🍥｜anime

[wet elm]

what model is that? the style looks really sharp

[gloomy scroll]

Nai

[wet elm]

oh it makes sense lol

[unkempt cape]

imagine asking "what model is this?"
of course it would always be nai 😭

[ivory pebble]

Yup 😭

[brittle rampart]

why "always"?

[zinc flax]

Because nai sweeps

[ivory pebble]

Real

[brittle rampart]

don't even know.

[ivory pebble]

It's hard to explain but NAI just has such a good base style, and the fact that it's able to mix artists together puts it on a whole different level in terms of aesthetics

[brittle rampart]

and if we abstract from the binding of artists.

[zinc flax]

If we don't use any artist tags it would look like any other pony merge lol

Unironically

[ivory pebble]

Even then I find it to be better than Pony 😭, cause it can actually do anime

[brittle rampart]

so... in the end it just turns out to be a Pony?

[zinc flax]

It's the best model atm

[ivory pebble]

Pretty much

[ivory pebble]

It depends, there are things Pony does better but for actual anime NAI is much better

[brittle rampart]

I'll take your word for it. I'm very far from the standards of real Anime. But I like the style of manga and anime in general. and that's enough for me. Whether it will be done in NAI Sd1.5, SD3 SDXL does not matter to me in the slightest. I find the aesthetics of illustration in general.

[ivory pebble]

Of course, at the end of the day we're very lucky to have both NAI and Pony. It doesn't matter what people use as long as they're having fun

Personally I'm more excited to see what the future holds for AI image gen. I think both Astralite and the NAI team know what they need to improve with their models and hopefully they will deliver

[zinc flax]

As long as they don't hash anymore stuff lol

[brittle rampart]

they need to process the results

It’s not for nothing that people paid to use NAI

[nova remnant]

Nai is stupid

Really the good thing is vibe transfer

[ivory pebble]

Yeah... About that...

[zinc flax]

It's so over

[nova remnant]

hash all the artists

Bring vibe transfer to pony

[ivory pebble]

I always use vibe transfer plus like 10 different artist tags

[ivory pebble]

Pretty sure vibe transfer is just a better IP Addapter

Or whatever its called

[nova remnant]

I never used controlnet stuff

But seriously

Nai prompting is extremely dumb

It really doesn't do much more than tags

[brittle rampart]

not surprising if this is a set of artist names

[ivory pebble]

How so?

You prompt with it the same way you would with Pony, at least that's how I've been doing it

[brittle rampart]

I didn’t understand at all how to work with the Pony model

[zinc flax]

NAI emphasizes on the prompt order more though

[ivory pebble]

Yup

[nova remnant]

@brittle rampart

[nova remnant]

Pony kinda dumb too, but it could do more of my dumb ideas

[ivory pebble]

Because of the score tags the model doesn't work as well as it should. But you basically just use danbooru/e621 tags to prompt with it

[nova remnant]

e621

[ivory pebble]

Makes sense, it was trained on e621 tags which are better than danbooru, that's why Pony might know some concepts better than NAI

[brittle rampart]

I think this is how any model works or am I wrong?

[ivory pebble]

Well yeah but some people say you can also use natural language to prompt with it however I don't think it works that well

The score tags are the main issue, and the small anime dataset

[nova remnant]

Eating earrings

[brittle rampart]

It’s because of them that I can’t understand “how it works”???!

[brittle rampart]

strawberries again!?

[ivory pebble]

It would be much easier if you explained what you don't understand about it 😭

[nova remnant]

Eat all the things

[zinc flax]

o woops

Didn't know why I replied

[ivory pebble]

Booba

[brittle rampart]

Which Score_N tags should I write and why?

[zinc flax]

tldr:
score_n tags were supposed to replace quality tags but failed to do its job

[nova remnant]

Suspicious looking coffee

[zinc flax]

Whose milk idk

[ivory pebble]

That's the issue, because the score tags are messed up people don't really know what to use. However, from what I've tested, using just score 9 is better for anime, adding score 8 score 7 and those other ones will give your images more detail (it will make the characters more 2.5D/3D looking)

Again, it's not a huge difference but it helps

And the fact that Pony's anime dataset is small compared to the other images in there is also a limiting factor. The model always makes the images look more cartoony rather than giving the anime images that anime look

Hopefully the bigger dataset will fix this issue but we'll have to wait and see

[zinc flax]

Will the new model still be paywalled though

[ivory pebble]

It was never paywalled?

[zinc flax]

Oh huh, the v6.9 one?

[brittle rampart]

So, when using the Pony model, I can simply write the Score_9 tag at the beginning of the prompt and then compose the prompt according to the usual rules?

[ivory pebble]

Yup, that's what I've been using for a while and it works quite well

[ivory pebble]

Pretty sure Astralite already said it's going to be open source as always, it's just that they have a discord bot running for those who can't run Pony locally, that's maybe why you thought it would be paywalled

[zinc flax]

icic

We'll see. There are also a lot of contenders for anime models in the future lol

[supple raptor]

They claim it's not that, but wont give more info.

