Lmao oh wow
#questions-and-help
warped nest
@rain ingot just so you know why 50/60/70 dungeons are not recoomended
they were the endgame dungeons in their respective expansions
so they originally didn't give out any exp at all
the adds in the dungeon give out some exp now that they aren't the endgame dungeons, but it is not good enough to compete with the lvl 47/48 (??), 59, and 69 dungeons
rain ingot
Oojh ok
warped nest
have fun leveling
rocky grotto
obsidian patio
Go to the doman enclave and then to the docks
spiral ridge
ty
cunning palm
which job/ classes clear dungeones the fastest?
obsidian patio
!faq meta
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
People don’t really care about specific classes for dungeons since they’re casual content
Just play what you like.
lyric warren
what ilvl was the new relic first step?
wintry chasm
485 weapon
if you do the EX trial for the upgraded AF4 gear that's dyeable that's 480
but both have 5 guaranteed melding slots
wispy shard
Am I able to wear two of the same rings if they're something like "Brass Ring of Crafting"?
main halo
So I just finished the quests to go around the three cities for the first time, and after taking the Golden Saucer tour I'm not quite sure what I should be doing for the main quest bits, I don't have any quests beyond a class one.
junior yacht
you're only restricted from wearing two of the same ring if they have the Unique tag
which is pretty much exclusively associated with blue and green gear
wispy shard
Great, thanks JET.
junior yacht
If you're ever unsure, it's right at the top of the information window
main halo
All class quests designed for slightly above the level required to take them?
junior yacht
the piece on the left has UNIQUE at the top
main halo
Are all*
junior yacht
no, class quests are designed under the assumption that you are the level at which it becomes available
main halo
weird, this Thamateurgy quest was open at level 14...but the scenario...instance...thing, said Level 18.
strange coral
It syncs down to 18 probably. So if you outleveled it to 22, you'll be level 18 when you do the duty
main halo
So that number isn't the recommended level, it's just the max level you'll be synced too?
to*
leaden ginkgo
Hey, I got like 165mil gill laying around on my acc. Am I allowed to sell it?
there's no such thing as a level 14 job quest
main halo
15 then? It's been hours since I got the quest but the Level 18 warning on the scenario bit made me leave and want to come back when I leveled a bit.
junior yacht
@leaden ginkgo what would you be selling it for? real-world money?
leaden ginkgo
yea
junior yacht
because that's a big no-no
leaden ginkgo
oh...
main halo
It is "The Threat of Superiority", what I -think- is the Level 15 Thamatur...Thamatra....I can't spell that word.
leaden ginkgo
couldn't find anything in the user agreement, thats why im asking...
main halo
But that quest.
echo tapir
it's against ToS but if all parties agree to not talk about it
twilit arch
the lvl 18 warning was probably the game telling you that you'll be sync'd down to 18 if you are above that lvl
echo tapir
then they can't stop you
main halo
An odd thing to tell me when I was only level 15!
twilit arch
some people do the class quests later
echo tapir
but it's also just a bitch to trade gil cause 1million limit every trade
junior yacht
(don't do that, btw)
twilit arch
its just the game letting you know about the lvl sync
junior yacht
(do job quests as they become available)
main halo
Oof, I'vel eft it for two levels, I'll go do it now I guess XD
junior yacht
(you'll save yourself and your teammates lot of heartache)
wintry chasm
Yeah it's just so you don't one shot the instance Yelgi xD
main halo
The game felt like it opened up a ton when it just dropped two more cities on me!
wintry chasm
It does that
junior yacht
that's because it did :V
main halo
Ooh, dungeons? Cool.
languid zinc
Okay, easy question
If i chose one of the grand companies
Does it mean i'll do all the further Main Quests for that particular GC?
Also, is there a way to get same glamour as Alphinaud and Alisaie?
echo tapir
yea the main quest isn't tied to GC at all
unreal badge
ty all for answering my question earlier
main halo
I didn't realize this game's professions were individual classes, super weird.
echo tapir
yea they all have their own story
wintry chasm
Yeah grand companies are unlocked by main story but aren't part of main story, it's a side thing really
got it
main halo
I'm glad I started in...this desert place, it seems the most...city-like, I guess?
wintry chasm
And what Rab said was aimed at Yelgi
languid zinc
and can be changed every 14 days iirc
so i'll be able to get all the glamour i want
wintry chasm
It's...sadly the most focused on city-state tbh :(
main halo
Well I'm glad I like it then!
wintry chasm
@languid zinc you can only use glamour of the grand company you currently are
languid zinc
bruh
echo tapir
yea i like the desert Ul'dah city the most cause the market area is good to craft in for me + peaceful
main halo
Though I think I'm too dumb for the story, least a bit. I -think- that snooty noble I met like...an hour in turned out to be the lady incharge...but I think the reveal of it went over my head completely.
echo tapir
everything is within reach
languid zinc
No patriotism! Only glamour is what matter!
echo tapir
@main halo that just makes it more interesting then lol
main halo
Also apparently all the voice actors change at some point?
wintry chasm
When you hit the first expansion if you're playing in English
twilit arch
the EN voice actors change with heavensward, yeah
main halo
That's pretty funny, my friend said everyone becomes British.
languid zinc
So i'll stick with Japanese VA till the end of ARR
main halo
The voice acting -is- SUPER WEIRD.
wintry chasm
It's Americans either doing bad acting or fake accents or both
main halo
You can tell it's a Japanese team trying to direct English actors, and there's a ton of intent lost in translation.
wintry chasm
Imo there are only a few good ARR ENG VAs
The Heavensward onwards English dub is insanely good
main halo
Idk, first person with a voice was that blonde mask boi, voiced by everyone's favorite illuminati Taliesen Jaffe.
wintry chasm
🤔
main halo
He's one of the CR people.
