how do people level up DPS alt jobs? just fates and whenever roulettes pop?
#questions-and-help
twilit arch
Palace of the Dead is the general recommend way of leveling dps
since the queues are usually much quicker than that of dungeons, but if your dungeon queues are decent doing the highest level one is better
daily roulette always ofc
patent cave
im trying to make a list of the other jobs id want to play, im in the gap before stormblood and im 70 on my dancer, so i figure i finish shadowbringers MSQ
and it feels pointless to waste that XP from msq
makin a list of the other jobs i wanna play
open coral
Do you mean are there going to be more patches this expansion?
There will be more patches, and each one will have a little more msq.
leaden ginkgo
That too but not necessarily
leaden ginkgo
I just don't want to have shadowbringers cliffhangers and have to wait for patches
open coral
Then you'll have to wait until the next expansion comes out.
wintry chasm
have fun
leaden ginkgo
Fml
patent cave
i mean arr had a cliff hanger
wintry chasm
That is kinda how ongoing games work
open coral
^
patent cave
heavensward which i just finished had a cliffhanger
leaden ginkgo
The dread having to wait and the sheer curiosity eat me alive gradually
patent cave
the core story gets resolved and you're happy, but then oh no loose scary plot thread to keep you excited
open coral
FFXIV is actually nicely paced in terms of how often we get new story.
New story about every 3 months, give or take a couple weeks.
Typically.
leaden ginkgo
I'm just referring to the patches post shadowbringers and if those patches actually add on to the actual plot of shb or if it's just extra story content that succeeds it
open coral
Compare to a game like WoW, where you get a new major content patch every 8 months or so.
patent cave
ive happily finalized my list of jobs i wanna play, DNC, WHM, SMN, SCH
when i get my DNC to 80 anyway
im hoping that SMN has enough mobility for me
wintry chasm
5.1 and 5.2 seem to be ending the Shadowbringers MSQ and 5.3+ will be setting up the new expansion @leaden ginkgo
but like
The entire plot flows
open coral
It's a continuous story
leaden ginkgo
Ahh so 5.3+ is basically the start of the new arc
wintry chasm
so it's not like 5.3+ isn't ShB plot since it'd be dealing with stuff that is from ShB
Ehhh
kinda
leaden ginkgo
It's the bridge
wintry chasm
More like sets up the new arc
open coral
It's the first step on the bridge that will eventually lead to 6.0
weak flume
No spoilers please
I'm still in HW
open coral
I guess
wintry chasm
We aren't Ashe
leaden ginkgo
@weak flume no worries
wintry chasm
We aren't really allowed to do non spoiler tagged spoilers in this channel anyway
leaden ginkgo
open coral
This is really all technical talk. Spoilers would be if we started discussing the actual plot of these patches.
weak flume
I had something spoiled from Storm for me in another discord, so any talk of possible things I start to worry
leaden ginkgo
This discord is better tho
open coral
We're pretty good about not spoiling people outside of the channel specifically for that.
leaden ginkgo
lilac void
i needed 20 hrs for lvl 30, just curious, do I need another 20 hrs for lvl 60 just doing MSQ's?
weak flume
Yeah, I still...People talk...and sometimes people tend to forget what channel their in
wintry chasm
No
open coral
@lilac void You won't be able to do 30-60 with just MSQ. You're going to hit walls at least a couple of times in there where you'll need to do other stuff.
wintry chasm
Because
A) it depends on how long it takes to do MSQ there
B) the ARR patch quests don't give as much xp
lilac void
alrighty
leaden ginkgo
Damn I'm at level 24 and I have like 60 hours in
open coral
Everyone takes their own time.
leaden ginkgo
But that's because I leave the game running
patent cave
remember to do your duty toulettes every day!
wintry chasm
Also since expansions only give 10 levels you naturally level slower in them @lilac void
patent cave
roulettes*
leaden ginkgo
I'm pretty sure at least 7-8 hours was just my character standing there while I was doing something lol
patent cave
press u, its the left most tab
wintry chasm
But yeah like, you don't get any 45 min cutscenes in 1-30 like you do in 30-60
lilac void
@patent cave ohh i already did that yesterday and today and got a fat bonus for being a healer
patent cave
yea the XP rewards are huge and they scale to your level
open coral
You get a daily bonus for doing each roulette the first time + you can also use the roulettes to complete some of the Challenge Log entries.
patent cave
if you can do them every day
open coral
In Need bonuses are just icing on the cake.
But that's another thing I'd recommend looking into if you haven't unlocked it already @lilac void : Challenge Logs.
The quest to unlock starts at the Drowning Wench in Limsa Lominsa.
lilac void
i really have to put my game language to english
open coral
What, like the audio language? Or the actual text language?
lilac void
@open coral ill look into that, thank you
text language is german right now, so everything you say makes semi sense for me right now cause i didnt see that yet :P
open coral
Ooh
patent cave
are there any melee jobs which dont involve positionjals?
im not keen on melee generally, and the idea of positionals isnt swaying me either
patent cave
unfortunate, oh well
slate arrow
I mean tanks are technically melee but they have a different job
patent cave
ill try tanking at some point i suppose, but i've never really enjoyed tanking
prefer reactionary gameplay
timber fossil
I think ninja only has 2 positionals
or 3
dragoon has a crap ton
monk has quite a few.
patent cave
i played samurai for a while and i dug it a bit, but to take preference over ranged physical dps jobs will be hard
dusty jungle
Can you imagine tanks with positionals, what a nightmare
dusty jungle
Unrelated note, do the allied beast tribe quests not appear as blue quests?
patent cave
they do
dusty jungle
I'm not seeing it in kugane 
slate arrow
some quests have more than a few prereqs
warped nest
I want to interject real quick on Ninja postional: Trick Attack now gains potency from rear position, but it will proc from any direction.
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junior dirge
https://i.imgur.com/ar2VWHz.jpg Are these Eastern Cherry Trees?
obsidian patio
Yes
junior dirge
How do so many people have multiple of them when they cost 10m+
I saw a guy have 2 of them and his retainer was selling stuff between 800-2000 gil
It doesn't add up
obsidian patio
It was an old seasonal event reward
Before SE started making them all untradeable
junior dirge
:(
tawdry otter
Is it normal, that my own chocobo is so damn weak in healing?
slate arrow
yes
tawdry otter
so not worth to leveling him
sturdy mason
should I always be using Final Appraisal?
Wouldn't I get one more Touch spell out of it?
never mind I was mistaking it for durability
not sure how this one is useful
obsidian patio
It could be used to stall a step for condition RNG if it doesn’t disrupt your finishing progress moves
sturdy mason
u mean for condition, not quality?
obsidian patio
Yeah sorry
sturdy mason
that's a good idea
actually I still don't get it. Let's say you are 8/10 progress and I get +2 each time I do basic synth. With this spell, I need 20 durability to finish versus just 10
8 -> 9 -> 10 vs 8 -> 10
I guess if you always have plenty of durability its useful?
