@fringe finch character config, hotbar, sharing
#questions-and-help
quartz shale
warped nest
Those will be universal
hoary storm
do I lose my retainer lvl if i change from dow to dol?
fringe finch
Thanks heaps, guys! That's going to save me a massive headache
quartz shale
@hoary storm yes
warped nest
We recommend keeping around 3-4 hotbar (keyboard user) not shared or 3 cross hotbar (controller user) not shared
hoary storm
Starts at 1 again?
quartz shale
other than going from class to job (i think) retainers will always delevel
warped nest
You are free to do whatever you want for the rest
fringe finch
@warped nest thanks, mate
surreal lichen
Are there classes like the conjurer which gives a unicorn?
obsidian patio
the tank jobs have mounts from achievements
surreal lichen
ie. give something for all classes
obsidian patio
but besides that, no.
surreal lichen
ahhh. cheers - will look into em
obsidian patio
There's also the Amaro mount for having all jobs to level 80.
surreal lichen
Just started and havent got the expansion, so that wont be happening soon 😅
quartz shale
@surreal lichen bear in mind the tank mounts are..... time consuming to get
obsidian patio
ehh, you can easily solo grind for them if you want
surreal lichen
is it something I'd just get over time or is it something you literally have to go out of the way for if you want to get them?
leaden ginkgo
do I put heavens eye on hoshikiri for +crit?
obsidian patio
for the unarmored versions you'd have to do high-end content like extreme trials, savage raids, and i think normal-mode raids past 60 count.
!item Hoshikiri
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obsidian patio
yep, unless you need to meld Skill Speed to hit a specific GCD
leaden ginkgo
okay
I guess I should worry about materia when I get endgame armor?
I'm currently i473 haha
surreal lichen
I see. Only level 20 on the gla i've got and 30 on a blm, so I wont get them for a long time 😅
obsidian patio
you can start now with welfare/cheap melds using tier 6 materia
you always get those back if you choose the "retrieve materia" option
lost star
If i've sat in a alliance raid queue for 40 min and there's only one other dps should I just requeue later in the day?
warped nest
Probably
lost star
ohh well
leaden ginkgo
do materia transfer over when you upgrade a relic?
quartz shale
you're trading in the old for the new, so i dont believe so
edgy gate
@leaden ginkgo nope
edgy gate
@oak ice DDD best choice
leaden ginkgo
nice
oak ice
I like Emperor more, he's just raw cool, but DDD has great faces (not the channel, tho)
edgy gate
leaden ginkgo
savage aim is for crits, yeah?
rich field
slightly unsettling that there is a bust size for female toons xD
echo tapir
?
edgy gate
@leaden ginkgo yes
echo tapir
i wouldnt say the bust size slider is unsettling, i think more customization is good
edgy gate
bust slider on lala is unsettling
echo tapir
sometimes i want to play a flat bard cause it just looks better
tbh
dont wanna think about the whole 'lop off the right breast' thing
rich field
I've just never seen you able to alter boob size in a game before lol
glossy sapphire
isnt it usual in mmos
edgy gate
are u new to mmos?
glossy sapphire
I make mine small as possible because fighting with big tiddies sounds painful
wintry chasm
Not like the slider really matters since gear changes chest size anyway to fit
edgy gate
ur the WoL. i think ur tiddies jiggling isnt any more painful than the monsters you fight
glossy sapphire
ur the WoL. i think ur tiddies jiggling isnt any more painful than the monsters you fight
lmfao
wintry chasm
I do feel like if there isn't any real question from this it should probably go into #general-discussion though
glossy sapphire
my bad will do!
rich field
What does picking a deity do?
and ur character's bday?
Does it have any major effect on gameplay?
twilit arch
no its just roleplay fluff
rich field
so it doesn't actually do anything in the game? lol
oak ice
Nope, and race has miniscule stat differences
rich field
well thats good to hear
kind of a shame though, thought picking a deity would do something cool, oh well
whats the difference between arcanist and thaumaterge?
Conjurer I'm guessing summons stuff and Arcanist is like a generic mage, no idea bout Thaumaterge tho
edgy gate
arcanist turns into scholar/summoner
thaumaturge turns into a black mage
funnily enough, conjurer turns into a white mage
silk olive
Is there a way to figure out what houses are open where?
edgy gate
i thought the same for conjurer when i first started, so i dont blame you
rich field
so at the start u just pick ur class based on what it turns into?
edgy gate
@silk olive click the big aetheryte in any city with housing, press residental areas
the open ones have prices on them rather than names
though if u dont have a house to transfer from, there is a random timer that prevents you from buying
@rich field yessir. or base city if ur trying to play with friends
silk olive
So there isn't like an online interactive thing that shows me all the open spaced per server?
twilit arch
nope
edgy gate
not that i know of
and that kind of website would be detrimental
considering the amount of ppl with max gil and 100+ alts to gobble them instantly
rich field
ah so only certain classes have the same cities so u would be forced into those just to play with em? That kinda sucks
twilit arch
only for the first 15 levels of main scenario
silk olive
I mean houses can't even be deconstructed right now so I know nothing is open. but the new patchis coming
twilit arch
The story converges into one point after that
edgy gate
yep. and as kael said. its only the first 15 lvls. i was just saying if u wanted to hang out immediately
twilit arch
yes main scenario quests are the story quests that you are required to do
warped nest
The first dungeon won't even happen before you visited all 3 cities iirc
rich field
ok got it awesome
edgy gate
@silk olive ull randomly see one open since abandoned homes explode after a month
warped nest
Seeing that you are this new, the only advice we have for now is enjoy the story and don't hesitate to ask questions
twilit arch
auto demolish is currently disabled
warped nest
Definitely don't make assumptions
edgy gate
seriously?
twilit arch
yeah, we're currently in the middle of a pandemic crisis
eager delta
i remember a discord where you had class channels
with alot of info on how to play a class
wich gear etc
little swift
!faq balance
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eager delta
oh ty
rich field
currently playing on a trial account, if I wanted to upgrade and get the actual game, could I still use my same SE credentials for my trial account? And I assume the trial character I made would be erased on the actual game
rich field
oh awesome
latent python
the security token add a 2nd free aetehryte right? does it need an additional payment ?
wintry chasm
You don't really get a free aetheryte in the first place but yeah no payment or anything, just get the OTP stuff and you'll get a free aetheryte location
whole wasp
yes if you want the physical token. its free if you use their authenticator app
if you do use the app, make sure you write down the emergency code
my screen cracked on my phone when i dropped it and couldn't log on for a while
rich field
Is it a good idea to buy the game from the FF site? Like the base windows version?
