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mixture of inpainting and outpainting, kinda obvious in some spots
@smoky oak Well, I was right again as I said over six months ago that Google banned Deepfakes in 2018 as they were taking too many resources and I expected them to do the same to this. Sure enough free accounts (for now) are banned from using gradio. Use it and get a warning that will eventually get your account banned. They will do it too.
I can't say its surprising, but it is really scummy IMO
Why provide free accounts if you are gonna limit what you can do with them
Just cut down the time or limit the GPU's they have access to if its that big of a deal
Well, yes to all of that but I do understand in this one respect. I say that because assholes were hosting 3rd party FOR PAY shit on their servers that was free.
Oh, thats even scummier lmao
yep
Yeah in that case I can understand
Alright I can get that
I left them a couple to three weeks ago as it was zapping my will to live. I saw it coming when 12h became 6 then 4 then 2
so they are saying that the sheer amount of free web UI usage isn't able to be floated by the paid users, which I understand
Yeah, I can understand that
again, because asshole companies were hosting APIs for pay that was using Google's free
it was good while it lasted, but too many people cashed in on their frankly generous offer and it is starting to hurt them
Yeah.
Google collab is an insanely useful and infinitely beneficial platform, and I can understand why they are moving away from this, even if its a detriment to those who were using it responsibly
call it another example of trashy people playing the system ruining it for everybody else
unfortunately, I have a feeling this is gonna make the active SD community a decent bit smaller considering the amount o people I have seen that run SD on collab
Correct on all accounts
I am just as fast to jump and call out companies on capitalist behavior, or when they purposely try to make things sound worse than they are, but genuinely when it comes to Google Collab I can honestly say that I think that what they do is extremely beneficial, and extremely reasonable. So it's very sad to hear that they are having their generosity of allowing people to use that powerful service for free take it advantage of, and subsequently ruining it for everybody else
I wonder if there could be anyway they could allow it for others while cutting off the BS bad actors?
I wish they could, but remember in 2018 this happened too but it was NOT companies it was just sheer amount of users training deepfakes. I honestly believe that is the case now too as it was draining their resources.
SD became too popular
yes
we got no more good free services
nope
Well, there is still free but I will be damned if I ever could get a card so gave up. Might as well say nope.
I think SD over there too sucking up all their resources as they gave faster cards than T4
betcha next will be banned there too
Last time I used it there was only T4's
not colab, I am talking about AWS
isn't aws pain in the butt to register?
oh...it's cause I'm from Russia, I recall now , nvm 😄
nope, they let me within 10m but I never could get their fancier card to even try it
Yes, that would be why
Their service was so fancy and professional but a lot of good that did me
need to buy another temporary phone then...that would also let me try their coding assistant thing
Well, good luck as they never have free cards to use. A lot of people left colab to go there since it is a superior service but I bet they stop that
no more SD for me
automatic1111 notebook
I see what they did
Using the Wayback Machine, I compared the FAQ page today with the page last archived. The changes are underlined in red.https://preview.redd.it/r2xurpey94va1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=5074bcddde850d6dde61aa789014e62c108c755a
That was from the reddit post.
yea just webui then, but can't do alot without it
Beautiful view
I typed in ooga booga and got this
so I put in "ooga booga"
and
um
Im not sure if I should share the results
Not nsfw or anything but slightly offensive probably
Yeah I don't want to make anyone else mad.
tho I spose you can guess what I got based on what I am saying
yeah im currently messing around with a 2.1 photorealism model
ill stick with my pretty forests
which model?
realism engine
I wonder if you can guess my one word prompt
interesting
the one on the left looks like a summer squash
that was realism engine btw
these are really cool
see
(they are a wider aspect ratio, discord is making them squares with the gallery images thing)
Aye
Illuminati
personally from the images I made I prefer realism engine, the black and white is cool
trees I guess
lets try realism
Eid Mubarak
judging from this logo on the exosuit, i feel like GPT is infiltrating my SD install lol. I did not prompt anything with GPT and that is really well done writing on the suit
Metadatas for image shared through discord are baaaaaaack !