I never complete a craft with more than 10 durability though
it takes me all durability to get to 80-100% quality
patent cave
does mch have any dots?
raven sage
It has one at I think 72?
slate arrow
one, bioblaster, but you only use it in AoE
patent cave
oh well thats alright then
ty
and then bards dots have to be reapplied right? they dont auto refresh?
theres two if i recall
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leaden ginkgo
where do you go to get accessories and armor?
because I usually just stick with the stuff they give you throughout the job quests and there is also those poetic shops
patent cave
you can go on the marketplace if its just bits and bobs you need replacing
warped nest
Just do dungeon or don't bother depending on your level
If you are lvl 58 for example, you might as well get to 60 and buy Shire with Poetics
leaden ginkgo
are dungeons the only worthwhile ones?
warped nest
It depends on your level
leaden ginkgo
because I'm level 38 summoner but I have an item level of 25
warped nest
Once you get access to poetic shop in Mor Dhona, you can get i120 gears that can be upgrade to i130
Do this slowly as you finish up all the lvl 50 ARR epilogue quests
Your i130 gears can last you into lvl 55 ish MSQ in Heavensward
That said, on lvl 50+, if you found something cheap on MB (make sure they are HQ), you can get those as well
crude relic
Quick leveling question, if I switch to RDM before starting the ARR Epilogue quests around what level should I be going into HW?
warped nest
HW is designed for lvl 50
If you are asking how many level you will get as RDM, I would say just 1-2 level if you don't do any roulette
The epilogue quests for each expansions doesn't give a lot of exp
They had 0 exp when they were the endgame quests
crude relic
Yeah that's more what I was asking, I've done 2.0-5.0 before but I don't have the money to transfer to the server I'm currently on so I was wondering how ahead of the HW curve I'd be on RDM xD I just worded really weirdly I guess. How long should the Epilogues take me for ARR? I was told a while ago by a friend it would take like 3-4 days? XD
little swift
Depends on how many you knockout
patent cave
are the roulettes reset if you go on a different job?
little swift
In a dat
patent cave
the daily bonus
warped nest
Roulette is daily
little swift
No roulettes are once a day
warped nest
2.1-2.2 has a lot of fetch quests
2.3 wrap things up for ARR and start to set up for HW
You can get them done in 2 weekend if you play only on weekends
crude relic
Well until I get another job I'm gonna be playing every day unless I need a break, about how long would it take me if I'm playing 12+ hours a day? Rough estimates of course.
warped nest
Day and half to two days
Oh
You can teleport to Limsa, then use the aether net to move to Arcanist guild, then use the ship to go to waking sands
In case you don't want to teleport to Horizon then travel on foot or on chocobo to waking sands
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sturdy mason
What should I be spending company seals on?
obsidian patio
I’d prioritise promotions until Sergeant 2nd class to turn in gear for seals. If you already have that rank then maybe more promotions for the glamour or look into what sells the best for their seal cost
Glamour Prisms and Glamour Dispellers generally have a healthy demand which keeps them at a consistent price, but it never hurts to check the other materials
These items too I noticed generally sell nice
Just compare how often they sell, how much they sell for, and how much they cost in seals.
Or just go the easy way out and buy stacks of glamour prisms
sturdy mason
nice ty
tepid jackal
I purchased the game on steam and keep getting this error code, I know it means my payment has been processed incorrectly or something but my bank has been billed so I really don't know what's up
I spent 60 bucks on the game and shadowbringers and it won't even let me register my product keys
amber ingot
how to get there?
obsidian patio
@amber ingot flying
@tepid jackal disable your VPN if you have one active, that can also cause the error code
tepid jackal
I don't have one installed on my computer at all
tepid jackal
Odd, my connection's been perfectly fine all night
I already submitted a support ticket but it's really frustrating that I have to wait for them to respond to me so that I can play the game I paid 60 bucks for :/
I honestly don't know what could be causing it considering I had plenty of money in my bank account and the game is showing up in my steam library
leaden ginkgo
its crazy how good of a deal the complete edition is
20 bucks on sale,compare that to people who had to buy hw sb and shb by their own
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sturdy mason
Technically I don't think so, it's more like "Repair some of the things, multiple times"
anyway... QoL
raven sage
That's what makes it technically
Like it's not but is at the same time
anyway spaghetti code
sturdy mason
lol
lost sinew
someone told me AST can use synastry on tank and heal the tank and get an extra +40% heal after. i can’t reproduce this. i can’t seem to get synastry to do ANYTHING, in fact. can anyone help explain?
leaden ginkgo
hey guys i was wondering what is the most "active" / "fun" server to play on in eu? doesnt matter if its pref , i wanna know both on light and chaos please
open coral
!action Synastry
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open coral
@lost sinew If I'm reading the spell description correctly, it looks like Synastry only affects single-target heals as cast. So for example, if you were to cast Benefic on the tank and it hit for 1000 HP (just to make the math easy here), Synastry would add 400 HP more healing for a total of 1400 HP healed.
Without seeing logs or exactly what you think you're seeing (or not seeing) when you're using Synastry in actual combat though, it's hard to say whether or not the ability is functioning as intended.
lost sinew
Yeah it doesn’t appear to do anything the description says it does
I’m in a raid right now I’ll try it out again
So I used it on the tank, then I used a single target heal over and over again on a nearby player and I never saw any healing hit the tank at all
wintry chasm
Well regens wouldn't really count for that
But it should at least work for the inital heal since you're using aspected benefic right?
wintry chasm
Do their health bars go up at all?
lost sinew
no
wintry chasm
lost sinew
will test again momentarily
open coral
It could just be the issue that I run into more often than I'd like where the tank takes exactly the same amount of damage as I'm healing.
So my healing feels like it's done nothing.
lost sinew
i tested it on a non-tank... with clear damage, and no incoming heals. did nothing
guess i’m gonna have to hop into a dungeon with some pals and test this under super controlled circumstances
already tried it with a party and target dummy
iron oracle
anyone has the link for cactbot
whole wasp
Just google it
obsidian patio
@lost sinew if you’re looking for Synastry’s heal as pop-up text it’s not like that, I’m pretty sure it appears as if someone else was healing the target with no text labelling the heal
whole wasp
It should be a github link
iron oracle
well idk why it pops up this
lost sinew
in that case i may have missed it because my most controlled conditions were against a target dummy - no one in the party had damage
good to know
didn’t see it in battle log either tho
whole wasp
either your cactbot is old or your ACT ffxiv plugin is old
i remember it was stated they dropped rainbowmage support?
might be this that is messing you up
since the error states rainbowmage
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rose rose
Is there any point in nocturnal and diurnal sect after hitting lv80 on ast
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rose rose
ooh, thanks
sturdy mason
Didn't FFXIV get first released and everyone complained about it, specifically the graphics
then they "redid" it
was that 1.0?
jade quartz
leaden ginkgo
Then they got a new director, Our Lord and Savior Yoshi. P and then nuked the landscape in game by Bae Hamut and made it better
viscid ridge
Any one want to offer some help in Aurum Vale?