rich field
yea, just didn't know if like the steam version ran smoother or had more of a discount than anywhere else
whole wasp
the game is the same across the two versions
twilit arch
steam doesn't go on sale that often
twilit arch
but if you like to use steam wallet to pay for things, or you're looking for regional pricing, steam has that
whole wasp
if its not something you care about, then its up to you really
rich field
oh gotcha, game with shadowbringers on steam is $60 and $20 without any xpacs, just wasen't sure if it was cheaper anywhere else, should prolly check the actual site lmfao
If I purchase Shadowbringers, does it come with all previous xpacs as well?
twilit arch
yes
rich field
Sorry for the crapload of questions lol
twilit arch
but keep in mind you need the base game as well
marble drift
I don't wanna sound consending but. If the cost is an issue. Are you sure a subscription based game is right for you?
twilit arch
so you're looking at 60$, ignoring any sales, whether you buy the complete edition (base game + expansions) or if you buy the base game and then shadowbringers seperately
random oxide
If I reset a retainer to change their job, is it possible to level it back to max level with only lv1 weapon and no other gear, via quick exploration?
rich field
No no the cost isn't the problem at all, I was just curious if there was a sale going on somewhere for the game, I'm an avid coupon and discount code user lol
marble drift
Alright. Just checking.
warped nest
You can do quick exploration but it is just not as fast
random oxide
As fast as* what?
warped nest
Just buy them some cheap gear from the NPC vendors
twilit arch
doing specific 1hr ventures every hour when you're on
quick ventures xp is random, as it depends entirely on what your retainer brings back
twilit arch
specific 1hr ventures are much more consistent
warped nest
But it is not worth the Gil saved imo
random oxide
Hmm. I think I can deal with that. Would the loot pool be the same as a quick exploration of a max lv with gear?
warped nest
Shit gear = bad pool
random oxide
Hmmm bummer
warped nest
Just upgrade at lvl 15, 30, 50, 60, and 70
If you are that short on gils you should focus on making more gils
random oxide
at lv 80 the AF gear is more than enough for the ilv requirement right?
random oxide
Fastest hunting/rare loot pool
twilit arch
hmm iirc eden gate normal ilvl is cap
but af4 should be enough for specific ventures
warped nest
People usually gear their retainers with hand me downs
random oxide
Yeah, my first retainer already has my old tank gear. I want to reset my 2nd and 3rd to tank as well (instead of DoL right now)
drifting burrow
am i not allowed to sleep in my bed in my apartment?
twilit arch
you can use /doze to lay on the bed
drifting burrow
oh
twilit arch
but if you want the sleep animation that plays when you log in/out at an inn, unfortunately that's not possible
leaden ginkgo
I bought some cheap quickarm vi materia to help me hit a low cooldown for my rotation, is this good? haha
leaden ginkgo
?
twilit arch
you can log out there, but you're teleported out side when you log in
sick zenith
I hope they add that in
twilit arch
iirc they said its cos those house/apartment technically doesn't "exist" until it needs to (i.e when you enter it)
marble drift
@leaden ginkgo Most classes want X amount of skill speed to hit a set amount of attacks within a cooldown window. If you're not 80 yet don't worry about it. If you are 80. Look here
!faq balance
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stark delta
What is the quickest way to leveling weaving to 19
marble drift
and then just spam something you can make with vendor mats
sick zenith
Can someone bring up the 1 to 70 levelling guide
stark delta
Does quality matter if im just doung it for exp
little swift
!faq altlvlguide
zinc orbitBOT
sick zenith
Ty
little swift
How much you fill quality bar will determine hownmucb more exp you earn
Its tougher to gain quality in early lvls of crafting though
whole wasp
Yea just 1% craft all the stuff should be pretty big already.
keen storm
with the new Moogle Treasure Trove - The Hunt for Law Commences May 18! - does the old items come back too ? o.o
obsidian patio
only the items listed on the event page
keen storm
Ohh sad ._. ok thx~
pine onyx
Just finished the ARR spam after 4 days of grinding, any tips on the first few things to do for Heavensward? Unlocked Ishgard and I'm just getting ready to do my BLM class quests
stable hinge
do specific weapons give the same materia each time you extract or is it random
maiden palm
hello guys i was wondering cause i took one year break and im missing 2 expansions . if i get shadowbringers do i get 30 days free ?
obsidian patio
nope, materia is semi-random
twilit arch
no @maiden palm
obsidian patio
If it still works as I remember it, the materia you get is based on the item level of the item and if it's combat, crafting, or gathering gear.
but besides the combat/crafting/gathering split, the exact materia given is completely random
bleak stratus
how do farm poetics outside roulette
obsidian patio
run any level 50/60/70 content you haven't done yet for the first time bonus
If you're willing, Eureka is also a pretty nice source of poetics once you're a high enough level to easily help with the NMs
And then in terms of things to spam, ARF and Ghimlyt dark usually have pretty decent queue times.
hot eagle
run alexander or coils unsync if it's your first time, also hunt trains
vocal star
how do i enter diadem?
obsidian patio
I can't remember the name of the NPC, but one of the two north of the board that shows the server's progress in the firmament.
fierce niche
hi there, I need someone 2 play the the fight against zenos with not the dungeon), I'm a dark knight lv71 on louisoix
marble drift
the 1v1 against him? thats a solo duty. no-one can help you with it
fierce niche
I mean the lv 70 thing u need 2 do 4 the quest stormblood
obsidian patio
they're a pretty decent source of daily experience
so it helps with leveling up jobs
clever quiver
for alt jobs?
obsidian patio
yep.
clever quiver
Nice, and it's all cosmetic. One tribe isn't better than the other?
obsidian patio
Well they each have their own level ranges they're good for.
clever quiver
ahhhh i seee
wintry chasm
and some do level other things
like some beast tribe quests do crafting, some do gatherering, some do battle stuff
obsidian patio
@fierce niche I don't remember another zenos fight in that quest besides the one in the dungeon
clever quiver
oh i see!!
obsidian patio
unless you mean the trial right after.
fierce niche
I dont know if the fight is called the same in english, but just literaly translated it says "royal menagerie"
wintry chasm
Called the same thing
obsidian patio
Yeah that's the trial I was talking about.
fierce niche
oh, ok
obsidian patio
should be able to just queue for it unless it's absurdly long for you.
fierce niche
Im in queue for 46 min now ^^'
leaden ginkgo
@fierce niche are you in North America? Since if so that isnt surprising; North American servers appear to be very slow early in the morning
obsidian patio
type /busy
stable hinge
Thanks
obsidian patio
or target yourself and press square to edit your search info and change it from there.
leaden ginkgo
Im unable to quickly recognize each server region yet, to be clear :p
leaden ginkgo
Ah wierd
fierce niche
its about 12:30 here
leaden ginkgo
Only other thing that would majorly affect it is which class you are, like are you quing as a dps?
fierce niche
Im play as tank
leaden ginkgo
(even then though, 46 mins sounds like a lot) yeah idk why then
wintry chasm
WAIT WHAT?
