The further you get from the void the placement gets more of centered | Shapez 2 | Page 1

signal knoll Aug 26, 2024, 4:01 PM

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shy monolith Aug 26, 2024, 4:58 PM

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floating point precision
i can already tell this will be a wont fix

sterile folio Aug 26, 2024, 5:06 PM

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They've said they are looking at possible fixes for it, it's more a question of how feasible it is to implement without negatively impacting performance and breaking saves from my understanding

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I could be wrong though

signal knoll Aug 26, 2024, 5:11 PM

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ok thanks

tribal summit Aug 26, 2024, 5:12 PM

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They could look at how Minecraft solved this issue

tribal summit Aug 26, 2024, 5:38 PM

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Also, point towards the case for Fixed Point types

sterile folio Aug 26, 2024, 5:39 PM

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Minecraft solved it with a world border

tribal summit Aug 26, 2024, 5:40 PM

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wouldn't floating point issues be noticiable near the current world border?

shy monolith Aug 26, 2024, 5:46 PM

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tribal summit wouldn't floating point issues be noticiable near the current world border?

literally just open up minecraft bedrock

tribal summit Aug 26, 2024, 5:47 PM

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I mean Java edition

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Well, I meant if it wasn't fixed

wispy jetty Aug 26, 2024, 5:51 PM

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Can't you use a long instead of a double ? (or even a int 128 ?)

tribal summit Aug 26, 2024, 5:52 PM

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long is an integer; it doesn't have decimal points

wispy jetty Aug 26, 2024, 5:59 PM

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tribal summit long is an integer; it doesn't have decimal points

But does the game need decimal points ?

tribal summit Aug 26, 2024, 5:59 PM

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yes, rendering reasons

wispy jetty Aug 26, 2024, 5:59 PM

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hmm

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so it's a limit of the engine

tribal summit Aug 26, 2024, 5:59 PM

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decimals are used a lot more than you'd think

wispy jetty Aug 26, 2024, 6:00 PM

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I know

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I just hoped that it was a choice that they made and not a limit of their engine

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tho

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can't they divide the size of everything by 10 ? while it doesn't fix it, it should at least help a bit

tribal summit Aug 26, 2024, 6:02 PM

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I guess, though there might be a lot more... technical reasons why it'd be harder than you'd think to do that

wispy jetty Aug 26, 2024, 6:09 PM

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Yea I know

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just hoping

slender kiln Aug 27, 2024, 12:23 AM

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tribal summit yes, rendering reasons

The rendering only needs to take small(ish) region into account though. Could use a big int of some sort, and the double as an offset from that.

tribal summit Aug 27, 2024, 12:24 AM

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well yeah

slender kiln Aug 27, 2024, 12:24 AM

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The rendering falls apart pretty completely if you go out even 100x100 large squares anyway

tribal summit Aug 27, 2024, 12:24 AM

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but the current implementation uses floats

slender kiln Aug 27, 2024, 12:24 AM

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Sure, but that could be fixed

burnt bobcat Aug 27, 2024, 2:03 AM

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sterile folio Minecraft solved it with a world border

No they fixed it with chunk generation and de-generation

slender kiln Aug 27, 2024, 3:27 AM

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Yeah, there is effectively no limit in Minecraft anymore.

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Like (effectively) limitless numbers aren't hard

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Eventually you become bounded by the storage for the size. Once you exceed like 2^(2^64) *8 things get complicated (and things get slow long before that).

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There are number systems that are truly limitless, but most are complicated and computationally expensive.

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