot of your gear
jade quartz
ilvl doesn't really tell us anything either when it could be like caster robes
merry forum
yup i am
jade quartz
that gear is a tiny bit low but should be fine
so you're probably just facepulling too many mobs
be careful of getting close to too many enemies. Keep enemy line of sight in mind.
vapid pecan
All these culinarian guides saying I need Steady Hand...which I don't have...am I missing something obvious?
leaden ginkgo
the quest he needs to do, is it instanced?
jade quartz
Also use your defensive cooldowns.
merry forum
alrighty
faint flare
Steady hand is gone
jade quartz
@vapid pecan old guides
faint flare
Its hard baked into skills
dense pier
Is there a way to auto-decline FC invites? Getting really tired of these random-ass people just inviting me to their random FCs
vapid pecan
Are there any that are newer?
jade quartz
if any FFXIV guide you find is from before mid-2019, it's outdated.
faint flare
Crafting longue
jade quartz
leaden ginkgo
Since I'd be willing to stop by and do it with you to give pointers if that would help, given I'm also on aether
jade quartz
There are some pins in there
vapid pecan
I'll check it out, thanks for the tips!
leaden ginkgo
@merry forum ^ (my message above). If your having that much trouble, I'd think it's big. And actually, if it is instanced, dying once to the instance usually gives the option to make the fight easier
weak flume
I know SAM, RDM, GNB, and DNC gave me starting armor, but can't remember if AST, DRK, or MCH gave you any
merry forum
i don't beleive it's instanced, seeing as it forced me to return to my home point
leaden ginkgo
gotcha ok
merry forum
ill try it again tomorrow ig
leaden ginkgo
If you like I can set it up so I help you tommorow, free all day @merry forum . Even if you do get past the quest, I have a feeling you may be making a mistake big enough that it will cause you major issues if you don't fix it, so would be helpful to have someone with you to try and find out what it is. A video would help just as well technically, but I wouldn't ever expect you to be able to make one
(or anyone else make one, to be clear)
regal mirage
What US world is most active during JP evenings?
jade quartz
Probably not much variation?
regal mirage
Or Australia evenings
jade quartz
World populations are pretty equalised
regal mirage
I’ve seen tonberry mentioned as being JP server with English speakers, but it’s full and can’t make a new character there
jade quartz
Kujata is like the secondary server to Tonberry
leaden ginkgo
during evenings @jade quartz - the time is important. IK for example the middle of the night in the eastern us is much slower :p
jade quartz
but world differences matter a lot less now what with the world visit system
@leaden ginkgo ?? that doesn't change what I said at all
leaden ginkgo
oooh no you right
steel ginkgo
So I started recently lvl 40 right now...but i find it I just end up playing solo most of the time. Tried joining companies or w.e. but no one seems to be doing anything really. Is this how this game goes or like how do I go about actually finding people that play together?
leaden ginkgo
I misunderstoof the rignal question
jade quartz
NA servers are all generally the same kinds of people with similar schedules
leaden ginkgo
well, sort of, I would assume western US goes to sleep sooner
regal mirage
No unofficial Japanese severe?
regal mirage
Server
jade quartz
West Coast and East Coast people don't gravitate to different servers
leaden ginkgo
oh I see, ok
regal mirage
As in, the opposite counterpart of tonberry
leaden ginkgo
didn't realize
jade quartz
@regal mirage not that I know of
leaden ginkgo
@steel ginkgo plenty of companies are popular, just need to find the right one
jade quartz
Tonberry became a thing because of Oceanic and SEA players who had the best connection to JP datacentres but had English as their main or common language
night canyon
If you come to kujata hit me up if you want a friend
steel ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo so just bounce between companies until one fits? ok got it
jade quartz
Whereas there aren't any large populations of players who speak Japanese but are closer to NA servers than JP ones
leaden ginkgo
@steel ginkgo basically, and make sure to read their recruitment messages and ask them questions
also we havea recruitment channel too
regal mirage
Cool, will try Kujata after work
leaden ginkgo
and theres also the lodestone, with basic info on each company
night canyon
Kalika Heavensword is my in game. I can flick you some Gil to get you started
steel ginkgo
@leaden ginkgo k thanks 🙂
bronze sorrel
its unlikely youll be able get in during normal people hours
regal mirage
Is it possible to transfer characters to a different data canter?