That was absurdly long for DPS but for a tank!?
go to duty finder and check what language you are set for
Something is gravely wrong
fierce niche
that could be the problem, I'll have a look
leaden ginkgo
Yeah, especially in Europe I expect having like, German checked could be a big benefit
fierce niche
It probably was, was set just 2 german but not english xD
leaden ginkgo
Oh well yeah
wintry chasm
English would be a big help
leaden ginkgo
That'll do that lul
wintry chasm
Try again and see what happens
obsidian patio
I'd also turn french on as a "just in case"
wintry chasm
ehh
agile laurel
I saw a meme about leveling dps 70-80 by throwing the trust party at trash and going to watch netflix - is this actually a thing you can do?
wintry chasm
I could make a joke there but I won't
obsidian patio
@agile laurel it doesn't work for bosses, but yeah you can do that for trash packs
wintry chasm
As a DPS pretty much
fierce niche
just turned them all on, now estimated queueing time is about 5min xD
agile laurel
niiice
wintry chasm
Pretty sure that wouldn't work as a tank or healer though
Since you know, healing is important and so is taking hits
marble drift
well...you could probably do the first few trash packs before the boss and then resetting
agile laurel
i mean I'm leveling blm so it's not like it's particularly slow going if I'm pressing my buttons
marble drift
but that would be EXTREMELY slow
agile laurel
however i did find i need to actually level my trusts now so that's a bit of a headdesk
leaden ginkgo
Yeah, even in like, eastern Europe I wouldn't be surprised if English massively increases que times @fierce niche . Only place I'd be sure it wouldn't have a huge impact that also has a playerbase is Japan
Er
decreases que times, or increases the speed of the que
I'm tired lol
fierce niche
np xD
clever quiver
Is there a website that shows you all the quests and what they unlock? Also all the possible titles are how to get them?
proud willow
!faq contentunlock
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proud willow
and for all titles, you can use lalachievements.com
obsidian patio
I like using https://ffxivcollect.com/
clever quiver
These are exactly what I was thinking
golden crystal
so i got a question. why is it so dang hard to find people to play with? -_ - This is by far the least social mmo ive ever tried. been asking everyone I've seen fore days to group up and do some questing. Offering to fil any role needed. Those that bother to answer are "Busy" the others must be as well cause the just ignore. Its a decent game but if i wanted to do a solo gindfest i think id prefer to do it on something i know better .
cunning palm
i acidentally removed spring, where can i add it back?
obsidian patio
Jump? Actions & Traits > General
leaden ginkgo
@golden crystal i think the best would be to join a active FC to find people to play with and help you
robust gazelle
@golden crystal I was watching the NoClip documentary on FFXIV and the devs talked about how Japanese gamers were more socially active in Tells than anything, so there isn’t an abundance of social features for general chat etc. because of that.
golden crystal
tried that all they do is run high level dungeons. just looking for some newbie players like me to learn the game with -_-
robust gazelle
Then you probably need a different FC. If they’re focused on End Game dungeons and you’re leveling it doesn’t seem like a great fit.
golden crystal
@robust gazelle noted thank you suppose the does explain it
robust gazelle
It’s weird because people overall are exceptionally polite in XIV compared to other MMO’s. A lot of people are just quiet. I think the chat being a bit obtuse makes people less likely to utilize it.
golden crystal
polite? that's not been my experience. suppose this game just at is not for me. Back to wow were things make sense lol
fleet basin
are you kidding, ffxiv player-base is delicious comparatively to WoW. 2.1k only experience rio (2 days into patch).
magic light
got a unique drk that actually uses living dead, as a scholar, I've decided to think that using recitation and excog and a few lustrates or emergency tactics to heal them to full, using just lustrate and emergency tactics was not enough
leaden ginkgo
i am playing since ~2 weeks, i was lucky to get invited to a friends FC that is really helpful, but besides that people i met outside the FC were really helpful in dungeons, questing i do usally alone because i like to watch videos n stuff to enjoy the story 🙂
golden crystal
@fleet basin in wow you can shout for a group and have one inside of ten mins, been looking for anyone dang near begging g for a week in ff14 and ive had two that never lasted longer than it took to finish what they were working on.
robust gazelle
I’ve spent the last month blitzing a new character to 80 (on 5.1 MSQ) and have had really enjoyable interactions so far. In other MMO’s people wiping or dying in fights turns into a mud flinging match. No such experience with XIV. I imagine people’s mileage varies though.
fleet basin
by all means @golden crystal you're welcome to go farm azerite for the next 6 months waiting for shadowlands. All power to you mate.
marble drift
Real talk. Are you asking for a group to quest with? Quests are largely solo
Infact some quests demand you to be alone. Putting you into a solo duty and not letting any party members join
golden crystal
i was asking to group for anything, need a healer to keep you alive? need a tank to soak damage while ya quest? didnt care what they were doing i was just tired of playing alone. but the casters would rather die on thier own and the tanks would rather wait to heal out of combat than group outside a dungeon
marble drift
Combat in FFXIV in the overworld is designed assuming you are any class and alone
wintry chasm
But all the overworld is so easy you don't need anyone else
and dungeons have a matchmaking system
There just isn't really a reason to ever have a party while questing
golden crystal
its not about need its about being social in an mmo?
marble drift
Join an FC
chat is global
they might have a discord you can chill in
you can be social without being in a group
golden crystal
yrah cause sitting in a room where 20 people are doing 20 diffrent things sounds like a real hoot.
proud willow
Like it or not, questing is fully designed to be done solo. Having friends does not make it faster or easier
fleet basin
honestly, the comparison to WoW is a poor one. Most of us here have played WoW. You telling me that you can find a group for levelling in 10 minutes? Go and test that out and come back and tell him how long it takes.
