i guess there's only 3 DoL so it's not that big a deal
#questions-and-help
barren holly
vapid belfry
there is a nice easy way
of handing in your grand company supply and provisions
its not ultra fast, since its daily
but it takes the least time
DoL leves are ultra easy
besides fish
quartz shale
least time each day rather, but one of the longer methods of leveling
the whole "which do you have more of" scenario
zinc orbitBOT
static yacht
where do you buy fieldcraft demi materia
for 2000 gil?
I only ever saw it on market board
obsidian patio
It comes from desynthesis
obsidian patio
That’s they price they sell to NPCs
obsidian patio
Yeah that looks badly worded
manic oasis
so theres a new tomestone?
static yacht
yes
manic oasis
what will it be used for?
twilit arch
lvl 80
brain fart, it'll be used for the current highest tier of end-game gear
so right now its goetia and phantasmagoria, with the patch phantasmagoria will move down to take goetia's place as the uncapped tomestones
and allegory will become the new capped tomestone
fickle copper
anyone know when the update ends?
fresh lodge
!maint
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
nimble holly
this might be a REALLY dumb question, is the splendors exchange just the collectible appraiser?
twilit arch
yeah, basically. plus the splendors vendor who sells the items you can purchase with yellow/white scrips
fickle copper
anyone know if SMN is worth picking up in 5.2?
manic oasis
id say no, seems like rdm is the new hot caster
fickle copper
ah dang
just played dmc 5 and loved how V played so I hoped SMN was good here
:/
hoary storm
SMN is still right up there
green grail
every job is worth playing, 5 potency nerf to dots is extremely tiny
twilit arch
the nerf to smn wasn't really that significant
shy vessel
fickle copper
blesssss
twilit arch
it just dialed it down a bit, it didn't kneecap the class
nimble holly
when are servers coming back?
manic oasis
is there to set the camera in one position vertically but able to use mouse to change camera horizontally? in legacy mode
static yacht
Will we be able to download the patch before servers are up?
fresh lodge
Yes
vocal spoke
frank wigeon
wheere in this discord can you see kupo bot saying maintenance is over? is it lodestone news?
twilit arch
he'll automatically post a message in #general-discussion
frank wigeon
cheers
fickle copper
glad to hear, do any of you enjoy SMN?
warped nest
It is fun
fickle copper
yay
warped nest
Pretty mobile, attacks look pretty and feel meaty
fickle copper
MOBILE
manic oasis
I do
fickle copper
yes, when I was trying BLM it was a bit painful
bc of the movement problem
not BLM but THM
warped nest
BLM gets more option at higher level
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
Triplecast, Xenogloss, thunder/fire proc from sharp cast, swift cast, and two abilities to move you: one to a party member, one to your leyline
hoary storm
You forgot the best one, Sliiide cast
dusty palm
Does the shadowbringer expansion include gametime? I randomly have 41 days, I thought standard edition only gave 30?
green grail
it doesn't, you get 15 days after reaching lvl 30 on a preferred world tho
dusty palm
Ah that explains it, thanks!
vapid belfry
people are saying the patch is up
how can i install it?
when i open the launcher my play button is just grey
twilit arch
its currently only available for download for ps4
vapid belfry
ah
twilit arch
ok well its available for download now for pc
close the launcher if you haven't, log in as normal and it should start downloading
gloomy ice
Servers are still down but the patch can be installed now.
vapid belfry
im getting that message too
twilit arch
Lots of people trying to download, so its bombing the servers
quasi hare
yeah i had to try 5 times or so till it worked for me
vapid belfry
im still trying
warped nest
Go and watch something on YouTube
Then come back
Maint not gonna finish sooner than scheduled
vapid belfry
i know but i wanna get the patch installin
quasi hare
Did they buff redmage this patch
hoary storm
gloomy ice
Slightly, yes. See above ^
vapid belfry
ok finally i got it
glad i kept on it cause its gonna take 3 hours from now
so i'll miss when maint ends anyway lul
manic oasis
wait is there a weakness debuff in all raids/dungeons/trials?
obsidian patio
the debuff from being raised? that's present everywhere, even outside of instanced content
zinc orbitBOT
sonic sapphire
Yesterday we already had preliminar 5.2 patchnotes, do we have the definitive ones already?
I recall smth about maint being a at 5 or so?
upbeat storm
What's the reason to help out with airship/sub if the rewards for it are claimed by a few select people?
What am I missing?
tawny canopy
how you distro sub/airship rewards is up to your leaders
fresh lodge
Its used to craft FC buffs
tawny canopy
its just you don't need to bother 3 other ppl to afk
sonic sapphire
Hmmm 
is it just me or the rdm and summoner changes doesn't look as big as they should be to balance both
leaden ginkgo
does anyone know where to buy the umbrella ? is it in game or is it obtained with real money?
sonic sapphire
Oh, well, conte sixte buff it's pretty good, but.. that's about it, i don't think it'll make the difference
fresh lodge
@leaden ginkgo We don't know, but it won't be with real money
leaden ginkgo
ok ty
sonic sapphire
How much time does it take (aprox) to level an alt from 30 to 50? spamming dungeons on finder and FATES on the meanwhile
manic oasis
id say a few hours in potd
sonic sapphire
Oh?
Is potd that fast?
I always thought it was slower, so I only did it till 50 to unlock weapons and such
I guess it'd be a good option
since its a dps so no instant dungeon queue
warped nest
they are only better if your dungeon queue is worse
hoary storm
If youre a healer/tank dungeons are prolly better
sonic sapphire
yeah, i'll probably
look for dungeons while doing job quests
then potd if it's slow
What floors should I do for potd?
1 to 50 and reset?