I am a Blue Mage, just trying to get that skill from the boss...
Pls send help
little swift
Try #retired-na-datacenters or make a party finder
rugged crypt
Are there any behemoths besides the one in the FATE?
dry glade
Beast tribe quests reset at a specific time right? They don't reset 24 hours from your last quest...
rugged crypt
Isn't it in timers when it resets?
Duty > Timers > Next Beast Tribe Daily Quest Allowance
dry glade
just says todays remaining allowances, it doesn't say the time.
rugged crypt
Ah my bad thought it might when you ran out.
dry glade
I just do the pixie quests now, so don't run out.
junior yacht
raven sage
9 central
sturdy mason
I'm in central time. It's 10
dry glade
Thank you.
shell dagger
hi i have a stupid question - where do i get that light stick emote? is it already existing when you begin the game?
dry glade
Leveling guides keep saying that PotD is great for leveling. But I keep dying after spending 30 mins or more in there and getting zero exp. What is the second best way to exp?
shell dagger
^ i just the levelling duty roulette a lot. but then again, my alt job a healer, so it's a lot easier/faster for me
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obsidian patio
@shell dagger old seasonal reward, it’s on the mogstation now
dry glade
yea, for my tanks, I just do the daily main scenario and that's good for a level one.
shell dagger
boooooo, that's so disappointing to hear. it always makes me smile when i see someone use it towards the dungeon exit
thanks for the answer tho
wintry chasm
@sturdy mason Just going back to that I just want to mention that the graphics of 1.0 were amazing and that was kinda what people complained out. They prioritised the wrong things and made the game awful
rare sable
Sorry, whats min dps for hades first form?
frank roost
Hey is there any point to doing PvP, it takes like 30 minutes to get into game
wintry chasm
PvP has a number of exclusive rewards
that's about it
some game modes are fun though imo
frank roost
I wanted to just get my fashion up, not sure how else though as the market is kinda overpriced
wintry chasm
go to other servers and check their prices
otherwise try to get a friend to make you it/buy the mats and give them to your friend
etc
dry glade
If you want the fashon items, just do the daily duty for a few days and you'll gets lots of marks.
frank roost
@dry glade where can i use them?
dry glade
Wolfs den, inside the building is a bunch of vendors.
IIRC, most of the items are 50+ glamours.
radiant brook
what are squadron missions and how can i get them?
obsidian patio
They’re basically missions you can use to level up your squadron. You unlock them when you reach 2nd Lieutenant in your grand company
radiant brook
thanks
lusty jungle
is it like a every 12 hour thing?
obsidian patio
Squadron missions are 16 hours long IIRC
lusty jungle
i meant the FC buffs sorry
obsidian patio
24 hours long
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proper lake
How much do crafters receive or expect to receive as a tip if they craft free of charge with provided mats?
proper lake
Well, it is supposed to be optional thing, but was wondering if there was accepted amount so to speak
rare sable
If it's free, then it's free
Cause crafter have a skill called reuse, if you give them expensive mats and it procs, it's free item for them
Though theres no harm in asking/discussing first if you want troublesome/bulk manual craft (like huge number of leve-kits or facet HQ)
manic oasis
what is the level 60 dragoon rotation
leaden ginkgo
just alternate your main combos
botd will slowly lose time but you can use the skill again to refresh it
untold ermine
So how is the XP from Trusts? I am about to start the grind with DNC from 71 to 80 and I already beat the MSQ with DRK so....also, as a DPS what should my main Trust Group be? Thancred and....?
leaden ginkgo
exp from trusts is the same as regular dungeons, the runs are just slow
dim ridge
but no dps queue
manic oasis
what do i do with the jumps though
leaden ginkgo
trust group doesn't matter much, thancred and ryne work together somewhat but its a very tiny bonus
dim ridge
- working towards the achievement of fully max leveled trust npcs
leaden ginkgo
jumps just use on cd
make sure you don't weave a jump with any other skill though
or you'll clip because they have double the regular animation lock
manic oasis
okay 🙂 im still tryiing to figure him out lol can you like tell me which action1 --> action 2 --> etc etc? 😮 ❤️
untold ermine
@leaden ginkgo they did seem slower when I was MSQing, but not prohibitively so, tbh.
Then again, I was the tank then
And I wont be this time
proper junco
anyone know how to get the tea pot monk weapon?
leaden ginkgo
I can't promise to spit out an optimal L60 drg rotation off the top of my head
But use blood of the dragon prepull, start with your chaos thrust combo, use litany and lance charge early, and use jump first before spineshatter dive so you can build toward life of the dragon asap
and use life surge on full thrust
try to use geirskogul and your jumps while litany and lance charge are active
trusts take around 30 minutes per dungeon... I've heard as a tank you can push them as fast as 26-27 sometimes but personally I'd rather just do 15-20 minute runs with real people and do fates or shitpost on reddit while in queue
obsidian patio
@proper junco you need to complete a Zodiac Weapon all the way to Zeta and then start the quest “Kettle to the Mettle” from Jalzahn
You may also need to do the quest “The Vital Title” from Jalzahn
manic oasis
thanks A Pile of Cats ❤️ 😄
proper junco
ty
languid kernel
Is ffxiv ending? I'm seeing stuff being said as if Shadowbringers is the last xpac
zinc orbitBOT
whole wasp
Latest expansion
green grail
it's not
whole wasp
And no, they confirmed that are already working on the next expansion.
languid kernel
ah ok that makes me feel better
green grail
they already announced the fanfests for 2020/2021 where they'll talk about the next expansion
in about a year
leaden ginkgo
just did the final dungeon and got nothing. : ( how do I replay dungeons with trust?
green grail
"duty" from the bubble menu's -> trust, but if you already completed the msq with the dungeon you need to have them leveled
green grail
you got goetia, and artifact gear from the last zone is enough for lvl 80 dungeons, so finish msq, unlock the twinning and academia anyder and do those, get more goetia and buy i440 gear with tomes
dungeon drops aren't very important
leaden ginkgo
hmm, alright
crude relic
What stat should I be going for as RDM? I honestly forgot after playing DRK for a year before taking a break lmfao
little swift
your gear will give you the correct primary stats
for minmaxing in regards to melds
!faq balance
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crude relic
In HW and SB? I thought that was a thing they just introduced in ShB. On a new toon after switching servers cuz no money for a transfer >.<
little swift
yeah they stopped doing "disciple of magic/war" gear
you look for RDM/BLM/SMN equippable stuff
obsidian patio
And for HW accessories you take Casting stuff since accessories only start being role-locked past 60
crude relic
Awesomesaucers, do we have the craftable SB primal stuff yet? I haven't been keeping up with the patches so idk if the glowy awesome gear for SB Primal glams is here yet.
