questions-and-help

[warped nest]

keep your weaponskill/spell rolling, don't hold a weaponskill for a few second so you can walk around to hit the positional

use ability whenever they are ready (unless you will be wasting it cuz the boss flies away or whatev)

[obsidian patio]

Yeah, as long as you're not waiting between button presses, using your damage cooldowns, and not breaking your combos you're probably doing better than 30-40% of people already.

[narrow arch]

Okay. Some guides have these graphs where one skill has buff of 577.50 compared to 631.95 or whatever and I don’t want someone to call me a dumbass because I popped my GCD at the wrong time and only got 9 GCD’s instead of 10

[warped nest]

you meant oGCD, but that's fine

all these come from practice

[obsidian patio]

Most people won't notice that most of the time unless you're doing parties meant to get the highest damage possible

[narrow arch]

Oh yeah of course sorry

[obsidian patio]

If you want to name a class or two I can try to give general pointers/advice for them

[warped nest]

play decently: can do normal raids and alliance raids
play a bit better than that: can do EX trials
play very well: savage raids
play to the max: ultimate

same here

more than happy to help and breakdown guides

I play dragoon and am seeing these guides with complex math
the math is just there to argue why the writer design/align their rotation a specific way: more comfy, lines up with other players, etc etc

you don't need to understand the math

[narrow arch]

Good because I have a major in theme park management not physics lol

[hearty linden]

Which Job is most mobile ingame, preferrably with out of combat movement/leaps/charge mobs but if not then in combat ? I am specially missing charge, like warriors have in WoW etc

[hardy stirrup]

We have Dragoons who do lots of jumps

And it's gameplay requires moving around enemies

We have Red Mage which uses all kinds of magic and a rapier, also jumps in and out of battle

Actually all of the melee DPS are very mobile

[little swift]

every melee has a gap closer of some kind

[hardy stirrup]

They tend to always have an in-and-out option

[obsidian patio]

Not much for out-of-combat mobility. Ninja has a passive movement speed increase along with a "dash"

!action Shukuchi

[zinc orbit]

**Shukuchi** : lvl 40 NIN (60.0 second cooldown)

Move quickly to the specified location. Maximum Charges: 2 Cannot be executed while bound.

Powered by XIVAPI

[hearty linden]

Oh, sounds nice! Only been playing Warrior to get through the ARR MSQ atm so have not tried them all

[obsidian patio]

There's also the Ranged Physical DPS which have an action that boosts movement speed out of combat

!action peloton

[zinc orbit]

**Peloton** : lvl 20 ARC BRD MCH DNC (5.0 second cooldown)

Increases movement speed of self and nearby party members.
Duration: 30s
Effect ends when enmity is generated. Has no effect in battle.

Powered by XIVAPI

[marble drift]

Thats a role action so any of the 3 ranged physical class will have it

[hearty linden]

Ah, cool!

[marble drift]

Dancer's also have a short-range sorta....dash thing.

[obsidian patio]

!action En Avant

[zinc orbit]

**En Avant** : lvl 50 DNC (30.0 second cooldown)

Quickly dash 10 yalms forward. Maximum Charges: Cannot be executed while bound.

Powered by XIVAPI

[leaden ginkgo]

what is optional items

[obsidian patio]

... 3 charges, not sure why it doesn't list it.

[marble drift]

exactly what it says on the tin. Optional items

[hearty linden]

Thanks alot guys

[leaden ginkgo]

im a new player

[marble drift]

If you're refering to the stuff you see on the Square Enix site

its all fashion and other things that don't do anything for you gameplay wise

[leaden ginkgo]

does optional items include a lot of mounts and stuff

[marble drift]

Yep.

[leaden ginkgo]

that sucks

[obsidian patio]

yes, but you need to do the story to unlock the ability to use mounts.

[marble drift]

There are more mounts outside of the store than inside

[obsidian patio]

Ehh, mogstation mounts aren't that special

[marble drift]

plenty to earn the old fashion way. by playing

[obsidian patio]

Lots of good ones in the game

[warped nest]

most mounts come from gameplay

mogstation has maybe.... i want to say 15-20 mounts

[marble drift]

cept maybe that stupid fucking bike 😠

[hardy stirrup]

Mogstation mounts are overpriced imo

[marble drift]

I hate how its got that passive thing

[warped nest]

the game itself has at least 50-60

[leaden ginkgo]

I really want the black chocobo

[hardy stirrup]

Like very overpriced

Black chocobo is free in Heavensward

Also

[marble drift]

You can also colour your own chocobo by feeding it stuff.

[leaden ginkgo]

It is? I thought that was amazon only and couldnt be obtained anymore

[hardy stirrup]

You can color your default Chocobo black

[leaden ginkgo]

I mean i want the fat black Chocobo

[marble drift]

ah yes that was a promo from a while back

[leaden ginkgo]

is there some website that keeps track of server registration opening times, cuz I want to register to a server that's currently full

But a regular black chocobo is still lit

[marble drift]

Which particular server Eye?

[obsidian patio]

!faq serverlock

[zinc orbit]

Why can't I enter this server?

Info

Standard, Preferred, and New Servers will dynamically open and close themselves from newly created characters depending on how many players are online. To ensure you're able to make a new character on your server try waiting or doing so at a less active time of day.
Congested Servers will not unlock for new players or transfers until Square Enix removes the Congested Status.

[leaden ginkgo]

Tonberry

[vagrant copper]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/

[marble drift]

Hey! thats my server

[leaden ginkgo]

I hated when wow started added buyable mounts and theyre like 25 bucks

[marble drift]

Right well the way to get onto Tonberry is to get in early in the morning or super late at night

[obsidian patio]

You'll just have to wait for enough people to log off of Tonberry to get a character on there.

[leaden ginkgo]

but there is no login queue?

[narrow arch]

What is “easier” would you say? A bard or black mage as a second class? I want a wizard role since that’s my job in real life but I love bows in games

[obsidian patio]

There is, that's separate from the dynamic character creation lock

[leaden ginkgo]

how long is the login queue on Tonberry

[obsidian patio]

🤷‍♂️

[marble drift]

Never overly long.

On patch days its as long as other servers.

On every other day. A minute tops

[obsidian patio]

I play one of the busier servers and outside of day 1/2 patches I rarely see it over 20-30.

[leaden ginkgo]

WoW Classic has like 6 hour login queues on some servers

[obsidian patio]

besides when server-wide connection issues happen, obviously.

[marble drift]

yeesh. Yeah unless its literally a new expac launch

[obsidian patio]

yeah it's like a minute or two at most for general time of day.

[marble drift]

you'll be in game in under 5 minutes regardless of day

[leaden ginkgo]

what about Kujata

u have a char there?

[marble drift]

Same deal. Little less populated

I have an alt.

[leaden ginkgo]

like is it important to speak JP well to play there?

[marble drift]

If you're an aussie like me, both Tonberry or Kujata are good picks

Nope.

I don't speak a fuckin ounce of Japanese

and Im doin' fine

[leaden ginkgo]

I'm in Japan

[marble drift]

Hey if you DO speak it. Cool.

If you don't? Also cool!

[leaden ginkgo]

random question

are there any rumors for the next FF MMO

or are they gonna run this game for much longer

like WoW

[marble drift]

Not to my knowledge. XIV seems to have this cornered

Shadowbringers was generally given popular reveiws all round

critics and playerbase.