proud willow
compare questing in the open world to, say, Eureka
you will absolutely find people inviting you to groups and doing content together there
because that's content that is designed for groups, which people join and leave as they need to
like an older style of MMO
robust gazelle
Questing is intended to be solo. If you don’t like that design then yes, maybe the game isn’t for you. A majority of the social aspect is doing dungeons/raids which is mostly at max level.
wintry chasm
I do feel like this has gone beyond the question though
So maybe something like #rants
golden crystal
just seems to defeat the purpose of being an mmo
golden crystal
the question was why is it hard to find people to play with
it was asked and answered
wintry chasm
It was answered
It's hard to find a party for overworld content because no 90% of overworld content doesn't need it whatsoever in any respect
golden crystal
yeah we already went over that
fleet basin
I have a question! I'm a new player, am currently a 51 BRD. But, I've just been racing forward because I want to be a machinist. When I finally get there (maybe in 10 more levels I'll have met the requirements (gross)) do I just spam dungeons to level back up from 30 to where I am?
polar hound
As a dps your best bet will be potd.
Dungeon Qs will take too long to be efficient as DPS
crimson wind
Is there any way to stop my mount music from getting quieter when I idle?
maiden palm
to all u veterans what is ur end game like
alpine shadow
Is it just mount music you are referring to?
As in if you were in idle not in mount it wont be quiet?
oak ice
to all u veterans what is ur end game like
Trying to make glam for all jobs
twilit arch
afaik there's no option to stop the mount music from lowering when you're standing idle
jagged rune
now it loaded like this, but play button is just a white screen
Okay run as admin fixed it
lilac thicket
How can I move my installation folder for this game? I have it on steam, but when I go into Properties---> Local Files, it doesn't let me move folder
oak ice
Yep, have Wildfire up for it and don't overcap
ember goblet
double weave wildfire and hypercharge?
obsidian patio
9 minutes for most base game nodes, 6 minutes for expansion nodes.
frank anchor
at what point can an arcanist become a summoner?
gaunt brook
Level 30
Do your job quests and you unlock two different job quests, one for Summoner and one for Scholar
dusk umbra
is it better to do floor 1-60 for POTD to level or just running 51-60
ember goblet
latter
zinc orbitBOT
crimson wind
NM Nidhogg, anything to know
proud willow
it'll probably be your first encounter with the stack marker
It looks like a ring of arrows pointing at one player, it means an attack directed at that player will be split among everyone standing with them
Whenever you see that marker, the whole party should stand together so that no one takes lethal damage
next wind
for someone who always played dps and ready to level a tank alt, which job would you say is best/easiest/most fun to go with? 🙂
raw solstice
in this specific case too, make sure you stay grouped with other party members for a bit too, since there's a few sequential hits
proud willow
yes
You are going to see the stack marker in a lot of boss fights from here on out; it's usually just one hit, but in this particular fight it is a multi-hit attack so stay grouped
marble drift
@next wind Easiest? Dark Knight. Best? Not a thing. Most Fun? Fun is subjective. Hell even my opinion on ease of use is
next wind
haha okay
so Dark Knight is the easiest in your opinion? some peeps said paladin
just want to get as much feedback as I don't intend to level more than 1 tank in the near future xDD
easiest is my top priority cuz I never tanked before
leaden ginkgo
Guys, if I wanted gil which item should I buy to resel with my poetics?
next wind
but cool skills and nice looks is a bonus lol
obsidian wren
tanking starts real easy in the low level dungeons and gradually becomes harder
so you don't need to worry about difficulty much
next wind
Felix - I wouldn't recommend to use poetics for item reselling, I would use it to exchange to gear and then exchange to company seals
then get ventures and level up retainers
obsidian wren
unless you start as gunbreaker and directly enter lv 60 content there's no real difficulty wall you'll run into
next wind
my retainers are only lvl 45 now and each 1h venture brings back 3-5k worth of gil items
green raft
@ember goblet yes it's the easiest to weave WF + HC, you just can't use Drill or Air Anchor as the GCD after HC. it won't count for WF due to a small delay in damage registering
You can also start HC and weave WF after the first Heat Blast, this allows you to Drill/AA after the HC since you will have two non-HB GCDs in WF. Drill/AA is never suitable as your last WF GCD though
next wind
yea, 1 venture is 200gc
it will take some time to level up the retainers but it's really worth it
each extra retainer is 2$ per month which is not a lot
I have 4 right now but I plan to do more, mostly it's best to sell mats as they're the most bought items on mb, selling gear can take days if not weeks
been playing for 3weeks+ only and have 1.5mil already 😄
ember goblet
ton of detail 
\
green raft
yeah, maybe I'm being excessive lol. you'll always get better at a job as you play it more and if you're leveling mistakes aren't so bad
ember goblet
im still leveling
but ill keep that info in my mind
im just trying to think of the best way to play looking at my current skills
ty 
next wind
uwufia MCH is my main right now actually
this helped me a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx3GcPMFU1M
bronze sorrel
!faq mchguide
zinc orbitBOT
bronze sorrel
Would recommend reading this instead
bronze sorrel
Desperius doesn't really have a good track record when it comes to accurate guides
next wind
true, but for a total beginner it's easier to see it on the video, then get into the guide itself
as the guide can be overwhelming at first (certainly was for me)
but ultimately the guide is the best 🙂
ember goblet
you're supposed to kill them
warped nest
Do they die fast cuz a DPS was hitting them?
ember goblet
yes
leaden ginkgo
i mean, is the tank supposed to agro them?
warped nest
Not always
ember goblet
depends
raw solstice
it's a case by case sort of basis
warped nest
If the add can hit like a truck, then the tank need to aggro it
raw solstice
some adds are squishy and just kinda fall over and die after a few hits, without doing much damage if any at all to other people
ember goblet
sometimes they're like tanky enough and hit hard enough that an OT should grab them
raw solstice
others will hit hard and/or live longer
when in doubt it's better for a tank to pick them up, but over time you just kinda get to learn what has to be picked up and what doesn't
leaden ginkgo
i see
blissful rune
will I lost my materials if I failed on crafting ?
agile laurel
RDM hours - never saw the point of scatter/impact, since mana levels are rarely dead equal. What's the situation over just using VT/A II?