I think my friend told me at 50 you get a "checkpoint" and you can start from thre
so is 50 to 60 -> reset -> repeat possible?
warped nest
yes
once you hit a certain set, you will open up a short quest line outside
finish that and you will be able to make new save starting at floor 51
iirc, the set you need to finish is 51-60
obsidian patio
yep
zinc orbitBOT
frosty badger
New patch notes out?
leaden ginkgo
whats the drop rate of the blck pegasus whistle
obsidian patio
Nightmare? it hasn't ever been buffed since it came out so probably in the single digits
I wouldn't be surprised if it's like 1-2%
twilit arch
I'm pretty sure they mean the black pegasus from potd
manic oasis
and then after drop rate you have to roll the highest
sonic sapphire
Another mini question regarding that leveling thing, does roulette exp scale better the higher the level is? I'll dedicate full day to get bard to 50 so, should I do potd 51-60 till it's late, then roulette? Or first of all roulette, then potd
twilit arch
leveling roulette's exp scales based on the lvl difference between you and the dungeon
so if you're 50 and you get say the lvl 15 dungeon, the bonus is going to make up for the fact you're not getting that great of exp from the mobs themselves
sonic sapphire
So it doesn't really make any difference probably
twilit arch
yeah
manic oasis
do most people use legacy mode for camera?
hoary storm
I use legacy, its easier to move around
twilit arch
wynne means the changes between prelims and full patch notes
manic oasis
yeaa but i keep moving the camera angle vertically accidentally because of legacy lol
obsidian patio
yeah sorry, should've specified by changes
dusty palm
How do you enable legacy mode?
slate arrow
settings > control
rancid vector
Is there a way to fully change server
slate arrow
yes, Home World Transfer Service
rancid vector
We have a friend who wants to rejoin but very low odds he is on the se server
faint flare
Buy a server transfer from Mogstation
rancid vector
Thanks Indust, I'll go take a look :3
random warren
yeah you can server transfer between regions blice. So from NA to JP, JP to EU etc etc
rancid vector
Fab thanks for that
slate arrow
What's the command to toggle nameplates again or am I remembering wrong
hoary storm
Dont think theres a command, you have to go into char settings
twin kelp
Hi. What weapon is this?
slate arrow
I swear they added a macro command for that tho hrm
@twin kelp one of the Anima axes
whole wasp
I think i saw the nameplate thing in the patch notes.
zinc orbitBOT
slate arrow
found it, nvm
twin kelp
Thank you I found it.
twin kelp
Are thre still groups of people that do Eureka?
hoary storm
Yep theres even discords for it
hoary storm
Ohh sorry thats aether
twin kelp
oh unfort
hoary storm
junior copper
Hi I was thinking about returning, I haven't played since start of Stormblood lol does anyone think there will be a free login campaign soon?
jade quartz
There was a free login campaign relatively recently. It's unlikely there'll be one for some time.
twilit arch
there was one back in dec to mid jan, so probably not
slate arrow
you just missed it
vapid belfry
do we need to reopen our launcher when maint ends?
jade quartz
you need to refresh the login part
can do this by entering the server status tab and then returning
vapid belfry
thanks a ton
terse path
I hear Odin spawns like right after maint is that true or?
obsidian patio
Not quite.
It’s more the respawn timer for hunts and special fates like Odin and Ixion start over again when maintenance happens
(Can’t say for sure if they reset with emergency maintenances)
stable herald
Did I read that right? That the valentine suit can be worn by all? Gosh I hope the event is still on
jaunty jay
nope too late
whole wasp
I only remember seeing the wedding glamour. Not sure about valentine.
silver lintel
is there a guide on where to find leves that are for HW, SB, etc?
blissful lava
HW are Near the Aetheryte Area, SB are also in near the Aetheryte
silver lintel
any specific aetheryte?
blissful lava
The Main Big Ones
silver lintel
just the localized ones for that area?
twilit arch
the expansion leves are centralized
they're all going to be in ishgard for hw, kugane for sb, and crystarium for shb
blissful lava
You will find 2 or 3 NPC are together in one Stall
boreal monolith
so arent there any new folklore tomes?
silver lintel
what are large-scale leves?
twilit arch
no, the new nodes are simply added to the existing folklore tomes
large scale leves use 10x leve allowances and require a greater number of items to turn in
boreal monolith
ok thank you
twilit arch
but the experience is not that much better than the normal leve
silver lintel
so it's probably not worth it?
twilit arch
they're pretty good if you're short on time, but in general the single leve is better
silver lintel
is there a way to control auto-enabled skills?
sneak is auto enabled when i swap to miner but not when i swap to botanist
twilit arch
are you lvl 27 with the botanist?
silver lintel
uhh
twilit arch
and are you swapping while out in the field
azure turtle
anyone know how to fix unable to download patch files. 11003&10009&10019? I tried uninstall delete files in MyGames, still having issue
twilit arch
if you're swapping to botanist while in a city, then it won't enable sneak automatically
you have to switch while out in the field for the auto sneak to enable
silver lintel
if i swap to miner anywhere, it's enabled
if i enable it on botanist and swap to miner, it's enabled, swap back to botanist and it's disabled
swap to miner and it's enabled on miner
very weird
severe shoal
Sorry if this was asked already. Anyone figure out times for new gathering items?
twilit arch
Sounds like it might be a bung, cos i can switch between miner and bot and sneak is automatically enabled
but like i said, has to be out in the field
heady peak
Any way to make FFXIV window focus when a duty is found? I keep missing them
whole wasp
No but you can enable system sounds so you hear the system chime even when you're tabbed out.
torpid tangle
Any idea how to get the Parasol?
whole wasp
Not yet.
heady peak
also is this something to worry about? got it due to missing them
heady peak
okay thanks
whole wasp
It resets when you clear a duty successfully.
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
is ancient one minion a dungeon drop?
twilit arch
yes
oak spindle
anyone have screenshots of the shinryu weapons?
fresh lodge
You can try them on through the Market Board
oak spindle
i cant log in until later aaa i guess ill just find out later
wet yew
Did they remove the deepshadow weapons? Where can I buy them now?
fresh lodge
They're still available in Eulmore
wet yew
Which vendor? I'm there but can't find it
fresh lodge
The Token exchanger
wet yew
Okay, thanks!
leaden ginkgo
Are lower level baits any useful if you have better ones?
twilit arch
if you're aiming for a specific fish, yes
just because a bait is higher in level doesn't mean that it'll be better for catching a particular fish
leaden ginkgo
Right... Thank you!
proper junco
anyone know if getting eden verse normal gear better than bis last tier?
proper junco
oki
leaden ginkgo
dumb question but..how do you unlock the umbrella emote thing
twin kelp
Does the Copied Factory drop gear or is there a vendor I can browse the gear on?
leaden ginkgo
I'm taking things a little slower this patch, but is there anything I'm going to miss out on by not doing it ASAP this patch?
sinful breach
zinc inlet
Good day to all! Tell me, can I get Fantasy for free? For example, the storyline or somewhere else?