night canyon
No
bronze sorrel
yea
regal mirage
Center
night canyon
You can move to@new worlds
bronze sorrel
but costs money
night canyon
Only if you go from@high pop to low pop when there’s a movement thing opened
bronze sorrel
like real money
night canyon
It’s not like wow transfer whenever you want
bronze sorrel
um no
night canyon
I don’t think you can go jp-> is either
bronze sorrel
you can transfer to any world as long as its not high pop
night canyon
Jp->us
regal mirage
Well I’m only lv10 so not worth spending money, will just start over
night canyon
Last I heard I could t move from elemental to a us server
bronze sorrel
were u trying to move to balmung
regal mirage
What is best job to start fresh with
leaden ginkgo
!faq transfer
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
!faq servertransfer
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night canyon
I don’t want to move, us servers smell, it I was under the impression you couldn’t
bronze sorrel
all jobs are decent
leaden ginkgo
^, like there are a few that might be arguably easier to learn @regal mirage , but none that outright mean they're the best to start with. The few jobs that are arguably the most skill intensive are all level locked at 50 or above anyway, so won't need to worry atm 😛
regal mirage
Like what jobs have simple rotations for new players to learn
night canyon
I stand corrected. Hmm. I disapprove of server transfers in mmos so that’s sad.
But I am wrong
So you can.
bronze sorrel
oh hey that answer's much better
jade quartz
@night canyon you can change datacentres with a paid transfer.
remote lintel
not all the jobs that are skill intensive are locked
leaden ginkgo
oh no?
night canyon
I have read j am now aware
leaden ginkgo
I'm mistaken then
remote lintel
black mage is regarded as complicated to learn
night canyon
I wouldn’t never move tho, but now I know correctly when people ask
leaden ginkgo
Just from what I remembered that was the case
night canyon
Nothing is complicated to learn
jade quartz
"I disapprove of server transfers"--you don't think a person should be able to change the people they play with, or continue to have a good play experience if they emigrate to another country? <_<
night canyon
Comes down to if you like the flow of play
jade quartz
Anyway, within one datacentre you can freely visit other worlds for as long as you want
night canyon
If you like managing mana bars and stances and cool downs blm is for you
remote lintel
if it wasn't that complicated to learn we wouldn't have a dedicated faq for it
bronze sorrel
see the thing is
leaden ginkgo
yeah BLM is totalyl a fair one
leaden ginkgo
well, hard to execute well I think
night canyon
I just lvled it entirely through main story roulette lol
No worries you never need to know past lvl 50 spells 😉
leaden ginkgo
judging from what I've heard, anyway
whole wasp
Yea. BLM is simple. Use fire spells until out of mana. Use ice spells until full of mana.
remote lintel
sure
jade quartz
BLM just has several points in its leveling process where its rotation goes through major changes
night canyon
If you raid I guess anyythibg can be complicated
jade quartz
and it's quite unintuitive in that regard.
night canyon
I never do more than the daily lvl 80 dungeon tho
whole wasp
Just that their new spells when they level tend to mess with this cycle in interesting ways
remote lintel
that's why i said complicated TO LEARN
night canyon
Everything is easy to grasp about paladin that’s why I use it everyday lol
Good for my low iq
remote lintel
what was the question tho
regal mirage
Also, what trade skills should I pick up that will be useful in the long run
night canyon
You mean crafting ?
regal mirage
Yes
jade quartz
Crafting classes are optional
remote lintel
i think miner and botanist are both good
jade quartz
If you want to get into it, it's recommended to do all of them.
night canyon
They’re all useful equally...just lvl them all when you have time if you enjoy it
remote lintel
for money
jade quartz
Miner and botanist are gatherers, not crafters.
All the crafting classes are sorta interconnected and rely on each other.