[glacial bane]

GOOOOOD evening everybody

[ivory pebble]

It's gonna be interesting to see what they're capable of at least

[ivory pebble]

Hi

[glacial bane]

Hey lex

Ima do my usual scroll and admire the gens people make

[nova remnant]

wasn't meI swear I didn't eat the cookies

[stable crane]

cute

[ivory pebble]

Yeah, they don't wanna reveal anything, which makes sense I guess

[zinc flax]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1066655353158250548/1109003501889134632/ezgif.com-gif-maker_1.gif

[brittle rampart]

you are guilty! you lusted after a little Cookie!

[supple raptor]

yep, wd team is working on a model that actually looks very promising based on the pre-alpha version i have (which is more than i could really say for any of the previous models they've put out). the next version of animagine sounds promising, but i'll reserve my excitement until it's actually out because i can't stand using any of the previous versions. there's also another architecture that someone is working on that seems quite interesting.

[zinc flax]

animagine is super undertrained aaaaaa

[supple raptor]

yep, if they explained how it worked, we'd probably have a reverse engineered open source version within a week.

[stable crane]

I don't think wd has ever made a good model

[supple raptor]

dataset is the biggest problem with it. since animagine 2.0 each new version has just been a finetune of the last and 2.0 had a relatively small dataset. usually foundational training would be the biggest dataset and you would reduce the dataset for finetunes, but they've been growing their finetune datasets instead. the result is that some concepts are extremely overcooked while others are under trained.

[supple raptor]

1.3 probably would have turned out pretty good if NAI hadn't leaked during their last bit of training which made everyone just ignore it.

[nova remnant]

Nubby go train a good model you know all stuff

[ivory pebble]

The thing is, they have a whole H100 cluster this time, meaning that they can run hundreds of test runs before actually making a good model. Being able to actually experiment and see what works best is always a problem for finetuners cause they just don't have the compute to be able to do that. This time it's different

[stable crane]

oh good

[supple raptor]

the braindead pre-alpha version of wd-v that i have can do broom riding more consistently than NAI can.

[ivory pebble]

I've also heard that the person who made that model is against having NSFW images in their dataset. That could also be why it's not that good but I have no clue honestly

[supple raptor]

i just have a 3080 12gb. i have to make compromises even to train a lora for sdxl

[ivory pebble]

Are you allowed to post sample images here? I would love to see some

[supple raptor]

biggest problem is that it started with a dataset that was basically just 5 games worth of gacha characters and instead of starting over, with the bigger dataset they have now and the (probably) better hyperparameters, they just keep continuing training on from the previous version.

[nova remnant]

Gacha games makes everything worse

[ivory pebble]

They got big booba waifus so I'm not complaining

[terse ore]

If you do multiple img2img passes without increasing the resolution of the image, it comes out garbled and ruined. Why is that?

[ivory pebble]

I'll never understand why all the local finetuners limit themselves like that, and it's always the people who actually have the ability and the compute to finetune

[supple raptor]

keep in mind, this is from an early test run, not an early version of the model intended to be released.

1 more from WD-V pre-pre-alpha

[nova remnant]

second one is a cute style

[supple raptor]

yeah, that style is probably my favorite that i've gotten from it so far. i haven't even really used it very much though. most of my gens were just nai prompts that i dropped into it.

[stable crane]

yo that first pic is clean af

[ivory pebble]

4 5 6 and 10 already look like something you could get out of NAI, less detailed but still really good

[stable crane]

has some potential

[ivory pebble]

And like I said, now that they have a whole cluster they can run as many test runs as they can until they figure out what works the best

[supple raptor]

that one had no artstyle tags either. someone just asked if it could make mahiro so i threw her description tags in.

[stable crane]

there's no way it didn't just memorize a training image for that one

[brittle rampart]

this is most likely using "vibe transfer"

[stable crane]

ah yeah, 4lex mentioned he used it lots

but composition wise it feels like an official anime art

[ivory pebble]

It was vibe transfer using some dark souls or elden ring image, I only use it to change the art style

[ivory pebble]

"official art" is an actual prompt on NAI, which is what I used, along with "anime screencap"

[brittle rampart]

after all, the screenshot was the basis

[ivory pebble]

What screenshot?

[brittle rampart]

"anime screencap"?

token

?

[ivory pebble]

That just gives it the style from the anime as far as I know, I use it to inpaint the eyes

[stable crane]

I'm just thinking that you won't get that composition with any other anime

[ivory pebble]

Doesn't have anything to do with the actual image composition

[stable crane]

big bro standing behind lil bro style

like if you were to swap that out with megumin and aqua

or shinji and eva-01

I feel like NAI learned a fanart or official art

[ivory pebble]

It was a pretty lucky gen, I generated like 3 or 4 of those but I was to lazy to inpaint them

[ivory pebble]

Yes, that is what AI models do 😭, they learn from actual images

There is plenty of images of edward and alphonse on danbooru, you just have to use the tags "2boys, brothers, siblings" and you'll get some good results

[ivory pebble]

I think you could, you just gotta roll the dice a lot 😭

And a lot of Inpainting, that's very fun to use

[ivory pebble]

Now make her eat the microphone

[stable crane]

(saliva:1.4)

[ivory pebble]

[sinful fulcrum]

Hands look really good for alot of these pictures how do you guys get them so consistently?