Or is it bought only for real money?
zinc inlet
yes Fantasia*
twilit arch
you get one free from completing the main scenario quest, "The ultimate weapon"
after that you will have to purchase it with real money
zinc inlet
it's 50 level?
twilit arch
yes
inland lagoon
yeah
zinc inlet
thx u
inland lagoon
A quick question to summoners, am I supposed to get my world rocked by this demon of the tome?
Or do I just suck?
leaden ginkgo
Does the spiritbond matter at this point?
inland lagoon
yeah, 100% spits out materia
leaden ginkgo
But it doesn't matter if I extract it, right? I wouldn't be missing out on anything
inland lagoon
how do you mean?
twilit arch
you no longer lose the item when you convert (extract now)
inland lagoon
ye
twilit arch
so if you're at 100% feel free to extract, you won't lose the item
leaden ginkgo
Is there anything else I can do besides extracting the materia or I can extract right away?
twilit arch
you can either desynth the item for materials if you have that unlocked/crafting at the appropriate level or turn it in for grand company seals if you are sergeant second class, or higher, with your grand company
if you want materia from the item tho, extract first
then desynth/turn in
random warren
can you do the spiritbonding thing with deepshadow stuff?
zinc inlet
And fantasia is given for each character or 1 time for the whole account?
twilit arch
believe so, in a cutscene so can't check
To the character
Since any new character you make has to do the msq again
fresh lodge
They're not tradable though
zinc inlet
thx
random warren
so basically you hit extract materia and bam done?
twilit arch
yep
random warren
does it remove materia from the gear?
twilit arch
nope
fresh lodge
No, you use Extract Materia
Remove Materia takes the materia you have melded out of the gear
inland lagoon
lmao, this thing is wrecking me
anyone got tips for the Book With Bite quest?
twilit arch
hm, are you using titan egi?
inland lagoon
yeah, popping first shield around the start of the fight and it'll knock it off almost immediately
twilit arch
what's your gear look like?
twilit arch
I would strongly recommend getting the shire gear from idyllshire
inland lagoon
gotcha, boss
barren arrow
Is 5.2 out already?
twilit arch
yes
inland lagoon
we try try again
zinc orbitBOT
agile mica
any one have this kind of problem?
dense cave
Does anyone know where to get the angler's canvases?
agile mica
I am trying to reintall it
twilit arch
its from yellow scrips @dense cave
dense cave
@twilit arch thanks so much!
sonic sapphire
So while leveling bard I realized something, it's buffs are """weak""" (and rotative, not all 3 at the time like i thought), 1% extra damage, 2% crit chance and 3% hit chance, how does that really reflect later in game (specially raids and trials i assume) where this buff is given to 4/15 dps, etc. Does it really make up for the low DPS that bard itself have?
Or Bard is on a kind of bad position rn
sonic sapphire
Don't worry rain, i'm playing the woman, so there's nothing to quit
twilit arch
@sudden wolf please don't troll/give meme answers
sonic sapphire
(also yeah, that could be really missleading for some actually lost/really new to mmorpg players)
Like, i know it's not bad but i wanna understand what makes it good
twilit arch
that said, ranged is certain among the lower end for dps but in general, the difference between jobs isn't huge
sonic sapphire
because it's damage it's low (even if not huge difference) and it's buffs aren't thaaat big
twilit arch
just saying bards suck without actually reasoning behind it isn't helpful at all
sudden wolf
He is the one that has the reasoning
random warren
all jobs are fine
sudden wolf
I don’t got the numbers but he did the math
random warren
you can do savage with them just fine
sudden wolf
True
random warren
if you do shit dps thats on you
twilit arch
My point is to you if you're going to answer, make sure you actually have an answer to bring instead of just saying "it sucks"
sudden wolf
No 
sonic sapphire
Even tho 1% extra dps to all the other DPS is aprox... 250/300 ish more DPS that's not agregated to bard, which already makes it get into the dancer, red mage rank
sonic sapphire
and monk-ish in some sorts
sudden wolf
I thought I was in general
sonic sapphire
I know it's not a bad job
sudden wolf
I didn’t realize this was the help channel 
sonic sapphire
after all it's used on mostly any raid
sudden wolf
I’m stupid
warped nest
Bard is a lil under atm, but it is not unusable by any means
sonic sapphire
@warped nest (btw, you just said it's not usable at all
sudden wolf
So it’s like in this weird in between with mch and dnc
leaden ginkgo
Can you get duplicate items from the PotD?
sonic sapphire
yes
warped nest
Sorry, typo on phones
twilit arch
yes
sudden wolf
Yes
leaden ginkgo
sudden wolf
Well they are in different roles
warped nest
Be a lil more selfish and play what you enjoy
sudden wolf
So they aren’t really competing for a slot
warped nest
Don't think too hard about optimization
sudden wolf
True
still kernel
So. Where do I get umbrellas.
sudden wolf
Don’t think we know yet?
sonic sapphire
Oh, nono, don't get me wrong, i'm leveling a bard because it looks nice, and it looks like I'll really like the gameplay, i came here just to really find out why it is "the third most played job and used in most raid comps" @warped nest
I couldn't care less about meta damage and whatelse
Afterall if you compare a 90 percentile bard to a 60/70 percentile summoner
bard is gonna do more damage
¯_(ツ)_/¯
still kernel
I just wanna know...