[leaden ginkgo]

cuz I have the latest GPU and I would like to see good graphics

[marble drift]

Its a good expac. They're on thier way up

[lament wagon]

mmos aren't gonna have top notch graphics

[marble drift]

^

[lament wagon]

they have to make them so the majority of people can play

[obsidian patio]

No current plans for another MMO. Would be a bit dumb to release another MMO while their most current one is currently having one of their best-received expansions

[marble drift]

aka: Shadowbringers is fuggin' sweet

[leaden ginkgo]

did FFXIV update their graphics or going to

WoW keeps updating their graphics

and redoing old zones

[marble drift]

We're not devs so we don't know. Game looks fine tho

[leaden ginkgo]

Classic wow still lookz good and i prefer classic over retail lol

Ffxiv looks better than even retail wow though imo

[narrow arch]

They did up the system requirements and dropped the PS3 support when Stormblood came out

[leaden ginkgo]

Graphics dont matter much

[marble drift]

yeah they killed 32 bit support iirc

[whole wasp]

unlike WoW which tends to remake their map (looking at you Cata), FF doesnt go back to remake their maps

[leaden ginkgo]

What matters in mmos is the feeling of the world, feeling of progression and the sense of community

[whole wasp]

so it is literally a 10 year old map >.<

for the earlier zones

[leaden ginkgo]

by remake I mean updating resolution like having HD patch

Lol must be some retail scrub

[marble drift]

yeah you'd be hard pressed to find a copypasta zone in FFXIV

[narrow arch]

The game has support for 4K if that’s what you’re asking

[leaden ginkgo]

Imagine willfully playing retail rn

[narrow arch]

I play on a PS4 Pro with a 4K TV and it looks great for an MMO

[leaden ginkgo]

@marble drift how much ping do u have

Id say ffxiv looks just as good as current WoW though their art styles are so vastly different it really would be up to preference on which is better looking

[marble drift]

In Australia? 140ish

I currently am in a raid group with someone in Japan like yourself however

and he gets like...

[obsidian patio]

The game is playable for a majority of classes at up to 200 ping

[marble drift]

9ms

max.

[leaden ginkgo]

I wonder if a friend from Brazil can play with me on JP server

[marble drift]

Yes. He will lag

[obsidian patio]

Brazil to JP? that sounds pretty brutal on the ping

[marble drift]

but its possibly.

[leaden ginkgo]

But current WoW is a horrible decrypted shell of it's best self

I play classic and am enjoying it but still mostly just raid log

WoW's artstyle makes it look better even tho it's old

Yeah vanilla will always looks good to me

[marble drift]

Better is subjective

[leaden ginkgo]

I prefer it in a lot of ways actually

[marble drift]

I always thought WoW looked like an old PS1-PS2 era game

with "not quite" circles and rounded things

[leaden ginkgo]

I love that look

[marble drift]

Like I said. Subjective

[narrow arch]

It’s comes down to taste in art styles

[narrow arch]

You think WoW looks good due to the art, not technically the graphics themselves

[leaden ginkgo]

My plan is to keep raiding in classic wow while leveling my ffxiv character

[marble drift]

that looks like one of them korean mmos

blade and soul

aeon

[leaden ginkgo]

the resolution on new maps is definitely high

[marble drift]

whatever. they mesh together in my head

[leaden ginkgo]

same with clothes

u can tell when it's low

[narrow arch]

Yeah. Technically that isn’t anything amazing. It’s the art style you enjoy

[leaden ginkgo]

Thats probably a shadowlands preview screenshot

[narrow arch]

And FFXIV can do 4K resolution so?

[leaden ginkgo]

Thats probably a shadowlands preview screenshot
@leaden ginkgo it is

Gonna try shadowlands with low expectations

Yeah and FFXIV looks just as good as that screenshot

One of the reasons i love ffxiv is how vast some areas look

[marble drift]

You know that feeling in WoW. the first time you get to Nagrand and as long as your pc wasn't bad. It was like "Whoooaaaa!"

[leaden ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/PTLc_c4u9tw gameplay of that zone

[marble drift]

FFXIV has that in like every zone

[leaden ginkgo]

ww

[marble drift]

Cept maybe Thanalan cause its kinda bland but eh

[leaden ginkgo]

Thats honestly true lol

[marble drift]

Even Thanalan has some very pretty scenery

[leaden ginkgo]

Like when i walked into Mists earlier and saw all the buildings and then hopped down to the beach i was delighted

[marble drift]

I mean if you make it to the Burning Wall and don't immediately get floored by how good it looks. I dunno what to tell ya

[leaden ginkgo]

And love how when you leave the city and turn around you can see all of it

[marble drift]

Yeah! Uldah is guilty of this alot

you never really know how fucking HUGE it is until you see the walls just go on for miles

[hardy stirrup]

FF14 excells in it's atmosphere ngl

[leaden ginkgo]

is there any class that's just cheese?

[hardy stirrup]

No

There is an easier class to play for each role tho

[leaden ginkgo]

like rogue is best pvp class in classic wow

[obsidian patio]

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

Meta Jobs FAQ

Info

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

Click here for the best jobs in the game though

[hardy stirrup]

^

[obsidian patio]

Damage difference between top and bottom DPS (in pve) is around 10% or so.

[leaden ginkgo]

Gonna play some more

[obsidian patio]

As for PVP meta, I don't personally keep track of it and might be better to ask in the pvp-focused discord.

https://discord.gg/z8Fj95q

[hardy stirrup]

Some classes are easier to play than others though

[leaden ginkgo]

is there a class that almost always does most dmg

in end game

[hardy stirrup]

Uuh

Well

[marble drift]

varies from patch to patch. Theres never ALWAYS a winner

[obsidian patio]

in terms of personal damage, there's Samurai/Black Mage/Summoner/Monk that are usually near the top.

[hardy stirrup]

SAM and BLM has always been neck-to-neck

[marble drift]

But.

[obsidian patio]

But most classes have skills to boost the groups damage which makes their contribution just as good

[marble drift]

if you're not good with those classes

[hardy stirrup]

Samurai tend to be top physical and Black Mage is top magical

[marble drift]

and are a really good say....machinist

you'll do better playing that

than something else

[leaden ginkgo]

black lives matter BLM xD

[hardy stirrup]

Also , your mastery matters more

[marble drift]

oh yes get used to the abbreviations

[lament wagon]

mch is the highest damage physical ranged

[marble drift]

FFXIV players dont have time for the O in Monk

MNK or bust

dark knight? nah fam

DRK

[obsidian patio]

Well, also because the game itself gives 3-letter acronyms (or whatever the term would be) for each job.

[leaden ginkgo]

i usually play mages in MMOs anyway

[marble drift]

still dumb tho

[hardy stirrup]

Go Black Mage then

[obsidian patio]

Black Mage has the big explosions

[hardy stirrup]

It is the classic mage class

[marble drift]

^

[obsidian patio]

Summoner has big lasers

[leaden ginkgo]

is it hard to find a queue tho

end game

Theres a fat cat mount omfg

[hardy stirrup]

No

[marble drift]

Literally translates from WoW's mages pretty much 1:1

[leaden ginkgo]

Pls daddy

[obsidian patio]

DPS queues are usually around 10-15 minutes during prime time for most content

[leaden ginkgo]

It flies???

[obsidian patio]

All mounts can fly

[marble drift]

everything from BIG crits to super high damaging spells to the whole "I don't want to move ever"

[hardy stirrup]

@obsidian patio Not all

[obsidian patio]

Yes, all can.

[leaden ginkgo]

is there guild raiding?

