🍥｜anime

[lyric zealot]

[vital raptor]

mittens, the easy way to fix hands 😄

[steady grail]

i don't know if i should use the face adetailer for hands

i noticed that the noise have the form of a face

[vital raptor]

I've been using it with my current anime merge, it cleans up the faces nicely. I don't use it with some of my other models though, especially realistic ones

[steady grail]

i noticed that it pretty much works, but i'm pretty that with a node for hands, i would get even a better result

[wooden coral]

I use adetailer for hands with depth controlnet and depth hand refiner with 30 Steps restart and 0,45 inpaint denoising

Gives really good results for hands so far

[steady grail]

there is not adetailer specified for hands, right?

[wooden coral]

There is

[steady grail]

on comfy?

[wooden coral]

Comfy should have it too but you only switch the model

Lemme grab my setup

[steady grail]

that's what i'm doing, but i just noticed that that node have something in the noise thar resemble a face

i supposed they did so to improve the result

[wooden coral]

Thats what im doing right now, but a1111 has the new depth hand thingy inbuilt into the extension

Which works a lot better from my very small experience

[vital raptor]

there should be a setting to change detection strength, might need to increase it it it's detecting random things as faces

[steady grail]

you are using squared lines, curse youuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

all the workload must rigorously be a spaghetti mess!

[vital raptor]

in the a1111 extension it's called 'detection model confidence threshold', defaults to 0.3 and detects all kinds of random stuff as faces sometimes

[wooden coral]

I need it clean for my OCD

[steady grail]

or they are not aestetically right!

i'm the opposite...

[wooden coral]

I even enable grid lock in comfy so everything is in line

[steady grail]

i found my nemesis O.O

[wooden coral]

[steady grail]

you monster....

🤣

i'm not much different from a chaos agent lol

that's how a workflow should be

a very big efficent mess

[steady grail]

I have chills lol

[wooden coral]

[silk narwhal]

why did the hand refiner turn this:

to this

[vital raptor]

because we're not allowed to have good hands

[silk narwhal]

it was using the subject input latent image as reference instead of the processed input :<

downside when using anything anywhere 😄

[steady grail]

ai really hate good hands

maybe we should do a hand model, tagged with hand poses XD

[silk narwhal]

more a tool that has a left and right hand 3D model and it poses it to the estimated pose the BBoX detection sees and than generates from that data.. literally generate from observation than mathematically calculate where each pixel could be

[steady grail]

some suggestions for and fixing prompts?

[silk narwhal]

as in?

[steady grail]

just focused for hands

[silk narwhal]

use the most recent models SD1.5 i would say . as majority of bad hand data is pretty much diminished with the user trained data and merges

and all the usual negative prompts 😄

[wooden coral]

Just dont do images with hands

[worthy delta]

Very nice, what's the model and prompt?

[lyric zealot]

there should be metadata embedded

should

or im just wrong af

[lyric zealot]

1girl, nakano yotsuba, orange hair, blue eyes, green hair ribbon, bathrobe, onsen, fog, smoke, sitting, 

<lora:nuanyang_20240104200822:1.0> nuanyang <lora:Yotsuba:1>
Negative prompt: (low quality, worst quality:1.4), (bad anatomy), extra digit, fewer digits, (extra arms:1.2), bad hands, by (bad-artist:0.6), bad-image-v2-39000, negative_hand-neg, text,
Steps: 20, Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras, CFG scale: 22, Seed: 2876177536, Size: 512x768, Model hash: 51e4b0d5e1, Model: SoushikiV1.0, VAE hash: 0468eb8aab, VAE: kl-f8-anime2.ckpt, Denoising strength: 0.51, Clip skip: 2, ADetailer model: face_yolov8n.pt, ADetailer confidence: 0.3, ADetailer dilate erode: 4, ADetailer mask blur: 4, ADetailer denoising strength: 0.4, ADetailer inpaint only masked: True, ADetailer inpaint padding: 32, ADetailer version: 24.1.0, CFG Rescale phi: 0, Hires upscale: 2, Hires steps: 10, Hires upscaler: 4x_fatal_Anime_500000_G, Lora hashes: "nuanyang_20240104200822: 8a9374cfc553, Yotsuba: bb3f8a3fbf3e", Dynamic thresholding enabled: True, Mimic scale: 7, Separate Feature Channels: True, Scaling Startpoint: MEAN, Variability Measure: AD, Interpolate Phi: 1, Threshold percentile: 96, Mimic mode: Half Cosine Up, Mimic scale minimum: 4, CFG mode: Half Cosine Up, CFG scale minimum: 4, TI hashes: "bad-artist: 2d356134903e, bad-image-v2-39000: 5b9281d7c6ad, negative_hand-neg: 73b524a2da12", Version: v1.7.0```

[worthy delta]

Dear god that is alot of stuff

Thanks!

[lyric zealot]

most of it is in my default settings so

[worthy delta]

Gonna try shoshiki model

Damn right looks amazing

I'm still working on my negative prompts

Idk what to add there yknow

[lyric zealot]

well, i should probably remove some stuff from mine as well, but too lazy to experiment

if the model is good, you usually don't need to have a whole lot in your negative

[lyric zealot]

#🍥｜anime message credit nubby

[worthy delta]

That's true

Model I use is centeurfeit combined with a dnd one

But I get alot of limbs popping out and multiple arms out of one

Any negatives I can do that?

