questions-and-help

[slate arrow]

heat blast lowers your GCD to 1.5 seconds and recharges 15 seconds on Gauss round and richochet

[broken pasture]

APM is a thing? Interesting.

[remote lintel]

machinist uses aiming gear

a bunch of other classes use aiming

[austere lagoon]

I'm really excited to learn the rotation! I'll be sure to slap a dummy a few times

[broken pasture]

Yeah. I come form games where I almost exclusively played supportive things, which can be found in the other ranged dps

[slate arrow]

so you end up needing to time your presses to get 5 heat blasts every hypercharge while not overcapping on Gauss round and richochet

[broken pasture]

But this once, I kind of wanted to play something more selfish.

[slate arrow]

@austere lagoon oh BRD doesn't have a rotation

just a priority system

[remote lintel]

bard rotation

[austere lagoon]

Oh okay. 😦

[broken pasture]

What does that mean? If it means there is less of a specific pattern you automatically follow on Bard, maybe I play that.

[little swift]

most jobs have supportive skills to an extent

[remote lintel]

it's still fun

[little swift]

besides sam and blm

[remote lintel]

bard is one of my fave classes

it's very busy despite lack of combos

[austere lagoon]

Its so far been a lot of fun!

[broken pasture]

From how you describe heat blasts Industrial, it sounds like MCH has a burst mode like RDM does, but far more interesting than clicking gap closer, melee, melee2, melee3.

Yeah, I want to be "kept busy." I can find that in MCH too?

[remote lintel]

yes

[slate arrow]

You can store up to three hypercharges in a row but when you don't have 50 heat

It tends to just be 1-2-3 spam

[broken pasture]

I've really only done tank in challenging content (and since I'm only just at Heavensward, it can be argued nothing has been challenging yet).

[slate arrow]

yeah no it's not until level 70 when normal mode content starts being challenging

but the true challenge is extreme trials, savage raids, and ultimate raids

[broken pasture]

I look forward to it. Like, the bosses in raids seem really varied and fun.

[remote lintel]

it is a lot of fun

[broken pasture]

But everyone else has done the raids so much I beat them without actually learning them, so I don't get a feel for them.

[remote lintel]

that's only a thing with lower level raids

[broken pasture]

And they look really difficult to learn in your first go. Like I just fought Cerberus in the 3rd Crystal Tower.

And everyone was all "you are on chains" and "you get eaten," meanwhile I'm the tank that's not getting direct boss attention so unless there are adds I just feel like I'm a bad dps in 8+ participant content.

[remote lintel]

yeah raids require a lot of coordination

[broken pasture]

I did have a LOT of fun with Odin though.

[remote lintel]

you would like the lvl 60+ ones

the lvl 70+ ones are where they get really good imo

[broken pasture]

Well I will get there as soon as I stop spending entire days on gathering and crafting trade ins

Ok, so with my MCH at level 31 it'll be a while before it resembles anything busy worky

I've only just unlocked heat gauge

[remote lintel]

yeah all the classes at lower lvl are kinda slow

because you're missing like half your skills

[slate arrow]

all the jobs are kinda to really simple at level 50

[broken pasture]

Indeed, I was really disappointed when I got gunbreaker and I found it virtually identical to Paladin.

[remote lintel]

it's not really

[broken pasture]

I imagine their differences grow larger after level 50.

[slate arrow]

yep

[broken pasture]

I mean, at level 50 (60 with no Heavensward Paladin moves) they really were the same.

[slate arrow]

PLD at 80 has two distinct phases, an instant cast magic phase, and a melee phase

[broken pasture]

Same way to tank, same reliance on 1-2-3 combos, same buttons for defense.

[slate arrow]

oh that's all the tanks

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

Meta Jobs FAQ

Info

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

Click here for the best jobs in the game though

[remote lintel]

oh yeah

all tanks have a 1 2 3 combo

[slate arrow]

they set it up like this because back in Stormblood

DRK was just

shat on by most of the playerbase

PLD was always the off tank and WAR was always the main tank

[broken pasture]

Huh, I would have thought the opposite.

[remote lintel]

my precious drk

[broken pasture]

At least as to how those terms are used in Overwatch.

[remote lintel]

:(

[broken pasture]

It's hard to want to play another class. I hear simply by having a Gunbreaker at default gear I'm already geared up enough for all of Heavensward.

So I feel learning Machinist or whatever is just "wasting time"

[slate arrow]

Alternate jobs are exactly that, alternate jobs

you'll have to level one job all the way up in order to complete the MSQ

[remote lintel]

gunbreaker is unlocked after heavensward

[slate arrow]

gunbreaker is unlocked at 60

which usually lines up with after heavensward

but not always

[remote lintel]

oh yeah

[slate arrow]

(because road to 70 and roulettes)

[unreal aspen]

yeah if u have road to 70

you outlevel msq very hard

[broken pasture]

I don't, if that is the preferred server thing. So I take it slow.

Well maybe I did, because my Paladin was lv60 at patch 2.2 or so

[remote lintel]

[slate arrow]

spamming roulettes is also an effective way to level

well not spamming but

doing them daily

[unreal aspen]

dailies + beast tribes goes far

[remote lintel]

oh yeah beast tribes give a lot

[leaden ginkgo]

Hey guys, do I need to be disciple of land to go treasure hunting?

Im planning to get maps off the MB

[slate arrow]

no

you just need them leveled to gather

[leaden ginkgo]

Levelled to gather what?

And what level?

[slate arrow]

treausre maps

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh ok

[slate arrow]

you can only gather one every 18 hours

level 50 minimum

[leaden ginkgo]

So I can just go in blind , get a map and then go hunting?

[slate arrow]

solo maps yes

party maps no

[leaden ginkgo]

How different are the two in terms of rewards?

[slate arrow]

party maps give a ton of rewards due to the treasure dungeon they can sometimes contain

which gives anywhere from twice to up to 10 times the rewards depending on how far you can get

(and your luck)

[leaden ginkgo]

Wow I see

Thank u @slate arrow

[hot eagle]

Also for maps you need to do the quest https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Treasures_and_Tribulations to unlock the skill/actions you need for it

[leaden ginkgo]

thank u Chi @hot eagle

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[carmine laurel]

Hey winners! I have unlocked script exchange at Eulmore and the crystarium, but the option to purchase master recipes is still not avalable (the NPC tells me I'm some sort of peasant and dont qualify to buy them). How do I acess them please?

[spring oasis]

anyone know where I can get a DRK rotation thats clean and easy to go off of? I level boosted it and obviously it throws everything at you and videos dont really help in terms of setting up key spots and whats like it's 1-2-3 combo etc

[blissful lava]

Hello, when is a good time to Visit Eureka? 2 days ago I was in a room with more than 70 ppl which was really nice, I really want to finish Hydatos 😓

[whole wasp]

i recommend you join a eureka discord and see if they organize any parties

[blissful lava]

A different server you mean?

[whole wasp]

https://discord.gg/yv4MYnr

[blissful lava]

I'm on Light Phoenix btw

[leaden ginkgo]

Does that mean only for light server?

[blissful lava]

Oh

[whole wasp]

Light is a datacenter

[blissful lava]

Thank You 💙 @whole wasp

[whole wasp]

all of light plays in the same eureka instance

[leaden ginkgo]

Is there 1 for chaos too?