[obsidian patio]

They made all leftover mounts able to fly in 5.0

[hardy stirrup]

Even Company Chocobo?

[obsidian patio]

yep, that one just needs a sidequest in ishgard

[marble drift]

Guilds (knows as FC's or Free Company's) arn't really for raiding

[hardy stirrup]

If so how do I make it fly

The quest near the Astronomicum?

[obsidian patio]

Do the sidequest "I Believe I Can Fly" near Skysteel Manufactory.

[marble drift]

Generally because raids are 8 man. You form whats known as a "static"

[leaden ginkgo]

I really might have to buy that fat cat

[hardy stirrup]

Oh that one I never finished for some reason

[marble drift]

aka a static bunch of people you raid with

[leaden ginkgo]

Im trying to resist

no 24-man raids?

[marble drift]

Statics are just raid teams. basically

Yeah but they're not endgame.

[leaden ginkgo]

what about 40 man

[obsidian patio]

24-man raids are at the lower end of difficulty.

don't exist.

[hardy stirrup]

None

[marble drift]

not a thing

[hardy stirrup]

We do have a uuh

[marble drift]

Don't

don't say it

[hardy stirrup]

Does it even count?

[marble drift]

No

[leaden ginkgo]

[obsidian patio]

[marble drift]

Fuck that awful place. Don't remind SE that it exists. Let it rot

[hardy stirrup]

Yeah don't bother with it, it is kind of shit

Getting there is super shitty

Worst part of the entire game

[leaden ginkgo]

world bosses?

[obsidian patio]

A few for each expansion, yeah

[hardy stirrup]

You mean hunts?

[obsidian patio]

They drop tokens you can trade for glamour items/mounts

[hardy stirrup]

Yeah that

[marble drift]

Those would be those rare SS ranks right Wynne?

ohwait. yeah

[proud willow]

he means stuff like Foxy Lady or Ixion, I imagine

[hardy stirrup]

I never see SS ranks spawn ngl

[marble drift]

Odin and shit. Right I guess they count

[obsidian patio]

I mean the ones like Odin/Coeurlregina/Ixion/Formidable

[hardy stirrup]

Oh

[marble drift]

ugh I hate Formidable

[leaden ginkgo]

In the ps4 version if i go to ps home sceeen will it log me out?

[narrow arch]

Nope

[marble drift]

Its weird how I never thought of em as world bosses even tho they clearly are

[hardy stirrup]

They never spawn when I am on lol

[marble drift]

Odin even used to do a thing (which it doesn't anymore) where if you failed his enrage check he killed the entire zone.

Unless Im lying.

I believe he used to

[obsidian patio]

he still does

[marble drift]

oh SICK

[obsidian patio]

people just kill him fast enough

[marble drift]

havent seen it personally

[hardy stirrup]

He drops/gives the Zantetsuken emote?

[obsidian patio]

nope

[hardy stirrup]

Mog?

[obsidian patio]

I think Odin is like the only FATE that doesn't sync you down

It's from a promo item

[marble drift]

Worse. thats from the odin statue

very $$$

[obsidian patio]

the Odin limited edition statue for like $150

[hardy stirrup]

Fuk that

Not even articulated

[marble drift]

yeah but

sick emote

ngl I think the shiva one is lame

but if I had 150$ spare. I'd grab that statue

[hardy stirrup]

Not worth 150$

[leaden ginkgo]

how can i find new players to quest with

[marble drift]

personal opinion

[hardy stirrup]

@leaden ginkgo you mean for dungeons or overworld?

[leaden ginkgo]

i mean for quests

[marble drift]

Generally that stuff is handled alone.

[hardy stirrup]

Overworld then, we do not have systems for that specifically, just a party finder

We do have an auto finder for dungeons

Or any instance-based content

[leaden ginkgo]

if i buy the game is it like 400 hours of questing until I get to good stuff or what

[marble drift]

There are less Story quests that are like "Kill X things and Y things and Z things"

[hardy stirrup]

Very good system, even lvl 76 people can join lvl 15 dungeons and still get rewarded

[marble drift]

I'd say like 20 hours if you don't get distracted

[hardy stirrup]

^

[marble drift]

to get out of the ARR stuff.

[hardy stirrup]

Do not skip stuff unless you hate it tho

[marble drift]

into the first expansion content. Heavensward

where the story picks up and is cool

[hardy stirrup]

The good content start at lvl 50

[marble drift]

plus most classes get GOOD at 50

[hardy stirrup]

That is when you unlock the cool abilities, cool gear, cool bosses, cool mechanics, cool dungeons

[marble drift]

they get like a final piece to thier rotation for a while and can tear up shit

Coolness starts at 50 basically

but getting to 50 isnt a slog. the story is still fine.

[hardy stirrup]

Hell, you don't need to grind for most content

Just play casually and you'll reach endgame

[leaden ginkgo]

[hardy stirrup]

Tr8r

[marble drift]

If you JUST do Main Story Quests you'll be level gated a few times. But if you do some dungeons and maybe some side stuff you shouldn't be gated long

[leaden ginkgo]

are side quests pointless?

until lvl 50

[marble drift]

mostly.

[hardy stirrup]

Depends

[marble drift]

theres like a little system.

[hardy stirrup]

[marble drift]

the quest bubbles are different. MSQ has its own special one

[hardy stirrup]

Unlocks stuff

[marble drift]

those ones are like "this quest unlocks stuff"

[hardy stirrup]

is just side content

[leaden ginkgo]

I mean

will I miss story

or something

[hardy stirrup]

Mostly no

They tend to just build the world a bit more

[leaden ginkgo]

so u recommend I just do main quests and dungeons until 50

[hardy stirrup]

Do the main quests and

[obsidian patio]

plain sidequests are mostly super simple stuff with little tidbits of worldbuilding or lore if anything.

[hardy stirrup]

Any with this marker

[leaden ginkgo]

ok

I just did a bunch of sidequest til i was like 5 levels about the main atory

[vagrant copper]

The normal quests do have some nice loot every once in a while like the one that gives you a little dog minion

[hardy stirrup]

Don't be those weirdos who level to lvl 15 just by killing monsters in the overworld

[leaden ginkgo]

i wonder if it's worth it for me to wait 10 hours just to play the game

to create a char on that highly pop server

[hardy stirrup]

10 hours?

Oh

Unless you have a friend in a server then server choice does not matter

Since dungeons and other queues are cross-server

You do want to choose Data Centers carefully tho

[obsidian patio]

There's also world visiting which lets you freely visit other worlds on your datacenter with a few mostly minor restrictions

!faq worldvisit

[zinc orbit]

World Visit System

Info

The World Visit System allows players to visit other worlds on the same data center. After hopping to another world, you are then able to do almost everything you are normally able to such as partying up to take on duties. Click the link below to find out how it works, and what restrictions there are.

More information

[obsidian patio]

So you can make a character on Kujata and use world visit to hang out on tonberry for the most part.

[leaden ginkgo]

i already played the trial to max trial lvl like 3 times

[obsidian patio]

The main/notable restrictions of world visiting are:
You can't join Free Companies (player guilds) outside of your home server
You can't access your retainers (item banks and how you sell on the marketboard) outside of your home server
You can't buy player housing outside of your home server.
You can't access moogle mail outside of your home server.