Also after like 10 hours of playing, I've finally noticed that the day/night thing isn't 1 to 1 ingame, that's -weird-.
wintry chasm
Wdym?
main halo
Days and nights pass not in real time.
wintry chasm
That it isn't 24h real time?
main halo
Yeah!
twilit arch
ya
wintry chasm
Well that'd be weird
twilit arch
wow does it, and its kind of awful
main halo
Idk, I played Wow for 14 years and I liked it.
twilit arch
but yeah, day/night cycle is basically 1 day in game is 70 minutes IRL
wintry chasm
So you just have to not sleep if you want to experience night?
twilit arch
kind of sucks if you are only able to play during one time, so you never get to see zones at the other time
i play a lot at night, so seeing zones in day time is pretty rare
main halo
I suppose, though you don't really get to see the zones in any time for long in this game, the time passes so quick. Must be odd for roleplayers.
Also, I'm guessing the first players of this game were meant to be players of the old game, right?
wintry chasm
They could transfer their character yes
main halo
Because holy shit, this game throws SO MUCH LORE STUFF at you. I don't know nothin' about FF-related stuff, so I just had an anime-kaleidoscope blasted in my eyeballs.
wintry chasm
y-yeah
The game does a good job of explaining it for new players
They do kinda go on about the same stuff for the base game story
languid zinc
I need to say that Real Time system in WoW is nice
Although the night as well as here, is not noticable enough
In Black Desert for example, it used to be dark as hell
wintry chasm
Like keep referring back so you get it into your head
main halo
I still don't know what Primals are, I assume they're...like FFX Aeons? They have the same names anyway.
dim ridge
nope not quite the same thing
twilit arch
How far are you into the msq?
wintry chasm
^
dim ridge
basically they keep giving you more and more info over time, via not-always-reliable narrators
¯_(ツ)_/¯
main halo
I just did my visit to the two other cities that I had never seen before...only to be trapped in a Gold Saucer tour.
wintry chasm
Pfft
dim ridge
you'll get more info fairly soon
wintry chasm
Right well keep going
echo tapir
so you're like level 15-ish?
wintry chasm
They explain it in more detail
main halo
17, yeah.
echo tapir
yea
twilit arch
Yeah, primals, etc will be explained more later
echo tapir
the game will explain it
twilit arch
the game is pretty good at explaining itself, for the most part
so if you don't quite understand something, its likely that somewhere later on the story will cover it
main halo
They keep talking about those...I don't remember what they're called, the beastdudes using primals in a bad way, but without ever seeing what the heck they are, it's hard to care.
wintry chasm
Yeah like for example the Battle at Carteneau is brought up like, 5 times just so you remember what happened there
main halo
I find I just wanna work for these weird tiny brothers who burn stuff, and hang out with bull-shoulder man.
Bull-Shoulder Man is dope by the way.
main halo
I'm not a fan of "Forsooth Navy Lady" and "Forest Elf Waifu"
wintry chasm
Limsa is best city though, I won't let you silly their name and the leader of Gridania is not an elf
Smh
main halo
FNL talks in old-english and it's weird every single time, and I've only seen her for like two seconds.
I don't know your weird FF-replacements for Gygax shite!
twilit arch
"olde" english is pretty par for the course for most of the game tho
misty lily
i had to restart my character due to my friends all being in a different instance, i was lvl 33 and how now lost the double exp buff till 70, is there a way my high level friends can power level me up to the point i was at?
e.g. going to a high level area and getting them to kill the monsters?
twilit arch
so not really specific to merlwyb
wintry chasm
You'll love em
main halo
Hearing Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn as the VOICE OF GOD was also weird.
"HEAR, SPEAK, TASTE" Okay but what are you, mysterious voice? Get out of my dreams, also stop giving me sleep apnea.
Idk what it is about my character but I apparently don't sleep nearly enough, because I pass out the moment I finish a big battle or if someone talks at me about something important for more than 20 seconds.
twilit arch
not really, you should be focusing on the main scenario quest. you can have your friends help you with queues but power leveling (atleast for anything not blu) isn't really viable @misty lily
wintry chasm
Find out more in main story
main halo
Also is there a way to make back all this gold I'm spending on riding this airship!
wintry chasm
Yes do the main story
dim ridge
@misty lily msq will put you to where you were at without a need to power level, generally. what level were you? and are you saying they were on another DATACENTER or another server? because for server, you can play with friends on other servers as long as they're on the same datacenter
misty lily
i was on spriggan but they were all on moogle
wintry chasm
Main story pays you more than what you could reasonably spend in fast traveling around
misty lily
so i made a new character for that server
main halo
There's not alot to spend gold on in this early part...least I haven't found one yet.
twilit arch
welp
misty lily
can he just help me fly thru msqs etc?
twilit arch
either way though, just focus on msq and ask your friends to help you with dungeons
main halo
I'm guessing dungeons are unlocked via the MAin Quest bits?
wintry chasm
Some
twilit arch
most of them are, yeah
but there are some optional dungeons that are unlocked via side quests 
dapper sage
Anybody could help me on a specific technical issue (DSR on FF XIV) ? Maybe I'm in the wrong chat 🙂
rare cedar
What is the best way to level with new friends if I've already completed early storylines? Dont they NEED the quests? I feel like I'd have to follow them around while they did their quests in order for them to make progression, but I would be kind of bored >_<
wintry chasm
Well once they get out of ARR I guess you could use new game + so you can do the quests with them
It won't solve the level problem but it'd sort out the questing one
rare cedar
Okay, when do they get out of ARR? Around heavensward?
wintry chasm
That is the first expansion so yes
dim ridge
your friends don't need to do every sidequest ever, they just really need to do main story
same with you
rare cedar
And main story is tracked
dim ridge
leveling outside main story is usually 1) leveling roulette and 2) palace of the dead
main halo
Question, does this game ever let you make any choices about how your character reacts to stuff? My character feels like an opinionless weirdo!
