Only half pipe?

[slow axle]

NO matter how much fluid is inputted, only half of ithe pipe seems to be filled

[noble sierra]

a non full pipe indicates that there isn't enough fluid supplied to handle the consumption in the network, can you show a screenshot of what's on that platform ?

[vernal wagon]

The ratio of fluid to belt for crystalizers is 2:1 (painters are 1:1)

Looks like you are feeding fluid from both sides of the platform?

[blissful osprey]

You have 12 crystal generators (600 L/m x 12 = 7200 L/m) fed by 4 catchers (1800 L/m x 4 = 7200L/m). 7200 L/m into a pipe and 7200 L/m out of a pipe. 7200 L/m - 7200 L/m = 0 L/m filling the pipe. There is nothing left over to fill the pipe.

Stop the shapes temporarily and the pipe will fill up.

Painters do the same things if they use up all the pipe's input. But fluid tanks let the pipe fill up for some reason.

[noble sierra]

well that would be a bug then, as pipes don't contain fluid volume, and their fill level is supposed to indicate if there is more consumption than supply

[blissful osprey]

Ah. So full should be >= instead of just >

[atomic tendon]

Thanks for posting this issue.
I do some weirdness going on with the pipes, but they still fill up mostly if there is enough supply.

[atomic tendon]

What is being indicated here if I may ask?

[blissful osprey]

Pipe supply <= demand: half full pipe.

Loupau38 says it should be Pipe supply < demand: half full pipe.

It really depends on the original intent. My preference would be:

supply < demand: almost empty pipe
supply = demand: half full pipe
supply > demand: full pipe

But that's just me. 😄

[atomic tendon]

To me if supply mets demand I would assume the pipes are full.
That would tell me that I am giving it actually what is needed.
If it was real life pipes could burst with supply being higher than demand?

[blissful osprey]

If you have a bucket (or pipe) and you put one liter of water in it every minute and also take out a liter of water out of it every minute, will your bucket (pipe) get full?

[atomic tendon]

If constant would stay at the same level and not change.

[blissful osprey]

Yup. But we probably won't get that until the game starts tracking actual pipe fluid levels. But in my mind, the pipe should try to behave like a fluid tank.

[atomic tendon]

Pretty cool watching it in action and seeing how it works. I never really thought how the levels actually worked.

[blissful osprey]

As long as we don't get a system as bad as Satisfactory's pipe mechanics, I'll be happy. 😄

[blissful osprey]

Neither have I. I never realized the level actually meant something. I knew it filled up and emptied gradually, but that's it.

[noble sierra]

pipes used to have volume in previous versions, and it really didn't work well, so that's why it was changed

[blissful osprey]

Yup, pipe fluid dynamics are hard.

[atomic tendon]

So it's working correctly for the most part and I can close this bug report?
Something wrong with the liquid tanks though for supply vs levels.

Actually @slow axle. Can you supply a save file with what you are experiencing? I will take a look to make sure nothing is going on.

[blissful osprey]

I think they fluid tanks have a different interaction with pipes. I belive they're a lower priority or something.

[atomic tendon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slow axle]

sorry? I didnt get you

[atomic tendon]

In my testing I can make a pipe full, medium, low, or empty.
Your save file might have something to indicate there is a problem.

[slow axle]

oh so you want to see my file?

[atomic tendon]

Yes please 🙂

[slow axle]

how do i share it?

[atomic tendon]

I would do it from the play menu doing the following steps: Find the save, export it to Documents, then drag it right into this chat.

[slow axle]

okay i'll check it out

[atomic tendon]

Thanks 🙂

[slow axle]

the game is closed opening it... 😁

[atomic tendon]

My game is closed at times too 😉

Though it feels like its open all the time.

[slow axle]

here

[atomic tendon]

Awesome. Thank you

[slow axle]

no prob

please don't judge my game... i'm still quite a beginner

[atomic tendon]

I have 800+ hours in the game, but you should see what some of the others on this discord can do. They put me to shame.
Also everyone starts somewhere.

[slow axle]

okay 😀

[atomic tendon]

Looks good here. That is the only location where you have cyan doing crystallization?

[slow axle]

i tried inputting the paint through 2 notches y day. bfore that the paint was through only one notch

so is it working now?

[atomic tendon]

Looks like it.

[slow axle]

ok thanks for clearing it up!!

i guess you can close this up now.

[atomic tendon]

I need to get out a calculator to be sure.

Good platforms by the way. Mine don't look that nice. The pipe bordering and then going in from the outside.

Yep 1500L/m x8 = 12000, which is how many you need for the amount of crystalizers that you have.

[slow axle]

thanks 😁

[slow axle]

ohkayyy got it now i guess only one pipe wasnt enough

[atomic tendon]

I recommend clicking on the buildings and you will see the amounts required. Then using a calculator the total amount can be determined.

Ok closing this bug report 🙂