Make that don't happen

[lyric zealot]

if it's counterfeit model

[worthy delta]

I've heard counterfeit is hard to control in those terms

[lyric zealot]

or a mixed of that, then maybe try using what the author of counterfeit uses?

[worthy delta]

I'll try that but even when i add bad anatomy and easy negative embeddings it still happens

[lyric zealot]

i guess so. For me, counterfeit model doesnt really follow prompts well

[worthy delta]

I've sorta got it controlled

Lemme get examples

@lyric zealot it's hard to control but makes very very good art

[lyric zealot]

you might like pika model

[worthy delta]

Do tell do tell

Never heard of pika model

[lyric zealot]

https://civitai.com/models/47067/pikas-new-generation

[worthy delta]

It looks good but counterfeit gives more grit if that makes sense

[nova remnant]

BluePencilXL v3.0.1 dropped 2 days ago on huggingface. Looks like they fixed the 3.0 borked VAE

[steady grail]

wow, pika looks insane

[brittle jay]

Guys doesn't what civitai did break the SD license?

I think it was called creativeML or something

[brittle jay]

Damn this one so good

[brittle jay]

Was just about to ask

[lyric zealot]

It’s really mostly the work of the Lora

Pretty new Lora so

[brittle jay]

Nuanyang?

[lyric zealot]

Yup, that

[brittle jay]

Is it published?

[lyric zealot]

It’s on civitai

I’m off computer so don’t have link

[brittle jay]

https://civitai.com/models/254622/nuanyang

This?

[lyric zealot]

Yes that

[brittle jay]

Does anyone know?

[worthy delta]

What does that lora do?

Never heard of jt

[lyric zealot]

Style probably

It’s pretty new so yeah

[worthy delta]

I'll have to try it

Still need to figure out prompts

I barely understand

(insert)

Like wtf that mean

[lyric zealot]

[worthy delta]

Spinning anime girl I see I see

[lyric zealot]

What do you mean?

(Hello)

[worthy delta]

I see people's prompts have (bad anatomy:1)

[lyric zealot]

Means (hello:1.1)

[worthy delta]

Yeah that

What does it do?

[lyric zealot]

So that’s weight

Oh, I didn’t know you new new

[worthy delta]

Not new new

Haven't done it in a while n forgotten alot

[lyric zealot]

Ahh alright

That’s weight

Or straight

Strength*

[worthy delta]

I see I see

[lyric zealot]

Like if you really want something to happen example “sitting”

Like if you include “sitting” in prompt but subject isn’t sitting

You can try raise the weight

To like 1.2

Are you using auto1111?

[worthy delta]

So if I did (1girl, white hair, gold eyes:1)

That makes sure those happen?

[worthy delta]

Yes I am

[lyric zealot]

That’s already at default weight 1

So it’s the same thing

[worthy delta]

So I'd have to do 1.1?

[lyric zealot]

Okay, go highlight a certain word that you have written in your prompt

Then press

Ctrl + up arrow key

Or down

[worthy delta]

What would that do?

[lyric zealot]

Did you try that?

[worthy delta]

Aren't at home rn so I can't....

[lyric zealot]

Ahhh okay

It’s just a handy trick to increasing or decreasing weight

[steady grail]

wtf is this wizzardy? have you cursed my pc? where comes all that stuff? lol

[lyric zealot]

It works right?

Like it will go from

[worthy delta]

So it would Increase it like 1 to 1.1?

[steady grail]

like a charm

[worthy delta]

(Maroon hair:1.1)

[lyric zealot]

1girl to (1girl:1.1)

[steady grail]

it's crazy stuff

[lyric zealot]

Yup

And

Another thing

Have you ever wanted to move certain prompt forward or backward?

Just highly it

Then alt left or alt right

[worthy delta]

I didn't think the position mattered???

[lyric zealot]

And that’s where you are wrong

It matters

[worthy delta]

So last in is what is least focused

[lyric zealot]

Might not be a whole lot tho

Yup

[worthy delta]

I see

Also (Maroon hair:0.5)

Would make it less?

Like a less focused detail

[lyric zealot]

Well, yup

But auto1111 got a feature

Of normalising all weight

So like

If you have one at weight 1

Another at weight 2

Then I think it will be both at weight 1.5?

Or something along those lines

It’s a little confusing

[worthy delta]

Ooo that's handy

So I should put all my negative prompts in ()

[lyric zealot]

But you don’t really have to worry that much

Nope

You shouldn’t

Ahhh I think I get the example

If you have all your prompts :1.5

Then it’s gonna cancel out

And basically be 1

Since all the ratio is the same

So basically, don’t increase all the weight of everything

[steady grail]

something like splits all the weight so to not overburn the image with too much weight

[worthy delta]

So I should have (bad anatomy:1.1), nsfw??

[steady grail]

so if you have 100 100 100, they became 33 33 33

[worthy delta]

As an example

[lyric zealot]

Yup kinda

[worthy delta]

And if I wanted no nsfw at all I'd do

[lyric zealot]

Well, first I would usually try without weight

[worthy delta]

(Bad anatomy:1.1) (nsfw:1.5)

[lyric zealot]

Then increase weight later if need be

1.5 might be a little high, but depends on model

[steady grail]

yeah, nsfw as first token and then add weight to tune down the image

usually is enough to get good images

[worthy delta]

Wait so I'm confused let's say i put example (clothes:0.5) in a positive prompt what happens then does it make the have less clothes????