[leaden ginkgo]

I just want my own chocobo i get sad when i dismount my rented ones

[hardy stirrup]

Lvl 20

And boom, your own oversized chicken

[vagrant copper]

level 20 missions, not level 20 character

[leaden ginkgo]

Im 16 but main quest is lvl 11

[hardy stirrup]

To do the lvl 20 quest you need lvl 20 u nugget

Just keep playing

Lvl 20 quests are super early game anyways

[marble drift]

Then you can name it and colour it and buy it fancy armours and fight with it

[leaden ginkgo]

Can i chpose the color of my 1st Chocobo?

[hardy stirrup]

No

[marble drift]

Default original yellow

[leaden ginkgo]

T T

[hardy stirrup]

You have to feed it

To change color

There is a website dedicated to it

Someone link pls

[leaden ginkgo]

Does it take long

[marble drift]

Yes if you really wanna change it, it will require somewhere to stable it. Most Free Companies have houses that have chocobo stables

[obsidian patio]

note that feeding a chocobo requires being in an FC with a house, sharing a personal house with someone, or owning an apartment

[leaden ginkgo]

I want a purple Chocobo

[obsidian patio]

https://ffxivchocobo.com/en

[marble drift]

Calculator says: 6 hours

[obsidian patio]

Do note that there is some RNG in getting your desired color, so it can take more than one feeding session

[nova umbra]

should I craft crafting/gathering gear every 5 levels, or 10 levels?

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[obsidian patio]

IMO, upgrade tools and accessories whenever you can, left-side can be upgraded every other set for pre-50.

[nova umbra]

I was crafting every single crafting/gathering gear I could, but I noticed there was a lot of overlap

[leaden ginkgo]

Is the color change permanent until u feed it again?

[proud willow]

yes

[marble drift]

yes

[leaden ginkgo]

I cant wait

[marble drift]

I don't know about the original source for all the feed

[proud willow]

there's probably some nice purple barding too, if you want to get real fancy

[marble drift]

but I quickly napkin math'd the price of all the stuff for a basic "Lavender Purple" chocobo over on the Tonberry server

and its roughly 50-60k

which isnt much.

[leaden ginkgo]

bruh that viera race tho

Sweeeet

i cant make one tho

[obsidian patio]

You need to register the expansion

[marble drift]

You need Shadowbringers on your account to make a bunny girl

[leaden ginkgo]

I have like 3.3k gil without even trying

[marble drift]

or a lion boy

[marble drift]

yeah money comes relatively fast from quests as long as you're not buying too much stuff needlessly

[proud willow]

there's Lunar Barding if you want your 'bo to have purple butterfly wings

!item Lunar Barding

[zinc orbit]

**Lunar Barding** **:** Other : ilvl 1

A suit of chocobo armor designed to resemble Tsukuyomi, Lady of the Moon.

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[leaden ginkgo]

Bruhhhhh

[marble drift]

Current price on my server: 288,000 gil

[leaden ginkgo]

Howbdo i get

[marble drift]

a little bit pricey

crafters make em with special materials from a certain boss

[leaden ginkgo]

viera endgame armor looks good?

[obsidian patio]

Armor doesn't change that drastically between races.

[marble drift]

bar a couple pieces

outliers. not a common thing

[vagrant copper]

Except Viera can't wear some headgear. It bothered me enough to change

[hardy stirrup]

Do note Viera and Hrothgar cannot equip most headgear (they can but do not show up)

[marble drift]

spectacles master race

[hardy stirrup]

Hats and helmets mostly

[obsidian patio]

You can use this website to see other glamours people have made and submitted for Viera https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/glamours/viera

[haughty wasp]

just getting back into the game and wanted to start making some money. any tips on which crafting class i should start lvling for this?

[obsidian patio]

Server-dependent.

You'll have to research stuff yourself and check things like items used in leves, furniture, glamour items, and many other stuff

[marble drift]

Yes you'll be hard pressed to make money if your server is home to those people who like to "own" a corner of the market

Elemental is a bit of a bitch in that regard sometimes but its not impossible to make gil. Honestly tho

just do treasure maps

[haughty wasp]

man ppl really take the market that seriously lol

[marble drift]

treasure maps are easy gil. so easy

[lament wagon]

what would be considered decent dps for a i480 ninja?

[marble drift]

you'd be wanting to check out the Balance discord friend

they're were you go for your class research

[obsidian patio]

!faq balance

[zinc orbit]

The Balance

Info

Discord

[leaden ginkgo]

is that new player exp worth it?

[obsidian patio]

It makes it so you basically only need to do the story for experience, though you should still do for the content they unlock.

And the exp boost is very valuable if you plan to level up crafters since it saves on resources/gil

[marble drift]

yeah the reccomended server thingie is crazy.

its almost too much xp

but luckily because you can be every class on 1 character, you can (if you want) take up secondary jobs to put xp into

[vagrant copper]

Does the city you have your retainer in matter for anything?

[obsidian patio]

They can have different tax rates which you can check by talking to the retainer vocate

[vagrant copper]

Right. They did mention something like that a while ago...

[marble drift]

unless you're operating a mass crafting ring and doing dozens and dozens of sales a day

its likely not going to impact you

[obsidian patio]

or selling a decent amount of high-value items like crafted primal weapons or new-patch glamours

[marble drift]

^

casual stuff like selling these excess materia or weird thing you picked up in a dungeon like a regular joe?

doesnt matter. stick em anywhere

[gritty oracle]

Wasn't tax rates done away?

[obsidian patio]

no, you're thinking of the ability to avoid buyer taxes by buying the item in the same city as it.

[leaden ginkgo]

I keep getting impatient

Maybe i shouldn't get into another mmo

[marble drift]

Only you can make that judgement call

[leaden ginkgo]

Fr

Its like what else can mmos do besides a bunch of fetch quests and kill x amount of things

[marble drift]

in FF's case

tell a story

a very GOOD story

[vagrant copper]

The dungeons/raids also get a lot more interesting past like... level 35 or so. The beginner ones are really beginner

[leaden ginkgo]

Ill do it just in small bursts

[radiant brook]

whats the difference between aetherial reduction and desynthesis?

[nova umbra]

why is HQ giving me less exp than NQ?

[leaden ginkgo]

is there a best race for mage

[obsidian patio]

races don't matter

the stat difference is a drop in the bucket past 50

[leaden ginkgo]

lol

"which race has highest int"

hilter joins chat

[obsidian patio]

@nova umbra are you quick synthing?

[marble drift]

literally I think theres like a difference of 2 or 3 between races on stats

and I have 4500 mainstat right now

at 80

[nova umbra]

yes, quick synthing

[leaden ginkgo]

what about race abilities

[obsidian patio]

hmm, might be a weird rounding issue.

don't exist.

[vagrant copper]

There are no race abilities

[obsidian patio]

Clan/Race is purely cosmetic

Same for Diety/birthday being flavour/for fun

[slate arrow]

best way to put it is

aethetics don't get in the way of gameplay

[nova umbra]

and then this happens. I'm confused o.o;

[slate arrow]

RNG be like that

later on you do get extra experience for attempting to HQ even if the end result isn't HQ

it sounds like the game is having a rounding error

[vagrant copper]

If I had to guess, you've crafted less HQ eye of water than NQ therefore get more bonus XP... for some reason. 🤷‍♂️

Pretty sure that's wrong but meh

[slate arrow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

nobody knows what goes on in the servers

[vagrant copper]

Could be you deserve 3.33% and it gives 0.33% to you 1/3 times

[marble drift]

honestly its all rather minor. You shouldn't worry

just smash them crafts until you're done

[hot eagle]

iirc quick synth dosent give bonus exp for hq or if it gives its not rly much since quick synth exp is the lowest anyway

[leaden ginkgo]

wait viera have weird feet?