[ivory pebble]

Depends on the model, most of the SDXL models can do pretty good hands, and if not then it's pretty easy to inpaint them

[brittle rampart]

Shall we force her to eat the microphone too?

[stable crane]

SDXL is mostly good, if it's not good I re-roll

[ivory pebble]

NO! 😭

[nova remnant]

lmao

[nova remnant]

weird dog

[brittle rampart]

because it's Chanterelle!

Chanterelle!?! damn, what is this!?

🤣 Google Translate!

[nova remnant]

big microphone

[untold glacier]

This is top tier. I would've killed for a wallpaper like this back in the day. This is going in my hall of fame folder, well done.

[brittle rampart]

toooo looong!

[nova remnant]

she'll give you a microphone bonk

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[brittle rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/ouch-gif-12136515515962044163

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

boooba warrior

😁

[nova remnant]

I approve

[brittle rampart]

scary to open..... 🫣

[nova remnant]

she'll bite you be careful

[brittle rampart]

I suggest you sign a contract! I'm using a pen! you are blood! 😉

[ivory pebble]

Thank you

[nova remnant]

she'll bite my knee if I don't ?

[green temple]

woooow

[brittle rampart]

I just tried what I recommended @ivory pebble

[green temple]

what`s the prompt ?

[brittle rampart]

``` (in style of anime Fullmetal Alchemist:1.6), 2boys, brothers elric, edward elric, alphonse elric, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, dynamic illustration, (official art, anime screencap:1.2)`` `

[green temple]

can`t get it right

[brittle rampart]

This was my 8th or 9th attempt.

[green temple]

oh

i got something but not good

[nova remnant]

no more cookies left, I ate all

[brittle rampart]

big green slime

[brittle rampart]

why did she tie a rope to her leg!? or did you tie it to her?

[green temple]

@nova remnant did

[nova remnant]

They noticed

https://tenor.com/view/cat-running-away-escape-getaway-bye-gif-16631286

[brittle rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/the-summoning-bad-cat-hitting-broom-gif-10352523

[nova remnant]

lmao the jars with cute faces

funya ate the cookie im blaming her

[brittle rampart]

hey hey! I did not eat!

if the first jar contains milk.. then the second jar is very similar to one of the emojis!

😁

[nova remnant]

the culprit

Yeah, I usually do 512×900ish

[brittle rampart]

Ouch

[nova remnant]

Sometimes it'll lessen and only take like

10 minutes

But the images also come out looking DOG

[brittle rampart]

@nova remnant I read the correspondence. and wanted to ask. I understand that Forge failed to launch?

what video card?

[nova remnant]

Video card???

[nova remnant]

I think it was an internet issu??

I went to Walmart for wifi

But my computer was fucking up

[brittle rampart]

your video card?

[nova remnant]

I'm not sure tbh

How do I check that

[brittle rampart]

you can look in the task manager

[nova remnant]

Oh bet one sec

Let me start it up

[nova remnant]

this??

[brittle rampart]

Yes. how much video memory does this card have?

[nova remnant]

i heard forge was less intensive on computers so ive been trying to download it but the install keeps fucking up

[brittle rampart]

6Gb

[nova remnant]

yes yes

[brittle rampart]

From my own experience I can say that Forge works much faster

[nova remnant]

6gb is trash

ik

but yeah i heard forge is faster

and easier on computers with even 6gb of ram

i wish it didnt need internet to install

its crazy that it does

it should all just be there with the initial download 😭

[brittle rampart]

well not true. I have NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB

[nova remnant]

i get mixed reviews on the 6gb thing

[brittle rampart]

and even now I do generation using SDXL models

[nova remnant]

some people say its enough to run even sdxl

some people tell me i should have 16 gb just to run them

[nova remnant]

some people say lmao thats trash, others say thats god enough to run

[nova remnant]

on forge??

i need forge

[gloomy scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/etherorcs-gif-6970420406847345409

[nova remnant]

a1111 is the same and all but its not, optimized ig??

[brittle rampart]

on forge it took from 8-10 minutes

on my card

[nova remnant]

thats the least amount of time it takes for me to gen on a1111

but sometimes

even without switching the model

1 to 3 hours

its a literal gamble

and then the images look shit

[nova remnant]

might just be my prompts but, idk, i think even simple prompts should result in good images like that

[gloomy scroll]

Well that prompt is quite simple

[nova remnant]

SEE

you get stuff like that

[gloomy scroll]

[ningen_mame], [ciloranko], [sho_(sho_lwlw)], [[tianliang_duohe_fangdongye, as109]], happy, blush, girl, white hair, long hair, blunt bangs, long sidelocks, blue eyes, pointy ears, {{{vampire fangs}}}

[nova remnant]

and i get stuff like

give it a sec to send 💀

im opening a1111 rn to show you

[gloomy scroll]

Well NAI is just too good

[nova remnant]

how bad they look sometimes

ive heard of nai