wintry chasm
Yes
dim ridge
yes you get more stuff later on in regards to choices in dialog
rare cedar
So I'd just accompany them for their main story and do FATEs at the same time
dim ridge
wow i said that weird
wintry chasm
ARR doesn't have a lot of it
dim ridge
basically how we did it, Chezy!
rare cedar
Okay thanks =)
dim ridge
it's not GREAT but aside from rollin a character to do the early msq with them, or you doing new game + to replay the early stuff with them.... I mean you can't go into story instances with them like you can in gw2, unfortunately
so it's just doing them ADJACENT as a rule of thumb outside open world things and dungeons
rare cedar
Do new classes start off at higher lvl?
dim ridge
only the expansion ones
rare cedar
Cuz I could make a new char up to that point
wintry chasm
And they depend on what expansion job it is
rare cedar
I'm thinking gunblade
rare cedar
I have a lvl 70
dim ridge
and hw at 30!
rare cedar
I'll just sit back and pocket heal while my friends quest if they play
Lol
I'm on Faerie
languid zinc
Isn't it like, Heavensward content from 50 lv?
main halo
AHAHAHA! Royalty free pottery smashing sound as this onion boi tosses it off a cliif XD
Wow this game has tiny moments of funny that're just great.
dim ridge
technically, cripzore
languid zinc
i'm using kind of guide to not forget what to unlock while leveling my first char and it goes like 1-50 ARR
50-60 Heavensward
60-70 Storm Blood and 70-80 for ShB
dim ridge
but considering there's 100 quests between the end of 2.0 and 3.0, which is when heavensward starts....
you're gonna be above 50 when you get to heavensward most likely
languid zinc
main halo
Are you maxed at 50 if you don't buy the expansions?
warped nest
Yeah
main halo
Huh, I onlyh ave the Starter thing.
languid zinc
gladly, buying ShB complete edition for 20€ gives you access to everything
dim ridge
then you'd be capped to 50 for now
warped nest
Early post game are doing epilogue for ARR so it is very eh eh
2.2-2.3 start to go into prologue for HW
main halo
I'm not even Level 20 yet, so I've got time to make a decision.
warped nest
You can even buy expansion once you have finished all ARR post-game MSQ
You ain't losing that many exp tbh
main halo
I imagine if it's hours of stuff that I need to get through anyway, no need to buy it all right this second.
warped nest
You can still use roulette on jobs lower than lvl 50
wintry chasm
I really wouldn't recommend it Chronos
warped nest
I am talking about 2.X MSQ
wintry chasm
That's begging for lvl gating main story in HW
warped nest
Ideally, you want to get expansion right as you hit lvl 50
wintry chasm
Unless they are on a preferred server I guess
main halo
I only see Shadowbringers on Steam, but not any of the others.
wintry chasm
Shadowbringers is all of it
warped nest
Shadowbringers includes previous expansions
wintry chasm
^ For "free"
warped nest
If someone is on the fence about committing to getting expansion, they can still stick with ARR until the very end, at the cost of missing out some lvl50+ exp
main halo
But I only -need- the expansions as they come out.
warped nest
They don't overcharge
Expansion always priced at 40
When we get to 6.0 in next year ish
It will automatically include Shadowbringers, Stormblood, and Heavensward
At the same price as Shadowbringers is right now
heady tinsel
halp i cant find, Ifrit Breaths, We Can Kill it
and i've looked everywhere for that quest
Revenants Toll twice and Rising Sands 4 times
Thancred is being a little shit and not coughing up the quest
twilit arch
did you talk to minfillia first in the waking sands
warped nest
Have you done The Recurring Problem
warped nest
Have fun
heady tinsel
also where can i find the quest that will give me a retainer for my class?
main halo
Wait, that reminds me. If the main quest gets me to 50, couldn't I switch to a different job and play that one to 50 again, and how would I even do that?
twilit arch
"An Ill-conceived venture" can be picked up in any of the 3 starting cities
warped nest
You use daily roulette, dungeons, etc to level other jobs to catch up
main halo
Do you get a bonus to xp or do you need to grind ou the same amount?
heady tinsel
Kael were you talking to me?
twilit arch
yes, fries
warped nest
!faq armoryexp
heady tinsel
okay cool
zinc orbitBOT
heady tinsel
thanks
warped nest
!faq armouryexp
zinc orbitBOT
zinc orbitBOT
pastel crow
Hey, brand new to FF14. So, after watching way to many youtube videos, I"m kind of liking what Red/Black Mage looks like. Is there a specific class/race path you should take while leveling? Or does that not really matter at all?
warped nest
It matters for the first 5 level
main halo
Oooh, so you can only level other Disciples or War or Magic, so I could only level...like an Arcanist?
twilit arch
race is pretty insignificant, so just play whatever race looks coolest to you @pastel crow
warped nest
Daffy, race stat become insignificant very quickly
stark sleet
Black Mage begins as Thaumaturge, and can change to Black Mage at level 30, after doing your class quests up until then. Red Mage doesn't have any sort of earlier class, but you need to reach level 50 on any class to unlock the quest that gives you it.
warped nest
You need to own expansion too
And have a lvl 50 combat job (any is fine) to start the red Mage unlock quest
pastel crow
So I'm still in the trial version atm, feeling out the game, if I'm intereseted in Black Mage then I should probably dabble in that first since I can use it with the trial version?
main halo
IDk what the hell Scathe is, but I know it now!
warped nest
Yes
After you finish your lvl 10 class quest, feel free to register with other guilds to try out other jobs
main halo
Woah, I have a shield as a casteR? That's weird.
twilit arch
stops being a thing after 50
warped nest
It is just a lil something
twilit arch
1.0/ARR was a weird time
wintry chasm
^
main halo
Weird that the game has changed nothing about it's initial experience, hm?