[steady grail]

even if some models are an ecception

[lyric zealot]

Nope, just less focused that prompt

[steady grail]

yep

[worthy delta]

So let's say I do (nsfw:0.5) would it make that prompt less so it be more sfwm

?*

Cause I be congused

Confused*

[steady grail]

the weight increase the relevance of the token

[lyric zealot]

If you are putting nsfw in positive prompt

[steady grail]

with a negative value, the token get less priority, confronted with others

[lyric zealot]

Then it’s always gonna be adding and not subtracting

Just how much of it

So 0.5

Means, give nsfw half the attention as compared to the other prompt

[worthy delta]

Ahh I see now

So should I add stuff together like (1girl, white hair, white eyes:1.1)?

That ties together

[lyric zealot]

It’s kinda like different children

How much attention given to your children is different

[worthy delta]

That's a sad mood

[lyric zealot]

I’m joking btw

[worthy delta]

I'm a horrible father

[lyric zealot]

Well, if you want, then sure, but that should not be your own prompt

[worthy delta]

Cat dad

[steady grail]

😭

[lyric zealot]

If not, it’s the same as 1girl white hair white eyes

[worthy delta]

So would it tie the stuff together?

Make all of them more related

[lyric zealot]

Nope

But well

That’s where regional prompter and stuff comes in

[steady grail]

they are just generated first, in the same order you wrote them, or something like this

first a girl, then add hair and than eyes

[worthy delta]

Also this adds

4k masterpiece

Should that always be in ()

And at the startM

[steady grail]

but than you add a (fire:3.0) and this change the priority of the gen lol

[worthy delta]

So try not to use ()

Unless it dosent focus on stuff you want

[steady grail]

than you add (fire:3.0) 10 more times and the gen totally forget you even mentioned the girl

[lyric zealot]

Exactly

[steady grail]

that's pretty much how weight works lol

[worthy delta]

Less gooo

We figured it out

[worthy delta]

Also what are some good basic negatives to use

[steady grail]

that's how i go from a cute girl on a fire background, just a firewall....

sometimes increasing weight just doesn't work if the model don't have that concept...

[supple raptor]

most importantly imo is that tokens effect each other in a cascading manner. So if you have 1girl, long hair, red hair, blue dress and the dress keeps coming out red because of the "red hair", try changing it to 1girl, blue dress, long hair, red hair

[steady grail]

and that's where lora and embedding comes

they add concepts missing in the model

oh, to prevent the leaking of the color

[supple raptor]

This is all I use on 99% of SD1.5 models. (Worst Quality, Low Quality:1.2), border, 2girls, nsfw, skimpy, grayscale, (watermark:1.2)

[steady grail]

usually i don't care about that stuff, i love when chaos happens, but i suppose leaking color can be fixed

all of this in positive

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-5958854468941694453

[supple raptor]

There are a lot of problems that can be fixed simply by changing the order of your tags aside from just color. If something is being ignored, try moving it earlier in the prompt before increasing emphasis on it. If something seems like it's having too much effect try moving it later.

Then everything gets even more complicated once you go over 75 tokens, because then you're effectively dealing with the same thing in multiple prompts at the same time.

It'd be nice if WebUI would give some sort of visual indicator for where prompts are being split.

[steady grail]

worked a little on hand adetailing, they still...

[worthy delta]

Imma yoink those

[steady grail]

what's worse is that comfy don't even have a counter

[worthy delta]

Yeah that would be nice to see what ties to what and what influences what

[supple raptor]

Are you using this method? https://github.com/Mikubill/sd-webui-controlnet/discussions/2400

[steady grail]

i simply use concat to split the prompt

i'm on comfy

[supple raptor]

They have it too https://github.com/Fannovel16/comfyui_controlnet_aux/

[unreal ridge]

Holy, that actually looks good

I'll give it a try

[steady grail]

oh, the graphormer, that's a big no, that control net misses most of the hooks

[unreal ridge]

decided to try controlnet yesterday... after 500 years

[steady grail]

i experimented all yesterday and i got good results only on realistic not too deformed big hands

[unreal ridge]

I'm currently having a blast

[steady grail]

the control net fails to detect and fix small anime hands

[supple raptor]

I was trying it out yesterday a little in A1111 and didn't have much luck with actually fixing them. Detection was no problem though.

[steady grail]

and for some reason i even got a weird error, so the workflow failed to load it on ram

it was a pain of a test

[supple raptor]

This was my first attempt

[steady grail]

looks like attempted to inpaint the hands with the prompt of the image

[supple raptor]

That's exactly what I did. According to the guide, you shouldn't need a hand specific prompt for the adetailer pass because of the controlnet. Clearly, that didn't work so well at the recommended 0.7 denoising.

[steady grail]

so the process is, you get a mask from the hook, still from it and controlnet you get new hand, and than the model gives them color

the denoise was too much?

[supple raptor]

The preprocessor is creating a corrected depth map that approximately matches the original hand position. Since the idea is for it to be able to fix things like too few/too many fingers, it needs high denoising to work. Personally I haven't gotten it to work well yet though.

[steady grail]

or maybe the controlnet didn't kick in for some reason

or his weight was too low

the new hand where correct?

before they get generated on the image

[supple raptor]

Unfortunately I can't figure out how to get it to show me the preprocessed image when using Controlnet inside Adetailer so I can't tell for sure whether it's working correctly or not.

[steady grail]

auto1111 can't do it i suppose

adding it would be good

[supple raptor]

Yeah, we need Bing-su to add it to the Adetailer extension.

I guess I'll gen an image without it and try using the controlnet for manually inpainting so that I can see what's happening better.