i have some credits on there

ill gen a few while waiting on a1111

but NAI just doesnt have what im looking for tbh

its gotten really good but its lacking tools i like and extensions plus its not free 😔

[nova remnant]

💀

[nova remnant]

they look like this 8 times outta 10

sometimes its like this though which is fine

but then its like this again

[gloomy scroll]

At least it's better than this

[nova remnant]

its a mixed bag

[nova remnant]

NAH THAT LOOKS BETTER THAN MINE

[brittle rampart]

can I see your settings in A1111?

[gloomy scroll]

[nova remnant]

which ones

[brittle rampart]

those that you use when generating

[gloomy scroll]

Tbh this is old Nai leaked model

[nova remnant]

this is my base settings

sometimes ill turn on hires but

it takes so looonnggg

[brittle rampart]

is this a Pony model?

[nova remnant]

yeah

the tponyNAI model

[brittle rampart]

is this SDXL?

[nova remnant]

uhhh

i think its a pony model

it should be a pony model, it says pony 😭

[gloomy scroll]

score_9,score_8_up, 1girl, (long hair, white hair, blunt bangs, long sidelocks, blue eyes:1.2), pointy ears, long eyelashes, choker

Negative prompt: score_4,score_3,score_2,score_1,ugly,bad hand,bad feet, censored, abdominal muscle, artistic glow

[nova remnant]

LMAO

[bitter latch]

gotta ask whats withthe score stuff?

[nova remnant]

thats for that cute elf character you always post, right??

imma try it

[gloomy scroll]

It's quality tags for Pony based models

[bitter latch]

ahh that explains it. I dont use pony

[nova remnant]

i have no idea what they do tbh

but

but

[bitter latch]

well , at least not the pony model 😄

[nova remnant]

i just know to put them there

[nova remnant]

animate that yourself??

[gloomy scroll]

Luma

https://lumalabs.ai/dream-machine/creations

[nova remnant]

never heard of it

i animate things by hand

with after effects

when i do it if im animating just like

an image i found

[nova remnant]

i have to cut it all up where itll move

and then draw underneath so theres no gaps

move it all to ae

then animate

its... actually easy??

[nova remnant]

its just two things tbh, but you just have to know how to use them

[nova remnant]

ooooo thats pretty

[nova remnant]

trying this fr

[bitter latch]

tries it without soft anime style

[nova remnant]

now do full anime style

but 90s anime

[bitter latch]

gah the faces

[nova remnant]

dayyuuummm

shes thick

[brittle rampart]

This is feminine "charm"😁

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

what style lora are you using

or is it the model

[brittle rampart]

Yui is beyond competition

[gloomy scroll]

Model

[nova remnant]

it looks cute whats it call

[gloomy scroll]

NaiV3

[nova remnant]

i need a cute model

[nova remnant]

link

[gloomy scroll]

https://novelai.net/image

[nova remnant]

oh i use that

sometimes

[nova remnant]

i cant remember how to prompt correctly on it though

my images end up a little weird sometimes

[brittle rampart]

is not it so?!

[gloomy scroll]

Time for snack break

[brittle rampart]

ok, let's try to launch Forge and generate something in T-ponynai3

I hope I will soon

[nova remnant]

thats cute

[brittle rampart]

is it bad?

[nova remnant]

i dont really like it tbh

it added that shield??

and the quality is meh

[nova remnant]

kanna??

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-kamui-kanna-kobayashi-miss-kobayashis-dragon-maid-kobayashi-san-chi-no-maid-dragon-anime-gif-16145975

[brittle rampart]

but this is generation without HiRes.fix?

[nova remnant]

ye

[bitter latch]

hmm no donuts. wtf

[brittle rampart]

then what is the quality?!

[nova remnant]

IVE SEEN 1.5 MODELS MAKE LESS BLURRY EYES 😭

[bitter latch]

better ?

[nova remnant]

looks nice

[bitter latch]

starts addng a bunch of premade saves styles and waits disaster or mircles

[bitter latch]

makes some changes

gah damn 3rd leg, wtf?!

random 3rd legs.. oi

oooh

[brittle rampart]

and yet tPonynai3 is an SDXL model or not?!

[nova remnant]

dawg i told you it was a pony model 💀

[lyric zealot]

[brittle rampart]

pony model - what is it?!

[nova remnant]

here

[lyric zealot]

It’s a SDXL pony based model

[nova remnant]

its smoooollllll

whats uppppp

[brittle rampart]

still SDXL!

[lyric zealot]

Unless you are talking about the SD1.5 version of pony tho

[nova remnant]

thats a thing?

[lyric zealot]

[lyric zealot]

Yup, but it’s not that good from what I heard

[nova remnant]

i mean, i figured

1.5 isnt the best

i love it

but thats because im used to it

[lyric zealot]

There’s some good 1.5 models tho

[nova remnant]

yeee

like divineanime mix, base anime

[lyric zealot]

My old time fav was holokukiv

[brittle rampart]

well it's not bad

[brittle rampart]

and the time is only 2 minutes

[nova remnant]

i used like 30 different 1.5 models at any time

i used them all

igotta wait 30 minutes rn

[lyric zealot]

Then maybe you will like using refiner

[brittle rampart]

on my video card

[nova remnant]

never used it tbh

[brittle rampart]

and this even without HireFix!

[bitter latch]

yeah I dont' use hi-res fix either

