#Hiding Space Layers

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kindred plank
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Since the new update, layers above the one you're on are translucent when you enable the "Hide Upper Layers" option.

young turtle
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This makes it incredibly hard to visually follow what is happening through the noise. What used to be a quick 5 second trace took me 10 minutes.

An example attached.

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Hide should mean hide.

scenic osprey
plucky turret
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Polls are nice, but vote on the suggestion site is better i think, for those who want to vote : https://shapez-2.nolt.io/5008

Hide Space layer items instead of making them translucent when "hid...

Currently, if you are looking at a platform that is under another space-object (space belt, space pipe, platform) in Space View, the upper item is visible and translucent, even if "hide upper layers" is selected. Objects on the upper levels should be 100% removed, not made translucent, when the user has asked that they not be shown.

scenic osprey
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Do both!

dull kayak
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I personally really like the current transparency values. Rather than having a ‘hide’ and ‘transparency’ modes, why not just have a transparency setting for hidden space floors? 100% gives you the hide.

solemn agate
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I've been copying my 3-space-layer builds back into the pre-1.0 build just to be able to work on them without the "transparency". Super hard to do wiring with that nonsense on!

scenic osprey
strong oar
scenic osprey
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While a slider might be a useful option, it would be better for the top layers to properly vanish and then, maybe have a slider to make them less-invisible. I certainly wouldn't want to wait for a slider implementation when just setting the transparency to 100% would be a faster, easier, and better fix.

strong oar
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I meant a slider in settings to set the transparency in general and a toggle in space layer that switches between transparent/invisible

scenic osprey
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(so what I'm suggesting is "make them invisible NOW, consider maybe making translucentness an option LATER")

strong oar
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agreed, but there is no damage if suggesting both, we can assume the devs are experienced enough to tackle the low lying fruit first and the rest at a later iteration

scenic osprey
# kindred plank

I want to know who the monster is who voted "fine" and who downvoted the suggestion page. To "talk".

dull kayak
scenic osprey
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You are history's greatest monster.

dull kayak
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I probably wouldn’t if it wasn’t clear I wouldn’t win. It’s been annoying exactly once, when I was trying to track capacity, but I’d at least like the devs to know there’s some opposition, even if it’s a minority

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A unanimous vote is liable to cause a complete change. Even a single downvote is more likely to lead to a changeable setting or multiple view modes

scenic osprey
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It drives me crazy constantly. Any time I'm trying to see a lower train unloader or space belt without zooming way in, any time I'm trying to hook up belts after placing platforms, and time I'm trying to track tight bundles of rails, just any time I'm doing anything on the space scale, that isn't on the top and only level.

scenic osprey
dull kayak
clever acorn
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I would also like to be able to do this. The transparency is not enough and the upper layers are distracting. I would prefer to have them gone completely.

kindred plank
# kindred plank
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Do you think the transparency of upper space layers is good enough?

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No, it needs to be more transparent.

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S2upvote

kindred plank
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Seems like the people want more transparent upper layers in Space mode. @gentle wyvern

forest granite
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( #🔒manufacture-hard-mode-test message )

young turtle
forest granite
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yeah it's a private channel, but garr has access

scenic osprey
# young turtle No Access

It's a private channel where Tobias indicated that he had heard us and had put options for transparency on the to-do list.

young turtle
forest granite
scenic osprey
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I'm hoping it happens soon. My default workflow is to place platforms and then wire them, and it's a nightmare trying to place belts on a space scale from a reasonable height if there is anything even slightly overlapping them on an upper level.

young turtle
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Yeah I've basically stopped playing since a couple days after 1.0 because of it

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It took me 30 minutes and massive confusion and headaches to do what used to take me just a minute or two

ivory fjord
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honestly my biggest complaint just why

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hide means hide

plucky turret
ivory fjord
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thats great! this and folder icons would be so great!

plucky turret
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about the folders is an other topic 🙂 so i can not answer for that 😄

ivory fjord
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they said it was coming in 2024 😭

kindred plank
forest granite
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yeah well it's just to say that tobs knows about it