Ok, I see what's happening. The problem is because I'm using the inpaint only masked option. It's creating the depth map for the full image, but not cropping that when applying it to the inpaint.

[unreal ridge]

Does it work now?

[supple raptor]

Original, Inpaint Only Masked, Inpaint Whole Picture, Depth Map

[unreal ridge]

that's so cool

[worthy delta]

@lyric zealot ur a wizard for the alt and ctrl thing

bless you, you have made my life easier

[supple raptor]

wtf... I just switched back to Only Masked to try to grab a screenshot of the preview where I could see that the depth map for the full image was being used and it generated a cropped depth map this time.

[unreal ridge]

[worthy delta]

hey nubby, do you have any tips for gens?

[supple raptor]

Way too many to list. If there's something in particular you're struggling with, I'm happy to try to help.

[worthy delta]

My hair colour is leaking into clothes

and background aswell from the looks of it

[supple raptor]

What's the prompt?

[worthy delta]

1girl, short hair, dark orange hair, orange eyes, business suit,lora:add_detail:1

very simple but is leaking in

maybe i should put short hair after the colour prompts

im not sure about it

[supple raptor]

try this: 1girl, black business suit, short hair, dark orange hair, orange eyes <lora:add_detail:1>

[worthy delta]

should i always put clothes before the hair descriptions?

/colour prompts

[worthy delta]

looks hella good still some colour bleed but way better

entire background is orange tho...

[supple raptor]

We're doing that here because either the hair or eye color is leaking into the suit. Tokens effect the ones that come after them the strongest, so by moving the clothes to before the hair and eye color in this case, and also providing a color for the clothing, it should help to reduce that chances of that happening.

[worthy delta]

I see so should I do eyes colour, hair colour, short hair?

so it might cut off the bleed

[unreal ridge]

wasn't there an extension to fix this?

[supple raptor]

no, separating them more in the prompt will be helpful. I would recommend adding any description of the background between business suit and short hair.

[supple raptor]

The cutoff extension, sort of works, but also has it's own set of problems.

[worthy delta]

i see, thanks ill try that

[unreal ridge]

oh yeah

was trying to figure out the name

trying to test the hands fix thing... proceeds to get perfect hands 5 times in a row

the fuck is this shit

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[steady grail]

i hope it's on auto lol

if not, i have messed my workflow pretty badly lol

[unreal ridge]

wdym?

[nova remnant]

Big

[nova remnant]

Smol

[steady grail]

you use auto1111? or comfyui?

[lyric zealot]

[unreal ridge]

auto

[steady grail]

so, i have to blame the new nodes... no! I MUST BLAME THE NEW NODES! 🤣

the new nodes doesn't work lol

[unreal ridge]

It's struggling really hard to detect the hands for me

😔

[steady grail]

in other hands, i'm setting the adetailer

i found out the adetailer is very cimpatible with lcm lol

[unreal ridge]

my depth map is this 99% of the times

[steady grail]

remove (dark room:1.3) from the prompt

[unreal ridge]

no

[steady grail]

so, we have to work in the dark i suppose 😔

try to generate a photorealistic image

i noticed this model works better with photorealism

[unreal ridge]

guess I'm fucked then

hate photorealism

[steady grail]

me too

it miss the hook even when hands are too small, or too warped

[brittle jay]

nice

https://github.com/savbell/whisper-writer

this program is pretty cool if you want to try it

Just speech to text on your whole system.

You can run it using only local Whisper models, because the Whisper models are open source.

Well, it depends on how you define open source, but yeah.

[supple raptor]

Mine has rarely failed to detect the hands, it just hasn't been very good at fixing them. Feels easier and faster most of the time to just manually fix them and pass through inpainting at low denoising if necessary.

[worthy delta]

whats the sampler you use most?

[supple raptor]

DPM++ 2M Karras

[worthy delta]

amen

preach

[supple raptor]

It's worth trying them all out on some of your average prompts and models to see what works for you though. Some prompts and models just do better with others. If DPM++ 2M Karras at 20 steps fails me then I usually try DPM++ 2S a or DPM++ SDE at ~15 steps.

[worthy delta]

how do i do prompts to make them look older?

[steady grail]

(older prompt:1.3)

[native halo]

speaking of hands

[worthy delta]

how the hells did you do that

[native halo]

text2img

[nova remnant]

(hands:2)

[native halo]

pos(good hands:3.6) neg (bad hands:3.8)

[worthy delta]

looks real

[tribal ore]

I'm using a lora that I trained on some comic style art. Mostly trained on images that I made using img2img until I got a decent drawing. It usually adds a paper texture to images that I like. I need to cut down the dataset and re-train it to be better I think.

[steady grail]

very cute lora

[tribal ore]

Some are nice, and some are ruined because of the hands. And sometimes it gives hrer extra ears. And sdxl doesn't know how a person hold a sword.

[steady grail]

i solved the problem of holding stuff long time ago XD

i circuited your brain XD

[tribal ore]

What?

The index finger on the left hand doesn't make sense in that image. And the top of the microphone is at the wrong angle comared to the hand. It's only ok because it's better than a lot of other sdxl generations.

[steady grail]

it was a joke

[supple raptor]

well, it wasn't wrong

[tribal ore]

Oooohh

[steady grail]

XD

there is a story behind this image XD

i was trying to gen Iori Yagami in a fighting pose

and that's was one of the first images i ever generated

it was nothing i was looking for, and all the pose where ridiculous like this

sick of it, i attempted to gen it with a mic in the hand

failing again

so i got bored and edited a mic in his hand with the word enka, under the influense of pure delirium XD

[tribal ore]

I knid of wonder how many images sdxl and it's finetunes have been trained on where the hands were just barely cut off. I get so many like this one.