For intermediate materials and stuff.
night canyon
But I went cooking first than the others using the beats tribe quests with cooking doing the making of items
jade quartz
One single crafting class doesn't, like, make all the gear for a given combat job
regal mirage
I was planning on doing both mining and botanist, want to know about the ones where you make things
night canyon
All the gatherers are really easy with levequests
jade quartz
For example, a given set of tank armour might have a blacksmith’s sword, an armourer’s shield and top, a weaver’s pants, a leatherworker’s boots and gloves, a goldsmith and carpenter’s accessories
night canyon
I’d say just pick a craft at random then another than another?
jade quartz
and intermediate materials made by an alchemist for all of those parts.
night canyon
They’re all equally as useful
regal mirage
Like how do crafted weapons compare to dungeon drops
remote lintel
crafted weapons are generally worse
night canyon
Unless very high end
trail bramble
Is there a way for multiple hairstyle for a character
night canyon
Just use dungeon gear
crimson crystal
For jenova, it says new characters can be made but my friend can't join?
regal mirage
So sounds like no until endgame?
night canyon
You make money via crafting through glamour and housing items mostly
remote lintel
crafters are useful for other things than crafting gear
regal mirage
So, carpentry?
remote lintel
you can make money a lot of ways with crafters
night canyon
It makes no real difference...you’ll want to do them all
They’re like classes in their own
It’s not like in wow
remote lintel
just pick one you like basically
night canyon
Pick one whose theme seems cool
remote lintel
if you want to know which ones tend to make more money i think i can suggest some
night canyon
You can do them all at the eame time too if that’s your bag
They all make decent money? I can’t think of any total Bombs
Money is not hard to come buy
remote lintel
i think some of them tend to make more
jade quartz
Yeah no if you want to make money it's even more recommended to do all of them
regal mirage
Ok, which one should I take to make money on while leveling, got 300 Gil to start with
dense herald
Shadowbite does more damage for every DoT you have on the target. Does this extra damage only apply to others hit if they also have DoTs on them, or does only your primary target need them to increase the damage to everyone hit?
night canyon
Yeah but not like hugely so.
Plus you’ll want to level them all anyway
jade quartz
Only your primary target @dense herald
night canyon
So it won’t matter which you pick first
Cooking is fairly easy to lvl
Carptentry can use annoying maths when I did it anyway
dense herald
👌 ty
jade quartz
As long as your main target has both DoTs up, Shadowbite will do its max damage to all enemies it hits in the splash
whole wasp
crafters take money to level up too, i wouldnt bother with them until you finish 
night canyon
*matts
dense herald
Awesome, thought I was doing it wrong but I saw the damage was more or less the same so I wanted to double-check
remote lintel
that would take a long time
night canyon
Smug: for money I agree. For fun I disagree
jade quartz
Oh the money difference from not having them all leveled up can indeed be very huge.
whole wasp
oh sure, for fun anything goes
jade quartz
I also would recommend doing MSQ first before starting crafting, due to the time investment
dense herald
Doing MSQ also allows you to do levies
Which helps level up your crafting and gathering way faster
jade quartz
Not having all crafters leveled seriously impacts your profitability because you need to buy intermediate materials crafted by other classes from other people off the marketboard
for a significant markup usually.
quartz pivot
Guys, when leveling my first class to 80, should I segue into crafting classes and materia melding? Or can I make do without them?
night canyon
Yeah I agree to not start before you do a real reborn story
That’s a good point to try one
remote lintel
@quartz pivot crafted gear is generally worse unless youre already 80
jade quartz
Completing the MSQ up to patch 3.3 unlocks Ishgardian Restoration, which is a massive boon to craft leveling.
trail bramble
What are the most expensive content in this game?
night canyon
Expensive?
whole wasp
housing
jade quartz
Housing and glamour
whole wasp
and decorating the house yup
night canyon
Housing and raiding materials
quartz pivot
@remote lintel I meant only leveling my crafting job enough to unlock materia melding. Or can I progress through the story without materia on my gear?
jade quartz
Not raiding materials
remote lintel
oh
jade quartz
except day 1 for world proggers
remote lintel
you can do it wihtout materia
whole wasp
you dont have to level crafting to meld materia onto gear
night canyon
Can make a lot selling materia on my server anyway
whole wasp
you can use the materia melder NPC
remote lintel
@quartz pivot materia is only really useful at 80
leaden ginkgo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692207823232303155/715047102740430969/unknown.png how do i use two fertilizer, it only lets me use one
night canyon
20-40k a pop for vIIIs
dense herald
Materia is only ever useful at max level
You change your gear too often for it to be useful elsewhere
remote lintel
also the materia quest is low lvl and you don't need a crafting class iirc?
quartz pivot
@whole wasp there's a questlock at level 19 disciple of the hand tho. Do I not need to complete that to meld materia?