(you still need to download the pic/open in browser)
@livid ermine #🏞|general-with-images message
without training at all, you can use some creativity and do good things with base visuals too
🤔
Predictions:
x)
hahah
ho
yeah 🙂
yeah I though your face was the output
that seems more like it
canny mode ?
try mlsd with architecture 🙂
😄
Sorta did just that, plus some GIMP-stuff afterwards.
I actually work with the people who designed that building, www.snohetta.com/projects, many claim they're the best architect firm in the world.
let me try it :p
"parametric" 🙂
parametric architecture, the future of human habitations
has an enormous effect on the outcome
my bad 🤣
depends on the intended result anyway
Yeah parametric architecture doesn't look like that, the Oslo Opera wasnt parametric to begin with
But it's worth checking out!
Brilliant visuals
I'm trying different settings
a little more "artistic" than photorealistic though
Indeed
I'll change model
Btw now that you have the negro version of me, here's the viking version 🤣
from what I got last time someone said it around and a drama started yeah, I'd prefer if you replaced it with black for example
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How dose this Violate their TOS
it seems they nuked the webui on google colab free tier last few hours :/ https://twitter.com/thechrisperry/status/1649189902079381505
how can i upscale and get more detail, without changing the prompt and wrecking the image. this is the upscaled image with noise reduced up to the point it doesnt majorly change the image.
I am running it on google colab now, should I stop then?
no no, continue ^^ it gets stoped by google themselves, lots of people report they can't run the webui anymore
this just targets webui though, using other notebooks without UI doesn't seem to be a problem either on free tier
also it just affect free tier
alright
so if I only use commands to generate images everything will be fine?
thanks
yep, original diffusers library is currently safe
no idea what they change tomorrow though
it is kinda sad they are banning the web ui
I finally built a code to run the colab and then I read this
yeah... it's a fringe use to colab though. it's supposed to be meant to run code snipsets, not power your own WebUI, so I do get why, especially if it's impacting their cluster since everyone does it now
yea
I am using it only because I dont have a powerful GPU
if that wasnt the case I would not be using colab
same here, I was asking yesterday about this and now I have this problem
is there's any alternative to running in google colab?
I was training a model
@glossy herald first generated image (upscaled)
this tile-able generation with the simple prompt "numbness" is appropriately uncomfortable...
couldnt you have censored that
how
I use a base prompt "a painting of a girl with a hoodie on her head, intricate details"
and a dynamic prompt on top
first I use different settings in there
I lowered the threshold
so it keeps more details
I used that scribbel_xdog because the preview was the best of the scribbles
it needs a pure black and white format, can't just use levels of grey
the example I showed when using no preprocessor at all what pure black and white
not grey
it's your problem, because of it you need to use a preprocessor
which
a painting of a girl with a hoodie on her head, an abstract sculpture by Aleksandr Ivanovich Laktionov , [:anime line art:0.2], Thunder and astral themed, epic splash art , harlem renaissance, , realistic
Steps: 30, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 264555375, Size: 512x640, Model hash: c4947fa2c4, Model: DB_mix_realbiter_v10, Clip skip: 2, ControlNet-0 Enabled: True, ControlNet-0 Module: scribble_xdog, ControlNet-0 Model: control_v11p_sd15_scribble [d4ba51ff], ControlNet-0 Weight: 1, ControlNet-0 Guidance Start: 0, ControlNet-0 Guidance End: 1
set the controlnet like this
lol
you forgot to check "enable" on controlnet
x)
how you made this
i get this
a painting of a girl with a hoodie on her head, an abstract sculpture by Aleksandr Ivanovich Laktionov , [:anime line art:0.2], Thunder and astral themed, epic splash art , harlem renaissance, , realistic
Steps: 30, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 264555375, Size: 512x512, Model hash: 6ce0161689, Model: v1-5-pruned-emaonly, ControlNet Enabled: True, ControlNet Module: none, ControlNet Model: control_v11p_sd15_scribble [d4ba51ff], ControlNet Weight: 1, ControlNet Guidance Start: 0, ControlNet Guidance End: 1
the base model
you are using 1.5
I'm on this one https://civitai.com/models/16592/realbiter

Hey what do y'all think?