I don't try to fix hands anymore. I'll generate something that almost has a good hand, then try to inpaint it and every attempt is wors than the original.

I don't think I've photoshopped a good hand in first though.

That moght work.

[steady grail]

when the model don't know how to gen something, it simply cover it

usually i fix hands, by hands lol

simply redraw them

[nova remnant]

Square ratio will more likely result in less hands

[tribal ore]

True. You get a lot less full bodies with 1:1 aspect

[steady grail]

expecially when you don't prompt full body, or something regarding the feets or boots

[nova remnant]

@steady grail what is your picture

[steady grail]

that one lol

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/star-rail-dr-ratio-dr-ratio-star-rail-ratio-gif-5435908201243396239

[steady grail]

that model failed me too many times XD

[nova remnant]

We need to up the bodysuit ratio

[native halo]

chest circumference ratio

🫳

[steady grail]

i would love to know if there is a way to stop comfy from loading and unloading the upscaling model 😦

tiling upscaling like this is hell

[nova remnant]

grabby

[steady grail]

charming

[nova remnant]

@stable crane

[stable crane]

🙂

hiyo

happy friday ppl

[nova remnant]

I want to make horned elves next time I play with SD

[stable crane]

make bunny girls

[nova remnant]

Bunny ears, horns and elf ears

I'll add everything

[stable crane]

and a DBZ scouter

[native halo]

right now i only have reverse bunny suit pics 😔

[stable crane]

ah, rabbits with human legs and hands I see

[nova remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/kok-cat-gif-25438805

[stable crane]

I'm feeling blessed

[nova remnant]

Why is that

[stable crane]

I stumbled into a fun style

in SD

[nova remnant]

That bunny one?

[stable crane]

this one

[nova remnant]

[stable crane]

maybe I am just really digging the proportions

and I found a rather alright way to upscale

but I can use this style on any subject

name a girl-type and I'll try it

[nova remnant]

do green eyes elf

[native halo]

ultra muscular hatsune miku flexin biceps

[nova remnant]

Sir, bing blocked me with that prompt, it is extremely unsafe for works I'll ask you to try again

[native halo]

mfw creating my twitter acc

[steady grail]

cool

[stable crane]

actually I have a better miku for that

buff

this body type works on all girls

[native halo]

Miku if she was a Baki character

[nova remnant]

Bing is even more censored I feel

[steady grail]

so wrong in so many ways

lol

[nova remnant]

Okay I give up on any Hatsune Miku, bing just blocks all prompt, maybe it hates muscles

[stable crane]

I toned down the proportions

[stable crane]

❤️

a good use of bing

mouse girls with cheese

[nova remnant]

X3

[lyric zealot]

@finite herald

@dull jackal

[finite herald]

tyyyy

[lyric zealot]

[supple raptor]

ono! did I miss a free steam gift card?

[zinc flax]

You missed the free-est of all gift cards

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/ruby-hoshino-oshi-no-ko-anime-tears-crying-gif-16026934856871427303

[sly rune]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

Could've used that to get Lethal Company to play with friends.

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

don't finger the cheese girl

[gloomy scroll]

What is 暖阳 lora?

[nova remnant]

@lyric zealot question for you

[lyric zealot]

https://civitai.com/models/254622/nuanyang this?

[brittle rampart]

Have a nice day everyone! Guys, I have a question. I once read an article that there is a certain pattern in the stability of SD operation depending on the browser, is this true?

[vital raptor]

What do you mean?

[brittle rampart]

For example, does it work faster and more stable in Chrome than in FireFox?

[vital raptor]

well, SD doesn't run in a browser, so it doesn't matter

depending on what UI you're using, it might make a small difference

[nova remnant]

More stable in chrome

[vital raptor]

I've never had anything be unstable in chrome, but I haven't tried anything else. If you're low on vram then disabling hardware acceleration in the browser might help performance, but I'm pretty sure they can all do that

[nova remnant]

And don't use adblock

Other browsers might have some bugs, nothing major I don't think

[vital raptor]

I use adblock, doesn't seem to cause me any issues

but, I'm not hurting for performance or resources, so that's probably the actual problem

[nova remnant]

Many people have had issues with adblock, me included lmao

[brittle rampart]

hmmm

[nova remnant]

Just like sometimes something disappears in your UI or is delaying.. idk those things happened to me

[vital raptor]

I gen with youtube playing and like 12+ tabs open, hardware acceleration is on, etc etc

[brittle rampart]

true.

[nova remnant]

[vital raptor]

but normally i'm not maxing out my vram for normal gens

[brittle rampart]

I use Firefox. and sometimes there is indeed a delay in the response time of the interface. or, for example, a gradual, non-sharp increase in generation time after what period. and I have to restart the server

[nova remnant]

Same model

Lmao she's turning flowers into purple balls or something

[brittle rampart]

this is flower pollen mega close up

[nova remnant]

Haha

bad hand

[nova remnant]

Funny as you said that, I got this image randomly

She's using the pollen magic

[brittle rampart]

then she can be a elf!