wintry chasm
They refine a lot of stuff at level 50 onwards
warped nest
ARR used to make you level a secondary class to lvl 15 to unlock a job for your primary lvl 30 class
wintry chasm
Well to change it would mean ripping and redoing a lot of the base game gear and stuff
That's a lot of effort for no real reason
warped nest
They are however changing the epilogue for ARR + prologue for Heavensward
To speed up the pacing
The rest, like what Calisae said, doesn't really have a good reason to be changed
warped nest
That's fair
zinc orbitBOT
pastel crow
Random question lol, so, my buddies all play on a server that's currently locked. If I start leveling on a different server can I transfer my character once teh other one becomes unlocked? Is it pay based or is it not possible at all?
faint flare
You can...you can world visit for free (assuming you're on the same data centre) to play with them for now...just wont be in the same fc or share a house
Home transfer costs money on Mogstation
pastel crow
Oh okay, yeah, I intend to like raid with them and do everything end game with them, so I'll just have to wait for the server to open up
faint flare
You can do that without being on the same server
pastel crow
Oh
faint flare
As long as you're in the same data centrez you can play together
World visit to do story together
And duty finder works across servers in your data centre
Again, only thing you cant do is be in the same FC or share a house which....doesn't matter much
pastel crow
Can you trade items and currency with people that are just world visiting?
pastel crow
And Houses are like, guilds from WoW?
warped nest
Houses are actual home you can own
leaden ginkgo
I came from eso cause the combat isnt great imo and someone recommend me this game. I read somewhere though that the lvling process is slow..but to stick to msq ( even tho idk what that term means). My questions are #1 is there good story in this game like side quests/exploration or is it mostly fetch quests? #2 What type of missions should i be focusing onto lvl #4 what class do you guys recommend thats fun and op? Im trying the trial rn @rose eagle tagged you cause u responded in mainchat i guess
faint flare
Free companies are guilds
wintry chasm
Free Companies are server based
pastel crow
Oooo okay
warped nest
Msq is main scenario quest, your main story
leaden ginkgo
hm ok
wintry chasm
@pastel crow what world are they?
pastel crow
Leviathan
warped nest
Side quests 
are usually for fun and lore stuff, they can be either fetch quests or some basic combat quests.
They are optional so you can skip them and do only the one that interest you
leaden ginkgo
dam so theres no cool side storys at all?
wintry chasm
There are
warped nest
There are
wintry chasm
All the raids have good stories
leaden ginkgo
o ok
wintry chasm
Some other sidequest chains are good too
faint flare
There's multiple
leaden ginkgo
i heard someone say theres too much. How would i know if its good to do
which ones to do*
multiple chains alright
warped nest
There is even a whole side quest line on the comedic adventure of a detective which is very popular
leaden ginkgo
ok
faint flare
Its your time
leaden ginkgo
yeah but i heard a reddit post saying the lvl process is so slow that it becomes tedious
warped nest
what type of mission should I focus on
faint flare
Its not realllly
wintry chasm
@pastel crow Leviathan isn't congested so if you just wait for a quieter time of the day you can join no problem
leaden ginkgo
msq ok
faint flare
Story takens yoy through more or less
warped nest
Just a heads up, treat this game as a single player RPG game with co-op dungeon
rose eagle
@leaden ginkgo MSQ stands for Main Scenario Quest, which are the quests with the Flame, this will get you through MOST of your leveling. This game is 100% story driven, it's great. I suggest reading story like no tomorrow. Types of missions vary on what peaks your interest, honestly try a bit of everything early on, also don't judge a class/job by its 1-60 they pick up after 60. Nothing is OP and everything is decently balanced within I'd say 10% - 20% diff at the worst but even someone playing a bad class can be just as good as what's considered "good" cause even good classes mess up their rotations from time to time.
faint flare
You'll overlevel everything
wintry chasm
@leaden ginkgo Just do go through all your questions
- we said but there are a bunch, all the raids are good and some other sidequest ones are all highly recommended, the rest are I guess up to what you like and don't like
- main story
- (I think you missed 3) no class is OP
warped nest
With coop dungeons
leaden ginkgo
is it not multiplayer open world? or you mean most high lvls are somewhere else on the map or you mean its solo alot?
leaden ginkgo
ty guys
faint flare
Cause story is solo
wintry chasm
as in the story doesn't require you to have other players
leaden ginkgo
oh ok
wintry chasm
and there are a number of solo instances in story too
faint flare
Mostly until dungeons pop up
wintry chasm
^
Dungeons and trials are the only times you have to play with other people in story
warped nest
Combat jobs in XIV are surprisingly well balanced, you can pick a job by coolness factor. Btw, you can play all jobs with 1 character
rose eagle
Also so you're aware the Trial goes until lvl 35 so you do a few dungeons at least
leaden ginkgo
whats a job? thats like a class?
rose eagle
and you can level EVERYTHING to 35
faint flare
Other 10 percent is dungeons and instances
leaden ginkgo
ah ok
rose eagle
Jobs are the upgrades to classes
wintry chasm
It's complicated and I don't want to confuse you
leaden ginkgo
hmm ok
rose eagle
essentially
wintry chasm
Kinda yeah
warped nest
In most context/discussions, class and jobs can be used interchangeably
wintry chasm
A job is an evolution of the class
rose eagle
Classes need to just be removed honestly, it's a dead and bad system
wintry chasm
It's a good system
faint flare
Trueeee
leaden ginkgo
so in summary focus on msq and do the side quests that i want?
wintry chasm
I don't mind it
warped nest
Yes, Fen
wintry chasm
but it does confuse new people
leaden ginkgo
ok sweet
rose eagle
You may not mind it, but as you saying it's complicated already means it's too much
faint flare
Focus story and do your job quests every few levels for skills
rose eagle
xD
warped nest
gates most if not all contents
rose eagle
yes it is
leaden ginkgo
dam it
rose eagle
Trial is very limited
warped nest
The level cap is 80
faint flare
The main scenario tracker tells you what yoyr Current msq and job quest is
wintry chasm
Generally it's do main story and also the side quests since those quests with that icon unlock stuff whether it be system things, optional dungeons and trials, raids, etc etc @leaden ginkgo
warped nest
Trials bring you up to 35
leaden ginkgo
ok got it
wintry chasm
Socially the free trial is very restrictive
obsidian patio
!faq triallimits
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
Job start at lvl 30, so you only experience 5 levels of a job
leaden ginkgo
ok sweet
rose eagle
The means you can unlock something by doing it
and is generally side quests
Sometimes you don't get what it is after the 1st blue, sometimes it's a chain
leaden ginkgo
ok
leaden ginkgo
and story wise i dont have to buy previous expansions to unlock them all?