https://civitai.com/models/46294/diffusion-brush-everything-sfw-nsfw-all-purpose-checkpoint-nuclear-diffusion-anime-hybrid holy crap guys im so proud did proper weights, try this <£
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interesting. i gotta say though, theres not much margin left on any of these cards. I looked at my distributors yesterday and the cheapest i can get a 4090 is like $100 under retail. not even close to worth it
Yeah, and all of this is why I am jumping the sinking ship to AMD. Tired of Jensen and how he hates us with him saying, in print, that moore's law is dead and the days of getting more for less (or the same price) are over. No joy so off I go to team Red and Blue in a few years.
being that im just starting out with AI, whats it like on the amd side of things?
nope
i didnt think you could do SD and whatnot
getting much better. #1 do not go for anything less that a 7k series AMD card if you plan on AI
Nep, stop being a stupid fanboy. That is so antiquated and wrong now. Previous gen yes
fp16, cuda and ai cores
what
i mean, i just picked up a 1080ti for under $200
no ai cores

no tensorcores

TC I agree, that AMD lacks so if you use TensorRT AMD is DOA
i mean, im not blowing a ton of cash to play around with ai
its doing what i ask of it so far
Pascal cards have no TC too
i spent 400 for a 3060 and its fine
I train so I am screwed as I need 24gb
look this
new york city explodes
Steps: 150, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 636382230, Size: 700x700, Model hash: 1a1cf9e766, Model: realbiter_v10
I am HIGHLY logical about this as I used Colab. Is the 7900XTX faster than the T4 and does it have more VRAM? Yes, and Yes. Done
took less than 5 seconds 🥂
hmmm. i can get new 3060 for $346
In the USA a 3060 is about 340ish on Amazon
fuck Jensen and the 4k series over priced turds. I hope Nvidia gets punished and their stocks fall to 10 cents per share.
i mean looks like you can order them on PNYs site
PNY does the pro cards for Nvidia so are good
does what its supposed to, no?
weirdest gpu ever tho
All I know is I am done with Nvidia unless they magically fart out a 500 USD price reduction for the 4090.
pny design looks shit
A 7900XTX does about 20-22 it/s on 5.5.0 beta. On 5.6.0 should do about 30-35 while 4090 is about 40
my card 🥂
can i ask why you care about how the card looks?
would you care
Nope, as long as it performs and is cool
if it performs, no
I think it is safe to discount anything this one says
lol, i had to downclock the 1080ti i just put in because the psu croaks
Xetrov, do your home work as there are a lot of shills, and fanboys out there.
im over here looking for budget gear
my gpu is a bottleneck
im saving for a 4070

4070 is their worst card for the price to date. Dismal sales and so many returns.
better than 3060
i need better card cuz i have new monitor
higher res
your money so you do you
4070ti or 4080 tbh if you just have to stick with Nvidia and current gen.
cost lot more tho
you will regret the 4070
it can't even be overclocked. Not that you would but that says just how bad it is.
i dont overclock tho
not that you would I said
Not a single content creator has said it is worth the price and more horror stories are coming out about it since its release. As I said you do you but no fucking way would I spend my money on a 4070 base model.
most content creator buy 4090tho
no
what about titans?
sucks
good cards
titan rtx for 800
fake
local to me
people dont typically attempt to sell fake shit and do it in person
answer my question
moldy
i think my monitor is 10bit
some websites said 8bit frc and some 10
displayspecs website says 10
but brightness too low
LMOA
va panel tho
??
it is your negative prompt
what is it supposed to be
I don't know what you currently have.
i asked what its SUPPOSED to be
it depends as too much will destroy it as bad as not enough

there is no supposed to be is the fact of the matter
1.5?