upbeat storm
is there a way to turn off chocobo music when riding
green grail
system config - sound settings - play music when mounted
upbeat storm
ty
crude relic
Damn, I wanna see what the glowy stuff for Susano and Tsukuyomi looks like but it looks like I'll have to wait >.< Also(last question, promise) what's the least amount of players needed for SB Ex Primals these days? Has Doggo farming gotten easier?
obsidian patio
A light party is probably enough for the first few assuming mechanics don’t require more players
Though going for a full party is probably best as it lets you skip more mechanics and clear faster
crude relic
Mmk, hopefully I can get the doggo I've been wanting sooner than later then.
hoary storm
Archaic Enchanted Ink and Pneumites only appear on the NPC when you reach that part of the quest?
fresh lodge
I believe so
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formal fulcrum
Hey everyone so I just got my zenith weapons for paladin but the Jalzahn quest isn't proccing for me does anyone know the solution?
obsidian patio
Check the Side Story section of the quest journal and see if you have the quest “Up in Arms” complete
idle salmon
is it safe to read up on the things that happened before ARR
does it spoil post-ARR?
i mean
post-HW
obsidian wren
No
crude relic
Anything before ARR shouldn't spoil post anything in the game as far as I know but I would still be wary about what you read.
obsidian wren
The pre arr story doesn't really impact anything after arr
crude relic
If I remember right it only explains why no one in ARR remembers the OG Warriors of Light and that's about it. I could be wrong though.
obsidian wren
And it gives a lot of context for the bahamut raid
But stuff like the gridania arc in 1.0 doesnt affect anything in arr at all afaik
lethal sentinel
no one can remember them bc bad reviews
leaden ginkgo
The real reason nobody remembers the WoLs at Cartenau is because they can't put a lot of details into what player characters who may or may not also be your character did
lethal sentinel
1.0 content might spoil one major plot twist, but it's a major plot twist that happens in optional content that no one runs anymore
so like
go for it
lethal sentinel
1.0 would spoil the fact that ||Louisoix was tempered by Bahamut||
But that only comes up if you play Final Coil
Which no one runs anymore
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untold ermine
So...what, exactly are “Shared FATEs for?
obsidian patio
They're a thing in Shadowbringers zones where completing fates in those zones give a currency to spend at each zone's vendor on things like furniture, orchestrion rolls, materia, and monster materials
said vendors selling more stuff as you level them up by completing fates in their zone with a gold ranking
pearl wharf
i forgot but how does one unlock allagan tomestones
lethal sentinel
Finish ARR MSQ through Praetorium
obsidian patio
Technically, you don't need to do anything to unlock tomestones themselves, you just need to unlock content that gives it.
pearl wharf
trying to help a friend
obsidian patio
which for Tomestones of Poetics is level 50/60/70 content
agile gorge
For the quest It's Probably Pirates, what exactly do people do if there's no one doing it atm
fresh lodge
Just keep waiting
sudden timber
does NIN has the most RNG compared to other melee dps?
untold ermine
What do you guys think about the DRK playstyle as of Shadowbringers? Seems more resource management than anything? Lots of Ogcds though, which I kinda like..
obsidian patio
I like it, though the opener uses a bit too much double-weaving for my taste/ping
Though it feels very boring to play in level 50 content
deep pier
Anyone know the right channel to contact Square? I tried submitted a support ticket but got this generic email sent back to me that had nothing to do with my issue. Having an issue with retainer boost I got on the mogstation.. dm me or mention me here plz
obsidian patio
What issue are you having exactly?
deep pier
I recently purchased a Lvl 70 Retainer Boosting Potion for my main character Nytefoxx, However, when I try to use the boost potion it says,'You can only advance your retainer as far as level 61, to match your current level.' My current level on my main toon is level 70 , this doesn't make any sense.
rare sable
Your specific job's class?
deep pier
Dancer/BLM
untold ermine
Retainer boost? Thats a thing??
deep pier
Yeah
fresh lodge
Yes
twilit arch
and what class is the retainer?
rare sable
You can only have, say, lvl 70 sch retainer if your sch is at 70+
fresh lodge
You can't use your Dancer level since you can only boost a base class
dim ridge
so if you're trying to boost a gatherer or combat job that you don't have up to 70...
fresh lodge
Unless you already have it on Dancer
rare sable
If your sch at 60 and your blm at 80, you can only have 60 sch retainer
fresh lodge
Which requires 60 so...
untold ermine
Where does one get one of those?
obsidian patio
mogstation
fresh lodge
Mogstation
untold ermine
Ah. Eh,. Nevermind then
deep pier
Just trying to boost the retainer to 70 but it didn't say there were any restrictions as far as classes. And DNC isn't considered a limited class, right? I guess I'll just finish leveling my BLM to 70 then. I stopped halfway leveling him, and I'm maining DNC rn.
zinc orbitBOT
fresh lodge
Getting BLM to 70 would be the easiest
twilit arch
the retainer boost still has the normal retainer rules applied to it
Your retainer can only go as high as you are in that class/job
deep pier
Yeah, well thanks for the info I wasn't aware DNC isn't a main class. Like I know they don'
Dont have relic weps and stuff
But thought it was now canon lol
fresh lodge
Its not that it isn't a main class
Its because its only a job and doesn't have a base class
deep pier
And I am relatively new, so I appreciate your answers.
rare sable
? They just dont add relic backward...
fresh lodge
You wouldn't be able to boost to any of the expansion jobs
deep pier
Gotcha 😦 alright well so the base classes are just the ones from ARR?
obsidian patio
yep
dim ridge
ARR + ninja iirc?
fresh lodge
Well Rogue but yes
deep pier
Ah
wish they would make it apart of a base class just for feature wise .. but makes sense
rare sable
Guys, what other classes are wrist friendly? Currently I have sch, whm, rdm, blm, (raising war)
deep pier
Like ergonomic wise?
rare sable
Slow gcd and not many double weaving
deep pier
@@fresh lodge thanks for ur help
fresh lodge
o/
whole wasp
Blm is pretty straightforward
rare sable
Mmm, I have the 4 (+1) I mentioned
But cant seem to find another one... or does it not exists?
obsidian patio
Dragoon feels somewhat friendly on the wrists besides the opener
rare sable
Ooo, thanks wynne :3
dusty hemlock
Just hit 80, now what?
obsidian patio
Assuming this is your first job to 80, Complete the role quest series relevant to your job to unlock your level 80 job gearset and to be able to complete the story.