oh nvm its a subscription
wintry chasm
Newest one always come with all the previous ones for free Fen
warped nest
Current expansion includes all previous expansions
leaden ginkgo
sweet
warped nest
At the same price
rose eagle
This is a sub game but if you buy the "Core Game" you only need to buy the latest Xpac
warped nest
You don't need to pay for previous expansions
leaden ginkgo
ah gotcha
rose eagle
I say core game because there is a STARTER Edition which is only 1-50 base game
pastel crow
So with world visit you can't do current raid content or trade currency, did I read that correctly?
warped nest
Complete Edition is Starter + Current Expansion (which includes all previous expansions)
You can buy Starter first, then Current Expansion later. Or buy Complete in one go. Same cost either way
leaden ginkgo
there being 1-60 classes/job it doesnt make u guys fee indecisive?
wintry chasm
world visit you can pretty much do everything except sell items on their marketboard, join free companies on their servers and marry across servers
rose eagle
Nah @warped nest incorrect cause starter is ARR only, there is another edition that has ARR + HW & SB
faint flare
You can trade items and do all content
wintry chasm
1-80 Fen
warped nest
That no longer exist
leaden ginkgo
oh
wintry chasm
What are you on about Chronos?
rose eagle
It still exists in some places that sell keys sadly
wintry chasm
Oh
leaden ginkgo
sweet ty
rose eagle
which is why it needs to be mentioned
wintry chasm
Yeah but don't buy them
warped nest
You mean that, yeah
What Calisae said
Seriously when it comes to XIV don't get it from key resellers
Not even Humble Bundle
leaden ginkgo
not to be redundant tho but if i pick a mage class right now - i have to wait till im a higher lvl to change to another class?
wintry chasm
but that's it
leaden ginkgo
0161
rose eagle
16 if you want to go to the other cities isnt it?
pastel crow
What would be the initial cost to fully buy into the game? In USD, like have everything.
wintry chasm
the main story that takes you to the other cities is level 15
warped nest
60
rose eagle
^that one
faint flare
Usually 60 dollars but there's sales currently
wintry chasm
^ whatever it is in dollars
rose eagle
Sale is good rn
wintry chasm
Also what Vinyl said
main halo
This game gave me a tiny puppy?! It's the best.
warped nest
Really need to emphasize again, don't buy the old complete edition from key seller
wintry chasm
||kill it|| Yelgi
proud willow
warped nest
You want the one from Steam or PSN or SE, with Starter + Shadowbringers
leaden ginkgo
oh on sale nice
rose eagle
Although a note if you go Steam
STEAM RARELY goes on sale
and if you buy on steam
you can only buy on steam
leaden ginkgo
did you guys try the trial first or did you buy the base game right away
warped nest
Base game, cuz my friend made me
rose eagle
kind of
pastel crow
So https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/564956/final-fantasy-xiv-online-complete-edition-pc-download would give me EVERYTHING
leaden ginkgo
o
pastel crow
Sorry if links weren't allowed
rose eagle
Yes you get everything
wintry chasm
Links are
rose eagle
through Complete
leaden ginkgo
Chronos what aspects do u like mostly
rose eagle
Complete is the best value period
wintry chasm
so long as they aren't you know, obviously bad Daffy
proud willow
@pastel crow yes (though you wouldn't get the cosmetic items that come with the Collector's Edition)
rose eagle
You also get 1 month free with purchase
wintry chasm
Who cares about collector's edition Hiten?
rose eagle
So unlock it once you are satisfied with your trial
leaden ginkgo
How long do you reckon itll take me to lvl if i was jus doing main and side quests?
wintry chasm
you can digitally upgrade anyway
proud willow
I dunno, he said EVERYTHING in all caps so I just wanted to be totally clear
wintry chasm
However long it takes you to read @leaden ginkgo
leaden ginkgo
hm will do lae
proud willow
there is another edition that gives all expansions plus cosmetics
rose eagle
You can hit 1-35 in maybe
proud willow
but they don't matter
leaden ginkgo
ah true i forgot theres not alot of voice acting eh
rose eagle
6-7 hours? If you steam roll it
but if you get lost in the game
longer
there is hundreds of hours
wintry chasm
You can do that in an afternoon if you steam roll it Lae
main halo
IS there a /played to check?
rose eagle
of content
leaden ginkgo
how do i avoid getting lost..o.O
rose eagle
Ummm check your map and if you're really lost
wintry chasm
You can do /playtime to see amount of time played on that character
rose eagle
Youll get use to it
warped nest
Chronos what aspects do u like mostly
Combat jobs aren't simple spam 1 button, crafting to self supply gear (optional), cool looking weapons, female armors are not always sexy (yes this is a plus for me), I enjoy the mechanical dance for raids and trials
wintry chasm
Yeah honestly Fen the answer is just "use the map"
leaden ginkgo
cool
leaden ginkgo
laehrun how long is that complete sale on for
rose eagle
until 04/22
warped nest
@leaden ginkgo my answer is up there
main halo
I've played 11 hours, 20 minutes. First character to level 18.
rose eagle
As stated above
leaden ginkgo
ty chrono
rose eagle
You have plenty of time to buy it
wintry chasm
22/04
leaden ginkgo
alright sweet ty
rose eagle
Theyre in NA hence my date structure :P
wintry chasm
I don't use stupid NA dates
leaden ginkgo
:p
warped nest
I am for YYYY-MM-DD
rose eagle
the top one there is only the Expansion and it's collectors edition the bottom is the full game without collectors bonuses
storm jay
so
rose eagle
You need base game with the top one
storm jay
does the full game version include the new races?