[nova remnant]

Eep

[zinc flax]

eepy

[nova remnant]

@native halo preparing food

Get hungry, you guys

[native halo]

i would eat that cake tbh

[nova remnant]

She's making a salad, there's no cake

[native halo]

oh theres cake 🍰

[zinc flax]

borgar

[bitter latch]

ok maybe not anime , sorry

self removed 😄

here we go again

[zinc flax]

@dull jackal

[bitter latch]

me thinks someone got hacked

[zinc flax]

They probably typed in their discord acc there

and of course got hacked in the process lol

[bitter latch]

haha

[nova remnant]

Yummy

[bitter latch]

oops I typed mike elf instead of miku

[nova remnant]

Moar burge

[bitter latch]

even moar burge

[nova remnant]

Giant burgee

[native halo]

bites ear 👂

[nova remnant]

👍

[native halo]

[nova remnant]

Experiments gone wrong

[bitter latch]

Burger Queen miku

[lyric zealot]

this is actually another level scam. The URL looks legit, but if you hover over it, you know it's fake. Take note not to press this link

[bitter latch]

exactly

I just blocked them

[zinc flax]

I'm super curious

The intrusive thoughts are winning

[lyric zealot]

if you wanna press it, do it in a enclosed linux machine

[zinc flax]

Surely it won't suddenly steal my discord acc

I feel like I'd need to connect it to steam and then discord somehow

[bitter latch]

don't do it

or do.. upto you. we'll sit back and laugh

😄

[lyric zealot]

depends if you have 2fa

[zinc flax]

Taking one for the boys

[lyric zealot]

if you do, use it on some browser that doens't have any saved password

and private browsing

[zinc flax]

Nah I won't click on it

[bitter latch]

miku runs away

ok why she look creepy ?

[lyric zealot]

www.google.com

Same concept as above

mine is safe tho

[nova remnant]

@dull jackal come hammer them

[zinc flax]

Huh, what is this super secret link changer

[lyric zealot]

dont hammer me tho

[bitter latch]

zombie

[native halo]

hammer smol sus he kinda sus

[lyric zealot]

[www.google.com](<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ>)

[nova remnant]

@mods

[zinc flax]

Woah

[lyric zealot]

[zinc flax]

Wait, I know that yt link.

[nova remnant]

Xcq

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-rick-ashley-never-gonna-give-you-up-gif-22113173

[nova remnant]

The famous

[zinc flax]

That video won't give me up

[nova remnant]

[zinc flax]

LMAO

[lyric zealot]

brother

he literally sang for countdown 2024

for some country

literally rickroll into 2024

[nova remnant]

A legend

[zinc flax]

This is pretty dang scary

[zinc flax]

It's the violence path for her now

[lyric zealot]

well, just really always look at what's the proper link first before clicking

[nova remnant]

I don't click anything

[zinc flax]

I never click links from strangers as enticing as it may look

[bitter latch]

looks to be a redirect link

no surprise

[zinc flax]

Shortener, yeah

[nova remnant]

Spam elf girls no clicks

[gloomy scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-was-never-an-option-chicken-axe-gif-14742763

[bitter latch]

zombie

[brittle rampart]

Miku

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-gif-13102962734258593859

[nova remnant]

Sushi

[lyric zealot]

i realised we lost access to miku-mash again btw

[nova remnant]

The tutorial I watch

My drawing

[brittle rampart]

you're boys all so fast... my computer can't keep up with you

[gloomy scroll]

I'm just using old images

[brittle rampart]

Wizzard!

[nova remnant]

These guys are all hoarding 10000 images on each folder

[gloomy scroll]

I have few of these already

[brittle rampart]

in one folder?!

[brittle rampart]

hmm

[nova remnant]

[gloomy scroll]

Okay so I don't know why put all of those 90 folders had duplicate images for each month

[brittle rampart]

my output have only 6500 files

[gloomy scroll]

I don't even want to know how many I would have if I saved each gen automatically

[nova remnant]

Miiki wzzzzdd

[dull jackal]

Rip spam

BUT HELLO MIKU

[brittle rampart]

polka from Miku

[nova remnant]

Miiki

☀️

Sunny

[lyric zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/no-touch-swat-leek-miku-hatsune-miku-gif-17092817

[dull jackal]

Hullo, hullo! How is everyone is lovely morning?

[gloomy scroll]

I need to go buy groceries but for some reason don't feel like doing that today

[brittle rampart]

and here it’s only -14, but a blanket and tea raises it to +24

[nova remnant]

@native halo she's going to visit you in your dreams today

[native halo]

🤗

[bitter latch]

uhh oh she got to cold

[native halo]

srry this is the only char on my dreams 🤠

[bitter latch]

hmm who she?

[native halo]

a kunoichi

[nova remnant]

2/10

No horns to grab or ears to bite

[native halo]

but she does bite

[dull jackal]

This is why I'm under a fuzzy blanket

[bitter latch]

not that cold here but is reainy

rainy

takes all styles off and hits enter

[gloomy scroll]

Well I guess I'll just go get salad and sushi box from near by kiosk

[bitter latch]

upscaled 😄

[bitter latch]

odd style

[bitter latch]

not upscaled

ok beat that one into the ground

😄

[brittle rampart]

why?

[bitter latch]

hmm kinda looks like a photo negitive of a black and white picture

creepy

[brittle rampart]

if a creepy impression remains then the goal has been achieved!

[bitter latch]

anyhow gaming time before work

time for some more gunfire reborn

[native halo]

creepy?

[supple raptor]

this guy thinks it's only 10k

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/996544918610784296.webp?size=64&name=Agony&quality=lossless

[brittle rampart]

bit bigger and bit cute

[worthy delta]

anyone know a good model for weapons?

also any god ones for a eldritch type of water spirit?