warped nest
I am not sure if it is still third most played or use in raid comps
But the general reason is BRD has passive raid buff from just playing songs
sonic sapphire
A "not dumb" friend of mine told me taht, but maybe it was from past versions
or maybe even stormblood
raw solstice
It's always just been a popular job that a lot of people play. The differences between the ranged jobs after factoring in buff contribution is rather close and player skill can easily tip the scale any which way--that's true for all jobs in each role. And you want at least one of each role (melee/ranged/caster) since they bring a 1% bonus stat boost for main stat, to the entire party.
odd axle
Hey guys... going to ask a really tough question... It regards to the Eternal Bonding
So myself and partner got the platinum choice and when we went to check times for reservation, it shows atm from 21st to the 27th.. We was both hoping for the 29th so my question is will the times reset on a certain date? And if it does does it affect the platinum? Wanna find out before incase we make a mistake with waiting for the dates to change.
raven sage
They should reset on Thursday or Friday
And you can wait as long as you want that has no bearing on the plan or anything
odd axle
Ohh thank goodness for that XD
I tried looking online for any answers but was difficult to find the one I was after. Was really worried if we did wait it wouldve screwed us over with the plan we hadnt even used yet
Tyvm for the reply!
granite wolf
Where do I start the unlock quest for the new trial/raid? Done with the new MSQ
twilit arch
eden verse is in amh araeng
leaden ginkgo
Curiosity:
twilit arch
ruby weapon is in the lochs
leaden ginkgo
How’s the iLVL Curve with Tome, Crafted, and Raid gear, on 5.2?
That being, what are the ilvls of each :,D
granite wolf
meaning savage will probably be 500/505
twilit arch
dungeon is +10
granite wolf
dungeon gear is 455
leaden ginkgo
Iunno why i ask when im not even there, yet i get morbidly curious
rich bay
Edenchoir (E5S-E8S) gear is indeed i500/i505 @granite wolf.
jaunty matrix
is tehre a new feast season now
tidal knoll
Is Ronkan gear still obtainable anywhere?
jaunty matrix
will it be easier to find queue
twilit arch
from nuts @tidal knoll
tidal knoll
tyty
twilit arch
and currently its in preseason, lemon
vital sand
Did this discord have a data mining channel previously why cant i see it?
twilit arch
it did, but after the resident dataminer got banned, it was decided to remove the channel
vital sand
Oh ok
twilit arch
people still free to post datamining, in #archived-lore-spoilers, but they do so that their own risk
frosty badger
Master recipes 8 where?
fresh lodge
Eulmore
frosty badger
Ok thanks
zinc orbitBOT
frosty badger
And about exchanging now outdated gotia?
twilit arch
mor dhona
fluid hemlock
Anyone unlock the umbrella or parasol yet?
rich bay
Most likely something with the Vanu Vanu if you want to unlock the parasols.
twilit arch
in mor dhona
junior copper
what would be the quickest way for a lvl 56 whm to level up?
granite wolf
Where's the lochs?
fresh lodge
Its the final zone of SB
feral bough
is there a e5s clear vid yet?
proper junco
any crafters here are willing to show the # of mats needed for crafted striking gear?
frosty badger
So is crystarium gear the equivalent of scaevan?
sharp imp
anyone getting 6d error?
frosty badger
Hmm
open coral
I know a lot of people are having trouble logging in.
sharp imp
I am wondering this issue will be solved if i just reinstall the game
open coral
Some people have resolved their issues that way, yes.
split isle
has anyone managed to unlock the new raid? i did all the questline but didnt unlock the raid
open coral
Since people are currently running the Savage version of the new raid, yes. People have definitely managed to unlock the new raid.
silver lintel
oh right, i guess it did get turned off
it's been a month and a half and i still suck at this keyboard
open coral
Did you get baited by the quests related to the NieR raid?
split isle
oh yeah i was talking about the nier one
twilit arch
nier just has a few extra quests
wintry chasm
There is no new Nier raid
open coral
There is no new NieR raid this patch
twilit arch
there is no raid to unlock this patch
split isle
oh 😂 rip lmao
split isle
tyty
open coral
The only change to the NieR raid this patch is that weekly loot caps are unlocked.
So you can get as many pieces per week as you can win.
sharp imp
i got the 6d error issue solved by reinstalling the game..
humble burrow
Where did you go to uninstall? Been struggling to find the option X-X
sharp imp
I had back up of whole SQEX file on my external drive, cuz i reinstalled my window last weekend, so i over wrote whole folder and reinstalled the 5.2 patch
Well, just go to your window setting and erase the game i guess ?
humble burrow
I'll delete the main folder and let the client download the files I guess
sharp imp
I think reinstalling the game after erasing(deleting) is the best option for now. unless there are back up like i did
that should do it
vocal basin
are there catch up mechanics in the new patch? returning to game, haven't finished SHB yet
frosty badger
Can you go wrong with the newly added crafting scrip gear?
Is facet gear still the best?
fresh lodge
Melded Facet is still the best
frosty badger
I see
fresh lodge
The script gear is never even remotely close to being the best, and for crafting its outright terrible
fresh lodge
No
frosty badger
I see, thanks
zinc orbitBOT
frosty badger
Guess we will just need the new crafting tools then for added crafts req of new recipes
empty parrot
Does anyone know where to buy the base game on PC?
I tried looking on the SE store but it only has shadowbringers and gametime card
fresh lodge
Did you look for Starter Edition?
humble burrow
Okay
empty parrot
Google link leads to 404
humble burrow
I can't find a way to redownload the client
zinc bone
In SE Store is a Complete Edition, Shadowbringers is included
Niamh just look for "FF14 Client" you'll get a blue page with a red download button, It's official ^^
humble burrow
I got it there. Sorry....it was just acting up. The client download I found, thought it wasn't legit. Icon was weird X-X
empty parrot
The person wanting to buy it is looking to buy base game
oak spindle
so is e5s harder than e4s?
green grail
no
rich bay
The vendor if the new practice mats is in Eulmore right? The same that sells the mats for Kai'shirr collectables?
languid kernel
is the next raid wing through the msq?
tidal seal
Does the subscription days count from reset to reset?
raven sage
The raid unlock starts in Amh Araeng but there is an MSQ quest that needs to be completed for one of the later quests
green grail
for the very last quest
raven sage
And I don't think it impacts unlocking savage either?