mossy current
If new, get the complete edition
Which has everything you need to play all content the game offers
storm jay
Hmm I see
rose eagle
So if you buy the base game and the expansion you have all races or you buy the complete version which is the entire game you have all races
the collectors editions just mean
you get glamors
mossy current
The mount too?
rose eagle
which are items that look pretty
yes a mount too
Mounts are all equal so its not an advantage
just another cosmetic
mossy current
True
storm jay
wait what are the glamors?
warped nest
Transmog
mossy current
cool/cute looking gear
rose eagle
Glamor is the FFXIV word for Transmog
mossy current
That you can apply into other gear
warped nest
You make a gear look like other gears
mossy current
^
warped nest
Layered Armor if you are from Monster Hunter World
storm jay
hmmm...
wintry chasm
We tend to call low level no stat gear "glamour items" because that's their purpose but ya know, everything can be used as glamours so it's kinda misleading imo
rose eagle
yes
wintry chasm
Well yeah
wintry chasm
You can use any piece of gear in game
storm jay
hmm, but would they be really difficult to get like some mmos?
wintry chasm
Eto
You can use, any piece of gear
There aren't like, specific outfits you have to collect for glamour and it's an apply all thing
rose eagle
Some have rare drop rates yes, that is correct but those are mostly only items that you need to grind a lot for or are from Palace of the Dead/Heaven on High
wintry chasm
there are sets but you don't have to use all the pieces of it
rose eagle
Other than that Costumes and stuff are really accessible to everyone
storm jay
I see
rose eagle
and I mean REALLY accessible
wintry chasm
and yeah because you can use every single piece of gear as glamour it's hard to say if they are easy or hard to get because not every gear is hard or easy to get
storm jay
how do you find them tho?
wintry chasm
How do you find any piece of gear?
That's a silly question
Again you're asking how you find any piece of gear in the game
mint shale
you play the game, you buy from market board, you do dungeons, you craft
wintry chasm
Which the answer is basically yeah
play the game
get it from literally everywhere
If you want to ask how you get stuff you need to be specific
mint shale
There's no "Oh all your basic gear are ugly as sin, you want cool looking armor? Grind for it, pay us money" here
except relic weapons i guess
rose eagle
I own maybe 70% of the items related to my job in game which is Gunbreaker and I have only been playing on this character for a month
mossy current
GNB doesn't have much for weapons though
rose eagle
yeah weapon wise not much but cause it shares clothing
mossy current
Yea
rose eagle
I think I own 90% of the all class glams tho
mossy current
Fending gear is cool
slate arrow
The only outfits you have to buy with cash nowdays are character specific outfits (lightning, tidus), overseas stuff (Korea and China outfits) and previous years event outfits
rose eagle
Cause All class stuff is easy
wintry chasm
a-among other stuff Industrial
slate arrow
I can't think of anything that lies outside of those three catagories
rose eagle
I am sad that I missed the Valentines outfit ;-;
slate arrow
oh wait fanfest stuff
wintry chasm
Edda gear and stuff
slate arrow
cloud bike is fanfest
rose eagle
I know cause the only reason I bought the fanfest package
was for it
xP
and that's technically character specific
leaden ginkgo
right
slate arrow
no
rose eagle
Then there are worlds
leaden ginkgo
yes i meant to say worlds
slate arrow
worlds are servers
rose eagle
World only matters if you wanna see friends regularly
slate arrow
Aether/Primal/Crystal are datacenters
leaden ginkgo
oh ok
slate arrow
you can play with anyone in the same datacenter with very few restrictions
leaden ginkgo
oh sweet
rose eagle
Yeah
slate arrow
but you can't go across datacenters without paying for the home world transfer service
rose eagle
Also btw I see you marked crystal I suggest dont go crystal unless you're into RP
other than that
whatever floats your boat
slate arrow
Yeah if you're considering raiding stick to aether or primal
leaden ginkgo
oh ok good to know
granite dust
does doing alexander normal gives aether light on anima weapons?
leaden ginkgo
thats what i was worreid about olol
So is there a new glowing version of the weathered shadowbringer?
main halo
So how does Transmog/Glamour work really? If I have a set or item I like the look of, I can make it what I have in that slot permanently?
slate arrow
no
slate arrow
They skipped it this time
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
depresso
lime sphinx
ok so am i missing something or what, lvl 50 quests from dlc are like 1% xp bar quests for like 3 hours now, its just run and talk
wtf
lime sphinx
oh no
wintry chasm
And yes they give bad exp because they used to give no xp
so you don't, you know, hit level 80 by the time you hit the first expansion
lime sphinx
oh my god, so i've been doing useless content lol
wintry chasm
It's just the stuff between the original launch and the first expansion
wintry chasm
@leaden ginkgo Then I'd pick a preferred server
main halo
Oh wow, I can cast glamours of any items in my inventory or armory, that's awesome.
leaden ginkgo
Those are the ones with a *?
wintry chasm
Double xp from everything and then doubling any xp boosting effects you have on top is pretty disgusting
Yes they have a star by their name in character creation
leaden ginkgo
Ok sweet
wintry chasm
If you go to an innroom in one of the cities in the bar/adventurer guild you can find the glamour dresser but they are a bit hard to explain in text so I kinda recommend you tinker with it and then ask about it
but basically you can make your own "glamour outfits"
and make it easier to swap out those outfits
wintry chasm
and it's also just a really good storage for any gear you want to keep for appearance without cluttering your inventory
lime sphinx
you can ''destroy'' and item and save it into the dresser
lime sphinx
even after they are turned into glamour?
wintry chasm
mhm
lime sphinx
dresser ik u can get back tho
mint shale
you can get back anything you put into the dresser or armoire
main halo
What's the difference between the mirror and the armoire?