?
which sd
you know 1.4, 1.5, 2.0, 2.1
i dont
can't help then
what is this?
i realy dont know, seems to me like some sci-fi apartment. GN!
example?
what is your neg prompt?
People really need to concentrate on their negs far more than they do
sometimes they can't even save it
one leg,Amateur,Low rated,Phone,Wedding,Frame,Painting,tumblr,watermark,signature, hat, mangled fingers with (5 fingers:1.6), in prompt
I take it this is 1.5?
yes
grab bad_prompt and v2 embedding
ill google that up here in a bit
havent done embedding
is 2.1 just a model download?
stick one or the other in with your neg prompt
yes
I found v2 not as good when I use it
so whats with all the models on civit.ai specifying 1.5?
if 2.1 is ust a different model itself
1.5 is easier to train and 2.x is a sob to train. I hate it
as far as end user is concerned it is just another download but to train the TE is a mofo. As an end user the clip is different so what works in 1.5 no longer does in 2.x
I honestly do not expect SDXL to be any easier to train and I know it will not be if they stick to the same CLIP and/or do not give us new training tools made specifically for it.
hmmmm
TE is the textual encoder and it fights you when you train. Immediately the same dataset in 1.5 just works and in 2.x forget it
Doesn't look realistic 😦
I no longer can even attempt to train as Google banned gradio
Why isn't that everybody's #1 focus?
What doesm
i thought it looked pretty real
t look realistic about it?
Xetrov: It kinda looks handdrawn
oh, well the artist its modeled after does lol
Shouldn't it be modelled after real photos?
prompt: "a #{ artist } man, detailed skin, perfect face, fashion photography, photo realistic, ultra realistic, 20 megapixel, 35mm analog camera, background is #{ ["party", "concert", "festival", "nightclub", "pool party", "rave party", "sunny beach", "misty mountain", "forest", "luxury aparment", "penthouse suite"].sample } with #{ ["friends", "family", "girlfriend", "dog", "a group of beautiful girls", "a bunch of random people"].sample } ",
negative_prompt: "(deformed iris, deformed pupils, semi-realistic, cgi, 3d, render, sketch, cartoon, drawing, anime:1.4), text, close up, cropped, out of frame, worst quality, low quality, jpeg artifacts, ugly, duplicate, morbid, mutilated, extra fingers, mutated hands, poorly drawn hands, poorly drawn face, mutation, deformed, blurry, dehydrated, bad anatomy, bad proportions, extra limbs, cloned face, disfigured, gross proportions, malformed limbs, missing arms, missing legs, extra arms, extra legs, fused fingers, too many fingers, long neck"
That's the best I got so far.
Try the first .pt and see what it does for you Xetrov
I really don't give three shits if they look real or not he asked and I just gave him what might help with his issue.
btw gotta re-upload, was missing the instruction text:
Oh we're moody today too, huh?
I don't want no trouble, General!
I really don't care because looking real isn't what his issue was about. Was from an earlier question he asked.
so whats all the fuss about
im just saying it doesnt look realistic, maybe it'll make him think of ways to make it look more realistic
Does he wish for it to look more realistic?
i don't know, let's ask him
my man, do you wish your photos looked more real or more fake?
i'm out
Alright @leaden night back to what we were talking about. There are the two embeddings I mentioned to possibly help with your hands/fingers issue
I'll take a peep. Appreciate the insight

Interesting

Still, I wish SD could do it better and more realistically
guys how do put my vae slider next to my model picker like this
284 words for my neg
give prompt
@dense tapir
I deleted it because it goes against the server rules, focusing on an entirely nude and bloodied character
where was the nude
it didnt show a single detail

and not nude focused tho
Nude= no clothes
The character had none on. Thus, pretty nude focused.