[nova remnant]

must be nice 😭

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

imagine

only taking 2 minutes for a pony model

even with hires fix

[lyric zealot]

I always do hire fix 1.5 time for generation of 768x1024 in about 50 seconds

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

it takes like a minte for 1.5 models with hires fix

idk why pony and sdxl just jumped that HIGH

[brittle rampart]

true in my case it took 2 minutes. but without HiRes.fix

[lyric zealot]

Did you try using the multi diffusion extension?

[nova remnant]

i forgot about that tbh

send the link again?

[lyric zealot]

That should make it so that you dont use your ram for generation

I just woke up and am on bed

[bitter latch]

well could be worse you could be under it

[lyric zealot]

That reminds me of the nightmare I just had

[bitter latch]

yawns

ok that smile is sorta creepy

[nova remnant]

how come it takes like 10 minites just to interupt and image

[brittle rampart]

and what should the settings be?

[lyric zealot]

I think put first 2 at 64 should be fine?

[lyric zealot]

Might be because your image generation is on vae stage, and that usually doesn’t cancel properly

[nova remnant]

wdym

[brittle rampart]

those. tile size 64?

[lyric zealot]

Spam your interrupt button and/or use your preview to the most least resource one, forgotten the name

[nova remnant]

spamming doesnt work ive tried but but wdym by the second thing

[lyric zealot]

Wait, might be wrong, I can’t remember what’s the best setting, try 128 128 64 4

[lyric zealot]

So there’s that live preview that you can see when generating your image right?

[nova remnant]

ye

[lyric zealot]

There’s that taser or something along that time

Tased*

[nova remnant]

the cute girls

how dare you

uhhh which one is it

[lyric zealot]

Using that, is a lot less resource usages, and still decent preview

[brittle rampart]

Here you go. this is with HiRes.Fix

[lyric zealot]

Under settings

[nova remnant]

ooooohhh

one sec

[bitter latch]

thats better kinda

[lyric zealot]

so long

[nova remnant]

i cant find it

its called tased??

[lyric zealot]

Under preview or something

[brittle rampart]

Well damn ! I only have 6GB!

[lyric zealot]

Because I’m not on pc, so can’t check for you

[nova remnant]

one sec

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

which one

[nova remnant]

AYYYYEEE

yoink

mine now

[bitter latch]

changes some of the propmt and tries the multi diffuser thingie

[nova remnant]

I'll just generate more and more goth ones :<

[lyric zealot]

Might be VAE

[nova remnant]

[lyric zealot]

Okay, it’s basically that, but don’t change those

[lyric zealot]

We wanna change it for only live preview image

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

??

[lyric zealot]

Is there a way to search in settings?

Yup

[nova remnant]

heres all the stuff with "live" in it

[lyric zealot]

Live preview method

[nova remnant]

put it on taesd??

[bitter latch]

wtf nite horror bs is this?

[nova remnant]

wtf

LMAO

[lyric zealot]

TAESD is pretty good quality for being fast

[nova remnant]

bros cursed now

its like when you do tiled upscale but 10x more lmao

[lyric zealot]

Perfect

[bitter latch]

turns that crap off

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

is this fine

i got the multidiffuser

[lyric zealot]

I think the settings are off, I can’t remember the best settings for multidiffusion

[gloomy scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/yoink-cat-dragged-gif-1263419341748157821

[bitter latch]

https://tenor.com/bP0sR.gif

[nova remnant]

[lyric zealot]

If I remember correctly, you want your first two values to be as high as possible without going into your ram

Might be wrong tho

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

uhhhhh

(I can't figure out how to do a heart plushie)

i still dont know which numbers to put

[brittle rampart]

strangely, when using MultiDiffusion, everything slowed down a lot for me!

[lyric zealot]

What vibe transfer are you using now stoopid

[lyric zealot]

Then try increasing your first two values

[lyric zealot]

I guess it’s a trial and error

[nova remnant]

noooooooooooooooooo 😭

[lyric zealot]

[gloomy scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-shogun-ei-genshin-impact-genshin-kawaii-anime-girl-gif-23576097

[lyric zealot]

Do the rainbow one

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/alluka-cry-sad-anime-gif-22603216

[nova remnant]

LOL

thats cool

[nova remnant]

................

it was faster

but the multidiffusion isnt working all that gooooood

just gonna keep making the numbers bigger

[lyric zealot]

Good luck

[brittle rampart]

What is this!?

[bitter latch]

DynamicThresholding (CFG-Fix) Integrated

[gloomy scroll]

Seems like some tiles upscale with 1.0 denoise

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

why are there 4 of them?

[lyric zealot]

Increase your first two values by like 2 times

[brittle rampart]

now it's like this

[lyric zealot]

I’m gonna create a new command called “hall_of_shame” just to publicly view your vibe transfer data