!faq rdmguide
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raw solstice
@blissful rune generally yes, sometimes no. It's just a bit rng
oak ice
It will say you put the materials in your inventory if you get to keep them
raw solstice
@agile laurel scatter/impact is more potency than veraero 2/verthunder 2. Eventually you get a trait which boosts the 2's to be the same potency as scatter, but at that point you have impact which is stronger, anyways. As far as mana levels are concerned, you generally just kinda go back and forth between veraero 2/verthunder 2 as needed to keep them around the same so you can get to enchanted moulinets sooner
the little bit extra potency ends up making scatter/impact a worthwhile to use as a dualcast target for AoE. Increasingly so with the more mobs there are to hit
agile laurel
right, so in theory just keep with II switching for now
raw solstice
veraero 2 -> scatter, verthunder 2 -> scatter
whichever mana level is lower determines which first cast you use
unreal aspen
i just finished shadowbringers - i've been running around unlocking all the endgame content, but how do i know what I can just do through the duty finder and what I should be using party finder for (and gearing up a lot for)
oh wait just realized there's a high end trial section nvm
stable hinge
whats that extra darker part of the line on my exp bar?
unreal aspen
do you mean the rested exp?
marble drift
I thought that too but rested in a light blue
stable hinge
i dont know what that is
raw solstice
it's only blue when it accumulates enough to go to the next level
marble drift
can we have a screenshot?
stable hinge
my exp bar is light yellow
raw solstice
!faq restedexp
zinc orbitBOT
raw solstice
if you don't have enough that it visually goes to the next level, it's just a darker shade of yellow, instead of blue
stable hinge
Ty
severe token
How do I get a new class
marble drift
complete your level 10 class quest for the one you started one
and you can take up anything thats offered in the city you started with. To get more you'll need to complete your level 15 MSQ to get to the other cities
and some classes require you have another of X level or reach a certain place in the MSQ
next wind
are squadron dungeon missions available from lvl 20 only right?
strange coral
Yes, it comes from Ishgard Restoration
marble drift
you can also buy it from the marketboard
the item to learn it is tradable
it MAY not be cheap
unreal aspen
how do i go about starting extreme trials?
i was informed by a friend that i'm supposed to go to party finder to find a group not the duty finder
and obv i'm going to read up on the mechanics/watch a guide and everything so i know what to do but how do i find a group that's fine with playing with someone who's new to them
dusky nest
it depends on the kind of extreme trail you want to do. if its previous content then 90% of the people you will find want to run it unsync to have an easy clear/farm.
if its endgame you can keep your eyes open for practice/learning partys or create your own
mossy current
^ and yes, party finder is the best option to get a group with
unreal aspen
ok thank you!
Is there any value in running unsynced trials for getting used to the higher difficulty? or would I be better off just jumping into current content
mossy current
Past content still has mounts/crafting materials if you're interested in that
But in terms of getting into it, I'd recommend getting used to current content
marble drift
You're at a good point. The most recent trial available in extreme is generally pretty forgiving and plenty of people are doing it for rewards and the gear is not bad if you're just starting endgame content
echo obsidian
hey peeps, so I've bought standard edition of the game in steam, and level cap is 50.
Which DLC should I buy to get the whole game?
nimble rain
Shadowbringer
echo obsidian
FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers Standard Edition ?
leaden ginkgo
Which DLC should I buy to get the whole game?
Buying the latest expansion gets you all the previous expansions
so buying shadowbringers gets you both stormblood and heavensward for free
echo obsidian
oh, thanks guys, i'm gonna buy it!
nimble rain
when and where do I unlock content that give Wolf Mark? I just completed 2.0 MSQ
feral flame
i need little help with this one in training below these are my current stats idk what to do to reach mission stats its kinda confusing
nimble rain
I need wolf mark for a piece of armor for glam
mossy current
Grand Company, "A Pup No Longer" unlocks PvP and access to the Wolf Mark currency
As well as access to the wolve's den
nimble rain
is there anyone playing pvp? I hope it is not inactive
cause I really want that piece of armor
mossy current
The most active atm is probably Onsal Hakair, which is the only one available in Frontline Roulette
Which I recommend doing
marble drift
just go in on something ranged and be bad for a while. Its what I did 🤷🏻
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leaden ginkgo
can you change private chamber windows?
empty parrot
You can cover it up with walls but can't change it iirc
manic sentinel
there are no higher lvl levequests after kugane?
marble drift
Yes, in the Crystarium
lone furnace
when does allowance reset on pheonix?
marble drift
!reset
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
marble drift
Daily allowance is global in its reset times
leaden ginkgo
does no one commendate anymore? lol
slate arrow
Usually only tanks and healers get comms
static pasture
yep very true
first.. 40 ish lvls i was summoner i got.. maybe 10 commendations
used scholar for duties and stuff, up to 130 at lvl 71
blissful matrix
being polite usually yields me coms
leaden ginkgo
its like people are constantly in a hurry and just leave the dungeons so quit lol
blissful matrix
like Hello, Thanks for Group etc
static pasture
i only usually say "hi" and "gg" or if i have to afk quickly because my kids kicking off il explain that
but i always commendate
lilac thicket
a lot of people don't care about giving or recieving commendations
robust crow
are there any low-attention ways to farm poetics?
i need 4500 of them for the anima relic
wintry chasm
roulettes really
little swift
Msq roulette is semi low attention
scenic orbit
Heyo
open coral
Just spam run Castrum or Praetorium (long, worth 200 each) or any of the 24 man raids (slightly less long, worth 100 each).
marble drift
generally 300 cause new player bonus.
open coral
You can't count on the new player bonus
marble drift
right. hence generally
marble drift
eh I got it pretty consistently
open coral
But it can't be counted on to be consistent, and therefore isn't worth mentioning for farming purposes.
mossy current
ARF gives quite a few poetics
scenic orbit
Azalea are you a controller user?
mossy current
Yeah
mossy current
80
scenic orbit
Would you mind sharing your hotbars with me? Like just a screenshot of your setup
I'd really like something to base mine off of cuz I am soo not organized lmao
mossy current
I don't think I can be on rn, so you might have better luck asking Wynne or #protips-and-ui
scenic orbit
Hmm =w=
open coral
I'm also a level 80 WHM controller user.
But my setup is incredibly ideosyncratic.
It works for me, but I don't know if it would work for anyone else.
scenic orbit
Well you're in luck because I have no idea what ideosyncratic even means!