[whole wasp]

discord.gg/NSVkdDK

[leaden ginkgo]

Thanks!

[whole wasp]

i never raided with that before so ymmv

[blissful lava]

I'm a bit nervous though..

[neon aspen]

so i have a question

im trying to get the pegasus mount

ishgard restoration seems lke the best way

but boy is it slow

is there a better strat anyone can recommend

[whole wasp]

thats the only way to get it now iirc

[blissful lava]

Well.. PoTd or The Project

[whole wasp]

old diadem is gone.

[blissful lava]

Oh apologies, Black Pegasus from PoTD

[neon aspen]

yea im looking for the regular one

[blissful lava]

Pegasus is from the Project

[neon aspen]

i have a 69 ltw im just crafting as much as i can with

[twilit arch]

have to do restoration then, there's no other way to get the white pegasus

[neon aspen]

the gathering is SLOOOW 😦

[blissful lava]

I could help you craft if you have the Materials

[whole wasp]

it was in the moogle tomestone event last patch. thats was the only alternate way.

[slate arrow]

pegasus is from the ishgard restoration rewards

[whole wasp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slate arrow]

only fast way to get it now is to sit down and craft for hours on end

[neon aspen]

yea i wasnt on last time the moogle was giving shit away so i missed that one

at this point ive put too much time into it not to see it through

[whole wasp]

you could also go for the restoration FATEs if there are still any

[neon aspen]

im not sure if there are

[blissful lava]

ppl finish those Fast

[neon aspen]

im on hyperion, looks like we just finished the nest

[twilit arch]

ya hyperion's not going to have any more fates

[blissful lava]

Oh wow so soon

[warped nest]

I think I can put it here seeing that it is a question: does the mentor color look more orange than usual?

[twilit arch]

for now atleast

[slate arrow]

seems so

[twilit arch]

yes it is

[neon aspen]

well

[twilit arch]

it was made brighter

[neon aspen]

off to gathering hell for me then

[warped nest]

Noted, just want to make sure I am not crazy, thanks Kael

[twilit arch]

it'll be easier to get scrips if you've got an 80

[neon aspen]

content wise im still pre-stormblood

[twilit arch]

since the lvl 80 (not artisan) recipe gives the most scrips

[neon aspen]

ive been going through the msq very slowly

taking months off at a time, etc

[slate arrow]

*most scrips for the effort

[neon aspen]

but i really want this fucking mount

[blissful lava]

@neon aspen what about MB? I saw cheap materials last 3 days

[neon aspen]

ill look again, they were pretty pricey when i looked last

i only have like 700k im not a rich man

[blissful lava]

I was making the item that rewards you with 60 script btw and the materials were Cheap

[neon aspen]

yea, im looking now

its actually damn cheap

[blissful lava]

Wish Retainers could gather those too

[neon aspen]

why are people selling this for so low?

[blissful lava]

Its a bit old now I think

[neon aspen]

ha tea leaves and straw is cheap as fuck

[blissful lava]

Which item are you going for?

[neon aspen]

pigment is $$$

the rug

ltw 60

[blissful lava]

lvl 60 ?

How many scrips do you get for the item?

[slate arrow]

#doh-dol-lounge if you wanna negotiate crafts exchange

[neon aspen]

11

[slate arrow]

just know you can't exchange collectibles

[neon aspen]

or 12? not sure

its low, but like i said i want this stupid mount

[slate arrow]

step 1: get a crafter up to 80

step 2: grind ishgard

step 3: profit

[blissful lava]

I agree with Step 1

[neon aspen]

that implies i need to get story-wise to shadowbringers

and im not even at stormblood yet

[slate arrow]

if you want to use your leves efficiently yes

[blissful lava]

Don't Rush It

[neon aspen]

my fear is if i go make to the msq by the time im done this event will be over

[slate arrow]

ishgard is going nowhere

[neon aspen]

and then my progress so far will be for naught

[slate arrow]

only the FAtES are

[neon aspen]

thats good

[slate arrow]

Ishgard is permanent

[neon aspen]

im tired of crafting honestly lol

ah, thats good

yea maybe its time to recharge

thanks for the advice

this will be my first dungeon as a whm in... a long time

my poor teammates

hopefully its a 50

[quiet crystal]

Sometimes I join queue as WHM to chill with easy primal

I get shit like Titania

and people die left and right

[dapper mesa]

In terms of leveling, which is better: brayflox or qarn?

I never did qarn

[slate arrow]

the one that's a higher level

unless it's hard mode in which case aurum vale

[dapper mesa]

So qarn then. I've only done msq dungeons so I missed qarn

[twilit arch]

brayflox is for 32-34, qarn is for 35-37

[dapper mesa]

So dungeon level will always dictate more exp?

[twilit arch]

barring old level caps, yes

50/60/70 dungeons are not worth it for exp

so you would do the 47/59/69 dungeons instead

[dapper mesa]

Interesting. Thank you

[quiet crystal]

Give Qarn a try. It's not hard at all.

Although first boss always kill one newbie or two

[broken pasture]

Why is that?

That the lower level dungeons in those case give more XP?

[twilit arch]

because the 47/59/69 dungeons are leveling dungeons

the 50/60/70 dungeons are not and the exp is just added on so you're getting something when you run them for msq

[quartz shale]

the X0 dungeons are former endgame dungeons

ie no-xp dungeons

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[summer haven]

when does the billing day end? There was a lapse in my renewal and want to make sure I don't waste a day by renewing too late

[boreal aurora]

next patch in juny or july

[cunning palm]

connection problem with ffxiv... but no problem with any other games/ browsing , helppppppppppppppppp

[slate arrow]

seems to be there's a node failure

all you can do is wait

[mystic vigil]

Is Rage of Halone not usable after you learn royal authority? The skill turns in to royal authority when placed on hot bar authority is also used when halone is selected in the actions menu

[twilit arch]

!trait Rage of Halone Mastery

[zinc orbit]

**Rage of Halone Mastery** : lvl 60 PLD

Upgrades Rage of Halone to Royal Authority.

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[twilit arch]

yes, rage of halone is no useable after you learn royal authority because it upgrades into it

[warped nest]

This happen most frequently with Healers

Their attack spells get potency/animation upgrades

[mystic vigil]

I see I must have upgraded when I last played a year ago

[twilit arch]

its from the lvl 60 job quest

[warped nest]

Before or after Shadowbringers release?

Prior to Shadowbringers

They are on different combo tree

One of them is a threat combo, the other is a damage combo

[mystic vigil]

I last played it was Stormblood I think I played PLD to 62 then stopped just pick up Again

[warped nest]

Yeah

[mystic vigil]

Ok, that’s sad I like rage of halone animation

[fast hawk]

yo im dumb I need scrips cant get em

need crystal dust which needs blue scrips which needs yellow scrips which needs a way to make HQ items where do I even start

do I need to level EVERY JOB up I just have 1

I don't even want to craft I just want anima weapon done

[little swift]

crafters yellow scrips can be obtained with collectable submissions to Rowena's house of splendors

if you're looking to farm for crystal sand but do not want to level a crafter

you can consider leve-quest farming

[fast hawk]

I already have a lvl 60+ crafter and miner

[little swift]

for amber-encased vilekin

[fast hawk]

yeah the ishguard level I was spamming that for amber but got bored

[little swift]

so for crafter collectables

you can open up your timers

ctrl+u

if you have colelctables unlocked

and see what you crafter can make

quest to unlock it is in foundation

inscrutable tastes

[fast hawk]

ok, I have Rowanda on the list

[carmine laurel]

Hey winners! I have unlocked script exchange at Eulmore and the crystarium but it will not let me see/purchase master recipes? Am I missing something?