[bitter latch]

used multi-diffusion , same H and W , only 1 batch size

[brittle rampart]

but look like this

[lyric zealot]

Maybe tile overlap needs to be higher as well? Maybe 128

Or even higher

I wish I remember my settings

[bitter latch]

changes random things

o...k

[gloomy scroll]

Does multidiffusion work in t2i?

[lyric zealot]

It should

Or at least I think so

Do yall have the tiled vae thingy from that extension?

[bitter latch]

ok she's missing a hand? I think

[gloomy scroll]

Doesn't forge have that enabled by default?

[lyric zealot]

Ahhh is it

[bitter latch]

ooh k then

[lyric zealot]

#🍥｜anime message

[bitter latch]

and....?

[lyric zealot]

And what?

[bitter latch]

exactly

[gloomy scroll]

that's not in Forge's multidiffusion

[lyric zealot]

[lyric zealot]

Well, should help if yall intend to get it, no idea tho, since it’s been long since I used that

[nova remnant]

[gloomy scroll]

To my knowledge Forge does that automatically already

[bitter latch]

grinz evilly

[lyric zealot]

x2

[bitter latch]

turns up the gothic/dark to 11

[brittle rampart]

I have doubts

[brittle rampart]

no winnings!

[bitter latch]

hmm not there......

there?

[brittle rampart]

Drew is not the same!

[bitter latch]

huh?

[brittle rampart]

but he didn’t give up trying to steal the Moon

[brittle rampart]

"Despicable Me!"

[bitter latch]

umm o..k

is running low on wakeful ness

hmm where everyone go?

not long till bed for me

[brittle rampart]

and I’m already falling asleep... it’s already very early here

[bitter latch]

changes to a basic anime model instead of the merged ones

same seed: 3544849180 and prompt

ooooh she grew up

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-goodnight-gn-catgn-gncat-gif-11365475387544238236

[nova remnant]

having fun with sdxl

[bitter latch]

hello.. let's play

[brittle rampart]

yeah, that's it. just trying to use the model

[bitter latch]

oh boy.. ummm (backs away)

hmm sorta crispy

last one and must sleep

goes to sleep THUD

[limpid berry]

#1237459938901491852

[nova remnant]

i used these settings

it took a sec

but

not bad

[lyric zealot]

If it’s working better than before, then it’s a win

[nova remnant]

its like 3% better but ill take it fr

[lyric zealot]

Better than nothing

[nova remnant]

hey 3% of the 3 hours is some 5 minutes

not bad 👍

runs away

[nova remnant]

booba

[nova remnant]

LMAOOOOOO

[stable crane]

this is very charming

[stable crane]

love it

[brittle rampart]

back to the 80s?!

[brittle rampart]

you did it!

[brittle rampart]

how long does generation take?

[nova remnant]

like 30 minutes

[brittle rampart]

how is that!?

[nova remnant]

you keep asking

and the answer remains the same

idk 😭

[unkempt cape]

i place my hopes on neta 2

[lyric zealot]

@wooden coral

[last bay]

hello

[lyric zealot]

[brittle rampart]

[steady grail]

damn, i missed the 💸

boto want the money only for himself 🤣

[last bay]

anybody from India

[steady grail]

i know some from india, there

[brittle rampart]

one lamb + second lamb....

[steady grail]

charming

[brittle rampart]

the mouse doesn't come out beautiful

[steady grail]

cute

[brittle rampart]

she looks like a pokemon

[bitter latch]

she is, eevee

[steady grail]

yeah, she is....

someone evolved her with the wrong stone

[bitter latch]

hehe

[brittle rampart]

Well damn... why don't I have enough memory... there are still some shortcomings!

[steady grail]

895x 1151 is the native resolution you genned it?

or upscaled?

[brittle rampart]

the fact of the matter is that this is without Upscale

[steady grail]

the res is weird

[brittle rampart]

I don't have enough memory for this

[steady grail]

with krita i can do it esily with 4gvram

on 1.5

if i can, you can too

[brittle rampart]

This is not 1.5

[steady grail]

oh

[brittle rampart]

yeep

[steady grail]

well, i can gen that res on pony. but it require 15 min -.-'

too much for me

[brittle rampart]

It's amazing what it generates at all.

6 min 32 sec

on the mouse

[steady grail]

i'm trying to work around using img2img

hand drawing rough forms to guide the end result

[brittle rampart]

What do you mean?

Wow! I'm lucky today! I have started the Upscale process!

🤣

[steady grail]

on krita i draaw a rough idea of what i want, and i use region to prompt just a precise zone, in the hope to gen what i want, where i want

[brittle rampart]

a bit better!

[steady grail]

but when i draw a window in a angle and a library and a desk on the center, i usually get a window as big as the wall and the library as big as the window

i don't know if it's because region is not precise, or because it's not very compatible with an image genned at 1260x1260

i'm still testing

maybe i should add regions where i want a the wall, to limit the dimension of stuff

and things like this

but i never attempted till now to force a model so much

i'm not even sure it's possible

[brittle rampart]

shrug it’s hard for me to even imagine what exactly you’re doing

[steady grail]

eheheh

i like to push stuff to the limit