green grail
yep, no msq required for savage
maiden breach
where can i exchange the goeta tomestones?
leaden ginkgo
Mor Dhona
maiden breach
thanks!
frosty badger
To be clear materia extraction removes ALL melds with 100% success?
raven sage
extraction makes new materia out of the spiritbond
raven sage
Yes
little glen
One message removed from a suspended account.
frosty badger
Oooh
raven sage
It has nothing to do with whatever is melded into it
final fiber
In a very convoluted way it's like upon reaching 100% on one of your gears it "drops" a meteria and resets back to 1% bond
frosty badger
I get it now thanks!
zinc orbitBOT
thick bolt
um I just did a full party and it took less then a minute, why exactly was that a full party boss?
green grail
cause weird old content
raven sage
It was never rebalanced
green grail
next 2 dungeons are weird too but after that it gets back to normal
thick bolt
it was cape westwind
green grail
yep
thick bolt
lol okay
raven sage
Oh we know what you meant
final fiber
About that new "Versatile Lure", just how powerful is this thing? Is it supposed to just save a handful of inventory slots for super super early leveling (like 1~20), or is there more to it? It sounded really cool to me in the pre-patch notes (like some kind of WoW-heirloom like system where this one lure replaces every single pre-endgame lure), but ingame it looks much less impressive, but i don't know my way around fishing/gathering enough to judge its value
green grail
ornate is from 3line wondrous tails and has 5 guaranteed meld slots
raven sage
Wondrous Tails is an activity you unlock in Idyllshire from Khloe the little catgirl outside of Rowena's shop
lilac thicket
it's bingo for duties
raven sage
She'll give you a book with a sticker game inside and the goal is to get as many lines as possible
It's a weekly activity as well so if you get one now you have to wait until next Tuesday
for another one
upbeat kernel
Which npc unlock new edens?
green grail
in ahm araeng
upbeat kernel
Much appreciated
thick bolt
Are their any disciplees of the land jobs that go with multiple hands?
raven sage
Some things need lumber
green grail
some wooden accessories need gems
thick bolt
so I should do all hands then
darn I was hoping to pick up 3 things max to start with
oak spindle
two questions: is deepshadow augmented better or worse than eden verse normal gear? and eden verse normal is locked, what does that mean? can i run in multiple times a week but the gear is one per week?
severe shoal
Question regarding gathering. There aren’t enough alarm spots for all 12 alarms for new items, correct?
Or am I doing it wrong
raw solstice
eden verse normal gear is better than augmented deepshadow
for loot lockout for eden normal, it's basically what you put yes, you can run as many times as you want but you can only win one piece of gear per instance per week
so if you really want one specific token from a fight you can just run it over and over again and only roll on that
rocky oxide
Does anyone know how to obtain the new hair? Feel free to PM me if it's considered a spoiler.
oak spindle
ah ok that makes sense thanks
raw solstice
new hairstyle is supposedly through new ishgard stuff, which isn't out yet
random warren
The Karen hair will be from ishgard in 5.21 in a couple weeks time
rocky oxide
Thanks~
wintry chasm
Karen?
rocky oxide
Yeah like the meme
wintry chasm
I don't remember seeing this hair
wintry chasm
What does new hairstyle look like?
rocky oxide
I'll PM you piccie in case spoilerinos
boreal lynx
Does the paladin shield count as a separate relic? How many HW relics are there exactly? 12?
rocky oxide
You do it at the same time you get your sword
raw solstice
PLD sword and shield come as a combo
there's sometimes some weird mix in resources/stat allocation when it comes to upgrading it along the way but it's always effectively the same as any other weapon
just two slots
boreal lynx
Hmm okay.
I guess the total amount of times I need to do for all relics is 13 then. Cheers
rocky oxide
Are you counting RDM, SAM, GNB and DNC? 🤔
raw solstice
I double checked, 13 is correct for HW relic
raw solstice
3 tanks, 3 healers, 3 melee, 2 ranged, 2 caster
rocky oxide
18 jobs?
boreal lynx
I just wanted to pre farm the umbrite. Thanks for the double checking
raw solstice
just make sure not to overfarm considering the chance of bonus at the halfway point
boreal lynx
I'll just get the minimum 60x13 sets and see how it goes from there. Cheers
raven mason
I'm starting the free trial to see if i like the game. Would any of you suggest i choose a preferred server?
hoary storm
Preferred server means double exp, so yeah its great for new ppl
raven mason
another question. If i decide i like the game and buy it, i just have to buy the latest expansion and get the old ones with it correct?
random warren
no
hoary storm
You have to either buy the complete edition or ARR + Shadowbringers
random warren
you have to buy the base game for like a tenner
then shadowbringers
or the complete one
complete one is like £45 tho
dull willow
Is there any feedback on the gatherers changes since they didn't tell anything in the patch notes ?
celest whale
piggy backing off the above... so if I have the base game and I buy the most recent expansion it unlocks everything?
hoary storm
Yep
raven mason
Sorry my computer froze. Thanks for the answers
celest whale
oh shhhhnnnaaapppp I think I might do it. I just started a new character after being off for 6 years
and I do not regret abandoning my old char
leveling quickly too
flint birch
what would be the best way to level up alternate jobs because i feel like switching as i am not enjoying warrioir as much as i thought i would? or would it better if i finish the msq first before switching
hoary storm
If you wanna switch up to you, roulettes gives the most exp, after that spam the highest dungeon you can for healer/tanks, for DPS the queues might be a bit long so an alternative would be Palace of the Dead
raven mason
i'm getting service unavailable ( busy) from the launcher, is that cause its patch day and a lot of people are playing?
flint birch
do i do palace of the dead solo or match with other players
hoary storm
It matches you with other ppl
rich bay
@raven mason, yes. A common error when many people tries to access a service.
flint birch
i tried that but the queue time is above 30 mins
rich bay
@flint birch, most only spam PotD 51-60 or HoH 21-30.
hoary storm
Right now might be good for palace since its patch day
Most ppl will be doing MSQ or new stuff
rich bay
Don't do MSQ, because there is a bug.