[little swift]

have you done the quest go west craftsmen sedona?

[carmine laurel]

Yes

That's the one that sends you to rhalgrs reach if I remember right

[little swift]

yes

[fast hawk]

yeah I think I did that already

[little swift]

what about the boutique always wins?

this is for sedona not you dankey

[carmine laurel]

Where does that start?

[little swift]

so for you dankey, you need to figure out what you can make as a collectable at this point

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/The_Boutique_Always_Wins

[carmine laurel]

Cheers @little swift big help

[fast hawk]

I dont know where Eulmore is

[worn galleon]

Hi ::), Whats the best way to level fishing before Diadem if you are level 36?

[fast hawk]

main is 70 goldsmith is 60

[little swift]

@fast hawk you don't need to worry about the eulmore bit that was for sedona

you can do your stuff from idyllshire

and whereever else

you have a couple options with a crafter at that level

you can open up custom deliveries with Zhloe in Idyllshire for slightly easier collectables

[fast hawk]

ok I'm in idyllshire, Im in front of the lady that sells blue scrips

[little swift]

or mass craft the rowena's collectables

and turn those in

[fast hawk]

ok easiest collectables sounds good gimmie a sec

[twilit arch]

@worn galleon leves, you can also do ocean fishing every 2 hours

[fast hawk]

mass crafting is the best plan

[little swift]

custom deliveries are once a week but you can get a large stack of scrips if you turn in decent collectability stuff

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Arms_Wide_Open

thats the quest for zhloe

[quiet crystal]

Avoid weaver or leatherworker collectables

[worn galleon]

@twilit arch Ocean fishing sounds cool il go check it out thanks 🙂

[quiet crystal]

9/10 those are the most painful to make

[warped nest]

Personally, I recommend Carpenter, Blacksmith, or Armorer

[little swift]

@fast hawk make sure when you're making the collectables you have the skill "Collectable Synthesis" turned on

they only have GSM at 60

[fast hawk]

yup, I messed up the first time for that, then learned it needs to be HQ

and gave up cause I just spent timed nodes for that

and HQ is insanely difficult for my level

Ok, so Zhloe needs "Near Eastern Antique Component Materials" and I never figured out how to get those

this is where I gave up on Zhloer

[little swift]

those are at the scrap salvager near the scrip exchange in idyllshire

x5.9 y7.3 in idyllshire if you want to be super specific

[fast hawk]

ok just bought 99 of em 😛 ok lets see...

[little swift]

@fast hawk you have a limit of 6 turn-ins to a specific custom deliveries npc per week

witha total of 12 turn-ins per week

99 is overkill since when you raise your satisfaction levels

she'll ask for soemthing else to be turned in

but i guess you can save them for when she asks to turn in the near eastern antiques again

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fast hawk]

ok cool so these are for weeklies

[little swift]

yes

[fast hawk]

and for mass farm I need to use timed nodes and cant mass farm

[little swift]

rowenas collectables change every day

but custom deliveries are by the week

[quiet crystal]

Oof 99

[fast hawk]

ayy I did it

it wasnt a lot of gill, no worries

[little swift]

just save them unless they're taking excess space

once you max out her satisfaction

she'll eventually cycle back to it

[fast hawk]

ok, so I'm doing this every week, now what

[little swift]

regular collectables

the crafter ones are just regular crafts

but with the collector's synthesis button on

[fast hawk]

perfect thats all I can do

yup

[little swift]

just figure out what items you need

and spam them

[fast hawk]

ok

[little swift]

https://ffxivteamcraft.com/search

use that to fiddle with rotations

[fast hawk]

do you know any lists that aren't timed node specific so I can mass farm em

[little swift]

so you can macro hq ones

[fast hawk]

ok cool

[little swift]

collectables for gatherers are usually timed nodes

but there are some that arent

[fast hawk]

what about crafters

[little swift]

right click them to see gathering/crafting method

[quiet crystal]

Cheaper ones usually

[little swift]

see where they come from

[nova umbra]

is it worth using requiescat + holy spirit before level 78 on paladin where I unlock enhanced requiescat?

[little swift]

or what materials are needed

[fast hawk]

yeah but I can make hundreds of cheaps I feel vs waiting an hour for timed

[slate arrow]

it's a DPS gain so of course

[little swift]

zydico it is, but you don't have the benefit of moving as much during casts

get comfy with slidecasting until you can instant cast

you're really only doing this once a minute

[nova umbra]

slidecasting? Is that when you move when the channel's about to end and you still get the skill off?

[little swift]

yes

[nova umbra]

ah okay didn't know there was a term for that lol

[quiet crystal]

Oh thats an actually mechanic

[little swift]

depending on latency you can move between 0.8 - 0.5 seconds before the cast goes off

[quiet crystal]

I thought it was a ping thing so I was having fun with that

[little swift]

when i'm on JP i can do 1.0 seconds

[quiet crystal]

Oh it is a ping thing

[little swift]

its partially a ping thing/server tick thing

its useful

[sick zenith]

@little swift proper time magic there

[nova umbra]

I've been using it to be greedy with channels before getting out of an AOE xD

[little swift]

learning how greedy you can be/ get away with it is also super good

[sick zenith]

Ah yes must squeeze out this last fire 1 before titan knocks me off the arena

[quiet crystal]

Does titan have the most theme songs?

I feel like titan music changes every little phase

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[obsidian patio]

Yep, he has like 4 or 5 in hard mode

[limber hamlet]

hey i forget, do I need shadowbringers to do palace of the dead?

[fast hawk]

thanks again @little swift ! anima weapon is now 3/8ths of the way there 😄

thanks to blue scrips

[twilit arch]

no, you need heavensward to go higher than floor 10 @limber hamlet which if you only own the base game, then you'd want to buy shb since it comes with the expacs

[limber hamlet]

so far i got the base, and heaven

[nova umbra]

I'm looking up a paladin rotation, but what is that potion thing here?

[twilit arch]

then youre good to go

its a tincture of strength, mostly there for min-maxing

can just ignore it

[nova umbra]

oh okay lol

why is spirits within used so late?

it's an instant spell so I would think you'd just use it immediately

[fast hawk]

ok, so mining collectables just seems faster, and nodes that stay still. do they need to be HQ?

[leaden ginkgo]

!action spirits within

[zinc orbit]

**Spirits Within** : lvl 30 PLD (30.0 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Potency increases up to 370 as own HP nears maximum. Additional Effect: Restores MP

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[leaden ginkgo]

Ah

@nova umbra a lot fo spells will be saved

So they're used within buff windows

[nova umbra]

ally buff windows?

[leaden ginkgo]

Yes

Like

!action devotion

[zinc orbit]

**Devotion** : lvl 64 SMN (0.0 second cooldown)

Increases damage dealt by all party members within a 15-yalm radius by 5%.
Duration: 15s

※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

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[nova umbra]

oh okay hmm, guess this is for like hard core raiding with premade groups

[limber hamlet]

hmm are there any big differences between an entry sub, and a standard?