dusty hemlock
Yeah I just got my role quest blue 430 gear
Finishing msq now. 10 quests left
Then what
forest gazelle
and then start doing Eden's Gate and Copied Factory 
dusty hemlock
Ty
obsidian patio
After you beat up the final boss trial, you can unlock The Twinning (Crystarium) and Akadaemia Anyder (Eulmore) to run for Goetia/Phantasmagoria along with i430 accessories
forest gazelle
that too
lethal sentinel
Fishing
zinc orbitBOT
frosty badger
why cant we start specific act in blue mage carnivole?
green grail
you need to do the first few but then you get all of them, i think
actually no, i remember azulmagia was the first one i ever did
so, should be able to
whole wasp
26-30 maybe?
frosty badger
i selected act 3 but they forced me to 1
green grail
you need to have done 25 to get 26-30 yeah
frosty badger
with azulmagia
green grail
oh, well yeah acts are parts of one stage
need to do them all
that's just how it works
frosty badger
sucks
whole wasp
Do then all in one sitting in order
green grail
you can select them to see what enemies will appear with weaknesses and stuff
frosty badger
i keep dying on act 3
green grail
!faq bluguide
zinc orbitBOT
green grail
has some carnival guides
frosty badger
using loom is broken
green grail
you should have time to hardcast 2 looms, or hardcast one and swiftcast the next one
cause you need 2 to get out of the aoe
whole wasp
Sprint helps too
green grail
not really, considering you're bound and can't move except for loom 
green grail
if you want to play blu then yeah, since you need it for the blu log and further challenges, allied seals blu vendor etc
honest ocean
How difficult is it to get a dyeable version of single piece of artifact 4 right now?
frosty badger
so there is no way to start act 3 if i acts 1 and 2 are already finished?
honest ocean
Are u talking about getting perfect blue?
twilit arch
Currently, AF4 is not augmentable to be dyed
fresh lodge
You need to do all 3 acts in one go
honest ocean
There are video guides for it that u can easily follow .. it’s easy once u understand his moves since they never change
@twilit arch like at all? U need Eureka right? Is Eureka gone or something?
twilit arch
no, eureka is for af3
twilit arch
its not really all that difficult, eureka got pretty nerfed. the main issues is going to be whether you've got levels already or not
deep pier
How do I get back to Norvrandt? I don't have any aether points. Reddit said MorDhana but am not finding ferry
leaden ginkgo
Rough estimate... how long does the Anima weapon take to get to max?
You need to go into the crystal crack thing in mordhona, Bubble
honest ocean
I’ve got levels? I have multiple level 80 characters with 460+ ilvl
twilit arch
levels in eureka
honest ocean
Is that what you mean?
deep pier
I think im there blue crystal around me
honest ocean
Oh
fresh lodge
Eureka has its own levelling system
twilit arch
it has its own leveling system so your outside level doesn't matter that much
rich bay
Eureka is synced to L70@i300 and has a different leveling system.
(Elemental Levels)
rare sable
Your gear does kinda matter though...? If you dont/havent over ilvl it that is
honest ocean
ok i’ll read a guide or something for it .. but approx how long will it take starting from 0 to get a single piece of gear augmented like head for example
fresh lodge
There should be an NPC near the lake that'll take you to the trench @deep pier
twilit arch
no, gear doesn't matter that much since you're sync to i300 anyway
rare sable
The most difficult part about eureka is finding a party for it...
twilit arch
you dont need a party for it
rich bay
There is special i300 eureka gear, but only useful if you want to complete the content.
fresh lodge
You can solo it now with the echo buff
deep pier
@fresh lodge dont see one...i'm on Primal/Famfrit if anyone can show me D:
rare sable
Mmmmh solo is "well you can"
But dont expect fast leveling/protean gathering when solo
idle salmon
do FATEs spawn when you're around
fresh lodge
Levelling and Protean farming is easy since you can solo NMs
idle salmon
just curious xd
deep pier
Is it the gatekeeper on the map
fresh lodge
Fates in general or Eureka?
honest ocean
Im mostly concerned about the time investment .. is it gonna take me days? 10+ hours? I can get 1 or 2 friends to help
deep pier
im here
twilit arch
how long it takes you is entirely based on how willing you are to grind
fresh lodge
Bottom left
twilit arch
you could probably do it in a day if you really wanted to
frosty badger
I can't seem to understand "Enable auto-target when no target specified." option
rare sable
my elemental lvl 8 died even before reaching NMs...
fresh lodge
Near the Keeper of the Lake entrance
honest ocean
Oh nice
deep pier
okay!
frosty badger
it means it auto targets when player is hit?
rare sable
2 hrs solo grind only get me 2 levels and 23 protean or so....
It's really.... an uphill battle to solo eureka...
honest ocean
I get it taking a lot of grinding for anemos weapons and the special gear .. but it taking a lot of grinding even for a single piece is putting me off
rare sable
Mmmh they say that, starting eureka is hard, but when you're leveled, its easy to farm
honest ocean
Looks like that jetblack dyed augmented artifact sam chest will have to wait
@twilit arch thx for help and everyone
deep pier
i hope they release DNC relic weapons in 5.2
frosty badger
so?
fresh lodge
So what?
mortal root
is there a calamity salvager is norvrandt?
fresh lodge
No, only the starting 3 cities
mortal root
oke ty
zinc orbitBOT
untold ermine
If you enjoy Dark Knight as a tank would you also enjoy Warrior?
green grail
probably, it's focused on gauge management too, probably a bit simpler because no mp management
delirium is inner release, bloodspiller is fell cleave
sudden timber
are all tanks 3-combo class?
green grail
no they all have slightly different combo trees, drk is the only one with exclusively a 123 combo
warrior has storm's path and storm's eye as 3rd, so it's more like a 12[3a/3b] combo
untold ermine
DRK also has more OGCD offensive skills though, yesh?
green grail
pld has 12[3a/3b] too but royal authority grants 3 stacks which let you use another gcd 3 times
obsidian patio
I think GNB technically has more due to Continuation
green grail
yeah gnb has the most ogcds, but drk is probably close because of the tbn procs
untold ermine
GNB was cool, just a little “busy” for my taste, if that make sense. Plus I prefer resource management to strict rotation
green grail
yeah warrior's basically that then
rare sable
War is distilled into a single button...
It's basically fitting as much fell cleave as you can within the window
Like drk... and gnb... but 1 button x'D
untold ermine
I enjoyed the Blood Gauge and MP management from DRK.
green grail
it's 5 fell cleaves in inner release when it's available, same as bloodspillers in a delirium
warrior's kinda like drk but without the mp
untold ermine
But with Bloodspiller you weave ogcds inbetween them,. Same with WAR?
rare sable
You only weave... 2...?
untold ermine
I see.
rare sable
It could be considered as the simplest tank rotation wise 
untold ermine
So the main difference is flavor, and how they generate their damage buff.
