[0.0.8-RC3] MacOS - Stuttering/Crashing When Zoomed Out | Shapez 2 | Page 1

hybrid belfry Sep 6, 2024, 4:32 PM

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I've just started on Milestone 5, so have relatively few buildings, but when I zoom out any significant amount (usually to the point where the "1/A" view option appears on the lower right) the game begins to flicker and stutter. Not just a low framerate, but rapidly switching between a zoomed-in and zoomed-out frame. When opening the Esc menu, it flickers between the zoomed-out frame and menu frame. The issue is solved when exiting to the main menu or restarting the game, but sometimes I have to force quit so the pause menu isn't accessible. Sometimes the issue is just a black frame stuttering over the most recent game frame.

Persists in Fullscreen/Borderless/Windowed

Most recent player log is attached. Video also attached, but back-forth stuttering doesn't show in this video, just the black-frame stuttering.

Specs:
Intel Core i5-1030 1.10GHz Quad Core
8 GB RAM
Intel Iris Plus Graphics 1536 MB VRAM
Mac OS 13.4.1

vocal python Sep 6, 2024, 4:46 PM

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Hi, have you checked to see whether the process is running under Intel or Apple architecture? There's a known issue with Steam where it launches the application under Intel and Rosetta emulation by default.

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Ah actually sorry just noticed your intel iris graphics there, what model of mac is it?

hybrid belfry Sep 6, 2024, 5:30 PM

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I've got it running on a 2020 Macbook air 9,1

vocal python Sep 6, 2024, 7:06 PM

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hmmmm, sounds like it's the intel graphics struggling. Does the issue still happen if you set your graphics in-game to the lowest settings possible?

hybrid belfry Sep 6, 2024, 8:27 PM

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It does yeah

vocal python Sep 6, 2024, 10:12 PM

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Yeah, I think they're still working out the specs required for mac, but it might just be that the intel graphics aren't able to handle some of the shaders currently

hybrid belfry Sep 8, 2024, 12:58 PM

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Is there any way to launch using Vulkan or some other alternate settings on mac?

olive bobcat Sep 8, 2024, 4:03 PM

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I have similar problem. When zoomed out and** early into Milestone 5 setting up to first painting** (OP was at that point also). Running my first pipe of paint towards another platform and zoomed for a broader view for routing, screen froze, music continued, beachball spin, returned to the game cursor that is non-responsive, back to beachball spin and no response to any input. I am on an old Macbook Air (2017, 13 inch, 2.2 Mhz dual core Intel i7, Intel HD Graphics 6000), OS 12.7.5 running on ultra low graphics quality.

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 4:58 PM

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vocal python Yeah, I think they're still working out the specs required for mac, but it might...

i have the same issue on a maxed out M3 MAX

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 4:58 PM

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olive bobcat I have similar problem. When zoomed out and** early into Milestone 5 setting up ...

check other lag post to see screenshots

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 5:10 PM

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fervent herald i have the same issue on a maxed out M3 MAX

huh that's weird cos I'm on a M1 Pro MBP and not having the same issue, have you checked that Steam isn't launching your game under Intel and it's being run through Rosetta? That's been an isssue people have found with Steam, there's another post here somewhere about the solution for it.

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 5:26 PM

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vocal python huh that's weird cos I'm on a M1 Pro MBP and not having the same issue, have you...

it is running as an intel process

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i cant find the post

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 5:26 PM

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fervent herald it is running as an intel process

one mo, lemme see if I can find it

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 5:27 PM

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thank you

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 5:28 PM

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it's under questions > running on an arm mac

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it made all the difference to my performance

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 5:34 PM

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youre a lifesaver

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i used to get 3fps

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 5:36 PM

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16 cores and 131GB of RAM?!

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Oh neptune

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 5:36 PM

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lol

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40gpu cores

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 5:37 PM

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Well, I've already told my boss I expect an M4 when they drop, so I'm going shopping

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 5:37 PM

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and only 61fps 😦

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yea

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its like its capped

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 5:38 PM

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tbf I think some of the menu sections are limited, you might want to look into enabling the metal performance HUD, and you can see what Metal reckons it's up to cos I've been hitting close to 90 in some places

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 5:38 PM

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just bounces off 60

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ok

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i thouight it look way too choppy for 60

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using 10% of gpu now

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 5:43 PM

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huh, that is weird, in an area with lots of machines & belts?

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 5:43 PM

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yea

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563k buildings

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 5:45 PM

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ah yeah, I think in a different perf thread they mentioned they're aware the game tops out somewhere around the 450k building mark atm

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the simulation itself is single threaded I think they said, and I imagine your GPU is being under utilised or just the game doesn't need that much power GPU wise and you're running into the limits of the perf for the simulation

fervent herald Sep 8, 2024, 7:20 PM

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ahhhh i see

vocal python Sep 8, 2024, 9:41 PM

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The #1280310799956705300 thread has some info

#[0.0.8-RC3] MacOS - Stuttering/Crashing When Zoomed Out