lavish vortex
hi, i just started shadowbringers (its so good so far), is there a place where i can change my tomestones for new/better gear? im a Dragoon at lv 72
night canyon
I didn’t think he was asking about crafting, just in general
whole wasp
nope, thats for you personally to meld materia. if you do the lvl 19
dense herald
Rhalgr's Reach
jade quartz
Thats to meld your own materia anywhere
whole wasp
you can ask the materia melder NPC to meld for you
night canyon
If just crafting then yes housing and glamour
jade quartz
You can unlock materia melder NPCs without needing a DoH.
dense herald
Is where you buy level 70 tomestone gear
remote lintel
i don't think you can unlock tomestone vendors until you finish shb
quartz pivot
Oh. And I can find those in major cities?
whole wasp
yup, 3 starting cities and all the endgame hubs
quartz pivot
All right, thanks :>
dense herald
I think they mean level 70 tomestone gear, which is in Rhalgr's
jade quartz
and the endgame hubs
night canyon
You get vendors at 50 60 and 70
whole wasp
except maybe mor dhona
dense herald
Unless they mean 80 gear somehow
remote lintel
oh i see mightyena
night canyon
70 is rhagr yeah
jade quartz
You'll want Scaevan gear of Maiming.
Exchangeable for Poetics in Rhalgr's Reach near the aetheryte.
East side.
dense herald
Don't forget to augment it
night canyon
You get poetics like candy so just fully deck yourself out every 10 lvls
jade quartz
Tomestone Exchange -> DoW gear II
lavish vortex
@dense herald thanks, yes, i mean level 70 tomesone gear... i already have that gear... so theres no new gear in shadowbringers for level 70
dense herald
Did you augment it?
robust gazelle
Of note, the vendor can not be accessed until you’ve finished the “Stormblood” quest.
jade quartz
Scaevan is the best.
remote lintel
@lavish vortex tomestone gear is endgame gear
so you wouldn't get it yet
until you finish shb
whole wasp
nope. augmented scaeven is good until around lvl 75 dungeon
jade quartz
Scaevan is the level 70 tomestone gear.
lavish vortex
@dense herald not yet, but i think ill just wait to get new and better gear from quests as i naturally get them from the story
dense herald
Augmented gear lasts you for a while
lavish vortex
@remote lintel got it, thanks
night canyon
Or spend them on anima items
If you’d rather do that
The other big use for them
If you care about glamour
robust gazelle
70 is the highest Poetic gear you can buy. There’s different Tomestones for Level 80 ShB gear (Phantasmagoria and Allegory).
remote lintel
^
lavish vortex
@dense herald yeah, but i hate the looks of the lv 70 gear haha so im eager to get new one... i have it glamoured but i like to try new looks, so im excited for the new gear in shadowbringers
remote lintel
the shb gear looks nice except most crystarium
lavish vortex
oh, so after i augment i have no other use for poetic anymore??
remote lintel
you use poetics to get the lvl 80 relic weapon
jade quartz
!faq poetics
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night canyon
If you cap before 80 I recommend buying things you need to make a anima relic weapon from Heavensward
So you don’t burn stones
robust gazelle
Also that. Assuming you’ve done the unlock for the level 70 Relics.
lavish vortex
@remote lintel good, so they will be useful eventually
jade quartz
Follow that link.
little swift
you can only buy anima items provided you have reached the step previously
jade quartz
Good recommendations for spending poetics to earn gil.
lavish vortex
awesome.
night canyon
Sure but he’s past Heavensward so it’s just advice so he can not easte stones if he cares or not by doing the anima content 😉
Knowing is half the battle
remote lintel
@lavish vortex just to clarify, your first lvl 80 relic weapon is free, but getting another relic weapon for a different class will cost you 1,000 poetics
whole wasp
i think buying gear for alt jobs you wanna try someday is pretty good too
dense herald
I forget, can you get crafting stuff with tomestones
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whole wasp
i know phanta has some crafting stuff, not sure about poetics
remote lintel
topsoil
lavish vortex
@remote lintel is there a good guide on how to get relic weapons? i only completed the "return to Ivalice" quests
round walrus
whats the fastest way of getting storm company seals for a new person?
remote lintel
you'll get another quest from the same npc in kugane, that's the quest for the relic weapon
dense herald
I believe you can get them from fates and roulettes and turn-ins if you do crafting
^ and that
round walrus
ah gotcha if i already claimed a daily roulette can i still get the adventure in need reward?
little swift
yes
whole wasp
yup
round walrus
oh sweet thanks this shouldnt be too bad then
dense herald
Leveling is the only one for company seals iirc
round walrus
yup it actually gives quite a lot of what i need which is nice
little swift
guildhest roulette provides seals too
twilit arch
also don't forget the hunting log
you're going to need to do that for promotions anyway
dense herald
Is there a guide somewhere for the best levies to do from 70-80 to level crafters and gatherers?