DRK through an ogcd, WAR through the main combo ender.
green grail
yeah, and warrior cooldowns feel a bit different since you get lifeseal for 3gcds
untold ermine
??
green grail
yep
except for drk it's not really about keeping up the buff, since you want to spam blade of shadow basically as often as you can, not having to care about overwriting the buff
and warrior you basically want to refresh on the last combo possible without it falling off
rare sable
War have the best self sustainability... which according to my raider friend, is "great cause pub healer is xxx"
green grail
ehh wouldn't really say so, definitely depends on the content and even then, pld probably wins with clemency and hallowed ground over short-duration long-cooldown lifesteal and holmgang
heavy oracle
Hey 🙂 short question...
Do you lose your airship when you relocate the fc house?
green grail
don't believe you do
fresh lodge
You don't, your whole workshop is carried over
heavy oracle
Alright ty
mortal root
can i play bard in pvp if im lvl 1 at it in pve
mortal root
oke
untold ermine
Thinking I might boost WAR next time I get paid.
mortal root
if i discard tomestone gear i cant get it back can i
green grail
no, need to repurchase, or submit an item recovery ticket but it's limited at one item per account, ever, so might wanna save it for something more important than a bit of tome farming
untold ermine
So Aesthetically, WAR or DRK? which just flat out looks the coolest? 😁😁😁
Animations and what not
dim ridge
drk imho
viral scroll
hi uhm been a long time since i played.. is there a lvl 70 crafter beast tribe? or do crafting/gathering just continue doing namazu/moogles daily
viral scroll
ah. i see cool. so the pixie one is battle based?
dim ridge
iirc the next beast tribe is either crafter or gatherer, but not both. can't recall off the top of my head and yes! pixies are combat
super cute questline too, 10/10 would do again on an alt
twilit arch
the next one is going to be gatherer
dim ridge
ty!! wasn't sure
viral scroll
thanks again
mortal root
do i have to assign combos in pvp instead of the seperate abilities
fresh lodge
Yep
zinc orbitBOT
trail fjord
would I be able to swap 2 of my character's servers IE
mateus > behemoth
behemoth < mateus
(mateus is congested but I have a character on it that I don't use and would like to swap it with my main)
and also I want to leave primal and maybe go to crystal or aether but don't really know which server to join. I want something fairly populated so I won't be lonely 😔
dim ridge
can transfer OFF but not to
glad pewter
Is scaeven gear enough to go through level 70 to 80 content?
glad pewter
oh cool
green grail
i tanked gulg in scaevan and it wasn't thaaat bad but definitely helps to know what you're doing and how good your healer is etc
glad pewter
I imagine having the best gear possible always is even more important for tanks
green grail
yeah definitely helps a lot
glad pewter
Is upgraded ironworks enough for a tank from 50 to 60? Worried about my paladin now lol
Cant remember if dungeons drop better gear than ironworks
green grail
dungeon gear from 53+ should be better
glad pewter
Nice, hope I get lucky with those drops
green grail
you get a guaranteed piece you don't yet have to inventory at the end of the dungeon
open coral
You won't be hurting if you don't replace some of your augmented Ironworks (or Shire, or Scaevan) gear before you hit the next level cap, but it's better to have the dungeon gear than not
green grail
so can just repeat the dungeon for more leveling gear
open coral
I have 100% gone full expansion ranges as healer using entirely augmented gear.
It's not ideal, but it does work.
glad pewter
Didn't know about that guaranteed piece, that's interesting
As a bard I went from 50 to 60 easily with ironworks
open coral
The guaranteed piece only applies to HW and later leveling dungeons.
glad pewter
But as paladin I maybe should worry more about gear, let's see
open coral
It was only applied to SB dungeons at first, but they added it to HW dungeons when ShB released.
twilit arch
no...
glad pewter
That's great
twilit arch
it was with hw and sb dungeons in sb
open coral
I definitely did not get obligatory gear drops in HW
green grail
it's here now who cares about the patch history 
twilit arch
didn't say in hw, it was a feature that was added in sb but applied to both leveling dungeons of hw and sb
zinc orbitBOT
little needle
in "Alexander Arm of the Father" why did the illuminati leader ||shoot his own spy?||
wintry chasm
||well ya know, Quickthinks is not a nice guy, IIRC that spy was an Idyllshire goblin and I guess he was just being used. There wasn't really a massive reason to shot him except being a dick afaik||
boreal aurora
if i sub after midnight it counts this day right
boreal aurora
didnt it count the day
so if u sub at 0.01 it counts the new day
someone said it doesnt count exact time iirc
mortal root
whyyyy 😭
scarlet arrow
because FFXIV pvp is a joke?
hoary storm
Frontline around this time never pops
fresh lodge
Its also 9am on a work day
mortal root
would i be better off doing a different pvp mode for now then
fresh lodge
No PvP is going to pop this early
twilit arch
not really considering pvp is pretty niche at as a whole
twilit arch
so the best time to queue for pretty much any pvp mode is during prime time
boreal aurora
its a pve mmo 😔
fresh lodge
Your best bet would be to try prime time which is 7pm+
PvP is popular enough, but anything is going to have issue finding a queue this early in the morning
mortal root
xd the struggles of living in the uk playing on na servers
boreal aurora
why would u play on na if you are in eu
mortal root
because i only have na friends+i dont like the general eu playerbase
gleaming bay
Generally, when is an appropriate amount of time to kick someone from an FC for being offline without notice?
@boreal aurora It does it by hours from when you sub
wintry chasm
What Zero?
Very sure it doesn't
I don't really know how the time works with timezones but theoretically yes Chip
I wouldn't go so close to midnight just to be safe
I think it's JST midnight
fresh lodge
Its definitely not counted by hours
slow crypt
there is no standard for kicking people off FC for inactivity
it's up to you
people have many reasons to stop playing but that doesn't mean they will stop playing forever.
green grail
your fc your ruler 
fresh lodge
If you wanted to maximize your sub time, then you might want to sub just after JST Midnight
But its not well known what time the day ticks over
slow crypt
I'd go on a case-by-case basis, often people will tell you if they stop playing for a set amount of time for reasons.
gleaming bay
Mm, thank you.