flint birch
true queue times are probably high cause i am in tonberry
flint birch
most australians are probably asleep
hoary storm
The new msq?
random warren
also if you do get stuck force a logout
runic cosmos
so i am almost done with getting my drk weapon to awoken does it upgrade it to anima from there or will i need a whole different weapon?
random warren
ohhhh it goes a lot further
thick bolt
Holy cow 8 mans are so easy it isn't really fun
random warren
awoken is 200
thick bolt
this seriously should have just been a 4 man
random warren
theres 210-230-240-260-270-275
230 is a glowing stage of 210
260 a glowy 240
and 275 and 270 both glow just diff colours
runic cosmos
yeah i see that but is it the same weapon upgraded over and over or different weapons ?
raven sage
@thick bolt you're not in endgame. Most content is boring
random warren
no they use different models
theyll look different at the specific stages i listed
so 210, 240 and 270
junior yacht
it kinda alternates between new models and the same model as a previous step but with particles
hoary storm
@thick bolt Which 8 man?
runic cosmos
ok thanks i am about to be done with hw post quest so the next stage should be unlocked then right ?
thick bolt
the campaign ones so far
hoary storm
I think they mean MSQ 8 man, those are a joke
random warren
there isnt an msq 8 man
thick bolt
this one is
little swift
1 of 2 8man dungeons in the game
Both mandatory in story
And they learned to not make those anymore
thick bolt
um it's an 8 man their are 8 of us lmao
little swift
It's not a trial
open coral
Yes. There are two 8-man dungeons in the game.
hoary storm
yeah but those are the epitome of easiness
little swift
That's what we're trying to convey
open coral
Trials are a single boss, no trash.
hoary storm
When they first get into savage "Why is this so hard?"
little swift
And you're a long way off from current endgame
open coral
^
leaden ginkgo
does anyone know how to get the umbrella
stray saffron
wait 'til 5.21 probably
undone flicker
How many missions in is the new dungeon?
stray saffron
??? missions?
raw solstice
I'm guessing they're asking how many quests to do for the patch to unlock dungeon
raw solstice
(I did too, at first)
undone flicker
Yeah, sorry 😅
zinc orbitBOT
stray saffron
someone I know who's finished it says it's in the second half somewhere -- so probably 4-6 quests in, maybe?
I think there's like 8 or 10 quests total this patch
narrow parcel
exactly 10
raven mason
ok sorry to bother you guys again. I'm getting an error "Unable to complete version check" now
the numbers i get are [30410][30607][20457][404]
pliant citrus
Hi guys, just finished ARR main quest and trying to see if I should just focus straight onto the next main quests or if I should be doing dailies, beast tribe, free company stuff, etc now
narrow parcel
Most would suggest continue with the MSQ since a lot of features tend to be locked behind it, and there's no real reason to do the older dailies or beast tribes other than collecting stuff
open coral
Personally, I make it a point to do all of the at the "end" of each expansion just so it's all unlocked.
So at the end of ARR I go and unlock Crystal Tower, all the EX trials, beast tribes, etc.
leaden ginkgo
What can I do to increase Ilevel from 450 to 470
mystic forge
let ma play ff q_q shit 6d code..
sonic sapphire
So.. Bard only gets 1 dot proc per second with it's ballade right? since both dots proc together
so 20/40% per second
open coral
Get full Augmented Deepshadow gear @leaden ginkgo
open coral
How much goetia do you have?
leaden ginkgo
It all went into my phantas when I logged in I think
raven sage
You manually convert those
open coral
Did you exchange it? It doesn't go automatically.
eternal mica
Is it possible to play this game without a mouse with 12 buttons on the side of it?
open coral
Of course @eternal mica
eternal mica
I hate using ctrl and alt as mods
open coral
@leaden ginkgo Go to Mor Dhona. There's an NPC in the same tent as where you buy Ironworks gear labeled as "Tomestone Exchange"
leaden ginkgo
URRRGH
open coral
Talk to her, and she'll give you the ability to exchange all of your goetia at a 4:1 rate for phantas
So if you're capped on goetia you'll get 500
@eternal mica You can always click abilities or bind to keyboard prompts
pliant citrus
@open coral what would you do at level 56 if your having a hard time completing some quests. For instance, tried doing the level 52 samurai quest and the boss is crushing me
open coral
@pliant citrus What kind of gear do you have on?
atomic mango
where do we get umbrellas
open coral
afaik nobody knows yet @atomic mango
atomic mango
reeee
open coral
We may have to wait for .21
eternal mica
there are no good raiders or pvp players that click their abilities. I'll just have to suck it up haha
open coral
lol, yeah, that is true 😄
leaden ginkgo
Can somebody help me with this problem? I've been looking around and trying different things, but I still keep getting this problem.
pliant citrus
@open coral wearing the black samurai gear they gave me as an item. I forget the name. It’s like a black dress
open coral
@leaden ginkgo From what I hear, people experiencing this issue have been fixing it by reinstalling the game.
pliant citrus
@open coral nameless togi
open coral
@pliant citrus Go to Mor Dhona and purchase Ironworks gear, it's higher ilevel than the starter gear.
leaden ginkgo
Already tried reinstalling
open coral
Higher ilevel = more health/better stats, so you'll have an easier time both killing things and surviving.
pliant citrus
What about weapon?
open coral
Same thing, pick up an Ironworks weapon.
pliant citrus
Also- is there a good guide somewhere so I don’t have to ask you guys 2000 questions lol
I’ve googled but a lot of it is crap or outdated
open coral
It's easier to ask questions, tbh
open coral
I'm not the only one here, there are others who can also answer questions when they're paying attention, and our aggregate knowledge of the game will be both more targeted to what you need to know, and more accurate to current content.
pliant citrus
Well thank you, I really appreciate it
leaden ginkgo
Part of the fun of these games is talking with other people, especially when it comes to learning the game.
open coral
That's what we're here for 😄
hoary storm
ppl actually help each other? 
pliant citrus
Lol
hoary storm
What kind of sorcery is this
cursive sand
What eu server should I pick? Am new player
robust crow
did the new update include any additions to the mog shop
green grail
not as far as I know, they usually add stuff to it at different times than content patches, like we had a new emote a couple weeks ago @robust crow
zealous gate
Uhm, did they add a new hairstyle in this update? 😬
boreal lynx
Whats the difference between the ornate and non ornate gear? Does it matter?