So I can prepare
round walrus
oh wait the hunting log might be faster for this one actually thanks!
dense herald
Awesome, thanks
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little swift
!action midare setsugekka
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!action hissatsu kaiten
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little swift
yes 1200 would be the correct math
remote lintel
ty
mossy tartan
What is the ratio of gaining rested exp per hour?
ivory iris
if I make a party with someone (we're two dps) and I queue for the leveling roulette, will it put us both in the same dungeon once we accept?
ivory iris
nice, the party finder system is really helpful in this game
yeah that makes sense, but it just seemed too convenient, I'm so used to systems and programs just not being helpful or doing what I want
twilit arch
not sure how much you gain per hour, i only know it takes 4days~ to cap rested exp @mossy tartan
mossy tartan
by cap, you mean filling one bar?
twilit arch
rested exp caps at 1.5 level bars
mossy tartan
okay, thank you
leaden ginkgo
I did a Hidden Gorge, Rival Wings match and, i guess to double check
Get Cereluem Tanks. Get Mechs rolling. Get Supplies Train. Get Goblin Mercenary. and Kill Enemy Mammets and Mechs
...yeah?
rugged flicker
So I'm trying my hand at some skybuilders stuff for the firs time in awhile. What the fuck is with this insanely high max collectibility? How is it even possible to get it that high?
twilit arch
are you doing the expert craft
rugged flicker
Yea
rugged flicker
How the hell is that done tho? Just curious
twilit arch
#doh-dol-lounge has a macro and the creator's comment on said macro for expert recipes in the pins
little swift
yes
gentle marten
Can vieras use flowers?
twilit arch
ya
small circlet/flower type items are visible on viera
basically things that are going to clip with their ears, most helms/hats are the ones that aren't visible
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twilit arch
that's kaeshi: setsugekka
which in the actions and traits menu will be part of the tsubame-gaeshi skill
since it changes based on the iaijutsu you used previously
agile turret
Anyone know anything about the history of anima weapon updates? i was looking at some youtube videos and it looked really hard on release, and obviously it's a lot better now
and i used this website
but the requirements seem outdated and it seems like they made it harder again actually
twilit arch
i wouldn't say "hard"
agile turret
grind*
twilit arch
relics are largely just time consuming
twilit arch
but anima is significantly easier/quicker to do nowdays
agile turret
one of the exchange rates went from 2->8 mhachi farthing and 5-> 20 allagan catalyst i think
any reason they would make it a little more annoying?
also do u know why the primal pieces have such drastically different prices? like i was gonna just buy out the entire crystal sand step when looking at 2 of the 3 pieces for both of the exchanges and then one of them just makes it too expensive because im not actually doing anything for income rn and i have only like 1 million from msq
twilit arch
EX primal prices are going to vary because one they're RNG in drop, and two its based on what players choose to sell it at
so its not like those are going to have a one price for all thing
and the farthing/catalyst hasnt changed
agile turret
wait rlly? then that site is just straight up wrong i guess
since most of the things are 4x what it says except the enchanted ink and thavnairian mist
twilit arch
no
it lists the farthing/catalyst as it is now
its 2 farthing and 5 catalyst for 2 sand
agile turret
its more in game
agile turret
ok nvm im retarded
i upped the exchange number
after i bought with inks and mists
quartz pivot
As a new player, should I immediately look into this Deep Dungeon instance?
sinful breach
nah, its just additional content but is useful for leveling up alt classes
scenic orbit
Hey guys I just did the satasha dungeon and the tank died twice while pulling mobs and blamed me both times for using stone and heals instead of just healing. Am I supposed to only heal for the early dungeons?