Be mindful of this when posting is all! Thank you
the nude is random
btw how do i set priority of a detail
quality loss
ceres typing for 8 minutes compilation
9
nice

I had that error a while back and trouble ticketed on my 1060
I forget but it is not an AMD, or Nvidia, issue
16 it/s on 512 or 768?
try 768
now is that just raw or with embeddings, and loras?
My 1060 at 768x768 and using loras/embeddings
whats loras
loras, locons, lohas, oh, my.
tell me or ill hunt your dog in his dreams
they are like little models
imagine you see that while being outside
@wispy etherhttps://rentry.org/lora_train
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@dense tapiris ur aspect ratio 16:9?
got a fancy wallpaper for u (720p)
16:10
As you see that was toad on a log and no neg or anything else
my 2s/it is your 5.25it/s. That is a really big difference
It does
DDIM should be faster
already is
bru
stock is shit, I mean really slow
WOW
me
I WANNA SEE WHAT HAPPENS
i was gonna do that
Here is a toad on a log with all my juice.
WTF
Sometimes
She's singing songs now
No speed gain so yeah, a bottle neck and I know where that bottleneck is coming from too.
yes, for now
when done expect faster and 5.6.0 even faster. then they should be done
directml is even worse
I have never had so many people tell me to not go with AMD and Nvidia is the best so shut up and spend your money as I do in this SD shit.
Why spend money when you can
s t e a l
I am interested in the training mostly
nvidia is the best true
woah
worst case I turn my back on SD best case I get an AMD since Jensen is never going to lower the price of the cards where they properly should be.
how was your inference compared with 4080?
about right
That was in Jan though
neck and neck with the 3090ti
same
though these numbers will go up as ROCm matures and gets the updates
the one thing I will miss with AMD is the lack of tensor cores. I donot have them being on Pascal, but a lot of stuff is moving to TensorRT
Tensor cores is a game changer, ngl.
oh, for SD you ditched xformers and used its replacement?
7900
7950 is due now btw
I checked and I saw no difference so I am not sure
meh
what are your command_args?
@marsh lily
oh, speed gain incoming
--opt-sdp-attention
that takes the place of --xformers
needs pytorch2
that is non determinsitic as is xformers but there is a slightly slower version that is deterministic.
wtf?
lol
I am wondering how much of a hit the deterministic one is because if not much of one I will use that for sure and for training ALWAYS use it as xformers was problematic.
That is supposed to be on the comand_args in automatic1111 webui-user.bat
set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--theme dark --medvram --opt-sdp-attention --disable-safe-unpickle --port 9000 --api --opt-channelslast --always-batch-cond-uncond
I can't use it because pytorch2 for my low life card is slower AND I can't even get it to compile now
for current gen and 3090 it speeds it up
Your it/s is a tad too slow so I knew you were not using it
No idea but I know if I get an AMD I am not running it in windows
I already have ubuntu ready
(dual boot)
I run automatic1111 there and it loads so much faster than on windows
FC my first Linux until 4
AMD users get a performance increase but not a single mention on how they run it. I suspect on Windows since 5.4.3 is now on Windows and these are 6700 and 6800 cards which is what it supports.
gn
Did a little non-scientific testing. It seems like the Anime Line-art CN is better at backgrounds than the regular Line-art CN and Scribble. This is because it doesn't add extra doors/windows/etc in empty wall areas. However, Scribble makes better characters from an inputted line-art because the eyes are consistent better, less extra noses, mouth lines up better according to the mouth line, etc.
vvenom dog
how can i get images like this sharper?
what model? cool photo
fed gpt4 some info on stable diffusion (only about 10000 total words), this was one of the first it made with no feedback from me yet, off to a good start
My day has been thoroughly ruined, so I decided I'd pop in here and see whats up
@dense tapir Any new info on AMD's GPU performance?