And would you rather buy the normal HQ version or the ornate version?
green grail
most likely from Ishgard restoration like last time, so not obtainable yet @zealous gate
zealous gate
Ah I see
stray saffron
Ornate only comes from wondrous tails and has 5 guaranteed materia slots
zealous gate
Thank you 😄
stray saffron
You can overmeld the regular crafted, but the ornate is better (but rarer and a lot more expensive) because you can meld 5 grade VIII materia
raven mason
Keep getting it. Tried changing stuff in the .cfg file under mygames, also tried from tethering my phone and vpn
hoary storm
Try flushing DNS
quartz shale
make sure you try running the launcher as admin as well
sly willow
does anyone know what exactly was changed from the main scenario quests of ARR? there wasn't any information on the patch notes right?
hoary storm
The changes will be in 5.3
raven mason
flushed dns, still doesn't work, Ugh i might have to try and reinstall... but it takes so long 😦
rough anchor
Is there a gear repairer in idylshire ?
hoary storm
Youre not alone
open coral
@rough anchor Yes. The Goblin Tinker
hoary storm
@rough anchor
rough anchor
quick jolt
Quick question about fishing, I'm trying to fish at the Clutch in Central Thanalan, but its saying I cant fish here, but the guide says theres a spot.
Am I doing something wrong?
boreal lynx
You can overmeld the regular crafted, but the ornate is better (but rarer and a lot more expensive) because you can meld 5 grade VIII materia
@stray saffron Umm can't u meld 5 also with the normal? .__.
random warren
all jobs are viable for raiding
boreal lynx
Otherwise it still has to follow the limit of how much stats you can add right?
raven sage
You can't meld 5 grade 8s for overmelds on the regular gear
normal fiber
nvm checking pins here first
gloomy ice
@quick jolt More fishing spots unlock as you level up. You might be too low level for that fishing hole.
raven sage
The ornate have 5 guaranteed slots
quick jolt
@gloomy ice I thought that might be the case, but I'm level 54.
boreal lynx
Oh. Okay that makes sense. Xd
normal fiber
how long does it take to level to max level approx?
gloomy ice
Huh. Ok yeah that's odd.
paper raptor
What's the most efficient way to level alts to 80?
hoary storm
Roulettes/Highest dungeon/palace of the dead
royal moth
Hey guys,anyone knows how to get the new ranged physical dps gear ? I can't seem to find it anywhere T^T
paper raptor
Palace of the dead is worth it post 60?
raven sage
If you mean the contest winner that's the new crafted gear
So you either need to buy the mastercraft books or check the marketboard if you just want to see them
dusky nest
@paper raptor nah. At 61+ you should do HoH
boreal lynx
Post 60 you'll go to Heaven on High
royal moth
Yes i mean that one! Do you know which class can craft them ? Arm ? Cause i unlocked weaver thinking it was that one 
spark igloo
How to take out parasol
wintry chasm
Doesn't seem to be in yet
raven sage
Weaver and Leatherworker might have the most of it
spark igloo
:(
paper raptor
So HoH is good from 70 to 80 too?
raven sage
If not then Arm would def be next guess
royal moth
Welp,i'II just unlock everything,but i needed to know if it was craftable,tyvm 
gloomy ice
@quick jolt Ok there are two fishing spots near the Clutch. One is Soot Creek, just NE of Black Brush aetheryte and the other is the Unholy Heir. The shallow pool with the frogs a little further to the east.
gentle prism
Can the viera wear that new hair or nah? I figure it's a n
quick jolt
the one I'm looking for is apparently here @gloomy ice
I got the 3 others
unless this guide is way wrong
which I'm starting to think it is
slow plover
is there any use to the fishes you get on the Endeavour?
gloomy ice
I've never been able to get a fishing spot to trigger from that location either. Seems obvious that it would work.
zinc orbitBOT
jovial verge
Sorry for being dense, where do I exchange my old goetia tomes?
slate arrow
the same old place where you exchanged your old tomestones for poetics
green grail
mor dhona
rough anchor
I needs help
Doing shiva extreme
And some of her attacks just oneshot
What do
Like the arrows one insta’d 5 people...
green grail
the arrows are a 270 degree aoe so be behind her
if you're doing it synced then you most likely just want any old guide from YouTube
rough anchor
And the one that shoots out 5 ice claws? That’s oneshot me as a tank once or twice too
raven sage
Gotta be ready for that since it's a tankbuster
green grail
use cooldowns and maybe tank swap, don't remember really
feral bough
@green grail so msq not required for savage unlock confirmed?
green grail
also if you're doing it on blu then you're still basically a squish dps and need to diamondback tank busters
yes, you don't need msq for savage
feral bough
wandering minstrel then, even if you haven’t finished eden’s verse quests just clear e8n?
raven sage
Yeah
green grail
not minstrel, just another quest in mord suq
tight grotto
where are some good places to go for/what are some good guides for dancer and gunbreaker? prospective returning player from stormblood wanting to learn about the nitty gritty of the new classes
frigid cedar
I heard something on twitter, it seems people think that they might add fly to the ARR zones.
in 5.3
green grail
and you need to finish eden's verse normal except for the last quest which appears when you finish msq
frigid cedar
is this true?
green grail
we don't know and basically can't know until some interview or liveletter tells us more about the msq rework
frigid cedar
Oh, so is it related to the datamine? if so I wont keep asking.
green grail
dunno how it was discovered, just heard they added collisions and invisible walls etc to ARR zones that weren't there before, so basically same info as people on reddit/twitter
random warren
nespriot
the barriers are more likely
to deal with botters
barriers alone wont enable flying theyd need to redesign the entire map
because if you fly in an arr zone basically you see things that you arent supposed to
wow had to basically "nuke" ek and kalimdor to allow flying
and you still cant fly in ghostlands, eversong and the draenei zones
paper raptor
Where do you exchange Goetia?