And apologies for any misinformation, it's what an Fc member passed along to me.
leaden ginkgo
DRK start as lvl 30 or 50?
flint parcel
how does the comeback campaign are able to do it from your free company log or do u have to be friend ingame
work**
friends**
green grail
need to be friends ingame, right click someone on the list and there's an option for it
swift cradle
Does anyone know who Zurvan's English VA is? I cannot find it anywhere.
zinc orbitBOT
short jasper
It's probably one of the 'Additional Voices'
wintry chasm
Yeah
languid kernel
is there a way to stop the dungeon finder from moving me to the entrace at the end of some dungeons?
green grail
nope, it's not really duty finder itself, it's the dungeon unlock quest
next time you queue it won't happen
languid kernel
ah ok thank you
weak flume
To those who have houses: Is there an interior item like a vase or planter I can use to put my seeds in? Or is that an outdoor thing only?
green grail
there's flower pots, you can plant seeds but can't crossbreed
weak flume
crossbreed?
green grail
if you plant correct seeds in a cross-pattern layout on the outdoor gardening plots then you can get extra/exclusive/rare seeds when gathering
weak flume
Oh
green grail
it's a whole rabbit hole of sidecontent and filling a market niche you could make millions on
but if you just wanna plant seeds then yeah there's a few flower pots and vases
weak flume
I just have seeds taking up space in my retainer's storage. I finally got a room in my FC's estate, so I thought I could finally use them
slow crypt
you would need the ok from your FC to plant them in the garden if they have one
but you cant have a garden indoors
you would need your own house if you want your own garden
appartments dont have outdoor space
weak flume
The garden is for our Cafe
I'm...not really interested in a full on house at the moment, though it might change.
slow crypt
it's ok
weak flume
I just wanted to know if I could have something inside to plant my seeds in.
raven sage
Vis just said there are pots why are you saying no
weak flume
raven sage
You can though
whole wasp
just cant crossbreed
weak flume
"You can plant anything in the flowerpots, but they cannot intercross"
^ from the oasis pot
lost sinew
Does anyone know which is more efficient? Level 46 SCH wanting to hit 50 before Monday... out of rest. Highest-level dungeon vs. POTD spam? I'm assuming 3 more leveling roulettes might not quite be enough...
whole wasp
prob dungeon spam for healer
raven sage
Yeah
lost sinew
👍
Guess I'll wait and see what daily roulettes with daily rest gain will do, though. Might hit 50... maybe.
magic vapor
Is mining, carpenter, or other jobs is an must to do or optional?
lost sinew
optional
raven sage
Optional
lost sinew
and not particularly lucrative unless you level... all of them, in my experience
(leveled BTN and WVR to 80 only to find i couldn't make much money due to having to buy so many mats rather than make/gather them myself)
magic vapor
Okay then
lost sinew
they are kinda zen and fun tho
especially gathering
and you can make a light profit just selling whatever you gather
or a small fortune if you find out exactly what you can gather that's worth a lot.
are there any PC mods similar to auctioneer for wow? figuring out what's valuable and what's not seems pretty challenging without loading up the mobile app every time.
"oh look a rare spawn tree! i bet that's worth... crap, nothing."
sinful breach
wdym? you can check it's worth through the companion app by setting up the price to the item and check the market board prices through it
wintry chasm
You just have to have experience
lost sinew
yeah, suppose so
i found a site that supposedly told you what sold like hotcakes on your server for a decent price, but it's data was hopelessly inaccurate.
i guess if you're an omnicrafter you just look to see what sells for a lot that can be made using purely gathered materials... and then just convert your time into money
rich bay
There are lots of crafters that just buy the materials and make the crafts they sell for a profit.
That is way faster, but requires a lot of gil beforehand.
lost sinew
it also requires you to calculate whether the total materials cost is lower than the sell price; that's where i gave up
items that take like 8 different mats to make
bought/sold in different quantities. blah.
i have 7 million gil tho so capital is not really an issue. i'm just not willing to do all the MB research and math to find something i can reliably buy mats for and sell at a profit. #lazy i guess
rich bay
It is pretty easy, but i agree with you.
lost sinew
i couldn't find an item that sold for a high price that had a short list of mats
if i'd found that, i probably wouldn't have given up
instead i just send my retainers on quick ventures all the time and greed everything in dungeons. i got all my crafters to 30 so i can desynth all the things 🙂
rich bay
It is normal that end-game crafts needs a lot of materials.
@lost sinew, a tip. Maybe you should level CUL and ALC, they make raid potions and raid food. (And yes, many only use 3-5 mats.)
Those sell fast, but for farely low prices, so it is fast money. (Not not in large amounts in short time.)
lost sinew
yeah i heard that after i leveled WVR to 80 😦
i've had that same advice from others
if/when i feel like leveling a crafter again i will follow that advice
or when i feel like paying someone for a levekit
my problem was i followed the wow concept: "I'm a white mage so I should be a weaver!"
#fail
twilit arch
I think this conversation should continue either in #general-discussion or #doh-dol-lounge
rich bay
Yup, i agree.
(I was helping though.)
lost sinew
apologies </end>
rose rose
Any way to make summoner less awkward to play with controller? Manually swapping tabs is a pain,,
For now I just disabled the pet hotbar entirely
strong citrus
It's a pretty busy class, so it has a lot of button bloat for controller users.
rose rose
Better question would be how much would I need to use the pet hotbar
twilit arch
since they tied the pet abilities to egi assaults, there's not much need to have the pet hotbar enabled
little walrus
Fellow ASTs, what sect do you generally run solo? Coming from WHM i feel better with diurnal, but am i cucking myself?
twilit arch
generally, diurnal is the more efficient of the two sects
fresh lodge
I prefer Diurnal for solo content and single healer parties
little walrus
good to know, so only noct for trials with a WHM?
zinc orbitBOT
twilit arch
in easy content it doesn't really matter too much, both sects are fine. It mostly comes down to which one is more comfortable for you
ehh, you don't have to
diurnal stacks with whm regens. so unless your party really needs to the shields, you can stick with diurnal
little walrus
ah, good to know
twilit arch
sch, you should be diurnal and with another ast, you get to play chicken with them who's going to go diurnal and who's noct
little walrus
do shields stack with a sch?
twilit arch
they do not
little walrus
ok, next question, after doing myt roulettes, is it better to do the highest dungeon i can access, or continue with one of the roulettes?
twilit arch
do the highest level dungeon
except when you hit 50/60/70. do the 49/59/69 dungeons until you hit 51/61/71
little walrus
is 50/60/70 roulette bad?
twilit arch
the 50/60/70 dungeons don't give good experience so generally don't want to do them when you hit those levels
lost sinew
@little walrus i always use diurnal
unless there's a whm in the group
50/60/70 is a fun way to randomly get thrown into dungeons you have unlocked but not completed, though
lost sinew
for xp my order of operations is MSQ (if i can stomach it), leveling, alliance raid
generally i do MSQ if i also have use for poetics.
little walrus
honestly if they offered a free monthly sub if i ran 1 MSQ every other month...
id still not run it
lost sinew
lol. it's a crapton of xp. i watch netflix while doing it.
lost sinew
trust me. you can heal in MSQ roulette and do netflix simultaneously lol
yeah. it's supremely boring.
little walrus
and its always the same damn dungeon with cid talking forever and rididng the mech
lost sinew
😆
it's definitely for rewards, not for fun. to me, 500 poetics and 1/2 - 1 full level is generally worth it, since i'm always leveling and always saving up poetics for anima quests.
lost sinew
^
wintry chasm
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
little walrus
oh speaking of those special weapons, is there a way to check what i need to do next if im part-way through one butt totally forgot where i am
lost sinew
i rely on consolegameswiki
little walrus
ive got like the 2nd or 3rd stage of the WHM lvl 50 one, but no clue what to do
little walrus
theres too damn much to do in this game
its great!
lost sinew
it has a shortlist of everything you can stockpile with poetics.