@glossy herald Hows the model coming?
I'm trying to work on a lora for 2.1 and this is the only good image I have gotten out of it so far.
starting to get better I spose
Due to docker there is a performance hit but looking good so far. "With euler_a, 512x512, I got around 19-20 it/s. So roughly 4-5 it/s ahead of my XTX." When docker is removed that will go up about 3-6it/s because docker can be substantial. Funny thing is his numbers are without xformers (due to AMD) and no optimizations at all. Due to docker I had him try the optimization but it didn't do anything so seems he either put it in wrong or, as he said, docker could be ignoring it.
So what I am reading is AMD is doing promisingly good, especially for no optimizations?
@smoky oakso about 15it/s. for 768x768 it was around 5.3it/s. We need it out from under docker and able to use that sdp optimization
yes
Up next will be to see how it does for training
@smoky oak Update regarding the 7900 XTX. Inference is fine, around 16 it/s. I couldn't get the training to work, mostly because of what I assume is a bug with the ROCm fork of Triton that's currently in development (https://github.com/ROCmSoftwarePlatform/triton). My expectations are rather high, though, considering the fact that the Triton fork even exists (forked by AMD themselves no less), so I'm pretty certain training will be feasible soon™. But maybe hold off on buying the card for now unless you're patient and want to gamble. For all we know these issues are what's holding up the proper release of 5.5.
What I am seeing for no optimizations and no Triton I am thrilled.
7950XTX is due out now too.
Never will be as good as a 4090 but close enough for me.
👀
online already ^^ I'm sleeping for now, but felt good when I checked before bed #1099123538927026237
Awesome, I am taking a small break from AI at the moment for music prod, but I will check it out soon
I'm opening an open dataset collection of the community's "best of", to complete the "SDArt : Complete collection" model that I train on all the PoW (currently 600+ pics)
I'll leave this open for like 2 weeks before adding around 50 to 100 pics to the dataset, taken from there, if anyone wants to play some : #1099245477007990825
for reference, corresponding model https://civitai.com/models/44230/sdart-complete-edition
Room with full dark engry
I'm guessing to the left of the clouds in the centre of the image, but otherwise my 140p vision cant see it 😛
nope I actually inpainted the small waves on the beach for some reason AI decided to do this:
I dont know what prompted it to just drop a gem in there
((realistic)), ((warm)), ((earth tones)), ((impressionistic)), ((portrait)), ((historical)), ((high quality)), ((oil on canvas)), ((old man walking in the warm sunlight down a cobbled street of old stone buildings in a historical city)), scenic, masterpiece
@pallid snow
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generating it rn
@pallid snow whatcha think

An old man of black origin sits cross-legged in the middle of a lush forest clearing. He has a serene expression on his face and wears a white robe with intricate gold embroidery. His hair is long and gray, and his beard reaches down to his chest. The sun rays filter through the branches and leaves, casting a warm glow on the old man's face and making the golden thread on his robe shimmer. The image is an oil painting on canvas, using a wide-angle lens to capture the vastness of the forest
made with https://civitai.com/models/46294
https://civitai.com/models/46294 ^ this model too
Hello how is everyone
hello there
xD idk
does anyone know of a script/extension that'll apply masks and inpainting to small regions automatically over the course of like 20 runs, eventually transforming the whole image? May need to make the mask files then run a batch inpaint? But id want it to feed the img back into itself each time. Looking to make images sorta like these but much quicker

not high fps ik
im currently crying
Oh not that, I was gonna suggest using a VAE to help with the really washed out colors/contrast
A lot of Anime models seem to have really drag colors when not paired with a VAE
how do i do tat
They are a feature included in A1111, you can find documentation on how to use them online depending on what you are doing
You can search for documentation on how to use them online. There are different VAE's for different models, and a few different ways to go about applying them
@smoky oakis that right
If you google/research how they work, you will find out better than I can currently explain
You didn't try googling it.
i did.
on the website i found one
no
@amber leaf
i dont care
@dry crow
What happened to the mod mail react?