What I normally do is heal when the tank is close to mid hp or low and stone monsters while they are close to full
scenic orbit
It was satasha though maybe he didn't have those yet?
formal bramble
little swift
Rampart is an early role action
scenic orbit
I've done the dungeon several times and it's been np but I figured maybe this tank was a lot better and I couldn't keep up
little swift
If their tank is above 50 outside of sync
scenic orbit
He did say he's a lvl 80 white mage himself on another account
little swift
They'd have arms length and reprisal as well
He did say he's a lvl 80 white mage himself on another account
@scenic orbit that doesnt really mean much. They're just tryinf to intimidate you into playing their way
That being said early dungeon pulls can be tougher on tanks and healers because younhave fewer tools
scenic orbit
That's what I was thinking of it but I was second guessing it
little swift
So just be careful anyways
scenic orbit
Gotcha
slate arrow
at low levels though you can curespam your way through wall2wall pulls
little swift
Unless your healer is undergeared
Or your tank doesn't use cds
That being said cure spamming is a bad habit
scenic orbit
I know I can cure spam. Just don't want to get into that habit
scenic orbit
Yeah his health would just plummet so fast. I think if I played with him again I'd be fine
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little swift
!action arms length
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!action reprisal
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little swift
The third one goes onto the mobs debuff bars
If you don't see these or the tank specific CDs
scenic orbit
Damn that's a bit to keep track of isn't it haha
little swift
Know to focus them a little more on the healing
scenic orbit
Alright I'll try that
little swift
Since they'll melt a bit faster
warped nest
@open solstice yes, I was
Currently taking a break
(I am answering a DM question here)
scenic orbit
Wait is it possible he wanted me to cure spam him so he wouldn't have to use any of those?
open solstice
@warped nest I’m just getting started on the free pass and just wondering which platform do I buy the game and pay for sub fee if I want to, and EU is cheaper right?
little swift
Regardless of whether he wants you to heal him more or less
He should have used a defensive cooldown
warped nest
I can't give any helpful comment on where and how to pay your sub
I started mine when I was studying in NA
little swift
Since him taking less damage at a slower rate gives you more time to heal and do other things
warped nest
And I just stick with it
open solstice
Ahh okay..Thanks anyway! 😬 I’ll try to look around haha
warped nest
For platforms, just stick with the official sellers for your copies: SE, Steam, PSN
scenic orbit
Icic well thanks for the tips
open solstice
I’ll probably stick with SE, but I heard that there might be issues when MY buys EU stuff and so on
warped nest
For digital copies you should be fine
Digital purchase of any kind (not limited to this game) are usually less strict because most players are probably not from NA, EU, and JP
open solstice
Okay noted on that 👍🏻 thank you!
pearl wharf
do these used to give you some type of type resistence?
twilit arch
yes
shrewd relic
Is the next patch delayed?
warped nest
Yes
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dry ocean
How long does the post ARR msq last?
little swift
100 quests
dry ocean
Until heavensward?
dry ocean
Ohh I see
little swift
A lot of it is just talking to npcs/cutscenes
But there are some fun trials and dungeons in there too
dry ocean
Base now at mor dhona am I halfway there?
warped nest
Have you fought Leviathan or Ramuh?
dry ocean
Not yet
little swift
Then no
dry ocean
Im done wth the mog king
warped nest
You are getting there
dry ocean
Thankss
warped nest
Np, have fun
rare karma
What stat is it best to focus when adding materia for dark knight? Or does it depend on what stats I currently have?
polar cairn
quiet crystal
Craft
lofty pulsar
is it ok to be overleveled while doing msq or is it inefficient in a way? Doing lvl 54 msq while 63 as blm
ionic garnet
Funny but serious question, why is there beef between whm and tanks?
Or maybe I'm just reading the situation wrong
little swift
@rare karma sks to tier of comfyness > crit > dhit > det > ten
@polar cairn can sell approvsd things on market board
Or use them
@lofty pulsar it happens and that's perfectly fine. If you're worried about exp waste you can always level anothsr job on top of that to soak that msq exp
lofty pulsar
cool ok
little swift
@ionic garnet hard to say if its whm specific. Tanks and healers can have disagreements on how the game/instances should be run and it happens. But I'm not sure I would consider it beef or just passive aggressive playstyle conflict
ionic garnet
Ah. Like I want to play slow and careful and then tanks just blitz through, catching hands from every mob on the map
young fjord
Id say the beef is born from memes born from playstyle conflict
ionic garnet
I play and focus exclusively on healing the tank
If others start taking random damage, I freak tf out.