[brittle rampart]

scene of the destruction of the great and terrible Cthulhu?

[native halo]

barak obama

[zinc flax]

If it's too specific then you'd probably need a lora

[brittle rampart]

eldritch type of water spirit

[worthy delta]

smash

but im looking less eldrith but more spirit

[brittle rampart]

cute loli with blue hair and eyes?

[worthy delta]

more intangiable spirit

[brittle rampart]

Is this so that there is all sorts of transparency and so on?

[worthy delta]

yeah kind of

its for my dnd warlocks patron

[worthy delta]

@supple raptor how does adetailer work?

[keen hollow]

My simple understanding is that it uses a model to recognize particular features of a generation (like a face), and then re-renders that section at full res.

[silk narwhal]

AI trained on recognizing faces/hands/people looks at image > masks those it found and passes it to the sampler that will only regenerate what is within that masked area at full resolution and blends it on the existing image> hopefully gets an output that is better than the input image

[acoustic locust]

Model?

[bitter latch]

custom 😄

[acoustic locust]

Based on?

[bitter latch]

this and that

those and them

it's a big multi model merge

so.. shrugs

[worthy delta]

i got a couple questions about merging?

what do you use to mrge?

merge*

lets say u like the look of one model but another has some pop that u like how do u take the pop

[native halo]

this one https://github.com/wkpark/sd-webui-model-mixer

if u know both models recipe and know about both checkpoints weights u can choose what to merge if u dont u just gotta randomize and test if it didnt come out how u wanted then try again with another random weight merge > repeat til u get style that u want

[worthy delta]

i see i see, thank you?

[steady grail]

cute

[worthy delta]

yo mate, what does vae actually do?

[steady grail]

if i'm not mistaking, it decode from data, to image

[worthy delta]

like affect image wise?

[steady grail]

what?

the vae is at the end of the process

[worthy delta]

so it dosent change the appearance at all?

[native halo]

it only affects the colors and some artifacts it cant change composition of the img

[worthy delta]

i see now, thank yiu

you*

[bitter latch]

VAE is like extra shading and color correction

[bitter latch]

and merging pretty much this...

like someone said , find somet that compliment each other or maybe add to.. shrugs

they don't always work the way you want. good at some things bad at others

doh

she's melting

oh nm haha Miku Hastune

take 2.. eww

yeah thats a fail. ick

tho I'll try other samplers to check

yeah it's burnt

I just sorta try things and see what works. i'm random that way

huh this other new one I made , came out more realish

I have no idea who this guy is, not hulk hogan as spider man

tho I guess it's good for 3D realistic

shrugs

[stable crane]

that's cool

[bitter latch]

merges in a mix of furry anime to see if he can make it better, but does weighted sums instead

huh.. it's going lewd on me.. haha

[bitter latch]

yeah it went realistic with no styles

[summer night]

what happens if the same string is in both the prompt and the negative prompt?

[native halo]

~touches~

[nova remnant]

The water?

be careful it's cold

[native halo]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-meme-dank-emoji-creepy-gif-17128309

[nova remnant]

@native halo " "

touching water

[native halo]

i love water now

[zinc flax]

Huge

[brittle rampart]

How long does the merger procedure take? and what does time depend on?

[bitter latch]

min to 3 or so

and settings I guess.

[nova remnant]

I'd read so much in that library

[native halo]

i dont understand what this book says, would u help me out?

[nova remnant]

Grabby book

[bitter latch]

woot got the morning off.. dances

[nova remnant]

@native halo bing also likes books

[brittle jay]

guys do you think the singularity will happen? when?

[brittle jay]

when you jpeg🤮

[brittle jay]

looks like Yukinoshita Yukino

[bitter latch]

Yukinoshita Yukino neko

[native halo]

she could help me with this massive book

[bitter latch]

that came out good, restart at 80 steps

[worthy delta]

the tertiary model, primary and secondary what do those mean?

[nova remnant]

I downloaded the thumbnail kek

[brittle jay]

primary is the first, secondary is the second and tertiary is the third

depending on what merging method you use, it uses them differently

[worthy delta]

so primary is what i want most from

[brittle jay]

look at the top

[brittle jay]

no

not necessarily

[worthy delta]

huh

[brittle jay]

since they chose the difference thingy, you can see an explanation of it on the top

[worthy delta]

i still dont understand it

[lyric zealot]

depends on the interpolation methods

this is for weighted sum

[worthy delta]

i see so which should i use?

[brittle jay]

there is no should

[worthy delta]

there is only do?

imma try it

will report back with my findings

[brittle jay]

what findings?

[worthy delta]

im merging counter feit pastelmix and lympus

[worthy delta]

see if it makes beautiful art

so what is the config

yknow what we ball

[brittle jay]

the interpolation method doesn't matter

[worthy delta]

i see i see

so config does matter?

wth is the config

[native halo]

ofc it matters lmao

also checkpoint merger saves the 6gb file then u have to load it and test it,model merge is better because it merges model to ram and u can test it right away without saving it to disk

[worthy delta]

i see isee

its already saved it

i hope i get all the good parts i like

counter has good details, pastel has good colouring, olympus has good shading

[native halo]

if u doing a blind merge u gonna have to create a lot of checkpoints and test them all to see which one u like the most

[worthy delta]

i see

so far so good

[native halo]

for example add diference mode its checkpoint A + (checkpoint B - checkpoint C)

[worthy delta]

i see

so ill have to try different gens to get what i like?

it always does a long neck

[native halo]

long neck? idk whats that

[worthy delta]

neck is long

[steady grail]

she is a giraffe girl!