I mean I'd take yours
open coral
lol
scenic orbit
The idea for now is to get several screenshots of setups
Then deciding which I like best
mossy current
What level are you?
royal loom
So I just beat my first primal, which grand company should I join? What different advantages do they have?
mossy current
You said conjurer, and now I'm concerned
scenic orbit
Heh I thought you'd never ask. The mage of tomorrow, Amazik Runelite, is a whoppin glevel 27
open coral
There's no difference regarding GCs
royal loom
Oh
open coral
Except for where they're located and the color of their livery
mossy current
So I just beat my first primal, which grand company should I join? What different advantages do they have?
@royal loom primarily glamor and location of base
open coral
Okay, only level 27 and still CNJ is fine
If you were level 30+ and still CNJ, we would be very worried
scenic orbit
Why?
open coral
Because at level 30, you should be doing the quest to become a White Mage.
scenic orbit
Ohh right, yeah becoming a white mage is the plan
open coral
And once you've become that, you should never go back to CNJ because you'll lose like 80% of your abilities.
robust crow
conjurer only exists as a bridge to white mage from 1-30
you can effectively consider conjurer to be white mage
scenic orbit
Mhm mhm
mossy current
Remember that once you get level 30, a CNJ quest unlocks that you can get a unicorn ^^
open coral
^
scenic orbit
Oh that's dope
open coral
CNJ 30 is the only job that gets its own mount.
mossy current
Tank mounts though
scenic orbit
Is it a quest from the conjurer's guild
scenic orbit
Ok
mossy current
A 
near the guild
open coral
At level 30 CNJ (not WHM), the npc right next to the bridge will give you the quest
mossy current
After beating the level 30 quest
open coral
The bridge inside the guild
scenic orbit
But yeah @mossy current and @open coral I'd appreciate it if you could dm me screenshots of your setups. L2+R2 stuff too
open coral
Sure. I can get you screenshots when I'm on lunch break in about an hour if that's okay.
scenic orbit
I know I don't have the skills unlocked yet but I'll save the screenshots
mossy current
I'll leave this to Aura since I'm doing work stuffs atm
mossy current
I won't be available online for another 5 hours lol
open coral
Advantages of work from home for me 😄
scenic orbit
That's ok :]
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marble drift
I'd help but...I cannot wrap my head around controller inputs for this game. I've always been all thumbs with consoles
open coral
Really? I've found the controller cross bars to be very intuitive... if you set them up right.
eager delta
is spamming dungs at low lvls fastest while doing fates in downtime?
im lvl 15
and done main story line already
open coral
More less.
marble drift
done?
open coral
If you're a tank or healer you shouldn't have much downtime
marble drift
like this is an alt job?
open coral
And if you're dps, PotD is nominally quicker, from what I understand.
open coral
You won't have a lot of downtime between queues then
Not enough time to finish a FATE
eager delta
ok so just spamming highest lvl dung i have unlocked
open coral
Highest level leveing dungeon, yes
Once you get to 50/60/70 don't do the 50/60/70 dungeons.
Stick with the highest non-50/60/70 until you're over to the next tier.
scenic orbit
So are there any lvl 30+ conjurer exclusive abilities/skills?
scenic orbit
Ah ok
open coral
But any skill you can use as CNJ, you will also be able to use as WHM
vagrant copper
I've been told there's a mount you can get as CNJ but not as WHM but that should be it 🤷♂️
open coral
We've discussed that already
It exists
It's a unicorn
And you can use it as any job once you own it
leaden ginkgo
What does astral fire do exactly
scenic orbit
I bought the nimbus cloud last night
leaden ginkgo
Like what are the exact details
faint flare
Fire damage up by 40/60/80%
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leaden ginkgo
Is like 430 potency with astral fire 3?
faint flare
Just about
leaden ginkgo
432
faint flare
But the cast time and mana cost makes it worse than fire 1
leaden ginkgo
Yeah but you use it when you get fire starter
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leaden ginkgo
No
faint flare
leaden ginkgo
!action fire 1
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faint flare
Should be just fire
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faint flare
And fire 4 is like 280 potency base
faint flare
Black mage is the big boom job
leaden ginkgo
That’s literally the only reason Im leveling it
I just wanna class I can see high numbers on
faint flare
Hit those 100k xenoglossy 
scenic orbit
Black mage ay
bright canopy
Hello recently getting back into this game; I’m finding myself way overleveled for my current MSQ which is 35 and I’m level 53. So my question is since I still have a long way to go til I hit HW is it worth investing in ironworks or just buy gear off the MB?
leaden ginkgo
Ironworks
faint flare
If you got the poetics sure
leaden ginkgo
Iron works will get you till the level 55 dungeon so even if you’re overleveled it doesn’t matter much
bright canopy
Alright appreciate it thank you
scenic orbit
Is there man easier way to access minions and mounts for controller users?
open coral
Add them to your crossbars?
faint flare
You can add shortcuts to the minion/mount guides to hotbars
Should be in one of the action and trait tabs
scenic orbit
I did add my mount to the crossbar but like, I noticed they have their own actions/skills too
faint flare
Minion skills sre only for lords of verminion
open coral
There should actually be an entire crossbar with all of the menu shortcuts already there.
faint flare
Mounts with skills are visual only and are in the Pet/mount hotbar that the game usually auto swaps you to when you have a skill to like drop an item or something
open coral
Should be crossbar 8
faint flare
Its like pet crosshot bar cause i use 8 for stuff
open coral
Yeah. I just know I never touch it because it's quicker and easier for me to just zip through the menus manually.
static pasture
whats the difference between a trust and duty finder?
static pasture
is it easier in duty finder>?
marble drift
Its....generally faster?
blissful matrix
do buffs effect LB?
static pasture
ty for the help1
jaunty matrix
trying to understand which items i can reclaim from calamity salvager so i can throw them away safely
leaden ginkgo
Trust is 71+ though so
Leveling alts won’t be that easy
So
What's the level 80 Crafter Gearing?
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faint flare
@blissful matrix no. Only environmental debuffs like ravana blood stance affects lb
agile laurel
Am I understanding RDM aoe correctly? Hardcast VT/A II, impact, repeat adding CS/fleche where necessary til 100-100 then run in and spam ench. moulinet with whatever CD you have available?
static yacht
@leaden ginkgo check the balance for BiS crafter sets
There will be different BiS depending on your goals
As to HOW to get the gear you either craft it yourself or buy it
leaden ginkgo
Right, right. .o .