i was just wwondering if i can gen 512x512 abusing the comprension of xl and use the reference to upscale it and img2img it on 1.5 lol

another experiment for later

but ithink i will face the same problem

so many ideas and so little time >.<

[steady grail]

damn, i like this

[agile basalt]

Hi

[steady grail]

ehy bianca

the character from dq lol

and an italian name

[steady grail]

as usual, don't fall for it

[nova remnant]

Grabby horns

[steady grail]

nuoooo lol

[nova remnant]

Yes

[nova remnant]

Fluf

[nova remnant]

No goth

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/tonton-tonton-sticker-no-nope-gif-13636081

[nova remnant]

lick

What resolution are you using misery

no clue

512x928

That's a weird one

limited by vram

[brittle rampart]

cool print on the top!

[ivory pebble]

Where booba

[brittle rampart]

they all turned into ears

😁

[brittle rampart]

Kawaii 200%, anime -0%

[nova remnant]

my prompt has so many cute in it, its just too cute

[brittle rampart]

your prompt contains just two words. "(cute, kawaii:8)

[bitter latch]

leaves this here

https://suno.com/song/4f6758d7-328c-4be4-a4e1-b67c29c2cdc6

breaks over back to work

[steady grail]

cute

[brittle rampart]

This is unfair!

[nova remnant]

drank many mango juice im fat

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

There's an orange there's on the left

Trying to blend in

Imposter

@brittle rampart is this big enough 👍

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

Oh! She's not athletic at all. who runs around in such a fluffy dress?!

[green temple]

maybe avoiding nsfw 😂

[brittle rampart]

definitely!

I changed my principles...

I generated boooba

😁

[bitter latch]

yeah I sorta cheated and used bing create

but now i'm off work and can do it right

ok making a cute kitten is harder than I thought.... sigh

gives up and plays a game instead

[green temple]

supposed to be ayaka but this is ok i think

[brittle rampart]

💯

[cyan burrow]

Ah been awhie since I poked my head in here

[nova remnant]

go sleep

[nova remnant]

New charger time

[silent kraken]

Can you share the prompt?

[nova remnant]

its sd3... so just "anime art, ultra comfy bed, aesthetic anime art, window" lmao

[nova remnant]

[lyric zealot]

[bitter latch]

tries it

wonders why his gen is taking so long wtf

hmmms

oh wait

doh

i'm talking to myself.. stop that

[nova remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733762994525306972/899670992023076926/image0.gif

not anime

[bitter latch]

Bedception

[bitter latch]

Cat 1Girl, 90's stylized , aesthetic anime art , Cute Pin up art

that is some long legs. WOW

that is.. umm.. o.. k

haha

[rough oxide]

tried that prompt in anima pencil

[bitter latch]

nice

[bitter latch]

tries scramble prompts and tweak weights extensions... let's see how this goes

Cat 1Girl, 90's stylized , aesthetic anime Cute Pin up art-poster, art by Garry Trudeau

goes to bed.. thud.. ow

[rough oxide]

niteee

[rough oxide]

ninomae ina'nis is such a cutieeee

all the holo designs are nice. can't wait for new designs to get implemented

[gloomy scroll]

Here smol

[rough oxide]

instructions unclear, floot stuck in mouf.

[nova remnant]

[cyan burrow]

Wonder what would happen if I tried to bring dark gemini into the newer model climate and make it up to date

and hows the SD scene these days? What model is most prominent and how does it fare on GPUs, how much memory is needed?

I'm kinda looking toward the new APU by AMD that gives nearly 128gb of memory. It's not pure GPU but I wonder if it works...Since it's about as fast as a 4070

[steady grail]

ohi

[desert island]

@green temple trying to get particle effects to render just via prompt is pretty hard but I'm playing and trying stuff out 😁

[green temple]

oh nice !

[unkempt cape]

lmao anything ahh image

[steady grail]

well, editinjg the image and processing it as img2img should work

usually that's how i fix stuff

[desert island]

do I have to go back to a1111 to do that? I'm new to comfy and have no idea if and how one would do that there?

[steady grail]

i use krita

[desert island]

https://tenor.com/view/gollum-whats-taters-precious-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16013459

[steady grail]

adding some stuff you can simply open comfy and use it as ai for krita and work on it

https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion

very cool stuff

i had problem to install inface, so for now i delete comfy and only using krita

but in some time i have the intention to reinstall it

without the setting of comfy, genning with pony is too slow

[desert island]

ah ok... so I mostly do video or at least am breaking into video animation which I find the control of comfy to be a necessity... I see it uses comfy as a backend... hmmm I'll have to give this thing a look it looks really cool.

[steady grail]

the funniest thing is that i can gen 1600x1600 fast enough without upscale

there is a video tool

[desert island]

https://tenor.com/view/100-gif-25608859

[steady grail]

let me try it

never used it

[desert island]

okay now I really will check it out

