[SPZ2-6291] [1.0.3-rc3] Asteroid pump has misleading (wrong?) Platforms per full space pipe number

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Fluid space pipe has throughput 43.2k L/min x12 (with 150% global speed upgrade), while Asteroid pump sends out 1.8k L/min per lane. Asteroid pump shows Platforms per full space pipe as 4. This number looks should be 24.

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1. [SPZ2-3281] — 👀 72% similar

space pipe throughput is 6 launchers per lane, not 4
Done • Priority: Medium • Fix: Update 0 - Patch 1 • Resolution: Done

Space Pipe throughput was incorrectly documented as 4 Fluid Launchers per lane when it is actually 6. Testing at maximum upgrades shows that 5 Fluid Launchers per line leaves gaps while 6 achieves perfect balance. The throughput display has been corrected to show 6 instead of 4, corresponding to 10800 L/m at maximum upgrade level. This affects player understanding of optimal Space Pipe usage when designing fluid transport systems between Space Platforms.

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Pipe throughput
Done • Priority: Medium • Fix: Future • Resolution: Won't Fix

Pipes claim to have a throughput of 4 times a Fluid Launcher, but they currently appear to have higher throughput than stated. Players recall that Pipes received a throughput limit in a previous update, but the actual behavior does not match the displayed specification. This is intentionally designed - Pipes actually have infinite throughput, but the game displays a finite limit to players. The discrepancy between stated and actual throughput causes confusion about the true capabilities of th...

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Space Pipe throughput not consistent with updates
To Do • Priority: Low • Fix: None

Space Pipe throughput is reported as inconsistent with recent updates. Players observed that Space Pipes now carry 24 Fluid Launchers worth of fluid per channel, which is a 4x increase from previous releases. The expectation was that Space Belts would receive a 4x throughput increase while Space Pipes would remain at 6 Fluid Launchers per channel. There is discussion about adjusting Space Pipe throughput to match 6 full fluid mine platforms, but inaccuracy issues of around 66% exist. The issu...
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4. [SPZ2-3074] — 👀 45% similar

Knowledge panel info re pipe throughput is inaccurate
Done • Priority: Medium • Fix: 4 - Early Access • Resolution: Done

The Codex page for "Fluids & Painting" states that Pipes have almost no Throughput limit, but this information is now inaccurate. Pipes currently have a limit of 9000 L/min, which can become a significant bottleneck when using fluid-intensive machines like Crystal Generators that can easily consume more than 9000 L/min of a particular color. The outdated Codex text needs to be updated to reflect the current Pipe Throughput limitations so players are aware of potential bottlenecks in their fac...

5. [SPZ2-3167] — 👀 35% similar

Painting upgrade doesn't show pump speedup
Done • Priority: Medium • Fix: Future • Resolution: Done

The Painting Speed upgrade does not display that it affects Asteroid Pump throughput in the upgrade preview or description. When the upgrade is purchased, it does correctly increase pump speed, but players cannot see this benefit before buying. The issue appears to be a UI limitation where there is no space to show the mixer throughput information in the upgrade interface. This creates a discrepancy between what the upgrade shows it will affect and what it actually affects. The upgrade functi...

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Space belt detail panel shows wrong throughput
Done • Priority: Medium • Fix: Dimension Update [0.1.0] • Resolution: Done

The Space Belt detail panel displays incorrect throughput values. Without any upgrades, it should show 240/min (4x base belt speed of 60/min), and with maxed belt speed upgrades it should show 720/min (4x upgraded speed of 180/min). The panel was showing wrong values that did not account for the Space Belt's 4x throughput multiplier compared to regular belts. This issue has been fixed and verified in the latest version.

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[versed lily]

Thanks for reporting this issue. Yes that appears to be wrong 🙂

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[SPZ2-6291] [1.0.3-rc3] Asteroid pump has misleading (wrong?) Platforms per full space pipe number

[rancid bloom]

The x12 is not a typo. It is per lane. It takes 24 launchers to fill a lane.

That number is way off. You need 72 fully expanded Asteroid Pump platforms to fill a space pipe.

They got accidentally buffed by x4 when the space belts got buffed.

The Asteroid Miner platform number is wrong too. It should be 12 and not 4.

[slender lion]

The numbers are per floor, so that the tooltip text doesn't need to update when you unlock the 3rd floor

[rancid bloom]

The text says "PLATFORMS PER FULL SPACE PIPE". No numbers in the game are per floor.

[sacred mural]

Confirming that the asteroid pump shows the incorrect number.
If 43.2K l/min is correct for the pump and one asteroid pump is able to put out (1.8*4) 7.2k l/min, then the displayed number should be (43.2/7.2) 6 platforms per full space pipe.
BUT also with 6 asteroid pumps, visually the pipe lines are not full.

The description on the space pipe also needs to be more clear, because I can't seem to understand what the real value of one lane throughput - one space level troughput is.
I guess the whole throughput is 43.2 x 12 and then one lane its 518.4/3 = 172,8, which is in fact then 24 asteroid pumps per lane.

[rancid bloom]

It is 43.2k per lane. Multiplied by 12 lanes per notch. It takes 72 fluid mining platforms to fill a space pipe.

[sacred mural]

Yes, exactly what I calculated. But this is very vaguely displayed in the game and needs to be communicated better.

[rancid bloom]

It still can be figured out using the mini-pump numbers, fluid launcher numbers, and space pipe numbers. It takes 4 mini-pumps to fill a fluid launcher. And space pipe is 43200L/min divided by launcher's 1800L/min = 24 launchers per lane. Since a balanced fluid miner is 1/3 of a launcher you need 24 / 1/3 = 72. The bad number on the Asteroid Pump is just confusing people.

[sacred mural]

Well I don't really understand the point of your response because I said the exact things above.
Also I am saying this needs to be depicted better in the gamae + the wrong number fixed.