Side question now
ABout Materia
For Combat Jobs, you only use 7 and 8 rank Materia, no?
static yacht
Generally yes
surreal lichen
Is clear vision the same as sharp vision 2 but just cheaper? dont see a difference 😅
Also Im trying to mine shards as I'm too poor, but is there anything I can do to help the gathering other than using the +2 shard ability? (level23 miner)
static yacht
If you are poor / have no materia / its the start of the expandion you can probably jut use the ones from the previous expac
Just make sure you change it out when you do have it
leaden ginkgo
Would Crafter/Gather materia work about the same?
faint flare
@surreal lichen one lasts for the whole node, the other is for only the next attempt
leaden ginkgo
Or, is it a bit different, because of like, their more specific stat needs?
surreal lichen
Ah! I see thanks. Does that mean clear vision is pretty useless then?
faint flare
Depends on your GP and what you need
static yacht
Its a bit different
A lot of BiS for crafters combine all the materia ranks
Because with crafting you only need enough to prevent another action
IE: current general BiS for crafters has a bunch of rank 1,4, 5, 7 and 8 materia
forest glen
Hello, can i get some help for soloing HoH? Managed to get to floor 100 twice with a premade, on my RDM, and now i'd like to try it out solo.
The thing is, i dont know how i can even survive in high floors, as everything 80+ either one-shots, or two-shots me.
Ive read guides for both solo and party, but none adress the "regular, random mobs will two shot you with autoattacks" issue
static yacht
Are you max aether level? You need to do a lot of kiting and blow your burst asap to kill it as soon as possible. This means waiting for CDs
forest glen
Ofc im max aether, couldnt get to 100 otherwise without tanking the floor xD
Damagewise, i know pretty much most of the mechanics if not all
My problem is a random mob walking up to me, and slapping my face for 60% max hp with an auto
static yacht
You pretty much have to avoid aggroing
The ones with double slaps
Pan your camera 360 quickly to always be looking around
forest glen
I see. So concealment/sneak past all i can, and only pick up the ones that wont rek me in one slapslap combo, hoping they'll be enough to open the door?
static yacht
Yeah
forest glen
I see. How about tank gameplay? I guess they can circumvent that instakill issue, in exchange for being super slow and hard to clear floors with?
static yacht
Never tried with tank
scenic orbit
Can anyone explain how I can cut my "hold L2+R2" crossbar in half?
I'd like to split that in two so i can see one half on left side of screen and right side on right side of screen
faint flare
You dont afaik
static yacht
@forest glen make sure you are healing though
Forgot to mention lol
You want to burst while also healing yourself
forest glen
Yeah, pots galore. Im ok with potting up every single pull. What i'm not ok with is being unable to pot because mob kills me before the first tick (or the first vercure) pops
scenic orbit
What's this all about?
faint flare
How long the wxhb stays active if you continue to hold the trigger for it
scenic orbit
What are these? I assumed it was the xhb
Took that from a video
Looks like a split xhb to me
vagrant copper
They might have just arranged some other hotbars to be like that 🤷♂️
slate arrow
That's the WXHB
you need to enable it in the hotbars section under character settings
vagrant copper
He has unassigned slots set to not visible
devout salmon
I think the best solo job for pretty much everything is paladin.
Oof, my chat was scrolled up. My bad.
scenic orbit
@vagrant copper Do you know how/where I could make certain aspects of the WXHB invisible too?
vagrant copper
Character config > Hotbar setting > General> "Hide unassigned slots something something" at the top
slate arrow
Set unused hotbar slots to invisible
scenic orbit
Did it but it never worked
If I turn up the standar bar it works however it erases everything lol
vagrant copper
Show the top of that setting window
scenic orbit
vagrant copper
Go to the display tab
scenic orbit
Thank you mister
vagrant copper
In custscene hell right now so can't find it myself xD
scenic orbit
Oh wait I was too early to say ty lmao
devout salmon
This game has a LOT of settings.
scenic orbit
Apparently it's already enabled and still nothing
devout salmon
I'll help you out Amazik. One sec. Logging in.
scenic orbit
devout salmon
Nvm you found it.
scenic orbit
Yeah I know it does. I'm trying to get everything set up before I get too deep into the game
vagrant copper
You're not in the cross hotbar edit mode, are you?
scenic orbit
I don't even know what that is
vagrant copper
Select / option / back
scenic orbit
?
scenic orbit
I'm new to xbox
vagrant copper
It's the one in the middle on the left
scenic orbit
Is select on the left or right
devout salmon
FFXIV is on xbox? Didn't know that.
open coral
You can use an Xbox controller.
devout salmon
Ah I see.
scenic orbit
That didn't do anything aside from exit the options for me corska
devout salmon
Your stuff should be hidden then, with those settings.
You're hitting Apply right?
scenic orbit
Yet it's not
That's the thing. I already had it applied
The settings were already in place
devout salmon
Try unselecting it, apply, reselect, apply.
forest lark
So, I finished long ago quest at Grenoldtbatvtempest, the one that opens up a shop for LVL 80 items, now the problem is I already completed it with scholar and claimed the items at Grenoldt, now I'm playing whm is there any way I can get for whm this time
devout salmon
Yes, you just go back to him I'm pretty sure.
You need some items you buy with tomes.
The second time around I believe.
scenic orbit
So to activate the left side. I press L2 twice but the second time I press I hold down
Same with the right side
devout salmon
They are hidden now?
scenic orbit
Nope
Just telling you how I activate them to perhaps give you better insight on what I'm trying to change
faint flare
Its not show unassigned hotbars
Its a setting under the cross hotbar stuff that allows the directional buttons to be used to the wxhb
When turned off, it only shows the 4 face buttons
scenic orbit
I didn't understand that sentence fullyu
faint flare
You can toggle whether or not the directional buttons are used with the wxhb
When turned off, it only shows 4 slots
For the 4 face buttons
scenic orbit
Ohh
faint flare
When turned on, it shows 8 for the face buttons and directional buttons
faint flare
Its like "allow directional buttons with wxhb
scenic orbit
It was this
faint flare
That
scenic orbit
I also found out how to split it
devout salmon
Is it common for people to play pc but use a controller?
faint flare
Yes
devout salmon
I've only ever played with m/k.
leaden ginkgo
eh?
vagrant copper
/shout Achivement FATE sighted!! <pos> blah blah
marble drift
the <pos> command in chat gives you a clickable position
faint flare
The <pos> tag puts your current location in the chat
wintry chasm
You can also manually just select a position from the map too
scenic orbit
How do you think that macro would activate?
faint flare
Its literally how Corska typed it
scenic orbit
I guess you'd have to manually type it out
faint flare
/shout Achivement FATE sighted!! <pos> blah blah
vagrant copper
Or you just... put it on a macro and activate the macro
devout salmon
^
scenic orbit
Yeah I feel like that would make more sense
So regarding me hiding some of the wxhb
Why do people do that? Aren't there so many skills that you can always find a way to fill the space?
devout salmon
Well some people put emotes or macros there.
zinc orbitBOT
whole wasp
mounts, gearsets, minions etc
devout salmon
Also depending on what level you are, you still have a lot of skills to learn. You may need them eventually.
open coral
I mean, you saw what my hotbars look like. I have duplicate spells, mounts, etc. and still had a lot of empty space.