lime sphinx
and btw @wintry chasm , i've been hanging around since this morning, and i'd like to thank you for all the help and tips you provide to everybody 
ornate gale
should I keep using ironworks gear and upgrade it throughout heavensward or will there be better equipment available?
mint shale
you can only upgrade ironworks to augmented version, and it wont take long to do it
faint flare
Ironworks falls off at 53/55
ornate gale
ok thanks
mint shale
once you start doing lvl53-55 MSQ , you will start getting better armor from quests
rose eagle
@lime sphinx Yeah, before you reach Heavensward you do what is call the Seventh Astral Era Quest line, which just gives inebtween Expansion content. People were level 50 at this point and couldnt progress higher, so the XP is meh, but the dungeons/trials really help you with not getting level locked in the next Xpac
lime sphinx
i have road to 70 tho, so level wouldn't really matter in my case, but i understand for most players without x2 xp its a good thing
mint shale
Fun fact, if you level your retainers and remember to send them out for ventures, you may end up with gears at your level. My retainers are giving me stuff from Shadowbringers even though I'm still in post Heavensward :v
lime sphinx
and they can't just delete a part of the story after dlc comes out lol
mint shale
They are the real Warriors of Light, I'm just a retainer getting hand me downs
rose eagle
Nah it's important to the Plot
wintry chasm
^
rose eagle
Although note for you which is a bit sad is, That part of the game IS currently being reworked to be shorter
lime sphinx
yeye, that's why they dont delete even if it's kind of a ''dead zone'' in terms of xp
midnight slate
So your telling me I played the wonky ARR
And they’re about to rework it
wintry chasm
I'm going to bed now and people have bad opinions about ARR so just to tack on to what Lae said so no one else can say otherwise the ARR story is good but it does suffer some pretty wonky pacing towards the end of the base game plot and the patch stuff
obsidian patio
Not until 5.3 which isn’t for another 4-5 months or so
wintry chasm
I guess Yuel but that doesn't make it bad
midnight slate
@wintry chasm perfect
obsidian patio
Sorry, getting my time messed up
wintry chasm
Not even 4
rose eagle
Yeah they are reworking it to be shorter, they've realized it's too long after lots of feedback from the community
midnight slate
Now when I see newbies playing the good ARR
I can be like “y’know back in my day”
wintry chasm
isn't it going to be like, 2 assuming the main story changes aren't a X.35 patch?
rose eagle
But IF you've made it through ARR, you're pretty much good to go
wintry chasm
|| on both sides for spoiler tags
lime sphinx
how long is it ?
rose eagle
It's suppose to be .3 if they can make it on time, but they said it's likely .35
wintry chasm
literally two of them on both sides
lime sphinx
h |hey|
wintry chasm
Two on each side
rose eagle
|yes|
lime sphinx
lmnao
wintry chasm
||hi||
lime sphinx
i'm retarded
rose eagle
||yes||
lime sphinx
hey ||I'm retarded||
zinc orbitBOT
wintry chasm
Listen it sounds worse than it is but it's 100 quests
lime sphinx
yea i mean most of them are like 2 dialogues
rose eagle
Yeah its 100 quests, most of which are easy to run through as most of them are go here and there
wintry chasm
It just sounds way worse than it is
lime sphinx
yeah and i go see my retainers here and there, talk with some friends on discord
so it's gucci
nimble holly
is there a mount for the new ex trial?
wintry chasm
No
nimble holly
RIP
faint flare
With 5 slots
wintry chasm
Good luck with that
lime sphinx
cause i know the blue quests unlock things
wintry chasm
what is not important
For example I'd say the Heavensward retrospective quest is a must do just before you start Stormblood but it's completely optional and probably the most well hidden questline in the game
main halo
Huh, so expressions only last like five seconds, awww.
lime sphinx
i just wanna do the ones unlocking dungs/trials/features
obsidian patio
!faq contentunlock
faint flare
Thats why you gpose and freeze frameee
zinc orbitBOT
lime sphinx
Night !
faint flare
Sleep does sound like a responsible thing
lime sphinx
oh thats a nice faq, hell yeah just what i was looking for, thanks
pastel crow
Well fam, I bit the bullet, friend helped me buy the complete game 😄
lime sphinx
Welcome !
pastel crow
But this little swirling icon with "Thank you for visiting our site. Your order is now being processed." is making me a little uneasy lol
lime sphinx
are you on steam or bought on website ?
obsidian patio
If you literally just bought it the order needs to be processed
signal garnet
Where do I go to trade in my poetics for gil
its getting kinda annoying doing dungeons and seeing that im full on them
I dont need anymore gear at the moment either
obsidian patio
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
Compare the cost of Thanalan topsoil vs Shroud topsoil vs 6 Demicrystals (3,000 Gil)
signal garnet
I just needed to know where because im in mor dhona and Im not sure what to buy
obsidian patio
Ah Mor Dhona, if you don’t have access to Idyllshire there’s not many options then
barren holly
obligatory "where are new relic wepon quests"
obsidian patio
You can turn in the ironworks gear in for seals at your grand company if you’re at sergeant 2nd class
Kugane
barren holly
ty
pastel crow
Once my order is processed, it'll show up under My Collection?
leaden ginkgo
I know fun is subjective but in your opinion, which tank has the funnest dps rotation? I tried DRK but the animation and kit is too clunky for me . Thinking of going GNb
pastel crow
Okay, so. I have my activation key, but I'm not seeing where to put it in the instructions if I've already downloaded the client.
pastel crow
Oh okay, TY!
proper junco
what does the new trial extreme drop?
faint flare
Coffers for dyeable af gear
rose eagle
the i430 relic armor but at i480 and dyeable
proper junco
the lv 80 one?
pastel crow
9 Hours and I'll be in game 😄 WOO, excited haha
rough canopy
what is the blue cross covering gear icons? also what is the green+blue bars next to the icon?
oak ice
The shift indicator?
rough canopy
No clue lol, when some of my gear has like a filled in cross or a empty one
oak ice
No, wait, gear icons
rough canopy
Then I see a partially filled blue bar next to green bar
oak ice
The green and blue bars are the spiritbond and conditions
rough canopy
Oh thank you, spirit bond ill google
oak ice
The cross is that it's glammed
rough canopy
Why is one cross red and clear, and other blue and filled
oak ice
That I'm not entirely certain of, did you dye something blue before glamming it?
proper junco
is there i495 weapons trial for this patch
oak ice
Nope
rose eagle
no
rough canopy
maybe lol
oh the blue dot is the color of the item
Another one, how do you gain ranks in the grand company?
oak ice
Go to one of the NPCs there and trade grand company seals for promotions
Up to a certain point
rough canopy
How do you get seals and thank you!