[obsidian patio]

Don't think they do for this game?

Never played one or really looked at their feet.

[vagrant copper]

Never noticed anything weird. Though they come with high heels by default

[obsidian patio]

!aglam Female Viera Viera Sandals

[zinc orbit]

**Viera Sandals** **:** Feet

Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.

[obsidian patio]

yeah these are the boots they start with

but they have normal feet.

(Viera starting gear is Fran's outfit from FFXII)

[slate arrow]

f a n s e r v i c e

[leaden ginkgo]

[marble drift]

optional fanservice. You don't have to make your veira a carbon copy of Fran

[leaden ginkgo]

@marble drift do u know when char creation will open on that server

[marble drift]

I would honestly try in maybe 3-4 hours

[obsidian patio]

!faq worldstatus

[zinc orbit]

World status and restrictions

Info

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/

[obsidian patio]

If you want to be vigilant just keep refreshing this page every few minutes

[marble drift]

^

[leaden ginkgo]

i wish they had a history on the site

[obsidian patio]

it dynamically changes every few seconds, would be hard to track

Either way, right now it's primetime for JP so you'll have to wait a couple hours for things to die down

[marble drift]

Yeah if this is the time you usually play at, then you'll definately want to get onto a server here on Elemental

[leaden ginkgo]

?

[obsidian patio]

Elemental is the main JP datacenter english players go to.

[leaden ginkgo]

i cant buy the game using paypal?

[vagrant copper]

You might be able to buy "crysta" with it and then buy the game with Crysta...? (Don't ask me how that works)

[leaden ginkgo]

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B07SK92WZ6/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=final+fantasy+xiv&qid=1587461565&sr=8-2

does this include shadowbringers?

in the description it says

"This is a great value package that includes all the expansion packages from "Final Fantasy XIV: The New Eorzea" to "Final Fantasy XIV: Jet Black Villains".
"FINAL FANTASY XIV Complete Pack" does not come with the "FINAL FANTASY XIV: Jet Black Villains" reservation privilege."

[obsidian patio]

Yes.

[leaden ginkgo]

im confused

[obsidian patio]

Jet Black Villains is the JP name for shadowbringers.

[leaden ginkgo]

what is " does not come with the "FINAL FANTASY XIV: Jet Black Villains" reservation privilege.""

like closed beta

?

[obsidian patio]

I think that means the pre-order or collector's edition stuff?

Lemme try to find a similar version of that item on the english store

[vagrant copper]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/shadowbringers/product/#ce talks about early access

[leaden ginkgo]

ok so if I buy that

it includes every expansion

it's like the same thing that they sell on the game store

[whole wasp]

yes, shadowbringers include all previous expansions

[leaden ginkgo]

interesting

WoW doesnt do that

[obsidian patio]

Yeah it's done the opposite

to where the base game is just the base game and the expansions are all bundled together.

It only becomes a bit screw-y when the next expansion is soon and you're not sure if you want to buy the current expansion or wait for the next one to hit

[warped nest]

That awkward period last for 3-6 months, depending on how fast a new player progress

[slender sphinx]

Hello, I am having rouble finding the lvl 52 WM quest in the North Shroud

[obsidian patio]

Though I do remember SE giving out heavensward, the first expansion, for free during that period for shadowbringers

which helped tide people over.

@slender sphinx have you completed the base game story entirely and have entered Ishgard?

[warped nest]

You don't get the job quests for 52-60 until you get into Heavensward story

[slender sphinx]

I am unsure, the quest I am o ln right now is "recruiting the realm"

[warped nest]

Definitely not

[obsidian patio]

You still have a way to go then

[leaden ginkgo]

iirc when shadowbringers came out it didnt include stuff

[warped nest]

Lvl 50 covers a lot of stuff

There were some promotions and what not before

[slender sphinx]

Thank you for the information :)

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[leaden ginkgo]

what is this

[whole wasp]

sounds like their experience in the JP datacenter

[slate arrow]

It's a bad review.

[halcyon rune]

I mean, tank and healer queues are universally long.

[slate arrow]

If you want reviews more indicative of the experience, I recommend Steam.

[leaden ginkgo]

iirc steam reviewers complain about client

[whole wasp]

we dont really know whats is like on the JP datacentres since we dont play there

we also cant read moon runes

well most of us cant

[leaden ginkgo]

"DO NOT BUY THIS IF YOU ALREADY REGISTERED YOUR ACCOUNT ON THE NON STEAM VERSION. What they fail to mention when you purchase this is that they consider this a completely different version from the main Windows edition and you will not be able to use that account"

[whole wasp]

yea thats true. its a good PSA

[vagrant copper]

tank and healer queues are universally long
... really? odd world then

[bitter plaza]

that review reads like he tried to queue for levelling roulette with a DPS job or something

[halcyon rune]

I meant waiting for*

[bitter plaza]

the Japanese DCs are packing

[halcyon rune]

You gonna admit, progressing thru the story as a dps can take a while. That's what Trust was added for.

[whole wasp]

so player got angry because they tried to queue as DPS, doesnt like healing or tanking and assumes others dont and cant swallow the longer queue time,. They also cant sell on the marketboard and have shit internet and assumes everybody's peak hour is their peak hour is what im reading it

[bitter plaza]

I wonder what other games he is comparing it to

PSO2 maybe?

[leaden ginkgo]

You gonna admit, progressing thru the story as a dps can take a while. That's what Trust was added for.
@halcyon rune what is Trust

[halcyon rune]

It's a Shadowbringers thing. You can clear dungeons with npcs.

They are competent enough

[leaden ginkgo]

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B07QBBSPPN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=final%2Bfantasy%2Bxiv&qid=1587461565&sr=8-2&th=1 the physical copy is 1000Y cheaper than the download/digital copy, anyone know if I buy the physical copy they'll email me the key ahead of time so I dont have to wait for delivery?

[vagrant copper]

I'd find that very unlikely with Amazon

[halcyon rune]

With the world's current state of affairs, I doubt it.

[vagrant copper]

I feel like you'd also have to worry about import tax with a physical product but IDK

[agile laurel]

Wild comment, but does anyone know how https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/8d52df7173e responds to dyes? dlunch model viewer seems to suggest only the filigree changes, but I don't have it ingame to see

[leaden ginkgo]

I feel like you'd also have to worry about import tax with a physical product but IDK
@vagrant copper i live in jp

[vagrant copper]

ah

[leaden ginkgo]

[warped nest]

@agile laurel

In that page

On the item icon

Do you see the grey circle on the top left of the icon?

[agile laurel]

yup

[warped nest]

The circle is the current dye color

[agile laurel]

this is gonna be a really embarrasing answer isn't it

[warped nest]

Oh

[agile laurel]

yesbut

[warped nest]

how it responds to dye

[agile laurel]

i just gotta know HOw IT DYES

oops

[warped nest]

You are better off checking in game

[agile laurel]

yeah, was my thinking

dlunch only thinks the filigree bits change colour which is dire if so

[warped nest]

Search it on Marketboard, Try On, Dye Preview

[agile laurel]

but I swear i've seen 'em

[warped nest]

I don't think so

[agile laurel]

not ingame atm is the probs

[warped nest]

Usually with gears made with mostly fabrics

Most of it changes

[agile laurel]

laughs in skallic jacket

but anyway, yeah I guess I'll just abide til I can get ingame

[warped nest]

If this doesn't work out

There are many choices for Aiming Hat/Tricone

[agile laurel]

It's a temporary glam til I can get/afford the dalmascan pieces I want

cause obviously they are not exactly cheap

[leaden ginkgo]

@marble drift https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6hysnv/tonberry_server_congestion/ did this happen to u

[slate arrow]

!status Tonberry

[zinc orbit]

Information

Tonberry is currently Online
This server is currently: Standard
Creation of New Characters Unavailable

[slate arrow]

It's normal.