Because either the tank didn't pull correctly or the DPS is poorly positioned
whole wasp
people make mistakes.
little swift
Sounds like you want to communicate your newness/unfamiliarity of the game in chat as well
whole wasp
you are there to catch them when they fall
ionic garnet
I understand that
whole wasp
dont worry too much about it, just do your best
little swift
People are more likely to slow down if you tell them
ionic garnet
I mean internally I freak out
I haven't set macros and micros yet
(˘･_･˘) I'm guilty of going in front of the tank just to pull them and cast holy
Then assize
young fjord
Its mostly about propper cooldown usage to mitigate damage and kill enemies faster
ionic garnet
Have the tank finish the leftover
Usually
I'm saying that at times when I am impatient, I go in front of tank to do what I just said
But they're never huge pulls
I don't ever do that on the first run though.
young fjord
shit will get you kicked or left without a tank in the end
young fjord
If you want the tank to go faster, then just ask him to
desert ravine
Is it possible to reach gaebolg nexus without crafting classes leveled?
desert ravine
Okay thanks
young fjord
Would be good if you have materials
vague night
New player here need friends
marsh ledge
where to get alexandian gear?
proud willow
Alexandrian gear comes from the final tier of Alexander Savage
marsh ledge
how to get that? sorry im still a bit new at lvl 60
proud willow
If you're just looking for good gear at 60, what you want is Shire gear
leaden ginkgo
You probably don't need Alexandria gear lol
proud willow
That is obtained in Idyllshire with Tomestones of Poetics
leaden ginkgo
Basically only usefull if you want it for glamour
marsh ledge
i have shire
proud willow
if you want Alexandrian for the look, you'll need to get a bunch of people together to run Alex Savage unsynced
whole wasp
lvl 60 -> do quest for alexander 8man-raid normal -> complete all 12 alexander normal raid -> unlock savage version alexander -> do savage version of final tier -> get alexandrian gear
its way easier if you're 80
leaden ginkgo
^, and you'll need to get to 80 anyway to do anything that isn't basically leveling content
storm bane
when do you unlock flight?
whole wasp
in heavensward
proud willow
after the first 20 or so MSQ in Heavensward, they'll let you start unlocking flight
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remote lintel
waste not 2 better than 1?
whole wasp
it lasts 4 more steps
you need to evaluate if you need the extra 4 steps for yourself
they are both useful
obsidian patio
Also remember that steps are wasted if you use skills that don’t use durability
Like buffs
whole wasp
for example, 35 dur craft, you probably cant use all 8 steps anyway
dense pier
What happens if I complete all the hunts in a daily of that level from the clan?
Do i get a bonus?
obsidian patio
Nope
obsidian patio
Still good to do all of them since they can be close or the same target
torn bane
can a decently geared level 80 solo a level 70 dungeon?
obsidian patio
You’d need some amount of self-healing but most likely, depending on the exact dungeon due to possible mechanics that require more than one person
wintry chasm
^
torn bane
right right
wintry chasm
Mechanics would be the biggest factor by far
torn bane
i'm looking at ghimlyt dark
hoary storm
I tried soloing that on my ilvl 500 SAM, first boss tb the hell out of me
rough lance
i can jus resub entry membership tier every mth as long as i onlyy hav 1 char right?
oak ice
Paladins can definitely solo Ghimlyt, it will just take a long-ass time
Wait, the DPS check at the end might be an issue
mossy tartan
Does direct hit rate work on healing spells?
potent tapir
No, Remilia
Yes, Kidoru
You can still have multiple characters though. Just not on the same world
leaden ginkgo
I want to start playing FFXIV and wanted to install the free trial, is it better to install it on Steam or through it's own site?
mild ermine
I want to like Scholar but I’m having so much trouble with it.
mossy tartan
I want to start playing FFXIV and wanted to install the free trial, is it better to install it on Steam or through it's own site?
@leaden ginkgo going with the official website is your best bet if you can
to make payments faster, etc
leaden ginkgo
Alright, thanks a lot!
proud willow
the advantage to Steam is that you can use your Steam Wallet for subscription fees and cash shop items. the advantage to non-Steam is that sales are more frequent
potent tapir
What level are you, @mild ermine ?
dense pier
Where do I get ARR glam recipes for crafting. Is it the 2nd book, or do some professions not get glam recipes?
mild ermine
Tried to help friends at lower levels with it and that was a mistake. Level 80 because I leveled summoner.
Seems better at mid to high levels
potent tapir
At lower levels, you can have the fairy heal for most things