I can google no worries such newbie question I know, lol
oak ice
Fastest way is probably to spam leveling roulettes as adventurer in need
rough canopy
oooh ok never done those nice!!
oak ice
But then you also have the grand company hunting log for a nice chunk
rough canopy
oh ok been doing those, like pokedex for me
oak ice
After a while you can trade in green and pink and blue gear to them for more, which will be the then best way
rough canopy
Ok sweet
oak ice
The colored backgrounds, not dyed gear*
rough canopy
k your awesome ty, where u from wiht name like that
final sandal
how do i get the new dyeable 80 gear
slate arrow
do the relic weapon quest, and then farm the EX trial
final sandal
ok ty
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
roulettes > 50/60/70 trial spam > highest poetics dungeon (Aetheroical Research Facility, that one stormblood battlefield dungeon)
dry flame
anything outside of roulettes
slate arrow
50/60/70 trial spam (MSQ ones) for new player bonus
or highest poetics dungeon
(except castrum and praetorium)
slate arrow
firmamnent is primarily to turn in your crafted ishgard collectibles or to head to the diadem as a gatherer
chilly birch
So i can craft anything or certain things
thick pagoda
is there an lfg channel>
slate arrow
though if you're LFG
just use party finder
@chilly birch well you have to buy the materials or gather them yourself
thick pagoda
ah, oki dokie
chilly birch
Ok
And it can boost my crafting no matter what level?
🤔
Ohhh
Only recommended when your craft level is 20 or above
slate arrow
some current quests are in the crystarium
turbid cobalt
Hey guys, quick question. Can I purchase the Flame Elite's Loincloth (purchasable for 1k Allied Seals at the Hunt Billmaster) if I'm with the Twin Adders? It's not sold by the Flame guy, so I was hoping I could get it :)
chilly birch
@thick pagoda #not-ffxiv-discussion or #video-games-general
obsidian patio
No RMT please. :/
turbid cobalt
@obsidian patio He's not talking about RMT?
thick pagoda
@chilly birch ???
obsidian patio
Apologies, but the questions could’ve been better worded.
thick pagoda
me?
turbid cobalt
@obsidian patio He was asking how much 1 gold piece was in terms of gils, not much to be confused about there xD
warped nest
Answering that question, the maximum cost of teleportation is 999 gils
So you genuinely don't need a lot to get by unless you want to buy fashion gear from Marketboard (player market)
thick pagoda
yeah, like how much is 1 gil equal to 1 gold in wow. sorry couldve been better worded was adressing to wow people
turbid cobalt
1gil is like 1 copper piece, basically
I mean not really, but heh
thick pagoda
also whats RMT?
warped nest
Generally teleport fee is around 200-300 gils, 999 is the max
turbid cobalt
It's not the same economy
warped nest
Real Money Trade
obsidian patio
@turbid cobalt you can only get that grand companies gear from that grand company.
turbid cobalt
@obsidian patio Aww, alright :(
Thanks
obsidian patio
The elite stuff comes from the hunt billmaster by the hunting board
obsidian patio
Beast tribe mounts are 125k-200k Gil
warped nest
MSQ will definitely yield you more than 1 min gil
obsidian patio
Which are pretty much the only mounts with a direct Gil price
warped nest
Don't forget the gils from daily roulette and weekly challenge log
I have not familiar with how gold/copper work in Wow, but in XIV, Gil are plentiful for most players
thick pagoda
how cool are ff14 mounts? is there flying?
whole wasp
every mount flies
leaden ginkgo
Most* mounts fly
whole wasp
they patched that yup.
leaden ginkgo
Oh my bad
whole wasp
NP. 🙂
leaden ginkgo
Damn I wish I'd known sooner lol
I have them all but never used them because I thought they still didn't fly 😩
obsidian patio
They all do now
warped nest
Cool
celest bison
anyone knows whats the button to press Virl in Primal beast Emanation trial on ps4 controller?
obsidian patio
R2+R3 or L2+R3
median nebula
you know how you are clicking through dialogue and a duty finder window pops up but because you were clicking thorugh dialogue your click just hides the dutyfinder window instead? How do you bring the duty finder window back up?
whole wasp
press u on keyboard
median nebula
thanks
whole wasp
you can also find it in the bottom right of the scren. click the exclamation mark or duty
celest bison
welp im going in my first run, wish me good luck. ty tho @obsidian patio
also, when should I use virl? the guide is confusing for me and not well explained. from my understanding, im supposed to use virl before her Ult and before her Divine action , right? @obsidian patio
warped nest
Yes
celest bison
ok i guess thats all. thak you
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
What's the difference between the regular rabbit suit and the dapper suit?
little swift
a bow is on the dapper one
iirc
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/A_Home_in_the_Firmament
i'm trying to find this quest because its chain has an achievement on it but i can't find the npc associated with it. Is this quest even available?
boreal monolith
So it's the 1st phase of the relic weapon better than the ruby weapon now?
slate arrow
yes
boreal monolith
ty, yea it was kinda obvious because of the 5 free melds
obsidian patio
@little swift that quest appears for your server once they finish all current construction
little swift
ah so we're not there yet got it
zinc orbitBOT