green grail
mor dhona
paper raptor
Really?
raven sage
You always exchange there
stray saffron
when a new tomestone comes out, the exchange for the deprecated one is always in the same place in mor dhona
paper raptor
Going to place i haven't bought gear from in years just feels weird.
clever ferry
stray saffron
yeah, pretty sure next phase starts 5.21
probably trying to let the world first race play out and us regular humans time to do the MSQ and Eden and stuff
frosty badger
Crafting
paper raptor
Did they remove old Goetia armors?
open coral
The Goetia armor has been moved to the Clan Nutsy vendor and is available for Nuts rather than tomestones.
burnt pelican
is there a way to check thew mats for the new recipes?
normal fiber
how to chose the "right" datacenter in eu 😄 ?
lament wagon
there's no right datacenter
eventually pick the datacenter/server your friends are playing on
also shiva is the unofficial german server and moogle is the unofficial french server
random warren
both are fine for eu
light or chaos
you're not going to be heavily disadvantaged or advantaged by picking one over the other
modern panther
How do you join a free company?
thick bolt
Does your character's patron deity do anything?
random warren
no its just a fluff thing
zinc orbitBOT
half pulsar
I'm reading through the patch notes for 5.2, and it mentions Chronicles of a New Era changes to quest markers in 2.X, 3.X and 4.X. I don't think I've heard of these Chronicles yet, what are they?
obsidian patio
Chronicles of a New Era is the name given to the series of quests for a set of trials/raids
glad pewter
Did any job got buffed or nerfed for PVE on 5.2 or just in PVP?
obsidian patio
Like the Ivalice 24-man series or the Alexander 8-man
half pulsar
Ah, so that's also the stuff related to Chrystal Tower?
obsidian patio
Each of them are mostly their own thing, but yes crystal tower is one of them
stray saffron
@glad pewter check patch notes: RDM slight potency buffs, SMN slight potency nerfs, BLM, WHM AOE falloff buffed, WAR Shake it Off shield buffed slightly
glad pewter
Tks gonna look into it
tidal knoll
There a gallery of the Anamnesis Armor armor anywhere?
boreal aurora
since Cerberus is preffered server now does it have routine bonus ?
leaden ginkgo
Famfrit no longer preferred :(
stray saffron
all preferred servers have road to 70 for new characters
boreal aurora
idk i aint subbed atm
leaden ginkgo
Can you check when the road to 70 buff expires?
random warren
those are huge servers
stray saffron
yeah
boreal aurora
rip
stray saffron
you have to have made the character after the preferred marker went up, too
austere vector
Does anyone know where is the new hairstyle 5.2 ?
hoary storm
@leaden ginkgo You can check your first achievement on lodestone, that should tell you somewhat
tardy patio
whats the fastest way to boost ilv on week one no crafted with plans on getting right-side and weapon from trials? Ring, belt and boots/head/gloves from raid and then weekly tomestones on boots/head/glove that wasnt bought from raid?
Or is it better to just save the weekly tomes for the future bis chest/legs and weapon
tough wolf
Anything I can do so that my retainers level faster than 1 level per hour? (they're level 9 at the moment)
rigid viper
can boost them to 70 via the mog station if you wanna pay $$
stray saffron
my plan is probably head/belt/ring from Eden normal, other ring from allegory tomes this week, then start saving for tome chest and legs
strange prism
Where do you exchange goetia
stray saffron
mor dhona, same as always
strange prism
mor dhona? i don't remember.....where exactly?
rigid viper
top of the hill where the crowd of people will be
stray saffron
the tent with the tome vendors
boreal canopy
hi, im on the edge about ff
im coming from bdo as a lifeskiller
i dont know much about how the lifeskilling in this game is
can someone point me towards a useful resource?
(or if you just know)
stray saffron
lifeskilling, i'm guessing, means crafting and gathering. if so, it's quite detailed and involved here. genuinely as deep a rabbit hole as high-end PVE (maybe more so tbh)
there are 8 crafting and 3 gathering classes, each of which has its own abilities, rotations, buffs and debuffs, resources to manage, and gear
jovial isle
does any one know what matts are needed for the neo ishguardian gear
stray saffron
look em up on garlandtools and click the crafting tab
boreal canopy
there are 8 crafting and 3 gathering classes, each of which has its own abilities, rotations, buffs and debuffs, resources to manage, and gear
@stray saffron oooh ok
silk summit
Do you get credit from marks if you're dead when they go down? The only way I'm gonna be able to hit them is by spamming aoes, but since they don't load in for me I won't be able to see their attacks
stray saffron
https://www.garlandtools.org/db/#item/29440 here's the aiming cap
stray saffron
it's kind of a parallel progression path. you have to have at least one combat class because the main story questline is combat-only, and that's how you unlock, like, every zone past the base game
but yeah, there are for sure people who are at endgame who basically just craft and gather full-time
stray saffron
this expansion has actually just seen a big overhaul to the whole crafting/gathering system, and in a few weeks we have ranked competitive crafting with leaderboards and everything starting up
weary umbra
@silk summit yeah the credit you get comes from your partys overall damage
barren arrow
Where's the Goetia exchange?
weary umbra
also you need to hit the mark at least once
silk summit
Oh...that's why people join partys
boreal canopy
ok that sounds really fun
open coral
@barren arrow Mor Dhona, by the Ironworks gear vendor.
barren arrow
ty
leaden ginkgo
if someone leaves, do you have to start the dungeon over again?
how do you requeue to get another?>
junior yacht
one person in the group is assigned as party leader
pale juniper
where are the angler canvases found?
nimble holly
is there a discord server for hunt trains on primal?
kind burrow
hey um, i have a question about desynthesis
how do i know what and if the item can drop items?
open coral
At the bottom of the information window every piece of gear has a list of things you can and cannot do with it.
If it says "Desynthesizable: Yes" then it can drop items.
kind burrow
thanks
vital sedge
Do we have any workarounds to help with a 90001 disconnecting error? I just reset my router but unsure if others have had this.
random warren
you need 1k phantasmagoria