[leaden ginkgo]

Entry sub is cheaper but 1 character per world

Standard you're allowed as many as possible

[limber hamlet]

when you say one per world, one per server batch you mean?

[leaden ginkgo]

No

One per world

[vagrant copper]

It's 1 per world, 8 total for starter, and 8 per world, 40 total for standard

[leaden ginkgo]

^

@nova umbra in any content

You will have 7 other people

And they'll be using their rotation

[limber hamlet]

hmmm

[leaden ginkgo]

So knowing your rotation is always good

[little swift]

!faq subprice

[zinc orbit]

Subscription Prices

[limber hamlet]

so unless i feel like im gonna roll more characters, entry is fine?

[leaden ginkgo]

Yes

[limber hamlet]

cool, thanks

[little swift]

Just know that it may be worth considering the 60day time card depending on your countries economy/ monetary exchangr vlaues

But that's a standard sub

[warped nest]

Regarding Spirit Within just use it whenever it is ready, or delay it just a tad if your health is too low

It is on 30s cooldown

[limber hamlet]

so im having a problem. I want to pay for another month of play on my steam acc, but i keep getting an error whenever I want to pay. S3802

[vagrant copper]

Error s3802 appears when you try to register a code without owning the game.

[limber hamlet]

most of the google references ive seen on this are 4-5 years old, so do I really need to contact steam to get this fixed, and am kinda in limbo till than?

i mean they are both in my steam library

so its safe to say i own them? heck i was playing my eight free day trial thing just fine

[vagrant copper]

Does your Mogstation page say it's a Steam account?

[obsidian wren]

You are trying to use steam payment via the mog station right?

[limber hamlet]

yes dan

and lemme make sure cor

says standard(steam)

for acc type

is there a way to register, or re register my steam keys? Maybe since its been like..3 years since ive played?

i mean i got heaven, storm and arr so far
Dont really wanna rebuy them, just not on steam

[twilit arch]

can you screenshot your mogstation account page

[limber hamlet]

yea sure, one sec

[vagrant copper]

I got nothing. I know I've heard mention of needing to do something screwy to get Steam wallet payments working but have no idea on the details.

[limber hamlet]

well i went to the product key registration thing, gonna try that real fast

as I saw that sometimes that works on steam

ok already registered, so screenshot time

what do you need me sc exactly @twilit arch

https://i.imgur.com/TpF4sSA.png

this?

[twilit arch]

yea, hn

[limber hamlet]

ok

[twilit arch]

maybe try a different browser? or private browser

[limber hamlet]

ok ill try internet explorer

really hope i dont need to deal with steam tech support etc lol

[twilit arch]

sometimes mogstation can be a bit hincky

[limber hamlet]

hmm should i cancel my service acc, and start it back up?

oh wait, cant i just pay on my bank card and call it a day?...stangely that is an option with IE

or will that not work for steam?

[frank anchor]

are these common wait times for dungeon queues going forward ?

[vagrant copper]

Urth's Fount is a basically an EX trial so it's pretty unusual for people to DF it

[limber hamlet]

yea this is weird....
on IE i have a bank card option, but not on chrome

so im nervous

if the bank card option will work for my steam acc

[frank anchor]

oh I see thank you

[twilit arch]

no harm in trying

[limber hamlet]

https://i.imgur.com/MxnqYRM.png

what i see in IE

and i mean there is harm in trying, as in it just eats my money and i get no play time

[vagrant copper]

It shouldn't. You're not required to use Steam wallet for Steam accounts.

[limber hamlet]

ok ill try it

[vagrant copper]

Sounds like your first browser was just broken

[limber hamlet]

weird, chrome usually doesnt go bonkers

[little swift]

Mogstation goes cuckoo on certain browsers

[vagrant copper]

On certain days even

[limber hamlet]

https://i.imgur.com/lyJ3kl5.png

ok my new error after i put in card info

[leaden ginkgo]

what food do i buy for blm?

[limber hamlet]

its a shame, ff14 was really fun...but i did not expect renewing a sub to be this much of a process

[twilit arch]

hmm i can't find any solutions to i601 outside of buying crysta :\

Though someone seems to have fixed theirs by updating their address ?

unfortunately mogstation payment process is...a bit fincky for whatever reason so it can bit of a pain to deal with

[limber hamlet]

a bit is the nice term lol

[twilit arch]

the only other suggestions i can offer is trying mobile data maybe, or turning off any vpn you're using if you are

[limber hamlet]

thankfully after the 6th try, it worked lmao

[twilit arch]

\o/

[limber hamlet]

when all else fails, smash my head against the wall until it breaks, I guess

thanks for the help

[twilit arch]

np, glad it worked out in the end

[limber hamlet]

same

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[vagrant copper]

It only shows such things if you don't have a recurring subscription.

Errr...

Nevermind. IDK

Read that wrong

[frank anchor]

is the navel (hard) one of those trials / dungeons that nobody queues for? :P

[vagrant copper]

Anything marked hard should pop in the trials roulette so no

[frank anchor]

awesome ty

[last vale]

noob endgame question cuz i still didnt get it: if i can buy crafted ilvl 480 items set (especially also a 480sh weapon) for gil, then what's the point in allagan phantasm stones with ilvl 460?

or crafted 480 was added later?

[twilit arch]

480 was added later

[last vale]

ok, so for my first toon - buy 480 crafted, do daily duty for 490 cap/week and progress raids then? so no need to grind 460sh gear

[meager tendon]

Is doma castle something people run regularly? like not just for completing MSQ

[obsidian patio]

if it's their highest level dungeon to grind for levels, yeah

otherwise not really.

[leaden ginkgo]

Its also in level roulette

And 50 60 70

[meager tendon]

Well I guess I just met a rude crown. I'm a sprout whm doing it for the first time and this gunbreaker on auto pilot pulled everything at once, and when there was a pause i said "i'm exhausted" and he just said "okay?". like why

[whole wasp]

50 60 70 dungeons are not in leveling fyi

those dungeons give crap exp so they are in their own roulette

[dusky nest]

@meager tendon congrats, you might have found a burgerking

[meager tendon]

whats that?

[whole wasp]

a but bad

it happens. can be terrible people too

[boreal aurora]

5.3 patch in juny or july

[whole wasp]

no idea. wait for next PLL to confirm

[meager tendon]

aww thats a bummer, it def soured that awesome dungeon for me a bit. why even have that on? its like being in a target, wearing a red shirt that says "Staff", and being annoyed when people ask you where the HDMI cables are.

[whole wasp]

yeah. i kinda wish the wasnt so easy to get

or at least were moderated

but nope, any rando that played long enough can put on the shiny hat

[boreal aurora]

whats pll

[whole wasp]

Producer Live Letter

[boreal aurora]

ah

[whole wasp]

you can see the previous one in #translations-and-liveletters

[meager tendon]

FBI, this one right here

[twilit arch]

because padjal stop aging in their early to late teens

and kan-e-senna uses make up to make herself look older

[hot crane]

hi, one dumb question: how do I choose a specific mount?

[dusky nest]

you open your mount collection and click it?

