There is a lot of z-fighting on the yellow "lights" on this station.
#[SPZ2-5426][1.0.0-A2-RC1] Station elements start z-fighting when moving away from the center
crimson pike
late jay
The z-fighting is more noticeable the farther away you are from the middle, the chunk 0|A. You'll start to see the first symptoms when you are four chunks away from the center.
I've already mentioned this in another bug report and also told the team members who were at Gamescom when I was there.
late jay
you will see it on almost everything.
this happens if you are very far away
if you are very far away it looks like this
grim pine
those two would be https://discord.com/channels/1000343719314198548/1096751406293205032
late jay
those two would be https://discord.com/channels/1000343719314198548/109675140629...
absolutely
And it gets much more extreme than that. XD
cunning fern
That is not z-fighting.
They're both caused by distance and floating point issues but the z-fighting is a different symptom.
late jay
They're both caused by distance and floating point issues but the z-fighting is ...
But Z-fighting also increases with distance.
grim pine
yeah but if there is Z fighting even when close to the center, then it means there are actually parts of the model overlapping, and that can be easily fixed by changing the model, while the issues that happen when getting further away from the center can't be as easily fixed
cunning fern
But Z-fighting also increases with distance.
I just said that in what you quoted. The Z-fighting is much more sensitive to it.
cunning fern
yeah but if there is Z fighting even when close to the center, then it means the...
Yes. Small details are affected first. The issue with those yellow stripes is that to fix them you need to move them further from the surface. That can leave a gap under them. So they'd need to be made into a thicker 3D detail instead of just being a "sticker".
The z-fighting doesn't happen at the center but does at the outer edge of the bulleseye. That's not that far away.
crimson pike
FWIW - The station in the video I posted was about 8 quadrants from the center, in the second "ring" of patches. It becomes noticeable (to me) at about 6 quadrants distance. It's probably more noticeable in this case because of the high contrast of the bright yellow on dark grey.
cunning fern
I'm about 8 quadrants away diagonally.
oak dawn
There is a lot of z-fighting on the yellow "lights" on this station.
Thanks for reporting this issue 🙂
So weird. Some parts don't get affected at all, and others do.
This center area isn't affected, but other areas are badly affected.
cunning fern
Might be a weird interaction with the specific floating point numbers used for those coordinates. 🤷♂️
oak dawn
This center area isn't affected, but other areas are badly affected.
That is facing east. If its on the north side then it is affected badly.
oak dawn
Might be a weird interaction with the specific floating point numbers used for t...
Maybe.
cunning fern
It affects small details and "stickers" mostly for this issue.
oak dawn
It affects small details and "stickers" mostly for this issue.
Yep.
There is the other distortion issues, but I count them as separate to whatever this is.
cunning fern
They're probably related fundamentally but the solution for this one is not the solution for the other.
The warped geometry far from the middle is an engine thing. This one probably can be fixed with a few tweaks to the models.
oak dawn
That is my hope as well.
Now to see if I can get more information to point to that possible easy fix...
crimson pike
I can also see some artifacts on the surface of the trash bins.
cunning fern
The yellow parts could probably just be made thicker. The VGA details might take more work.
I haven't noticed it on the other stations. Have you?
oak dawn
[SPZ2-5426][1.0.0-A2-RC1] Station elements start z-fighting when moving away from the center
Internal Ticket created. I showed different elements being affected while others weren't even at high distances.
Look at the back of this. The part on the back is fine at 40|A when other wall elements go crazy.
oak dawn
This center area isn't affected, but other areas are badly affected.
Same as this:
eternal grail
From what I understand
Z fighting is when 2 parts intersect on the same dimension, and the graphics dosent know what to draw over the other
Floating point error is due to distance where the further you go, the less precise decimals get (gl patching it)
oak dawn
How I referenced it internally was flickering or z-fighting.
cunning fern
From what I understand
Z fighting is when 2 parts intersect on the same dimensio...
Yes, but some details are small enough that even a small amount of FP rounding causes the parts to become coplanar in one axis.
Looks like it happens on all stations:
crimson pike
My guess is that there are two visible surfaces/textures that are so close to each other that the FP errors can make them change which points are "on top". More speculation, but either need to increase the tolerances, or eliminate one of the surfaces.