[steady grail]

i don't even know if my hardware can gen video lol

[desert island]

how much vram you rockin?

[steady grail]

but for what i saw till now, the coder did a very good job in coding this stuff

4gvram

[desert island]

I'm on 16 on a 4080

[steady grail]

eheheh

but i'm a wizard, i always find ways to make stuff work lol

that's why i like comfy. it gives me more freeway

[desert island]

I think 8 is probably the bare min and 16 allows me to actually do shit

[desert island]

agreed. mhmm mhmm mhmm.

[steady grail]

i need to find how it works

[desert island]

no problem I'll test it out for sure when I get back... thanks for the tip about krita. I'm excited squee

[steady grail]

np

i like to test new stuff

[keen hollow]

nice

[desert island]

I'm currently trying to see if and how it chooses to animate, lol.

[keen hollow]

oo fancy

which animation technique?

[desert island]

svd img2vid

[desert island]

the first attempt was very static 🤔 time to mess with some settings and pray the next one is better

[keen hollow]

bzzztttt ... sparkly

[desert island]

still no go on the character motion at 140 I guess I crank it up to 160 🤷‍♂️ I'll try one more time but if this doesn't work I'll have to build out a cntrl net workflow for this kind of thing.

[keen hollow]

Good luck 🙂

[desert island]

https://tenor.com/view/natania-daniel-gif-19918849

[dull jackal]

Still pretty cool, tho

[desert island]

😭 ran out of VRam at the frame interpolation stage of my workflow and it crashed... it still was a static character video from the earlier preview I got... 💢 but I'm gonna try again and go do something else while I wait.

[dull jackal]

rip

This is the time where I'm thankful for my ADHD--my tasks often have me rollin' from something else to the next project that it's like a surprise coming back to something I generated. "Oh, yeah, I forgot about you."

So if it crashes, sometimes, I can just go, "Right. Well, I suppose IT DIDN'T MATTER ANYWAY." Rl or somethin'

[desert island]

unfortunately my life is so tied to this pc and I don't have a second machine...

[desert island]

Sooo cute! Who's got a cewt wittle face. you do, yes you do.

[brittle rampart]

looks like old anime style

[brittle rampart]

sgeu

[brittle rampart]

ummmm....forgot the name of this YouTuber!

[brittle rampart]

by the way. does he only use a combination with Comfi?

[steady grail]

y

[brittle rampart]

I mean the module you use in Krita

I'm a little familiar with this editor

[brittle rampart]

Well, she's not small"

[gloomy scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/ina-bonk-ninomae-inanis-gif-24349550

[brittle rampart]

for what!?

Crap! I really forgot about her...

[brittle rampart]

Inaaah!

girl with tentacles!

[gloomy scroll]

[brittle rampart]

she is an artist

[steady grail]

krita diffusion can be set with an online workflow set by them, a local default workflow, and a local manually set workflow

the default workflow works only with krita, the manual set, once loaded, can be use on krita and when krita is not working, can run a workflow run by you

so, what you can't do with krita, you can still do with the loaded comfy workflow without opening and closing different gui

for me, this is the best configuration, but i had problems installing inface on my confy setup, so i deleted everything and now i'm only using krita

[brittle rampart]

but in a nutshell. This is a process of working in conjunction with krita + Comfie*

[steady grail]

y

[rough oxide]

ye, replicating old style is easy-ish.

[steady grail]

krita diffusion use comfy as a backbone to run models and krita as a gui

[brittle rampart]

but he is beautiful in his own way! I really like him"

because I haven’t heard about the other connection

Krita - very nice editor

and he is free

if I don't confuse it, like Blender, in its idea it remains Free Software

[rough oxide]

i know a lotta ppl who use krita & really like it (who don't use AI stuff). does it have good stable diffusion support now or something?

[brittle rampart]

but even if we abstract from AI. This is a very good graphic editor

and it's completely free

[steady grail]

yep

bepore krita

i was a corel painter user

it was pretty easy too change

except for some difference, krita was easy enough to figure

and have even some more functions

[brittle rampart]

I worked with him like as a graphic editor

but guys, tell me Pony - is it just a separate model or is it like a new standard?

[nova remnant]

What do you mean?

It's a fine tune of sdxl if that's what you're asking

[rough oxide]

i don't really think it's a new standard either... more impressed with nai diffusion 3 for paid or for local anima pencil XL right now... but i think one of the major driving forces behind anima pencil XL being so good is animagine XL 3.0/3.1 as base.

what they claim they wanna do with pony diffusion xl v7 though sounds good, but been waiting for that for agesss or the new waifu diffusion

[nova remnant]

deletes picture

[rough oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/owo-kawaii-sad-gif-13353979

[nova remnant]

no