[leaden ginkgo]

where do i check char creation

[slate arrow]

Wait until off hours to make a new character.

[whole wasp]

!faq worldstatus

[zinc orbit]

World status and restrictions

Info

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/

[slate arrow]

COVID-19 means there's more people online than normal.

[tame notch]

hi im checking the bahamut chain quest, apparently i only cleared the quest 'Primal Awakening' but i unlocked all of the quest, is this normal?

[leaden ginkgo]

i cant access that website.

[tame notch]

*all of the bahamut chain quest

[whole wasp]

thats what it shows right now

[slate arrow]

you unlocked all the instances, you mean?

[whole wasp]

red means creation of new character unavaliable

[leaden ginkgo]

which website

[slate arrow]

!faq worldstatus

[zinc orbit]

World status and restrictions

Info

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/worldstatus/

[slate arrow]

If you can't access it replace na with jp

[tame notch]

yeah i unlocked all bahamut raid instances,

[vagrant copper]

Click the big blue log out button

[slate arrow]

@tame notch just do turn 4 and you can continue the quest

[tame notch]

i can click on it on duty finder without accepting the other quest

[slate arrow]

oh that's normal

Once you unlock the instances it's disconnected from quest progression

but you still need said quests to continue the raid series so

[leaden ginkgo]

@vagrant copper lol

then it just asks me to log in bruh

[tame notch]

i see, i was afraid that i did something wrong there, the quest that prompt me to clear the binding coil is not in my journal

[vagrant copper]

Then your website works different than mine 🤷‍♂️

[slate arrow]

It's been a while so

Just do turn 4 unsynced and see if a quest pops up

If nothing pops up Google or look up the coils of bahamut on Gamerescape

[tame notch]

when u say unsynced do you mean like under the duty finder option?

theres only join party in progress, undersized party, minimum IL,Silence echo for me

[slate arrow]

Yeah.

Undersized party is unsync

[tame notch]

when i use that option i entered the dungeon solo

[slate arrow]

Nobody queues for coils of bahamut so it's the only way to actually get in the instance.

That, or use party finder, but nobody does it synced unless it's for BLU mage

[tame notch]

is it doable solo at level 60?

[slate arrow]

as a paladin or red mage, maybe, since you need self sustain

any other job will have trouble because they won't be able to heal themselves

I'd recommend just throwing up a party finder advertising first time bonus

A lot of people want poetics so you'll probably get a few people in a few minutes.

[tame notch]

alright so just to sum up, the bahamut quest is still there, but is not shown in journal, use PF and do unsynced run right?

[slate arrow]

I'm not sure how ARR handles raid quests so I'd recommend going to the waking sands and checking if urianger had any bahamut quests active I think

Otherwise you should be fine?

[vagrant copper]

When does that whole "paladin healing themselves" thing happen? I'm not seeing anything

[proud willow]

!action Clemency

[zinc orbit]

**Clemency** : lvl 58 PLD (4000 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)

Restores target's HP.
Cure Potency: 1,200
Additional Effect: Restores to self 50% of HP restored to target if target is a party member

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[proud willow]

level 58

[vagrant copper]

ah, right then.

[silent pike]

Pro Paladin tip though don’t use this

[vagrant copper]

... why? Seems better than using potions all the time

[lament wagon]

you're using potions?

[silent pike]

Let your healer heal you

Giving them nothing to do will make them mad

Lol

[vagrant copper]

The whole conversation was about soloing dungeons and stuff so... yeah, no healer

[silent pike]

And also clemency takes a GCD so you would be using it over your damage GCDs

So it lowers your damage

Yeah it is mostly used for soloing

Just never in group contexts

[proud willow]

Yeah, anytime someone says anything along the lines of "PLD is the best for that because of their self heal", they're always talking about soloing content

[inland solar]

Hello, i went back to the game a week ago and wanted to know, what is the best way to farm gils at the moment ? Thank you

[hard elk]

damn 😦

[slate arrow]

@inland solar firstly: do the MSQ. You'll get 1-2 million gil, maybe even 3 million from quest rewards.

secondly, if you want gil, farming old endgame content for rare drops is generally a decent, abeit long way to do it.

Gil doesn't come fast though, unless you're a crafter at Max level.

[inland solar]

Hello ! I forgot to precise it : I finished the MSQ, and got many classes lvl80. (Also crafters)

[slate arrow]

Even then, supply and demand.

Okay well then

Check the marketboard for what sells and craft it

I assume you also have the required books from Rowena/mowen as well as both gatherers

[inland solar]

Required books ? You mean for the special crafts ?

[slate arrow]

yes

Master craft 7 and 8 for all jobs

[blissful matrix]

where do i check how many bicolor gemstones I possess?

[inland solar]

The problem is that i never really know 'what' to craft exactly. By that mean, what is the most wanted/needed at the moment

[slate arrow]

I can't tell you that

You'll have to check your local marketboard yourself

General rule of thumb though is always current gear, current food, and current potions.

[inland solar]

Alright

[slate arrow]

Though, current gear has fallen off due to Idealized gear from the latest Extreme

But accessories are still a safe bet

[inland solar]

Noted ! Thank you.

[slate arrow]

Alternatively, you can also sell shinryu weapons, provided you can get a shinryu extreme party going. Those sell for a pretty penny since Shinryu Extreme is still tough, even at level 80.

And the scale which drops for the craft is also a low drop rate

[inland solar]

Right, but is the shinryu stuff needed a 100% loot ?

[slate arrow]

no but if you do get one it's an easy couple hundred thousand to a few million gil

[magic light]

you can check for bicolor gemstones through the FATE info thing

[slate arrow]

Shared Fates under travel

[inland solar]

That's pretty interesting indeed, since i only have like 50k gils lol.

[slate arrow]

oh

what have you been spending your Gil on

[inland solar]

nvm

Well, on things i couldn't craft myself.

[slate arrow]

[inland solar]

I've been lvling up my crafters a lot lately, lol

Also i'm an idiot, so it won't help.

[slate arrow]

I wish you good luck in your gil hunting endeavours then

[inland solar]

Thank you ! Will need it for sure.

[supple gorge]

Hello. I already contacted support about this, but was wondering if anyone had the same issue. A friend got me into playing this game, and I have been loving it so far. Anyway, yesterday she gifted me the base game, which I am grateful for, and I was very happy! well...until I tried to use it. Only then we found out that codes are region locked or something, and I can not use it as she is from America and I am from Europe :/ Hopefully it will get resolved. Anyone had the same/similar issue.

[wintry chasm]

If you're thinking they are going to refund it I wouldn't hold your breath unless they got it from some other party like Amazon in which case maybe.

[supple gorge]

Well, I am hoping they will do something about it 😄 let me change region, or exchange the code, or something. Well, in the worst case I will just start anew with different region set during registration.

[wintry chasm]

If you think that's a good idea

You will be locked into that region though

[supple gorge]

Well, it seems like the only solution, in case they wont do anything.