YES.
oh actually i sent you a link for level 60. sorry.
the level 50 ones are more trouble than they're worth, to me
atma farming. kill me.
@little walrus are you aware of Palace of the Dead / Heaven on High?
(sidenote: are you only leveling healers/tanks, or also DPS?)
little swift
consolegameswiki is outdated in certain parts
lost sinew
yeah it is
but it helps me far more often than it hurts me, personally. i go to gamerescape if consolegameswiki fails me.
little swift
but for the most part using it in conjunction with the gamerescape wiki is ok
lost sinew
ya, that.
consolegameswiki is a little cleaner on the phone, where i'm normally looking at stuff. gamerescape's layout/theme is really busy and hard to read sometimes.
silk burrow
Why do I lose health/mana when I change classes
lost sinew
gear
little swift
gear discrepancy
silk burrow
oh
little swift
/\
little walrus
@lost sinew leveling ast atm, trying to hit 60 so i can trash all the healer stuff i have pre-shire (since my sch/smn is 60, and my whm is my main)
lost sinew
WHM/AST 80, leveling SCH myself 🙂
ok if you're doing a healer and you've done all the roulettes you want/should do, and you want more xp, conventional wisdom says best option is to run the highest-level dungeon you have access to (presuming that's close to your level). alternatively, you can do palace of the dead floors um... 51-60
if you've unlocked that.
(i keep all my augmented 50/60/70 poetic gear in my glamour dresser)
little walrus
yea both of my saves are locked to solo runs atm so no potd for me
lost sinew
aaaaah
then yeah, best xp is to q for highest level dungeon you've got and pop some food
it'll be most effective if you have rest built up
that's exactly how i'm leveling SCH atm 56-60 for monday
little swift
potd runs are often considered better for dps because they get lower queues but its not like you can't do them on healer/tanks
lower queues in comparison to highest levelling dungeoon*
lost sinew
yeah but i think the xp from killing mobs + bonus at end of dungeon far outweights what you get for your time from potd
but yeah that's why i asked if kit was doing a dps class
little swift
you'd definitely go insane doing that repeatedly
little walrus
yea ive never liked potd for xp
little swift
up until lvl61
lost sinew
yeah then you go to heaven on high 🙂
little walrus
ive never done hoh simply because ive sat in queue for 3 hrs and never gotten in
lost sinew
ouch
little walrus
should prob do it solo fro fun
lost sinew
party finder can help with that
i used party finder to get through potd 31-40 with my 3-person fam
little swift
once you hit 70 though pixie beast tribe is easy like 5-7 mil for like 5 minutes of work
lost sinew
yaaaas ❤️ pixie
little walrus
yea i was in the queue for 3 hrs like a week ago lol
lost sinew
party finder
little walrus
...?
little swift
yeah people really only queue for floors 21-30
lost sinew
there's a manual party finder in the game
little walrus
are we not talking about the queue thing
lost sinew
nope
little walrus
there is?
lost sinew
duty finder = automatic
little walrus
wtf lol
lost sinew
party finder = kind of like a board you post on in-game saying " i want to finish hoh 1-30 come with me"
and other people who also need that or are just nice will join up
it's under... your party menu iirc
and yes it is one of the most fabulous under-appreciated features of the game
i've had to use it a ton because i'm such a masochist healer i even have a BLU healer at 60
and BLU can't use duty finder 🙂
little swift
its not super advertised by the game so its not uncommon that not everyone knows about it
lost sinew
yeah it's kind of sad really because you can accomplish all sorts of things with it that are otherwise not easy
like unsyncing old dungeons/raids
little walrus
this window? holy shit i never knew this was here
lost sinew
that's player search
you want "party finder"
player search is under social
party finder is under party iirc
little walrus
oh shit
lost sinew
i'm not in game atm so having a hard time remembering menu structure
little walrus
thats even better lol
little swift
you're correct tho
lost sinew
you can also have it PING YOU based on search results
so set up a search
and say "ping me every 5 minutes to see if there's a group forming"
minor moth
Alright, I'm doing a savage raid tonight and I've never done one before. I just don't understand what a Raid macro is. Can people help?
little swift
the raid macros essentially ping the strat out in chat before you start
positions of where people should be for certain mechanics
little walrus
is this sort of thing legit, or illegal spam?
little swift
you generally call out which role you're gonna be
lost sinew
@little walrus legit, i think... questionable, but legit
lost sinew
and yeah party finder gets used for weird stuff like that too
also for people selling levekits and talking about their open houses
if it doesn't list a specific duty, you can ignore it
minor moth
So how do you choose what role you pick (Like D1, D2, ect) Does the game track it automatically and you just know it or what
little walrus
what is TEA (i assume an acronym)
lost sinew
the eternal? alexander ultimate raid?
twilit arch
the Epic of Alexander
lost sinew
ah, there ya go
twilit arch
its one of the ultimate raids, which are the hardest fights in the game
lost sinew
i don't do any of the really hard stuff >.>
little swift
no people just call out which one they are going to be and they hopefully don't forget mid raid
minor moth
So if Im DRG then I can be D4?
I thought it was determined by Job or something (Melee, Ranged then Caster)
lost sinew
i did not know raid macros were a thing, so this is fascinating
little swift
im a little rusty on these forgive me
lost sinew
needs to get his FC to take him to some hard stuff for giggles
minor moth
And that's why I suddenly started raiding!
lost sinew
they keep asking me to but i've reached a point in my life where i refuse to have MMO raid commitments on my calendar
wintry chasm
Yeah D just means DPS
little walrus
lol Rune, im the same way
little swift
as in the 4 you have in full party
little walrus
quit mythic wow raiding because sticking to a schedule at this point is meh
wintry chasm
I don't really have context but if your macro says to have a D1 D2 D3 D4 you just pick it yourself
little walrus
but then i pick up this game and immediately am seeking out how to parse higher, and watching strats for ultimates
wintry chasm
You assign different DPS as those
Sometimes macros and guides recommend having melee and ranged in different places so instead of D you might have, say, M1 and M2 and R1 and R2
for melee and ranged
lost sinew
@little walrus you're more committed than me. i just endlessly level alts and unsync old content for novelty items.