[obsidian wren]

via the mount guide, you can access it via actions > general

default keybind for actions menu is P iirc

[whole wasp]

@proper loom you can try this and see if it works

https://imgur.com/a/0wGCdtJ

[hot crane]

oh I get it I am dumb I clicked the star in mount guide lmao

[simple nymph]

is there a limit to how many of the jobs you can have? like the blacksmith, armorer, alchemist, etc?

[gritty wind]

Yes

[twilit arch]

no, you can be all jobs on one character

[gritty wind]

U can only have as many jobs as u can carry

[reef pumice]

So if I'm a Lancer character and I join the archery guild does that mess my lancer progression up.

[twilit arch]

no

[simple nymph]

interesting

[proper loom]

@whole wasp fehlercode: fxivlauncher not download patch

[reef pumice]

Do I eventually have to choose one? Or can I swap whenever?

[gritty wind]

Whenever

[twilit arch]

So long as you're not in combat/in an instance

you can swap freely

[reef pumice]

Ah, I see. Cool ty@twilit arch @gritty wind

So.the armory bonus splits the xp gained between the 2 battle classes? Am I understanding that right?

[leaden ginkgo]

a but bad
@whole wasp how to get that crown?

[mystic yew]

you get exp for your class while levelling that class@reef pumice

to level another class you have to switch to that class

you can't level 2 classes at the same time

(except scholar and summoner but we don't talk about those)

[reef pumice]

Lol ok ty

[whole wasp]

@leaden ginkgo https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Mentor_System_and_Novice_Network#Mentor_Requirements

[leaden ginkgo]

how can I become a master?

it racist tho

[obsidian patio]

It's mentor, not master.

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[shy vault]

I need to do these quests?

i doing only class and main..

but what you think guys?

[obsidian patio]

those are all optional.

[whole wasp]

and

are optional

[obsidian patio]

but the top one does unlock the hairdresser

[meager tendon]

just redid Doma. Had a way better experience, regained my healer confidence. take that burgerking

[rough anchor]

Is it true that if you enter prae with a premade full party you can skip cutscenes?

[shy vault]

what you think guys

the bluequest is that good?

[willow cipher]

Lol I got Where the Heart Is stuck there as well. Never got around to do it

[shy vault]

or should i go next with the main / class?

[obsidian patio]

@rough anchor nope

[rough anchor]

[obsidian patio]

even doing it solo unsynced won't let you skip

[willow cipher]

Blue quests with plus signs usually unlocks new gameplay features, or leads to a quest chain that unlocks them

[obsidian patio]

@shy vault definitely do the Beauty one and Lavender Beds.

[robust crow]

how should I start getting level 80 gatherer gear?

i'm 80 on both botanist and miner but haven't done anything yet

[obsidian patio]

craft it or buy from the marketboard. You can also grind white scrips for the Professional set

[robust crow]

what ilevel is the crafted gear vs white scrips?

i haven't yet done anything that awards white scrips

[obsidian patio]

i430 and i460 compared to the Professional's i470, though the i460 set beats the Professional when you meld it

[robust crow]

hopefully the gear's not too expensive...

[obsidian patio]

facet should be pretty cheap nowadays if you mean that

as for the professional stuff, you can do your weekly Custom Deliveries for a very easy source of white scrips

[robust crow]

yeah, facet, the 460

oh i've been using custom deliveries on my non-80 DoH

[simple nymph]

yo has anybody seen this sht happen in their game? it only happens when i have the window focused and it just started happening

it looks like an audio meter thing

and it moves

on both sides of my screen

[robust crow]

it's a setting in your config

[vagrant copper]

System Configuration > Accessibility Options > Enable visual alerts

[robust crow]

disable visual alerts

[simple nymph]

ah i see... what's the feature supposed to do?

[vagrant copper]

Let deaf people react to sound

[simple nymph]

ah ok

that makes sense

[rough anchor]

Can the irregular tomestones for the event in 2 days be gotten on unsync runs?

[sleek roost]

No

[robust crow]

is facet gear worth buying?

or should I just wait on white scrips

[sleek roost]

Depends if you plan on melding it properly or not and how interested you are in crafting

[whole wasp]

facet gear melded is better than white scrip gear so its up to you yup

[gritty oracle]

Can someone tell me if this earring is obtainable in-game? The NPC wearing them is Tesleen.

[robust crow]

i'm only moderately interested

i'm a level 60+ omnicrafter but it's just so I can go get things myself when I need to make something

[twilit arch]

ghost barque earrings @gritty oracle

[sleek roost]

White Scrips is fine for you then. There's going to be some changes to crafter gear in 5.3 anyway, no point going deep on materia investment this late in the patch if you're only moderately interested in crafting

[twilit arch]

from sirensong sea

[gritty oracle]

Thank you, KAel!

Kael*

[whole wasp]

oh Kael already got it

[obsidian patio]

it shares a model with a bunch of other earrings if you want similar color versions

[gritty oracle]

Oh! Should I use Garland Tools?

for that

[obsidian patio]

Yes, it's very good for finding out what NPCs are wearing and model sharing

[whole wasp]

yup. anything NPC wears can be found on garlandtools

[obsidian patio]

it also lets you recreate NPCs with their character data assuming they don't use custom stuff

Tesleen's NPC data, as an example

though note that it defaults to type 1 or 1,1 if it's custom data

so her nose might be custom

[gritty oracle]

huh

wow, this way I don't always have to ask here to get NPC gear IDd

[vestal current]

Hello,

new player here - I'm a white mage and some job actions that are at or below my current level aren't available

I thought I could learn them by going to the conjurers guild but in fact there was nothing to learn there.

So how do I learn these job specific actions ?

[mild ermine]

How should I level from 79 to 80? Roulettes are done, hunts and beast tribes done. DPS queues are very long. All I can think of is fates. Which fates and where if so?

[obsidian patio]

@vestal current White Mage quests are mainly in the South Shroud

[last vale]

[SCH] there is no difference between eos and selene right?

[obsidian patio]

correct, it's just different looks

[crystal bluff]

@vestal current the quest might not be at the conjurors guild. Is there a quest name you can click on under the MSQ in the top left?

[obsidian patio]

@mild ermine The Tempest or northern half of Kholusia

[vestal current]

WHat does MSQ stand for ?

[crystal bluff]

Main scenario quest

[vestal current]

oooh I've found it online , https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/quest/309e3e7e609/

Should this information also be available in game ?

[mild ermine]

@obsidian patio Thanks

[robust crow]

@mild ermine or just wait until tomorrow

and do something else in the meantime

might i suggest going to gold saucer for the lotto ticket

[crystal bluff]

Gambling is bad ren

[last vale]

@mild ermine - last highest shadowbringers dungeon with npcs - you dont have queue times then

just dont die ;D

[mild ermine]

My trusts aren't high enough

[crimson wind]

Can the Morin Khurr only be used by Bards?

[robust crow]

tbh just wait 6 hours for tomorrow

[last vale]

i thought they will be automatically 49

79*

[mild ermine]

Nope

[last vale]

maybe duo with tank/heal for queue

[twilit arch]

its a housing item @crimson wind

[mild ermine]

@robust crow I don't wanna wait

[twilit arch]

they're only automatically the lvl of the dungeon when youre doing it for main scenario, once you're done with shadowbringers you have to level them up @last vale

[scenic orbit]

Is there a reason why I have to keep dragging my chat UI down?