It does not really matter if I iwll be locked int othat region, does it?

[blissful matrix]

@magic light what fate info thing?

shared fate?

found it

thanks

[wintry chasm]

You'd be stuck having to get things like expansions in that region and only promotional events that apply to NA will work on your account

Otherwise no Alex?

[supple gorge]

Ah, I do not mind that.

Well, I will wait if and what the support says and then I will decide what to do next.

[wintry chasm]

Good plan

I'd also see about being able to swap regions

I'm not sure what their policy is on that but I'd be surprised if they said it was impossible

[supple gorge]

its strange that it can not be changed, what if someone moves?

well, we will see

[wintry chasm]

Right hence why I said I'd be surprised if you couldn't

[agile laurel]

Is City of Skalla unsyncable solo at any point? trying to farm for jacket and it sucks

[low plank]

i was told that the loot in the copied factory is weekly but does that also include the final boss chest where the coffers drop?

[wintry chasm]

None of it is weekly anymore except the cluster for running it

[whole wasp]

its no longer weekly iirc

[low plank]

ah okay so i can jsut run it over and over again until i get it?

[whole wasp]

yup

[low plank]

nice thank you

[wintry chasm]

but no the items at the end like the 2B glamour chest has never been under a lockout

[low plank]

only from the bosses before then?

[wintry chasm]

only the actual like

real pieces of gear

[low plank]

striking maiming etc right?

[wintry chasm]

right

the actual useful gear

[low plank]

ok thanks for clearing my confusion

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[low plank]

but i wont get the tomestones every run right? do they reset with roulette or is it weekly

[wintry chasm]

You'd get the tomestones each run

[whole wasp]

alliance roulette tomestone is daily. the copied factory 20 tomestones you get every run

[wintry chasm]

The only thing you shouldn't get each run is the materia cluster

[chilly eagle]

Does anyone know roughly how long msq up to heavensword takes? I’m casual and can only play a few hours a day at most. Contemplating, dare I say it, a skip/boost to 50.

[main cairn]

If I want to make gathering gear, dnc gear and tools. Besides blacksmithing what do I need?

Weaver and leatherwork?

[ashen jasper]

Its quite the slog sadly but its important if your interested in the story

[vagrant copper]

To give you an idea, there's about 240 ARR quests

40-80 hours is my estimate. Though it depends on how much you get side tracked and watch cutscenes and actually read stuff

[chilly eagle]

My time is limited these days with 9 month old son and would perhaps prefer not to churn through the grind/fetch of arr if it’s reasonable to do so. I am interested in the story so would probably spend an hour or so reading/watching catch ups.

If it’s 40-80 that could be alright to do.

I heard there is the patch later this year which will cut it down some. Though at that point I might be past it.

[main cairn]

@chilly eagle they promised that patch for quite a while now

I believe it when I see it actually arriving

[ashen jasper]

Yeah that patch has been something they have talked about for a hot minute

[main cairn]

Iirc even during stormblood it was talked about

[ashen jasper]

It needs to happen, coz its expecting quite alot from a new player and pushes alot away

[main cairn]

Yes, I just bought a skip on my new char.. I couldn't be bothered doing all that again just to unlock a class and do more all over again

[chilly eagle]

I’m in two minds because there is the story/full appreciation camp but then I also have to respect my limited time as a new dad lol. If arr is largely fetch quests and slow combat I might skip.

[faint flare]

Its "aimed" for 5.3 so

We'll see on the 24th with the LL

If they talk about it

[main cairn]

Yea.. Again, I'll see it when it happens haha

[ashen jasper]

There is about to be a decent story summary video on YT for ARR content I'd asume

[chilly eagle]

Is it still shunned in the community to skip? From reading online it seems contentious

[warped nest]

It is not shunned

[ashen jasper]

Who cares

[chilly eagle]

Haha

[warped nest]

But you are missing the setup for the stories

[chilly eagle]

True

[ashen jasper]

If its getting in the way of you enjoying the game

[warped nest]

Imo, you can just skip ARR

[ashen jasper]

Thats what matters most at the end of the day right

[warped nest]

I personally barely remember anything from ARR

[blissful matrix]

pray return to teh waking sands

[chilly eagle]

I’m fairly enjoying the world and stuff but I feel I’ve done my time in training wheels mode playing mmos for over a decade lol

[warped nest]

I paid the most attention to Shadowbringers cuz I have just enough capacity to handle the number of characters in Shadowbringers

[ashen jasper]

Thats all I remember from ARR Techimura xD

[vagrant copper]

The only real negative IMO is if you go from newb to 70 without the player skills to back it up. People expect you to somewhat know stuff at that point. 🤷‍♂️

[chilly eagle]

I’m only planning the boost to 50 I think

I still want to level after ARR

[vagrant copper]

Is that actually an option? didn't see anything like it on mogstation

[chilly eagle]

oh

I thought it was

Poo

[warped nest]

It is

You can skip to the beginning of HW, SB, or ShB

I think level skip is just lvl 70

[vagrant copper]

Right, so if you do the story skip, you're still at level 1, right?

[warped nest]

Imma call in the calvary to clear this up, just to be 100% sure

[blissful matrix]

Yea

[warped nest]

Yes Lost

<@&472496619577671691>

[chilly eagle]

Oh crap yeh. But if I skip to HW without a level skip then I’ll be basically noob town. And if I skip to 70 I’ll be over levelled for the content

[vagrant copper]

So different kind of a grind but still a grind

[warped nest]

Grinding for level is faster than grinding story

[fresh lodge]

Whats the question?

[faint flare]

Job boosts dont skip story

[warped nest]

What kind of skips are available for purchase?

[blissful matrix]

once you get to lvl 50 you can buy the arr skip and start at HW, but if you skip the story at 40 you won't be able to begin the HW questline

[faint flare]

Story boost doesn't level you

[fresh lodge]

Level 70, ARR, HW, SB

[slate arrow]

All jobs except shadowbringers, and ARR, HW, and SB

[faint flare]

You'll need.both in tandem

[warped nest]

Thanks, Meara

You don't need both

If you skip story

You unlock all the story and story related dungeons

Which means you can grind dungeon

Grinding dungeon from lvl 15-50 is nothing

[faint flare]

Well if you want to jump into Shadowbringers immediately

[warped nest]

Oh, Shadowbringers, yeah...

[faint flare]

Otherwise you'll have to level via other means

[warped nest]

15-70 is not bad, if you have a few days

Plus you get to practice your job

[rich bay]

Very important

[chilly eagle]

Hmm

Decisions

[warped nest]

@chilly eagle if you do job boost, I have a quick advice

[vagrant copper]

Level boost an unrelated class to 70 then level up the class you actually want to play for the armory bonus. lol

[warped nest]

When you get a high level job (job boost or expansion jobs), you should remove all skills off the hotbar

Find a striking dummy (ask here where to)

Add skills back one by one and practice using them on the dummy

This "simulate" leveling up the job to their current level

It is not a perfect simulation, but at least it gives your a clearer picture on how their skills work

[chilly eagle]

Yes I’d probably do that. Though I like the sound of boosting a second job just to level your main job faster.

That way you get the bonus but can still level somewhat normally

And when you get higher level you have an off spec at 70

[warped nest]

Up to you

[ashen jasper]

will make a dungeon grind alot less painful

[warped nest]

I don't recommend boosting any of the Stormblood jobs

Or Shadowbringers job (if this is actually an option)

[chilly eagle]

P.s any scholar players here? Is it in a bad place right now? Saw a survey about job satisfaction and people were pretty unhappy with it. Which sucks because I planned to main it as a healer. But people seem to enjoy white mage more?