@glossy herald Are you on by chance?
The modmail Emote seems to be gone
otherwise we could have gotten the message deleted immediately
hey
Scam link above
done
Its still there for me
thanks! its deletet
its not
bots takes time it seems
betterdisco~
What happened to the mod mail react?
but yeah, 1AM, not reactive to the second
I don't use better discord, thats against TOS
everyone breaks tos
without noticing
mod mail react ? ⚠️ react you mean ? also same as Applications => warn staff ?
Should be there. Sometimes, discord removes it from me for 24h, no idea why, while it's working for others
I remember there being a specific emote called modmail from this server that was like an envelope with an exclamation mark that I was told to react with cause it hides the message for review
(can it stop though lol, it doesn't at all tonight lol x) )
I'll be honest, I don't remember any
hmm...
but once again, 1AM, sleepy, not the best of guizmus rn
Understandable, thank you
both
I did use the ⚠️ emote
yep, I have it in there. it's just that I was off and didn't get the notification until 10 minutes later
Oh no, I am not saying its not working or anything, just wanted to make sure that it DID
Like make sure that was the right move
and you can rest assure, it did 🙂
Alright cool, thanks
I saw it instantly disappear so I wasn't sure if it was the bot, or if they blocked me
the bot removes the emote yes
@glossy heraldcan you assist me with fp16 in #🤝|tech-support
alright, cool, thanks for the info. I'll make sure to save that as a favorite
so you don't have your name displayed basically
fp32 and fp16 are same speed for me
no, I still don't know more than yesterday when you asked me on this, sorry Nep
More than likely your speed is being limited by CPU in that case
the speed difference would be hidden if your CPU can't let it show
that doesnt have to do with the cpu
fp16 is half precision
Your CPU feeding the info to the GPU is still a bottleneck at some point
if you can't fully deliver the full info, then you won't see a difference
5700x+3060
yeah I'm still going back to bed, sorry. even if I was clear, I don't know those things and take what works for picture making, or what is optimal for training
Then I am not sure in that case, that GPU isn't particularly needy, however it does have a constricted bus width, so I wonder if that has something to do with it
i bet you dont even know what fp16 means
not intel tho
You don't need to result to insulting my intelligence. I know what FP 16 and 32 are, I also know that there are far more factors than just GPU hardware in the equation of speed
no
my pc doesnt bottleneck
ive chosen what to put together to not
what cpu and gpu
which bottlenecks at certain resolution and which not
There are still far more factors than that

For example, bus width is what is currently making the 4070ti and 4070 frankly bad GPU's for image gen
The bus width of them severely limit memory speed, which makes them very constricted
for example, current tests of the 4070 are showing around 3060ti performance (within 5% perf difference in AI)
And the 4070ti is closer to a 3070
next gen ai cores tho
They only pull ahead when more than 8GB VRAM is needed
Yeah, but they are useless when paired with constricted VRAM that can't keep up
which is exactly what happened
a 192 bit bus is way too small for GPU's that powerful
?
You were insulting my intelligence, but don't even know about how memory busses and bandwidth work?
bus doesnt have to do anything with intelligence
Memory bandwidth is far more important than core performance
For future reference, the 4070 and 4070ti are too bottlenecked to be a good purchase for AI. You can get a 3080 12GB for not much more and its dramatically faster
fp16 still has to work
not in games
In games no, but I said in AI
well actually
the 3080 is usually faster than the 4070 in games as well
i do both tho
only point where it has a real edge is in DLSS3, but less than a dozen games support that
so generally speaking, the 3080 10GB/12GB is a better buy than the 4070 for around the same price, which has been the findings of tech reports and such
and that lead gets way bigger in AI
dlss swapper