It always resets to being too tall

Fixed it there now but it keeps resetting everytime I log in

[obsidian wren]

Do your other ui elements stay in place after you move them and log out?

[scenic orbit]

Yeah

[jagged rune]

Hey guys, which one of these is better for Samurai:

[robust crow]

they're 2 different rings

wear both

[twilit arch]

pankratiast

custodian is for tanks

[robust crow]

you can't have 2 of the ring

it won't let you buy it from the shop

[twilit arch]

you can augment one

[obsidian wren]

Tenacity doesn't do anything for non-tanks

[jagged rune]

augment?

[twilit arch]

and wear a non augmented one

[jagged rune]

oh

alright thanks

[robust crow]

i guess you could but tbh that's unnecessary

[jagged rune]

i actually didnt know that at all, so ty btw

you can't have 2 of the ring

[obsidian patio]

it's because the items are labelled as unique

[obsidian wren]

You can upgrade one to an i270 and wear that + the i260

[obsidian patio]

and augmenting it makes it a different item

[twilit arch]

augmenting one will make it higher ilvl and stronge

[unreal aspen]

whats my best bet for leveling crafting classes from 70-80 over a period of time?

[twilit arch]

So its worth doing if you've got the spare poetics

[unreal aspen]

like if i just want to do the lowest effort stuff for most exp

[robust crow]

grand company turn ins and custom deliveries @unreal aspen

[unreal aspen]

ok ty

[obsidian wren]

Costs like 100 poetics over 2 seperate rings iirc

[robust crow]

for "over a period of time"

[unreal aspen]

not beast tribes?

ye just wanna do dailies

[obsidian patio]

no crafting beast tribe in shadowbringers yet

[unreal aspen]

ahhhh

[robust crow]

crystarium deliveries too

[unreal aspen]

ok ty! grinded them from 20 to 70 in 3 days and no longer have the willpower to continue lmao

[sleek roost]

At least crafting beast tribe is next

[unreal aspen]

@unique oasis i just have no life so im willing to sit in a chair for 12 hrs a day LMAO

tbh i was initially only doing it so i could get the estinien painting but something went wrong and now i can't stop doing ishgard resto

[leaden ginkgo]

Why sit in chair

I have my bed

[robust crow]

you have to buy the tokens

from the same group of vendors

and then trade it for the actual weapon

one of them sells shire weapons for tokens

[unreal aspen]

if i crafted in bed i think id fall asleep mid macro tbh

my back pain is the only thing keeping me awake

[robust crow]

i forget exactly which vendors sell which pieces but they're all sold in the same spot

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[scenic orbit]

What are the benefits of having your own housing?

[jagged rune]

How does one get "Squadron Battle Manual"? I can't find it on google

[leaden ginkgo]

Squadron battle manual comes from squadron missions

[robust crow]

there are a lot of benefits having housing

[unreal aspen]

u can have npc vendors/merchants /summoning bell/mailbox/etc there

all in one spot

and can garden/do airship stuff i think

[robust crow]

having somewhere you can teleport to, being close to a marketboard and summoning bell, having a barber/merchants/vendors

yeah

[leaden ginkgo]

Housing allows you to customise your house, have a cheap teleport to your house which is usually close to market board and doesn’t lag like limsa , Chocobo saddle

[robust crow]

you can't garden in an apartment though

[unreal aspen]

also its super cheap to teleport there

and u can decorate ur cutie house

[robust crow]

you have to log in to your house at least once every 45 days or else it gets demolished

you don't have to do that for an apartment though

[gritty oracle]

also gardening and crossbreeding

There are crossbreeding only crafting materials, which tend to be super expensive

[scenic orbit]

Crossbreeding?

[twilit arch]

chocobo saddle isn't specific to housing

[scenic orbit]

Also what do you get out of gardening

[twilit arch]

certain items can only be gotten via gardening

so it can be fairly lucrative

[scenic orbit]

Would those items be tradeable?

[gritty oracle]

It's when you have a house, and gardening plots in your house's garden. When you put two plants near each other, there's a chance that they'll crossbreed, producing a seed for a plant that's neither of the two

[scenic orbit]

Oh

[gritty oracle]

For example, azeyma rose (although the market for it is currently crashed on my server), jute, glazenut

[scenic orbit]

Cool. What sort of things would ya craft with it?

[gritty oracle]

Mostly glamour or minions. Azeyma rose is used for Coronal Wristbands, and a recipe I really want to craft which requires both jute yarn and glazenuts is the pillow minion

[simple nymph]

hey question, do you have to do that chocobo mount quest before you can use a mount at all?

[unreal aspen]

yes

iirc

[gritty oracle]

but I got no house and I refuse to pay 100-150k on the MB for it so that project is on the backburner.

yes

[twilit arch]

yes you need to have your chocobo before you can use mounts

[gritty oracle]

when you join a Grand Company, you want to accept the quest My Little Chocobo, then go on with the MSQ so you get 300 free GC seals, then buy the issuance and *then- unlock your chocobo.

[simple nymph]

ok thanks!

[gritty oracle]

Also, at level 30 you might want to swing by Camp Tranquil and get the quest My Feiste Little Chocobo. It unlocks your chocobro, aka battle companion. My chocobro has saved my ass so many times.

Feisty*

[jagged rune]

guys where do I see the list of free companies in my server? there was like a portal where you could apply and such, but I can't find it anywhere on google

[gritty oracle]

You have to get invited by a member

You can typically have recruiters shouting in capital cities, and PM them for an invite, or look online

look in the recruitment channel for your data centre

[leaden ginkgo]

I just returned and closing in on 80. As a secondary, how is astro these days?

[gritty oracle]

Some people like it, some people dislike it. A fair few are still bitching at how it got "dumbed down" in ShB. I personally love it, although I like SCH better.

[leaden ginkgo]

Ah then I shall try both. Healing is a bit scary but I'd like to try it.

[gritty oracle]

but just because I don't have my AST at high level and have to rely on GCDs for healing.

I recommend going with conjurer -> white mage. It's the easiest of the three

[leaden ginkgo]

Ah that seems sensible yes.

[cunning palm]

can someone tell me how od you use limit break?

[gritty oracle]

The main point of healing is doing as much DPS as possible while keeping everyone alive. (Alive, not at 100%. Don't overheal or waste healing on people who are safe.)

Open your Actions and Traits, go to General, and pull it on your hotbar

preferably to a hotkey you won't fatfinger

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea the dps while healing is what scares me. 😂

[gritty oracle]

honestly being a healer is being a DPS without a rotation who also keeps people alive. DPSing is easy (one single-target and one AoE spell), healing is easy once you get into it, and knowing when to switch from one to the other comes with experience

[sleek roost]

Nothing wrong with easing into it. Lower level dungeons especially you'll often find times when there's nothing to do so you might as well dps to pass the time. Then it becomes a habit

[gritty oracle]

of course, there are nuances, but by the time you get to a level these nuances matter, you typically have a good understanding on them.

[leaden ginkgo]

Alright. You are making it sound manageable. So, thanks for that.