[warped nest]

SB jobs starting level is high enough so it is not worth paying for the boost

Healer is just a bit eh eh in Shadowbringers

Not because they are "absolutely the worst"

They just aren't as satisfying to play

[chilly eagle]

Hmm kinda sucky I was looking forward to healer.

[narrow glacier]

The main thing with SCH is that if you're not used to how to manage it panic healing becomes a very unfortunate situation

[blissful matrix]

seems like an opinion

[latent haven]

Which DoH/DoL should I get? I'm still new in FFXIV.

[warped nest]

You don't really get to pick

To get the most values, you want to do all DoH

You can skip Culinarian if you really want to

For DoL, you can skip Fisher, but Miner/Botanist are compulsory if you want to supply your DoH

[slate arrow]

It's all of the above or none of the above and no you really can't pick and choose and if you're leveling up 7 of them you might as well level up CUL as well

[blissful matrix]

Play healer if you want, a lot fo people find it satisfying

[warped nest]

You can pick just one, it will hurt your in game wallet in the long run

[latent haven]

How fast can I level them up?

[slate arrow]

reasonably fast

[blissful matrix]

for me they were half as slow as combat jobs

[warped nest]

Not turning anyone away from playing healer (I have all of them at 80 btw)

[blissful matrix]

youll zip by a lot

[latent haven]

So which ones should I start with first?

[ashen jasper]

Im doing it atm, just stick some spotify on and chill

[blissful matrix]

id start with DoL

min/bot

[warped nest]

DoH 1-15 can be done inside their guilds

[slate arrow]

personally, get DoL to 50 first and start planning out what resources you'll need to get for DoH

[warped nest]

You level DoH from 1-15 by doing all low level recipes once with materials you buy from your guilds

[slate arrow]

because if you don't plan ahead your gathering you'll be spending a lot of time and/or gil collecting stuff

[runic sluice]

do you need to level crafts? (actual question) Can you just do DoW?

[slate arrow]

no

[warped nest]

Crafting and gathering is optional

Very very very optional

[slate arrow]

Crafters are completely optional

[chilly eagle]

So if I’ve changed my mind from scholar and want to play white mage, I’m currently level 15. Do I need to run from Limsa to old gridania to get learn/become a conjuror instead?

[latent haven]

Where is the botanist guild?

[blissful matrix]

old Gridania

[warped nest]

Old Gridania, North west

[ashen jasper]

my playtime is about 260 days and Im just getting round to it now

[warped nest]

Yes, UK

[slate arrow]

@chilly eagle keep doing the MSQ, you can't get off Limsa island without airship or boats but both are MSQ locked

[runic sluice]

is that optional as in, you'd get a bunch of perks for my main DoW job? Or really not necessary to play end game properly?

[chilly eagle]

Okay what might be a good time to change?

[warped nest]

Yeah, almost everything is gated by your

Whenever you want to

[slate arrow]

The perks are mostly passive

Ability to meld your gear without needing a melder

repair without repairman

Overrepair your gear to 199%

[runic sluice]

what about gil?

can you have proper "income" without crafts?

[slate arrow]

oh gil is the hard part since you have to put effort into that

[warped nest]

What qualify as proper?

[runic sluice]

whatever is needed to keep up to date with gear, etc

[slate arrow]

You get passive income from roulettes, completing instances, and doing stuff like hunts

[warped nest]

Those don't need gils

[runic sluice]

I just care about raids and dungeons really

[warped nest]

Those comes from doing raids

[slate arrow]

also, you don't need gil for gear

You can just raid for gear

[runic sluice]

money for repairs, etc

you know, whatever is essential

[warped nest]

You will always have money to repair

[rancid vector]

So i have a question about desynth. Someone told me value was shared and someone else told me it was not. Either way i do not seem to be getting XP desynthing some low level masks for my skill, does anyone know how the desynth xp works?

[runic sluice]

I come from WoW, kinda new to FFIV a bit still

[warped nest]

Np

We got you covered, Vasher

[slate arrow]

@rancid vector tl;dr higher level than current desynth will add to your desynth level. Anything lower than your current desynth will not add.

[runic sluice]

yeah mate so far loving it

[vagrant copper]

If you're not trying to buy a house or buy a bunch of cosmetic stuff, gil is honestly kind of a non-issue

[runic sluice]

lvl 50 now

the only thing I notice is the dungoes and raids seem terribly easy

[warped nest]

If you do some of your daily duty roulette

[runic sluice]

I suppose they are nerfed

[warped nest]

And a few weekly challenge log here and there

[slate arrow]

Dungeons are always easy

[warped nest]

You are gonna be fine with gil

[hot crane]

where can I get this "Esuna" as conjurer?

job quest?

[slate arrow]

Alliance roulette is faceroll because people are overgeared

[warped nest]

Probably

!action Esuna

[slate arrow]

@hot crane role actions

[zinc orbit]

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[hot crane]

oh

[warped nest]

Action
Role Action
Trait

I believe

[hot crane]

I am just lv 8

[slate arrow]

There is hard content at 50, but almost nobody does it at level. The Coils of Bahamut, namely.

[forest laurel]

esuna is unlocked as soon as you're level 10

[hot crane]

my teammate keep saying I must have it already

lol

[runic sluice]

yeah I noticed that...it feels like you don't even need to break a sweat. Only real fun so far I had was extremes.

like actually wiping

that was good fun

[warped nest]

EX is on the easy end of hard content

[slate arrow]

Yeah this game isn't very endgame focused

[runic sluice]

yeah but with PUGs, I mean it's been challenging

[warped nest]

Ehhh, it has endgame focus

[slate arrow]

This game is about the story and journey of the warrior of light

[ashen jasper]

Is there any resources for finding FCs? Recently moved servers and none of my friends play anymore -_-

[slate arrow]

Endgame is just a nice cherry on top

[hot crane]

potd seems leveling slowly?

[warped nest]

It is just that most content doesn't require endgame gear

Potd is not meant to be the fastest way

[vagrant copper]

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[runic sluice]

if it's not end game focused? Then what is the focus?

[ashen jasper]

thankss

[slate arrow]

The story :P

[hot crane]

hmm I should do hunting log instead I guess

[vagrant copper]

The story and doing cute things

[warped nest]

It has endgame contents

[vagrant copper]

And mahjong

[runic sluice]

yeah story has been impressive

but I really enjoy end game raids

[warped nest]

It has hardcore PvE endgame, but it is entirely optional

[runic sluice]

been kinda assuming it's just because everything is nerfed

[warped nest]

Most of this game is entirely optional tbh

[runic sluice]

that its a bit too easy

[slate arrow]

Well also level 50 stuff was highly experimental

[vagrant copper]

There's plenty of hard stuff but you have to get there and actually look for it

[narrow glacier]

Savage gear is mostly needed if you're doing current tier savage / Ultimates to maximize DPS for avoiding wipes

[slate arrow]

Trying to do things as intended was super difficult

[warped nest]

@hot crane ignoring queue time, roulette = dungeon >> potd

[slate arrow]

so they just set the item level sync to 135 and called it a day

[warped nest]

Savage gear is technically not needed for savage raids XD

It is just for comfy

[slate arrow]

Unless it's for ultimate

in which case yeah you kinda need that extra edge

[warped nest]

Yeah, Ultimate is tuned to BiS