[nova remnant]

[terse ore]

That convo reminded me of Mike Tyson's interview.
"I broke my back"
"What do you mean by that?"
"My back is broken"

Thpinal

[terse ore]

What model is that? Looks so clean

[gloomy scroll]

NAIv3

[spark kraken]

wow i love the lighting of this pic and how it has that all green nature flair i would even set it as my phone background if people wouldn't call me out as a weeb then

[worthy delta]

thank you!

merging some models

[spark kraken]

good luck with that!

i don't even know which model i want to use

i have not been touching sd for a while and now it's hard to keep up with whats 🔥

[spark kraken]

mom-

i mean nice!

which models did you mix for this?

[worthy delta]

counterfeit and pastelmix

i tried olympus aswell but didnt give me the deatil i wanted

[spark kraken]

you mean the pastelmix from meina?

yeag i liked that one pretty much

never heard of counterfeit and olympus so far

[keen hollow]

Did that newer ip-adapter stuff come to Auto1111 yet?

can't remember who was messing with that...

I think it was @gentle musk 🙂

[worthy delta]

counterfeit is hard to handle

mixed with pastel it makes beautiful art

[gentle musk]

No idea, I don't use A1111

They keep updating stuff on it, they added a FaceID one for SDXL last week. A1111 doesn't update quick enough to keep up.

[obtuse trellis]

Ip adapter is out on a1111 yea

[steady grail]

when you don't have to deal with the gui, things are faster

[vital raptor]

are you using a character lora, or just prompting for a specific look?

[gloomy scroll]

Just prompt for the character also that image should have pnginfo

[vital raptor]

nice, seemed like a lora because of how consistent the look is

[spark kraken]

eepy

[worthy delta]

Fellas is it wise to share a model you merged?

[gloomy scroll]

That's what most of CivitAi models are

[worthy delta]

hey vil

how do you make your own model

[gloomy scroll]

I don't. I gave up long time ago

[worthy delta]

theres a specific style i want

should i try and make a lora for it

[gloomy scroll]

That's probably easiest way

[worthy delta]

how do i make one?

[gloomy scroll]

haven't done one myself

YT probably has answer to your question

[worthy delta]

yeah but its eehhh

barely use youtube except for dnd stuff

[keen hollow]

the latest face one is?

[keen hollow]

oh nice, have you tried it?

[gentle musk]

Yeah, it seems similar to the SD1.5 one. Not perfect but pretty close. Highly dependant on the input image.

[obtuse trellis]

yea ive seen it around havent used the face as much i use ip adapater plus only

https://huggingface.co/h94/IP-Adapter/tree/main/models theres a face version on there too

[gentle musk]

Yeah that's the older face models

They have FaceID now https://huggingface.co/h94/IP-Adapter-FaceID/tree/main

Which uses Insightface

[obtuse trellis]

not sure about that one in a1111 would have to just use it and see

[gentle musk]

It likely won't work because its not going to try and run insightface, which is required for it to work.

Well it might "work" as in it won't error, but it won't work properly

[nova remnant]

BluePencilXL v3.0.1 appears to have fixed the baked-in VAE problems of 3.0 https://huggingface.co/bluepen5805/blue_pencil-XL/tree/main

[worthy delta]

can you guys gimme propmts to see how far this model can go?

[silk narwhal]

1girl solo breasts looking_at_viewer blush black_hair hair_ornament jewelry medium_breasts collarbone upper_body yellow_eyes grey_hair multicolored_hair earrings parted_lips lying teeth japanese_clothes medium_hair hair_flower on_back armpits black_kimono

[worthy delta]

bnet

bet*

[silk narwhal]

has a few words that models love to fail at 😄, without using lora's or other optimizers

love this plugin 😄

[worthy delta]

cant that one get you banned i heard?

[worthy delta]

ill do it in a second

[silk narwhal]

Bad news... am going to bed all

GN

[broken osprey]

Haha guys I tried ip adapter in comfy and it didn’t work. But on webui it is working beautiful. Managed to transfer style, depth and pose at the same time for one character. Hehe will post an update in a minute

Here is the image, not bad, couonterfeit of course adds many details to the image along with the depth and pose,

Finally I can exploit those 8gb ddr6 that this card supposedly has

[keen hollow]

black and white, kinda different

I like when people do different stuff 😛

Attempts in SD to be riding a shark...

Versus Dalle

[keen hollow]

Started down the path of reinstalling comfy and setting all this up, but just gave up after like the 9th thing I had to manually pull down to get it all setup. Just don't have that kinda time. 😛

[broken osprey]

Can ayone help me out to set up the new depth-hand controlnet model for adetailer, is not showing up at all, I have a symlink running with the controlnet models on another drive but the adetailer one is not showing up ;c

[broken osprey]

New one 3600x1872 ^^

[worthy delta]

anyone got the auto prompter link

[keen hollow]

Not even sure what that is. 😄

[worthy delta]

its the thing as u type

like if u type girl it suggests 1girl

[nova remnant]

(it's useless)

It's called auto complete

I believe

Just find in the extensions

@native halo is here

[native halo]

im still lookin for that extension that writes the whole prompt for u then clicks generate and creates a masterpiece without me havin to get up chair

[bitter latch]

Miku the twitch streamer 😄

ok more anime 😄