[gritty oracle]

I can give you several healing tips (WHM is the only healer I never really got into so I'll be lacking on the class specific part)

[rough anchor]

Maybe a stupid question, but, uh, where in my inventory is the sphere scroll for the zodiac weapon quest

[gritty oracle]

Key Items?

[arctic gust]

check key items

[gritty oracle]

sounds like something that yould be a key item

[leaden ginkgo]

I'll Def ask some tips when I try it out. With my brain I'd probably forget what you advice atm without being behind the wheel. 😁

[jagged rune]

look in the recruitment channel for your data centre
@gritty oracle recruitment channel?

[gritty oracle]

fair enough

[leaden ginkgo]

I'm guessing potd and dungeons to get the basics down.

[rough anchor]

Ah wait, I haven’t apparently gotten it, despite having talked to the NPC with the ink in my inventory

[gritty oracle]

#recruitment-light for you

in this server

I don't recommend potd because you level really fast in it and won't get any of your class quest reward spells

or your job if you get to 30

take it from me, being a level 50 gladiator with half your kit missing is awkward.

plus Cure II, your healing bread and butter, is actually a quest reward.

[unreal aspen]

lvl 50 gladiator : o

did u get all the way there with just potd?

[gritty oracle]

yep

did floor 1-50 because I wanted to get to 15 in the overworld and I was sick of spamming leves.

[unreal aspen]

lmaoo it makesme think of this one dude who pulled up in my lvl 50 dungeon

as an archer

bc apparently he was rping

[fresh lodge]

Uhhh

[unreal aspen]

didn't like it..........

[robust crow]

not as bad as an ice mage

[fresh lodge]

You get your class quest reward spells in PotD

[unreal aspen]

LMAO

blizzard only

[gritty oracle]

yeah, but I still got none of the paladin stuff

[fresh lodge]

Oh you went in before getting your job?

If you don't have your job, just farm 1-10

Or just do 51-60, not like PotD is hard /shrug

[gritty oracle]

I went in around level 3. Came out from floor 50 as level 14 and a bit. Class quests got me to 15, and from there it was smooth sailing.

[arctic gust]

PoTD & HoH can also easily be facerolled, not recommended if you seek to "learn" a job.. i.e. tank wont learn tank mechanics, as its free-for-all and most of the time nobody follows the tank and do their own thing... and that is when you're lucky enough for the matchmaker to set you up in a normal composition group lol

[sleek roost]

Not that tanks need potd anyway

[arctic gust]

i just used tanks as exemple 😛

[next wind]

guys, so I watched an interesting video about train hunts and it's been said one should start participating before the end game, but when discord I joined is mostly around A-S ranks, and since I'm just 1/3 into the SB would it still be worth trying? Since I'm mostly locked to HW areas and no flying in SB?

[arctic gust]

point is.. its not optimal place to "learn" a job

[fresh lodge]

Hunt trains are really an endgame activity

[next wind]

okay that's what I thought too

[fresh lodge]

Since most people only do the ShB hunts, you can't join in until 80 anyways

[arctic oriole]

got a question, is it worth to make those low lvl quests in other citys?

[robust crow]

most of the time not really, unless they're a blue quest that unlocks something

[arctic oriole]

so u just get a few xp + gil nothing else expect its a blue ones?

[robust crow]

yea pretty much

[arctic oriole]

but its not necessary to unlock some other quests

or have to do a amount of quests etc to unlock this ones

[robust crow]

if you're leveling up

you can effectively skip every single quest that isn't MSQ

all the non-blue quests you can return later and do if you want, but they're low xp

[fresh lodge]

Outside of the very start of the game, its not worth doing regular sidequests

[robust crow]

there's better ways of leveling than doing those quests

[arctic oriole]

k cause i dont want to miss anything like on this quest u get that item which u need for whatever xD

[robust crow]

you won't have any of that

FF14 marks every single quest that could give you something important

with the blue quest marker

[arctic oriole]

Awesome!

[robust crow]

if it's not blue then at best it rewards you with a glamour or pet or something

[whole wasp]

thats what the + is for.

[gritty oracle]

When I queue up for a roulette, when is it determined what dungeon, trial etc am I entering? When I queue up, when the notification pops up or when I actually enter?

[robust crow]

when the notification pops

the dungeon is already determined

and you won't know what dungeon it is until you enter

[gritty oracle]

Ah

Thanks!

[robust crow]

the only way you can know for sure what dungeon you will get

[gritty oracle]

So if I wanted to tank my ilvl by undressing, I would need to stay undressed the entire time? How does that work with switching jobs?

[robust crow]

why would you want to tank your ilevel?

to force a specific dungeon?

[gritty oracle]

For example when fishing for a specific dungeon

Yeah

[robust crow]

i would assume you have to stay undressed the whole time

[gritty oracle]

Or if I get lag and know that I wouldn't be able to handle dungeons above a certain level

[robust crow]

because if you job change out after queueing, you'll be forced to change back before accepting the queue

i.e. if you queue as DPS and then change to a crafting class

[sleek roost]

You can undress to bait lower dungeons so long as its the same job

Just put your gear back on when you get in

[grave peak]

Question. Is leveling through heavensward particularly slow?

[sleek roost]

Not particularly. You'll overshoot 50 a fair bit by the time you finish ARR anyway

[robust crow]

leveling is a pretty constant pace the whole game

[arctic gust]

i dont think it works that way, it go by your character level matched up with the levels of the other players you're thrown with.. cause i qued for leveling roulette before in swimsuit outfit (the actual Lv 1 glam piece, not glam over) and i got thrown in Dohn Meg (faerie dungeon Lv 73)

[robust crow]

the big hurdle is level 50 post ARR's 100 quests of almost-0-xp

[sleek roost]

That shouldn't be possible Shey. The game actively avoids putting you in dungeons with ilvl restrictions you don't meet at time of queueing otherwise it would be a nightmare with undergeared tanks

[grave peak]

Yea I am getting like 4K xp per quest

[sleek roost]

People have been avoiding certain 24-mans like that since forever

[robust crow]

you aren't in heavensward yet

you are still post-ARR

[grave peak]

Ahhh is there anyway I can just get to heavenswards

[robust crow]

spend money

and buy the story skip

(but don't do that)

[sleek roost]

(It does get better after the ARR grind though, honest)

ARR is getting shortened in 5.3 at least

[arctic gust]

story skip on mogstation.. but i wouldnt recommend it

[robust crow]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Seventh_Astral_Era_Quests

you have to slog through

this whole thing

before you actually hit heavensward

but I highly highly suggest you don't do that

because towards the end of that list, the story starts picking up very very fast

just tough it out and do leveling/msq roulettes if you want some levels

[unreal aspen]

yeah if u skip last half

you will be very confused come heavensward

if u do really not want to play it tho, you can always story skip, and watch all the cutscenes in an inn room

or on youtube

and read a recap

i think it's good to do it in sections if u dont mind taking it slow

when i tried to grind it out as fast as possible i got super burnt out

[robust crow]

i was on those fucking quests for a week

but hey some parts of it were enjoyable at least

[unreal aspen]

i ragequit the game for 8 months LMAO

after the chocobo sniffing quest

[grave peak]

Hmm thanks ! Honestly I was so confused why I was getting only 4K xp. I will probably over level heavensward before I get there honestly.