And that was only three sets.
vagrant copper
Some people also like pretty things more than functionality
faint flare
You dont need every slot, you can fit everything with redundancies on the 3 hotbars accessible without swapping
scenic orbit
What does redundancies mean lmao
faint flare
Duplicates
open coral
The same thing multiple times
faint flare
Basically
scenic orbit
Why have multiple?
open coral
The most important thing with setting up your hotbars is that you know where your spells are.
faint flare
Avoid fat fingerings
scenic orbit
Do you mean like stone 1 and stone 2
devout salmon
Not or no longer needed or useful.
faint flare
Or putting a skill in both a Aoe side of the bar and single target nar
open coral
No. More like how I have Raise on my bars twice @scenic orbit
scenic orbit
Can you screenshot an example?
devout salmon
Aura is correct. Everyone is different and everyone should set their skills up how they see fit personally.
faint flare
I have my bars set up so my L2 triggers are all single target stuff and R2 all aoe stuff, so i have some off globals on both sides
Since you use them in both aoe and single target
leaden ginkgo
pc or ps4? cause i use shift and control, and bound my side buttons on the mouse to those lol
faint flare
Ps4
open coral
We're talking controller.
scenic orbit
Xbone
faint flare
Basically controller
devout salmon
It's loading.
faint flare
Macros
scenic orbit
I honestly like ps4 controller more but I wanted to get used to xbox because it's compatible with more pc games
forest lark
It's like theynhind sentence to ankey or something and hen just press it to send
devout salmon
/em I believe.
faint flare
Yes
forest lark
Bind
faint flare
Thats a macro
open coral
You can use the appropriate emote /
faint flare
/p goodbye
/Bow
open coral
Just like /bow or /salute or whatever.
faint flare
And thats it
open coral
Yep. I have greet/farewell macros that do something like that for when I'm playing on non-English servers.
devout salmon
You can also do:
/em walks away slowly.
It will always include your characters name before the message typed after /em
open coral
/p 
Nice to meet you 
/easternbow
junior yacht
i'm not sure how to macro it, but if you're doing it on the fly, just start typing the phrase you want, then hit Tab
junior yacht
well there you go
open coral
Or R1 if you're on controller
junior yacht
a little menu will pop up with phrases matching what you've typed
vagrant copper
You can also just hit tab to get the whole, giant menu
open coral
Then search through the whooooolllee thing for what you're looking for!
agile laurel
I am correct in thinking that when a recruited friend buys the game, it's THEN i get 5 chocobo feathers?
forest laurel
is it worth buying i480 right side stuff? I don't feel like suffering thru e5-8n weekly just to get it
junior yacht
after they buy and activate the game, put in the code, etc yes
faint flare
If you want to skip grinding then sure
junior yacht
what do you need the gear for?
forest laurel
healer, tank, dancer, caster
so it could set me back a bit if I were to buy rightside gear for all four
agile laurel
Alright, so I assume it's just a bit of a delay then?
cause my recruited friend has bought the game and put in the code but nothing yet
vagrant copper
It can take a while yes
hot eagle
I am correct in thinking that when a recruited friend buys the game, it's THEN i get 5 chocobo feathers?
@agile laurel iirc its when your friend pays the first time for sub
agile laurel
not sure that's correct, I think it's once when game is purchased and then for sub times
raven sage
Well you can recruit someone who hasn't bought the game
vagrant copper
It took about a week for me to get my new game rewards
raven sage
I would say just give it a bit
agile laurel
alright.
scenic orbit
How do people with controller activate these?
Would you for example put controller down and press something on keyboard or click with mouse?
Or is there also a way to use those with only the controller
raven sage
There's a virtual mouse for controller
scenic orbit
I hear it isn't good enough for things like that though
raven sage
Correct
scenic orbit
Not accurate or something
raven sage
So yes people who use those would have a real mouse or a keyboard on hand
white bronze
After completing the dailies what's a good way to level.. Im a 63 dark knight
scenic orbit
Just wanna make sure I'm not missing out on an easier function
raven sage
Nope you're good
faint flare
@white bronze spam highest level dungeon
whole wasp
As tank, Dungeons are usually better. The only anomaly is 5.0 launch for example. Everybody wants to play GNB and tank queues took longer than just HoH spam.
arctic oriole
is there a cash shop also?
whole wasp
There is a shop for micro transactions if thats what you're asking. Thats the mogstation but it only has cosmetics and some character services.
arctic oriole
where can i find it ingame?
whole wasp
Name change, server change, ingame wedding, race change. Etc.
Its not ingame.
Its on the website.
arctic oriole
oh website
open coral
@white bronze There are a number of different relic weapons. Which level ones were you interested in specifically? 50, 60, 70, or 80?
vagrant copper
@white bronze Relic weapons are powerful / shiny weapons that you can get. Associated with reaaaaaaly long grinds (typically, at least)
white bronze
Oo I have options 😳
open coral
The ones for 50/60/70 are effectively just really nice cosmetics with super long grinds at this point.
white bronze
Hmm I like cosmetics
whole wasp
one autumn leaf, the link shows the stuff.
open coral
I see what you did there, Smug
white bronze
My ninja is 80 he needs swag so I might pursue these relic items
open coral
For the level 80 ones, you can pick up the quest "God Save the Queen" in Kugane IF you have completed the level 70 Alliance raid series - Return to Ivalice.
white bronze
I have not
open coral
Completion of the Return to Ivalice raid quest series is a prerequisite.
white bronze
Damn
whole wasp
Lvl 80 ninja relics is two katanas. Its pretty cool.
white bronze
Well looks like its impossible
open coral
I really like the level 80 NIN relic. I'm leveling NIN right now so I can get it.
I'm going to hate myself when the next phase comes out and I have to level 4 different relics though.
white bronze
Wym?
whole wasp
I already levelled all the skysteel tools. Grind shall find no fear in me.