[robust crow]

no you definitely will

[sleek roost]

200%

[robust crow]

you'll catch up on msq levels eventually anyway

[unreal aspen]

yeah by stormblood/beginning of shb

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[unreal aspen]

you'll probably be around the same level as msq

[twilit arch]

you would need a second conjurer

[arctic gust]

you'd need a 2nd conji on your team in that case

[grave peak]

Well thanks sofi and Renaulte

[robust crow]

yeah pretty sure I was like, level 54 when I actually hit heavensward

none of those levels were from the quests

it was all from daily msq and leveling dungeons

[unreal aspen]

if you have road to 70 you outlevel megafast too

but thats onyl if u made ur chara on a preferred server

[arctic oriole]

best way to lvl up quickly?

[unreal aspen]

dailies

do all ur roulettes

and spam the dungeon that is closest to ur level

[robust crow]

leveling up quickly is a bad metric if it's your first 80

because everything you do is tied to MSQ anyway

you have to do the entire story before you unlock the endgame

[unreal aspen]

^

no point in grinding to 80 if you're not also there on msq

[robust crow]

focus less on leveling up quickly and more on enjoying the story at a comfortable pace

as long as you keep up with your MSQ level requirement you're doing fine

[arctic oriole]

btw at which lvl i can get my first pet? im 18

walking is so tired xD

[robust crow]

mount?

level 20

[arctic oriole]

ye mount

[robust crow]

sorry, 20

[arctic oriole]

2 lvls awesome

[twilit arch]

keep in mind you need to be at the appropriate point int he main scenario quest

[left cedar]

Can you turn in levequests with timers early?

Before the timer runs out? Or do I just have to sit around and wait for 5 minutes before it ends?

[robust crow]

yeah, you have to unlock joining a grand company before you get your first mount

what class are you planning on leveling as?

@arctic oriole

[arctic oriole]

want to make dragoon

[robust crow]

[mystic marsh]

i want to try the game but i was wondering which server to choose and if it even matters which one i do choose

[twilit arch]

doesn't matter too much, though its strongly recommended for new players to choose a preferred server for the exp boost. The game automatically defaults to a preferred server when choosing a server, after character selection, if one is open to new character creation

[mystic marsh]

and what is the difference between the preferred server vs a normal one except for the xp boost?

[robust crow]

datacenter matters more

it's just the XP boost

which is significant

anyone on any server can play together as long as they belong to the same datacenter

people across datacenters can't play together

Crystal is the unofficial RP datacenter

so if that's your thing you'll probably want Crystal

otherwise Aether and Primal are standard NA datacenters

[mystic marsh]

i'm eu

so which ones would that be

[robust crow]

ah. unsure how the distribution is for eu

[twilit arch]

Main notable EU servers are Shiva, which is known for its german community, and Moogle, which is known for its french community

otherwise, the datacenters for eu are pretty close to each other

[mystic marsh]

okay thanks for the help

[simple nymph]

what quest is it that lets you join a grand company? i'm wondering if i've already done it and just didnt notice xD

[twilit arch]

"The Company You Keep"

[simple nymph]

thanks!

[solemn delta]

So do I need to get my squadron up to a certain rank before the next promotion becomes available? Ie post ARR promotions?

He just says there are no further promotions at this time

[robust crow]

are you captain?

or are you 2nd lieutenant

captain is currently the highest rank

[solemn delta]

Dunno how to check now im in dungeon damn 15 minutes I'll check

[twilit arch]

First Lieutenant requires you to get 1 member of your squadron to lvl 40, though you likely won't be able to do the flagged mission right at lvl 40

Captain requires you to do 5 different dungeons with your squadron before the flagged mission will appear

[solemn delta]

Oh so there definitely is more

Cause there is stuff I can't buy.

[robust crow]

2nd lieutenant is the highest you can get before squadrons

getting there requires filling out your GC hunting log and turning in seals for promotions

[solemn delta]

Yeah I've done that. I don't think you can get squadrons before that can you?

[robust crow]

you unlock squadrons at 2nd lieut iirc

[rough lance]

i dunno where and how to start any doh or dol classes >.<

[fresh lodge]

Nope, they're unlocked with 2nd LT

[forest laurel]

squadrons are at 2nd lieutenant

[robust crow]

so it'll be some time between 2nd LT and 1st LT

at least a week or two

because you have to recruit members and level them up

[fresh lodge]

@rough lance Just pick up their starting quest in any of the starting 3 cities just like picking up a new class

[boreal aurora]

i need to know how long my server stays preffered

[fresh lodge]

Until its not

[rough lance]

noo not that

[robust crow]

should stay preferred until the next patch I hear

[rough lance]

it's like which class to start 1st

[boreal aurora]

better start playing again then

[fresh lodge]

It stays preferred until SE decides the population is at a good amount

[robust crow]

just start whatever one you like the most

[fresh lodge]

Uhhh, Weaver is a good start since it makes the gear

[rough lance]

mus lvl tthem equally?

that's wad i read

[robust crow]

all of them have recipes that require each other so if you only do 1 DoH you're gonna be dependent on another crafter

[forest laurel]

yeah preferably

so you can keep reusing the gear

[rough lance]

urgh

[fresh lodge]

Levelling them up equally is the best way since a lot of the crafts require mats from other crafters

[twilit arch]

its pretty strongly suggested to level them all (though you can skip cul if you like) because they rely on each other for materials

[fresh lodge]

Though you don't "have" to

Its better in the long run

And cheaper

[unreal aspen]

i would def rec levelling everything at the same time

or else ur gonna get gated by mats unless ur rich enough to just buy everything

[rough lance]

so messy

.<

i'll try

[quartz sun]

Hi all - could someone help me understand how Linkshells work?
In-particular, I want to know about S class Hunts and when they spawn. I used to use the Novice Network for that but as soon as I finished Stormblood, it got removed.

[twilit arch]

linkshells are just private chat channels

You have to be invited to one

can shout in limsa saying you're looking for an invite to a hunt linkshell

[quartz sun]

Ahh, so presumably there's a "hunt" linkshell - got it

[robust crow]

right now I suggest getting your DoH to 20 and then doing ishgard restoration to level @rough lance

it'll save you a big headache and you can pretty much have mats for all of them

though you'll need a DoL to gather the mats from the ishgard restoration instance

[rough lance]

hmmm

[robust crow]

or buy it, I guess

[wheat hazel]

Hey I’m currently contemplating which heals to play I want to play sch since I main summoner and could help with q times aswell but hear a lot of negative things about how it’s heals aren’t good and such

[echo tapir]

@quartz sun people like using Hunt discords too for their datacenter if there is an active one

that was way more active for world boss fates e.g.

[agile laurel]

on the contrary. SCH has 3 aetherflow stacks per minute to do large OCGD heals

However their potency, and the fact you can still spam physick/succor if needed and use Adloqium to apply shields (and Emergency Tactics to make Adlo just heal)

I'd say SCH is one of the more comfortable healers, unless your tank is incredibly dire and makes you burn all your aetherflow

It does however ask a little more proactivity of you compared to whm/ast I feel

Especially on entry level

[magic light]

use whispering dawn more

[agile laurel]

There's a bit of an awkward point on leveling where the fairy doesn't carry you and you haven't unlocked aetherflow actions

However, it's more than doable